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2013-03-07 02:48:15 PM  

justtray: wee: justtray: Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.

I just don't know what kind of country we live in where any kid, no matter how old, can walk up to any one of throusands of stores in New York alone, and buy the exact same types of beverages that we sell to our military forces -- and in the same, high-capacity capacity cups!  No waiting period to think about whether this is good for them, no ID check, no questions about obesity or diabetes, the kids just hand their money over and these merchants of death happily give them what they want, in any capacity they want.  No questions asked. What they're doing to our children is unconscionable.
 You never see hunters carrying huge, over-sized Big Gulp cups, do you?  That's because nobody needs more than 16 ounces of soda, and if they do, then they can just buy two.  And a benefit there is the added time and effort in refilling the smaller cup will make them drink soda slower, and therefore kill themselves slower.


We're killing our children by the thousands in this country, every day, and I salute Mayor Bloomberg for finally standing up against Big Soda, as well as the American Beverage Association and their big-money lobbists, and doing something about this rampant problem.

We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

We need to just enforce the fatty control laws already on the books.

Fatties dont obey diets, so there's no point forcing them to diet. Unless we can force them to not be fat, there's no point restricting their access to sugar.


//you sound fat
//that & your dick size sounds small
//compound problem-no wonder you aren't getting any
 
2013-03-07 02:51:11 PM  

cptjeff: louiedog: and then a few beers or cocktails in the evening.

A serious, mostly liquor cocktail is actually pretty good for you when you're dieting- your body doesn't process calories from alcohol well at all. The reason beer makes you fat is all the residual carbs and sugars, not the alcohol. If you're trying to keep weight down, that manhattan is a decent option. A sugar pink friztini is not. A beer- even a light one- will be much worse for your weight than a glass of scotch.


Thank you for the reminder. I have a bottle of rum thats waiting to be opened as reward for eating like a rabbit this week.

Will drink straight to save calories/Sugar!
 
2013-03-07 02:52:46 PM  
if i lived in NYC i might give a damn.
 
2013-03-07 02:54:30 PM  

Endive Wombat: What is to stop retailers and coffee shops from selling two med sized sugar drinks as opposed to one extra large to the same person?

This is a feelgood law that the general populace really has no interest in, and this law will have ZERO farking impact on obesity.

Congrats NY on making businesses spend more on adapting to unnecessary, over-reaching, and ineffective government regulation.


THIS

Besides, a 12 oz can of Coke has 39 grams of sugar alone. His little anti-obesity plan is making him look like a joke on BOTH sides of the issue. Look, if people wanna be fat, banning drinks isn't going to stop them. Like drugs, if people want to destroy themselves, laws won't stop them. Nice try, Mayor Dumbass.
 
2013-03-07 02:56:11 PM  
As a NY'er, I find this ban to be utter crap. And I'm pretty left wing.

If I drink soda, I usually buy a can because it's smaller. If I get fast-food, I'll get the small.

But, once in a while, I like to buy a 20oz bottle of soda. It's one of my few vices in my life. I don't need someone to tell me what I can drink and what isn't good for me. I KNOW that drinking too much soda is bad, that's why I don't do it every day.

/sipping on what might be my last 20oz Pepsi in the city
 
2013-03-07 02:58:10 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Starbucks isn't great but its certainly better than any gas station / repair shop coffee.


Depends on the place.

My in-laws live down on Cape Cod.  As an avid surf fisherman I "visit" fairly frequently during the nicer months.  This usually means I set my alarm for 3 AM or earlier.  Now, Montauk is terribly un-friendly to anyone off-hours, but the Cape runs a close second.  As a result the only place to get coffee is a local 7-11.

I'll be damned if the coffee in that place isn't downright great.  And yes, I am a coffee snob.

My wife didn't believe me.  Once time when I was coming back she texted me to bring her a coffee from Starbucks since the in-laws make some of the worst coffee I have ever tasted.  I grabbed an empty cup from Starbucks, filled it with coffee from 7-11 and she raved about how much better it was.

By no means is it common, but it does happen.
 
2013-03-07 02:59:41 PM  

wee: justtray: Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.

I just don't know what kind of country we live in where any kid, no matter how old, can walk up to any one of throusands of stores in New York alone, and buy the exact same types of beverages that we sell to our military forces -- and in the same, high-capacity capacity cups!  No waiting period to think about whether this is good for them, no ID check, no questions about obesity or diabetes, the kids just hand their money over and these merchants of death happily give them what they want, in any capacity they want.  No questions asked. What they're doing to our children is unconscionable.
 You never see hunters carrying huge, over-sized Big Gulp cups, do you?  That's because nobody needs more than 16 ounces of soda, and if they do, then they can just buy two.  And a benefit there is the added time and effort in refilling the smaller cup will make them drink soda slower, and therefore kill themselves slower.


We're killing our children by the thousands in this country, every day, and I salute Mayor Bloomberg for finally standing up against Big Soda, as well as the American Beverage Association and their big-money lobbists, and doing something about this rampant problem.


You've convinced me.  I'm going out tomorrow and buying an AR-15 light with diet bullets.
 
2013-03-07 03:00:09 PM  
What's Bloomberg's approval rating these days? Do New Yorkers actually like this busybody asshole?
 
2013-03-07 03:00:50 PM  
Geez. Go ahead and sell the sodas in the tanker size - I give up. If you want to carry around a freakin' three pound 'beverage' (that's not a beverage, that's double a large families' sugar allotment for the entire day) knock yourself out. But at least make it a regularly available option for the non-insane people to buy an 8 or 12 ouncer.
 
2013-03-07 03:04:07 PM  

Nem Wan: Who cares what the mayor of some municipality thinks?


If this were almost any other municipality, it wouldn't matter.  Sadly, this is New York City, one of the largest cities in the United States.  Someone pointed out that 40% of the population of New York state lives in New York City, meaning that in any state election, what New York City wants, New York City gets.

Right now Bloomberg is just banning soda sizes and sugar contents in drinks.  But that's not going to be where it stops.  He's going to keep going and going, and eventually, it could lead to something that would effect the rest of the nation.  Let me explain how.  You ever wondered why there is an expiration date on bottled water?  That's because one state requires that all food and drink, including bottled water, have an expiration date.  The bottled water companies figure it's cheaper to just put expiration dates on all bottles than to separate out bottles for that one state and stamp expiration dates on them.  Now, let's go back to Bloomberg and New York City.  Bloomberg could propose or even pass a law stating that all iPods and MP3 players sold in New York City must be limited in volume to a lower decibel to protect hearing.  First, retail companies, once the law goes into effect will stop stocking MP3 players and iPods because they don't meet Bloomberg's law.  Secondly, people are going to travel out of New York to buy iPods and MP3 players.  Finally, the retail companies and manufacturers are going to realize that they are losing money and will start to make iPods and MP3 players that aren't as loud as the current ones allow, however, instead of making ones for New York only, they'll just make New York approved models for everyone since that would be cheaper overall.
 
2013-03-07 03:05:15 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: What's Bloomberg's approval rating these days? Do New Yorkers actually like this busybody asshole?


He's right around 50%. Apparently he has some backers in the 'you know what, that fat fark carrying around a half gallon of mountain dew DOES bother me' camp. Me, I think he has the wrong solution... but he's absolutely forcing the debate on the right problem. As a nation we have to look at the insane amount of sugar we are ingesting. I don't know how to solve it but just sitting back and doing nothing while pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't any smarter than what he's doing. 'Advisories' and articles that something is bad for you have next to no effect.
 
2013-03-07 03:05:54 PM  

BunkoSquad: jehovahs witness protection: Why hasn't Bloomberg been whacked yet? Oh yeah...the only people allowed to have guns in NYC are cops and mobsters. And he owns both.

Oh, good, we're advocating assassination over the size of your root beer now.


Even if everybody had guns, the assassin would probably be too fat to make a clean getaway.
 
2013-03-07 03:11:43 PM  
If you outlaw sugary drinks, only outlaws fatties will have sugary drinks.

Or something.
 
2013-03-07 03:12:01 PM  

KrispyKritter: if i lived in NYC i might give a damn.


1.bp.blogspot.com
You get used to it.
 
kab
2013-03-07 03:12:52 PM  
Personal responsibility.  No longer available in NY.   Please see pages 4-850 for additional stipulations.
 
2013-03-07 03:13:10 PM  
Cool, more plastic for the landfills. Yay!
 
2013-03-07 03:18:13 PM  

kab: Personal responsibility.  No longer available in NY.   Please see pages 4-850 for additional stipulations.


I'm glad I left.

The balls were clipped from that city when the towers fell.
 
2013-03-07 03:27:51 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: kab: Personal responsibility.  No longer available in NY.   Please see pages 4-850 for additional stipulations.

I'm glad I left.

The balls were clipped from that city when the towers fell.


That's just hyperbole
s7.postimage.org
,,,and a half.
 
2013-03-07 03:32:26 PM  
Yay, Nanny State!

Crime cams on every corner will soon follow.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:37 PM  

JohnBigBootay: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: I hate coffee

Yeah, I'd really just avoid coffee shops entirely if you don't like coffee.


Its hard when Seattle revolves around coffee culture... out of office work meeting? Starbucks. Socializing between meals? Coffee shop!

I avoid it as much as I can, but Starbucks or some other coffee shop is in every single grocery store. I don't drink it, so I don't bother buying anything, but avoiding them would inhibit my ability to buy other food stuffs. The smell not easy to avoid though.
 
2013-03-07 03:44:33 PM  

AgentBang: But, once in a while, I like to buy a 20oz bottle of soda. It's one of my few vices in my life. I don't need someone to tell me what I can drink and what isn't good for me. I KNOW that drinking too much soda is bad, that's why I don't do it every day.

/sipping on what might be my last 20oz Pepsi in the city


Most places that sell soda by the bottle are convenience stores. Convenience stores are exempt.
 
2013-03-07 03:50:12 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Well, allow me to retort!
 
2013-03-07 03:51:38 PM  
Because making something less convenient will make people stop doing it!
People are using guns in crimes! Let's make the law restrict people to 7 bullets in a magazine, so they'll have to break two laws to murder someone!
People are drinking too much sugary drinks! Let's make the law that they have to purchase two drinks instead of one big one. That'll make them stop drinking so much of it!
Teenagers are having too much sex! Let's add more penalties for underage sex, because the threat of harsher punishment will work against a mind raging with hormones!

New Yorkers. You voted for this kind of thing, now live with it or change it. Complaining is not a solution.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-07 03:57:37 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: gja: Niiiiice effort:
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sarcasm
(noun:  sahr-kaz-uhm )
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark

Trolling
(verb.: /'tro?ling/, /'tr?ling/)
1.Posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.


Ahhhh, but his sarcasm WAS trolling. And to his credit he got bites! Well played by Wee. Well played indeed.
 
2013-03-07 04:00:23 PM  

Securitywyrm: Because making something less convenient will make people stop doing it!
People are using guns in crimes! Let's make the law restrict people to 7 bullets in a magazine, so they'll have to break two laws to murder someone!
People are drinking too much sugary drinks! Let's make the law that they have to purchase two drinks instead of one big one. That'll make them stop drinking so much of it!
Teenagers are having too much sex! Let's add more penalties for underage sex, because the threat of harsher punishment will work against a mind raging with hormones!

New Yorkers. You voted for this kind of thing, now live with it or change it. Complaining is not a solution.


Leaving is.

/ex NYr
 
2013-03-07 04:02:40 PM  
All I got to say is Starbuck's better pony up my free $5 for being a new customer registering a new card on Starbucks.com.

I think the promo ends on the 24th. You buy a $15 card (you have to be a new customer) online or at a store and register it with Starbucks.com and they add $5 WITHIN 72 HOURS.

I'm waitin. Right here. I'm waitin.
 
2013-03-07 04:04:28 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: Its hard when Seattle revolves around coffee culture... out of office work meeting? Starbucks. Socializing between meals? Coffee shop!

I avoid it as much as I can, but Starbucks or some other coffee shop is in every single grocery store. I don't drink it, so I don't bother buying anything, but avoiding them would inhibit my ability to buy other food stuffs. The smell not easy to avoid though.


Well, luckily they carry more and more juices and tea and crap these days. Me, I need a caffeine drip via IV to get through the work day.
 
2013-03-07 04:05:31 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Crotchrocket Slim: What's Bloomberg's approval rating these days? Do New Yorkers actually like this busybody asshole?

He's right around 50%. Apparently he has some backers in the 'you know what, that fat fark carrying around a half gallon of mountain dew DOES bother me' camp. Me, I think he has the wrong solution... but he's absolutely forcing the debate on the right problem. As a nation we have to look at the insane amount of sugar we are ingesting. I don't know how to solve it but just sitting back and doing nothing while pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't any smarter than what he's doing. 'Advisories' and articles that something is bad for you have next to no effect.


Problems: Access to acceptable and healthier substitutes are limited, often times more expensive, and less convenient.

Solutions:
-Reward businesses/restaurants for offering cleaner menus.
-Create tax and loan incentives for new restaurants providing for a cleaner menu.
-Reward and provide tax incentives for those practicing a healthy lifestyle.
-Provide incentive for and support to get fresh fruits/vegetables to lower socio-economic areas.

- Long term more complicated solution, the culture and pace of life in America has to change. Instead of life becoming easier, it has become more and more difficult with work overshadowing any sort of personal time that humans require. It is next to impossible for most families to survive on a single-income which places both parents working, which means probably little-to-no home cooked meals. The food at schools is mostly deplorable and not remotely healthy. Most people drive everywhere they go due to the city planning as housing in town is difficult to come by and multi-use spaces is not rampant.

You want to know why humans do pretty much anything despite the consequences? Accessibility and ease. When you have the option of eating a 800 calories of a small fast-food combo meal that takes 10 minutes and costs 5 bucks versus spend the time at a grocery store, cook, do the dishes, and store/heat up food - which do you choose? When you are getting home every night at 8, are you really going to go to the gym which costs money, and work out for an hour, then drive home and shower BEFORE you can even start to unwind? There is your problem.
 
2013-03-07 04:12:16 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: OgreMagi: wee: justtray: We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

They can pry the foie gras from my cold, dead hands.

They banned it here in California.  Rat bastards.

I understand you can BYOFG to restaurants to be cooked for you, like you bring your own wine.


I've heard that there are restaurants who are skirting this nonsense by just keeping it off the menu but making it available to those who know to ask for it (and I assume who are known to the restaurant or who say, "Smitty sent me"). And if I recall correctly, authorities have as much as said, "We're not enforcing this unless somebody complains". They apparently have better things to do with their time than trying to make sure eateries don't serve particular dishes.
 
2013-03-07 04:17:54 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: JohnBigBootay: Crotchrocket Slim: What's Bloomberg's approval rating these days? Do New Yorkers actually like this busybody asshole?

He's right around 50%. Apparently he has some backers in the 'you know what, that fat fark carrying around a half gallon of mountain dew DOES bother me' camp. Me, I think he has the wrong solution... but he's absolutely forcing the debate on the right problem. As a nation we have to look at the insane amount of sugar we are ingesting. I don't know how to solve it but just sitting back and doing nothing while pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't any smarter than what he's doing. 'Advisories' and articles that something is bad for you have next to no effect.

Problems: Access to acceptable and healthier substitutes are limited, often times more expensive, and less convenient.

Solutions:
-Reward businesses/restaurants for offering cleaner menus.
-Create tax and loan incentives for new restaurants providing for a cleaner menu.
-Reward and provide tax incentives for those practicing a healthy lifestyle.
-Provide incentive for and support to get fresh fruits/vegetables to lower socio-economic areas.

- Long term more complicated solution, the culture and pace of life in America has to change. Instead of life becoming easier, it has become more and more difficult with work overshadowing any sort of personal time that humans require. It is next to impossible for most families to survive on a single-income which places both parents working, which means probably little-to-no home cooked meals. The food at schools is mostly deplorable and not remotely healthy. Most people drive everywhere they go due to the city planning as housing in town is difficult to come by and multi-use spaces is not rampant.

You want to know why humans do pretty much anything despite the consequences? Accessibility and ease. When you have the option of eating a 800 calories of a small fast-food combo meal that takes 10 minutes and costs 5 bucks versus spend the ...


I blame suburban sprawl and multi-hour commutes.
 
2013-03-07 04:31:04 PM  

JohnBigBootay: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: Its hard when Seattle revolves around coffee culture... out of office work meeting? Starbucks. Socializing between meals? Coffee shop!

I avoid it as much as I can, but Starbucks or some other coffee shop is in every single grocery store. I don't drink it, so I don't bother buying anything, but avoiding them would inhibit my ability to buy other food stuffs. The smell not easy to avoid though.

Well, luckily they carry more and more juices and tea and crap these days. Me, I need a caffeine drip via IV to get through the work day.


I'm not a fan of their teas, plus I've never been a drink-your-calories person (still hungry after massive smoothies), but I rely on Narcolepsy medication to get me through the work day. Caffeine is useless to me except between waking up and the meds kicking in.
 
2013-03-07 04:32:47 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: You want to know why humans do pretty much anything despite the consequences? Accessibility and ease. When you have the option of eating a 800 calories of a small fast-food combo meal that takes 10 minutes and costs 5 bucks versus spend the time at a grocery store, cook, do the dishes, and store/heat up food - which do you choose? When you are getting home every night at 8, are you really going to go to the gym which costs money, and work out for an hour, then drive home and shower BEFORE you can even start to unwind? There is your problem.


You'll get no argument from me. I mean we are sort of talking about sugar but the fact is we have built ourselves a sort of shiatty society.
 
2013-03-07 04:33:48 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: You want to know why humans do pretty much anything despite the consequences? Accessibility and ease. When you have the option of eating a 800 calories of a small fast-food combo meal that takes 10 minutes and costs 5 bucks versus spend the ...

I blame suburban sprawl and multi-hour commutes.


That is a big part of it, but it isn't because developers are building out in the burbs and families are moving to the burbs with large commute times, but because most of the inner-city wasn't planned very well so you either have pockets of crime-ridden ghetto areas, or incredibly unaffordable "old-money" areas. The sqftage that most families can afford in town isn't enough to raise a family in, and there isn't likely to be any green-space nearby. So really, people do not have much of a choice between moving out to the suburbs or staying in town. I understand how stacking is ideal and so is building up, but really who the fark wants to live in a little apartment with a family?
 
2013-03-07 04:40:10 PM  

KrispyKritter: if i lived in NYC i might give a damn.


If it sticks, other places may try it. I don't even drink soda but I think this is a BS law, because if they manage to get people used to it, what other things will they start regulating? Size of steak or other meat cuts? Sandwiches? BEER? Basically I can totally see this being the first step in making bars/restaurants downsize everything, and you know the prices won't change because 'cost of doing business'. I don't buy a large meal out to stuff myself, I buy it so I can have leftovers later or the next day (Usually - depends on what it is and if I've eaten at all that day).

These are the things that make me drift more center, is what I'm saying.

/Stay away from my pitcher on a night out with friends
//It'll cost your hand otherwise
 
2013-03-07 04:43:55 PM  

JohnBigBootay: the money is in the banana stand: You want to know why humans do pretty much anything despite the consequences? Accessibility and ease. When you have the option of eating a 800 calories of a small fast-food combo meal that takes 10 minutes and costs 5 bucks versus spend the time at a grocery store, cook, do the dishes, and store/heat up food - which do you choose? When you are getting home every night at 8, are you really going to go to the gym which costs money, and work out for an hour, then drive home and shower BEFORE you can even start to unwind? There is your problem.

You'll get no argument from me. I mean we are sort of talking about sugar but the fact is we have built ourselves a sort of shiatty society.


Sugar, or anything else. As of late, it seems as if the only methods put forward to put society on the right track is by penalizing those whom are apparently straying from that path. While laws and penalties are necessary, I believe that you can get more people onto the right track with incentives and rewards. What ultimately ends up happening in the penalization path is that eventually those abiding by the rules get screwed over and frustrated. I work out 3 days a week and can most definitely afford to eat or drink whatever I want whenever I want, however I am treated as an irresponsible adult and denied ease of access to these substances. This is the same thing responsible gun-owners complain about. When the actions of a few spoil everything for the rest, that pisses off people. Look how amazing UNFUN flying on an airplane has gotten. Thank you TSA for I am now a suspected terrorist until my colon is searched.

Reward and incentive. That is all most people need to change their lifestyles. As a kid I tried hard in school because if I got an A, my parents would buy me new GI Joes or give me money. If instead they just punished me for NOT making an A, then I would have turned out like my freak Asian friends whose parents demanded success and in turn their kids ended up messed up and stressed out perpetually. My parents did not need to punish me for not getting an A, if I didn't, I didn't get the reward. That was punishment enough.
 
2013-03-07 04:57:11 PM  
Why did starbucks need a war with bloomberg to do that? They serve condescending, overpriced crap all the time...
 
2013-03-07 04:57:12 PM  
I just can't function in the morning until I've had my octuple shot espresso.
 
2013-03-07 05:04:40 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: OgreMagi: wee: justtray: We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

They can pry the foie gras from my cold, dead hands.

They banned it here in California.  Rat bastards.

I understand you can BYOFG to restaurants to be cooked for you, like you bring your own wine.


Yes, I know of at least one restaurant in San Clemente would do that for you.  I think it's just illegal for them to sell it.  BYOFG takes care of that for them.
 
2013-03-07 05:06:20 PM  

Endive Wombat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?


I hate liver, so I thought I would despise foie gras...and then I had some, and it was delicious.  I've seen how it's done, and I don't think it's that terrible.

Would love to see this law go to the Supreme Court...I'm pretty sure nowhere in the constitution says "you can't drink big drinks with sugar".
 
2013-03-07 05:06:21 PM  
The law doesn't ban anybody from buying anything. If you want 32 ounces of sugar water, you have every right to buy two 16-ounce cups and drink them both. I have no idea why everybody's getting their panties in a twist over this.

If you don't like the nanny state, stop acting like spoiled children.
 
2013-03-07 05:18:11 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: What ultimately ends up happening in the penalization path is that eventually those abiding by the rules get screwed over and frustrated.


You make some good points about the positive vs/negative reinforcement. I frankly don't care much about the soda ban. It ain't like you can't get the soda now. You can buy all you want. I'd feel way differently if he was trying to ban a legal product but that's not what is happening here. Me personally I'd actually like a soda now and again if places sold it in smaller amounts. Once in a  blue moon I'll see those little mini cans/bottles and I'll get one as a result but you're lucky these days to see a 16 ounce soda and even that's almost 300% larger than those 6.5 oz bottles I always had as a kid - of course that's back when the 12 oz bottle was the 'big one'. So yo buy the 'small' 20 .oz bottle end end up dumping half of it anyway after it goes flat.
 
2013-03-07 05:23:43 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: I work out 3 days a week and can most definitely afford to eat or drink whatever I want whenever I want, however I am treated as an irresponsible adult and denied ease of access to these substances. This is the same thing responsible gun-owners complain about.


Get in line with with responsible pot smokers, comrade.
 
2013-03-07 05:26:56 PM  

Endive Wombat: What is to stop retailers and coffee shops from selling two med sized sugar drinks as opposed to one extra large to the same person?

This is a feelgood law that the general populace really has no interest in, and this law will have ZERO farking impact on obesity.

Congrats NY on making businesses spend more on adapting to unnecessary, over-reaching, and ineffective government regulation.



This has always been my question.
 
2013-03-07 05:27:46 PM  

IC Stars: Yay, Nanny State!

Crime cams on every corner will soon follow.


Hey everybody - check out the deep thinker over here.
 
2013-03-07 05:36:16 PM  

Cornelius Dribble: The law doesn't ban anybody from buying anything. If you want 32 ounces of sugar water, you have every right to buy two 16-ounce cups and drink them both. I have no idea why everybody's getting their panties in a twist over this.

If you don't like the nanny state, stop acting like spoiled children.


lol

"If you don't want me to force you to behave in a manner that I find acceptable, then you should behave in a manner that I find acceptable."

I have a better idea. If I don't like the nanny state, you go fark yourself.
 
2013-03-07 05:40:50 PM  
You have to step over a lot of
 
2013-03-07 05:55:45 PM  

mama2tnt: Endive Wombat: What is to stop retailers and coffee shops from selling two med sized sugar drinks as opposed to one extra large to the same person?

This is a feelgood law that the general populace really has no interest in, and this law will have ZERO farking impact on obesity.

Congrats NY on making businesses spend more on adapting to unnecessary, over-reaching, and ineffective government regulation.


This has always been my question.


I read another article that said some movie theaters were planning on doing this exact thing..."buy one medium drink, get the second for half-off" or some such thing..it was essentially going to work out to the same price as one large drink basically...
 
wee [TotalFark]
2013-03-07 06:03:15 PM  

gja: Ahhhh, but his sarcasm WAS trolling. And to his credit he got bites! Well played by Wee. Well played indeed.


The parallel seemed funny to me, to be completely honest...
 
2013-03-07 06:03:38 PM  

wee: justtray: Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.

I just don't know what kind of country we live in where any kid, no matter how old, can walk up to any one of throusands of stores in New York alone, and buy the exact same types of beverages that we sell to our military forces -- and in the same, high-capacity capacity cups!  No waiting period to think about whether this is good for them, no ID check, no questions about obesity or diabetes, the kids just hand their money over and these merchants of death happily give them what they want, in any capacity they want.  No questions asked. What they're doing to our children is unconscionable.
 You never see hunters carrying huge, over-sized Big Gulp cups, do you?  That's because nobody needs more than 16 ounces of soda, and if they do, then they can just buy two.  And a benefit there is the added time and effort in refilling the smaller cup will make them drink soda slower, and therefore kill themselves slower.


We're killing our children by the thousands in this country, every day, and I salute Mayor Bloomberg for finally standing up against Big Soda, as well as the American Beverage Association and their big-money lobbists, and doing something about this rampant problem.


It's like a kinder, gentler [favorite Fark troll].
 
2013-03-07 06:13:54 PM  
Someone needs to ask Bloomberg point blank if he's so concerned about people's health and well being why he's done exactly jack and shiat about all the people living in slums in New York City. There are buildings that have a long string of code violations and tenant complaints and yet the city won't lift a finger.
 
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