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2013-03-07 11:09:39 AM  
Why would you institute a ban based on the quantity of the drink?

It should just be a limit on the grams of sugar per volume.

Lets be honest, most people are consuming so much sugar needlessly and likely unknowingly, that it may be a bigger problem than smoking tobacco in this country.
 
2013-03-07 11:18:23 AM  
What is to stop retailers and coffee shops from selling two med sized sugar drinks as opposed to one extra large to the same person?

This is a feelgood law that the general populace really has no interest in, and this law will have ZERO farking impact on obesity.

Congrats NY on making businesses spend more on adapting to unnecessary, over-reaching, and ineffective government regulation.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-07 11:19:15 AM  
Was this the law where the maximum fine was $100 per day? They'll cover that in an hour of caffeinated whipped cream sales and the rest of the day is profit.
 
2013-03-07 11:23:30 AM  
Why hasn't Bloomberg been whacked yet? Oh yeah...the only people allowed to have guns in NYC are cops and mobsters. And he owns both.
 
2013-03-07 11:41:10 AM  
They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time
 
2013-03-07 11:44:53 AM  

ZAZ: Was this the law where the maximum fine was $100 per day? They'll cover that in an hour of caffeinated whipped cream sales and the rest of the day is profit.


Why do you think they are going to take 3 months to look at it? And I guarantee there are other laws that will come into play if Starbucks doesn't at least act like they are going to comply.
 
2013-03-07 11:47:25 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Why hasn't Bloomberg been whacked yet? Oh yeah...the only people allowed to have guns in NYC are cops and mobsters. And he owns both.


Oh, good, we're advocating assassination over the size of your root beer now.
 
2013-03-07 11:54:13 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time


I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?
 
wee
2013-03-07 11:55:59 AM  
So they're still going to sell Assault Beverages in spite of the high-capacity cup ban?  Starbucks murders children!
 
2013-03-07 12:05:18 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time


Foie gras is delicious.  I was grossed out before I tried it, but absolutely love it now.
 
2013-03-07 12:08:04 PM  

wee: So they're still going to sell Assault Beverages in spite of the high-capacity cup ban?  Starbucks murders children!


Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.
 
2013-03-07 12:17:26 PM  

Endive Wombat: I was with you until you got to that part. Foie is FARKING AMAZING. Its like meat butter. How can you go wrong? What is it about the foie that you do not like?


Can't remember the last time I tried it. Just a distance memory of disliking it.
 
2013-03-07 12:20:11 PM  

Endive Wombat: What is to stop retailers and coffee shops from selling two med sized sugar drinks as opposed to one extra large to the same person?


Two drinks. Higher cost. More sales tax.

End of story.
 
wee
2013-03-07 12:26:59 PM  

justtray: Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.


I just don't know what kind of country we live in where any kid, no matter how old, can walk up to any one of throusands of stores in New York alone, and buy the exact same types of beverages that we sell to our military forces -- and in the same, high-capacity capacity cups!  No waiting period to think about whether this is good for them, no ID check, no questions about obesity or diabetes, the kids just hand their money over and these merchants of death happily give them what they want, in any capacity they want.  No questions asked. What they're doing to our children is unconscionable.
 You never see hunters carrying huge, over-sized Big Gulp cups, do you?  That's because nobody needs more than 16 ounces of soda, and if they do, then they can just buy two.  And a benefit there is the added time and effort in refilling the smaller cup will make them drink soda slower, and therefore kill themselves slower.


We're killing our children by the thousands in this country, every day, and I salute Mayor Bloomberg for finally standing up against Big Soda, as well as the American Beverage Association and their big-money lobbists, and doing something about this rampant problem.
 
2013-03-07 12:42:18 PM  

wee: justtray: Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.

I just don't know what kind of country we live in where any kid, no matter how old, can walk up to any one of throusands of stores in New York alone, and buy the exact same types of beverages that we sell to our military forces -- and in the same, high-capacity capacity cups!  No waiting period to think about whether this is good for them, no ID check, no questions about obesity or diabetes, the kids just hand their money over and these merchants of death happily give them what they want, in any capacity they want.  No questions asked. What they're doing to our children is unconscionable.
 You never see hunters carrying huge, over-sized Big Gulp cups, do you?  That's because nobody needs more than 16 ounces of soda, and if they do, then they can just buy two.  And a benefit there is the added time and effort in refilling the smaller cup will make them drink soda slower, and therefore kill themselves slower.


We're killing our children by the thousands in this country, every day, and I salute Mayor Bloomberg for finally standing up against Big Soda, as well as the American Beverage Association and their big-money lobbists, and doing something about this rampant problem.


We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

We need to just enforce the fatty control laws already on the books.

Fatties dont obey diets, so there's no point forcing them to diet. Unless we can force them to not be fat, there's no point restricting their access to sugar.
 
2013-03-07 12:42:27 PM  

Endive Wombat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?


It is amazing with toasted brioche and a touch of maple syrup.
 
wee
2013-03-07 12:48:01 PM  

justtray: We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.


They can pry the foie gras from my cold, dead hands.
 
2013-03-07 12:53:41 PM  
It's kind of interesting seeing all the beverage trucks with slogans on them that basically say "Tell the Mayor to go fark himself."
 
2013-03-07 12:58:04 PM  
I still can't believe he's getting away with this sh*t.
 
gja
2013-03-07 12:59:30 PM  

wee: justtray: Drinks dont kill people, fatties do.

I just don't know what kind of country we live in where any kid, no matter how old, can walk up to any one of throusands of stores in New York alone, and buy the exact same types of beverages that we sell to our military forces -- and in the same, high-capacity capacity cups!  No waiting period to think about whether this is good for them, no ID check, no questions about obesity or diabetes, the kids just hand their money over and these merchants of death happily give them what they want, in any capacity they want.  No questions asked. What they're doing to our children is unconscionable.
 You never see hunters carrying huge, over-sized Big Gulp cups, do you?  That's because nobody needs more than 16 ounces of soda, and if they do, then they can just buy two.  And a benefit there is the added time and effort in refilling the smaller cup will make them drink soda slower, and therefore kill themselves slower.


We're killing our children by the thousands in this country, every day, and I salute Mayor Bloomberg for finally standing up against Big Soda, as well as the American Beverage Association and their big-money lobbists, and doing something about this rampant problem.


Niiiiice effort:
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-07 12:59:44 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time


Says the guy who has never had foie gras.
 
2013-03-07 01:01:20 PM  

BunkoSquad: jehovahs witness protection: Why hasn't Bloomberg been whacked yet? Oh yeah...the only people allowed to have guns in NYC are cops and mobsters. And he owns both.

Oh, good, we're advocating assassination over the size of your root beer now.



Well that *is* the historically recommended solution for Nazis.
 
2013-03-07 01:09:22 PM  
We need to ban stupid politicians.
 
2013-03-07 01:09:55 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: ZAZ: Was this the law where the maximum fine was $100 per day? They'll cover that in an hour of caffeinated whipped cream sales and the rest of the day is profit.

Why do you think they are going to take 3 months to look at it? And I guarantee there are other laws that will come into play if Starbucks doesn't at least act like they are going to comply.


They have the money to make it to appellate court. Corporations are people too, my friend.
 
2013-03-07 01:10:31 PM  

squibbits: We need to ban stupid politicians.

Empty seats might be a start.
 
2013-03-07 01:12:52 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Endive Wombat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?

It is amazing with toasted brioche and a touch of maple syrup.


Toasted brioche, cherry gelee and caramelized Bing and Rainier Cherries. That was the first time I had foie gras. Mr. Unsympathetic and I bought our car from the owner of a fancy pants restaurant in Woodinville, WA and she threw in dinner with the car. Duck fat focaccia is another mind altering food I had never tried before that night. Plus runny egg on pasta.

/Dinner was bird themed.
//When Mr. Unsympathetic graduates from university, I'm taking him back.
///Double win for me. Hundred Mile Dinner here I come.... just 15 more months.
//Suddenly, Lean Cuisine for lunch sounds like a fail.
/CSS, stop drooling on your keyboard.
 
2013-03-07 01:13:38 PM  

Endive Wombat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?


The production method.
 
2013-03-07 01:16:29 PM  

wee: justtray: We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

They can pry the foie gras from my cold, dead hands.


They banned it here in California.  Rat bastards.
 
2013-03-07 01:17:43 PM  
Techno Destructo prophesied this.

/obscure? Oh yes, this is obscure.
 
2013-03-07 01:17:59 PM  

Endive Wombat: What is to stop retailers and coffee shops from selling two med sized sugar drinks as opposed to one extra large to the same person?


Nothing whatsoever and Mayor Bloomberg has explicitly acknowledged this.  This is an exercise in behavioral economics, like in that book "Nudge."
 
2013-03-07 01:19:22 PM  
Can we please limit the NY hate to NYC? His lunacy does not affect the rest of the state's food laws. Something like 60% of the state's population live OUTSIDE that hole.
 
2013-03-07 01:19:32 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: Endive Wombat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?

The production method.


You are viewing it from the humans point of view.  Ducks/geese/pelicans/etc do not have a gag reflex.  Watch a water foul eat a fish...it goes down whole.

If you are referencing an old video on youtube where the ducks feet are nailed to the ground and are abused, then your opinion is skewed...that was filmed in like Eastern Europe back in the 80's/90's IIRC.

Then again, one could be equally disgusted in modern CAFO beef production...
 
Skr
2013-03-07 01:20:41 PM  
justtray:
We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

We need to just enforce the fatty control laws already on the books.

Fatties dont obey diets, so there's no point forcing them to diet. Unless we can force them to not be fat, there's no point restricting their access to sugar.



With a good portion a law enforcement being overweight, I fear such fatty laws would be akin to dividing by zero, ending the universe as we know it.
 
2013-03-07 01:20:59 PM  
I bet Bloomberg is sitting up in his castle drinking a 2-liter A&W, laughing maniacally while stroking a cat.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:06 PM  

OgreMagi: wee: justtray: We dont need sugar control, we need better fatty control.

They can pry the foie gras from my cold, dead hands.

They banned it here in California.  Rat bastards.


I understand you can BYOFG to restaurants to be cooked for you, like you bring your own wine.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:56 PM  

brap: It's kind of interesting seeing all the beverage trucks with slogans on them that basically say "Tell the Mayor to go fark himself."


Seriously, you should take some pictures of the trucks and post them on fark.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:22 PM  
So, about sugary drinks, does that mean that restaurants can't put sugar packs on tables for those who drink coffee and like to add a bit of sugar?  Or is it that restaurants can't add too much sugar, but customers are free to add as much as they wish?  I honestly haven't heard of this one until now and I am a bit confused by it.  If restaurants can't place sugar packets on tables to allow customers to flavor their coffee as they wish, isn't that basically the very definition of a nanny state?  And if customers are allowed to add as much sugar as they wish, then doesn't that make this insanely stupid law even more pointless?

Doesn't New York City have enough problems right now that need to be addressed long before the subject of sugary drinks is addressed?
 
wee
2013-03-07 01:23:08 PM  

gja: Niiiiice effort:


Thank you!  It almost hurt to write that woolly-headed nonsense.  Not sure how folks like the Brady Bunch do it, to be honest...
 
2013-03-07 01:24:55 PM  
Relative to the bulk of America, New York doesn't have an obesity problem.

/relative
//anecdotally
 
gja
2013-03-07 01:25:11 PM  

zvoidx: I bet Bloomberg is sitting up in his castle drinking a 2-liter A&W, laughing maniacally while stroking a cat.


Yeah, he's stroking SOMEthing, but it ain't a cat.


/get your mind outta the gutter! I was thinking his ego.
 
wee
2013-03-07 01:26:05 PM  

OgreMagi: They banned it here in California. Rat bastards.


Of course they did. You haven't been laboring under the notion that you are an adult who can be well-informed enough to make your own decisions, have you?  Such naïveté...
 
gja
2013-03-07 01:27:08 PM  

Gifted Many Few: Techno Destructo prophesied this.

/obscure? Oh yes, this is obscure.


"We are NOT obscure"
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-07 01:27:54 PM  
 
2013-03-07 01:27:56 PM  
I was once at a gun show where I met the members of the committee to elect RON PAUL. They were nuttier than squirrel poo; but this, a limit on the size of drink, is nuttier than the committee to elect RON PAUL.
 
2013-03-07 01:35:06 PM  
The solution is simple: exercise. Buy your iced quad venti caramel macchiato with whipped cream here. Pick it up at the Starbucks 2 doors down (or across the street)...
 
2013-03-07 01:36:14 PM  

L.D. Ablo: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

Foie gras is delicious.  I was grossed goosed out before I tried it, but absolutely love it now.


FTFY
 
2013-03-07 01:36:28 PM  
image1.frequency.com
 
2013-03-07 01:36:55 PM  
Soylent Green needs to be left overnight on the porch, and skimmed.
 
2013-03-07 01:37:07 PM  

Endive Wombat: Agent Smiths Laugh: Endive Wombat: The Stealth Hippopotamus: They came for the smoker and I said nothing because I didn't smoke...
They came for the transfats and I said nothing because I didn't eat Oreo.
They came for the Foie gras and I kind of helped them 'cause that shiat is nasty.
Now they come for the sugary drinks

/that's a lie I've been yelling the whole time

I was with you until you got to that part.  Foie is FARKING AMAZING.  Its like meat butter.  How can you go wrong?  What is it about the foie that you do not like?

The production method.

You are viewing it from the humans point of view.  Ducks/geese/pelicans/etc do not have a gag reflex.  Watch a water foul eat a fish...it goes down whole.

If you are referencing an old video on youtube where the ducks feet are nailed to the ground and are abused, then your opinion is skewed...that was filmed in like Eastern Europe back in the 80's/90's IIRC.

Then again, one could be equally disgusted in modern CAFO beef production...


Great Janitor: So, about sugary drinks, does that mean that restaurants can't put sugar packs on tables for those who drink coffee and like to add a bit of sugar?  Or is it that restaurants can't add too much sugar, but customers are free to add as much as they wish?  I honestly haven't heard of this one until now and I am a bit confused by it.  If restaurants can't place sugar packets on tables to allow customers to flavor their coffee as they wish, isn't that basically the very definition of a nanny state?  And if customers are allowed to add as much sugar as they wish, then doesn't that make this insanely stupid law even more pointless?

Doesn't New York City have enough problems right now that need to be addressed long before the subject of sugary drinks is addressed?


No sugar packets. You must go to another store for that if, you have a prescription authorized by your insurance company. It's the only way we can be safe.
 
2013-03-07 01:37:53 PM  
Sadly, Starbucks really does need to reduce sugar. I think they have been bumping up sugar in their frappuchinos over the past 5 years. They no longer resemble iced coffee...it's just syrupy shiat.
 
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