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(Bleacher Report)   Not News: Hoops fan pulled from stands for $20K half-court shot contest. News: He sinks it. Dusty: He plans to use the money to pay for his wife's cancer treatments   (bleacherreport.com) divider line 85
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2013-03-07 12:28:41 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: Didn't Obamamessiah make healthcare free?

The opposite, actually. He made it way more expensive for all us regular folks, but he DID succeed in putting billions of new dollars every year in the insurance industry's pocket! So we've got that going for us, which is nice.


So then 'job creators' got more money. Isn't that a good thing?
 
2013-03-07 12:29:03 PM  
PoderOmega: ....USA, proving yet again that freedom isn't cheap.

It costs folks like you and me.  And that guy's wife, apparently.
 
2013-03-07 12:30:59 PM  

doubled99: Doc Daneeka: Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.

Really, ONLY in America?

If we're discussing just first world countries, then yes, absolutely only in America.

I truly don't understand why anyone thinks every horrible thing that could happen to you should be taken care of by the government.


I truly don't understand why anyone thinks that the purpose and powers of a government shouldn't include promoting the health and well-being of it's citizens.
 
2013-03-07 12:32:01 PM  
They have seven kids. Unless the birthed them at home they have insurance. Or they're in debt up to to their eyeballs in hospital bills already
 
2013-03-07 12:33:58 PM  
The $20K probably will go a fairly long way because the article never said he didn't have insurance. He's probably got to cover the $2500 deductible and 20% of the total up to his $10K out of pocket maximum.
 
2013-03-07 12:36:51 PM  

Deneb81: I truly don't understand why anyone thinks that the purpose and powers of a government shouldn't include promoting the health and well-being of it's citizens.


I think the last government to actually do that was Charlemagne. Our government has been selling us out to teh highest bidder since at least World War II. Obama just took it to another level.
 
2013-03-07 12:37:40 PM  
Deneb81      
doubled99: Doc Daneeka: Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.
Really, ONLY in America?
If we're discussing just first world countries, then yes, absolutely only in America.
I truly don't understand why anyone thinks every horrible thing that could happen to you should be taken care of by the government.
I truly don't understand why anyone thinks that the purpose and powers of a government shouldn't include promoting the health and well-being of it's citizens.


Because the left isn't pushing promote, they are pushing provide.  That's the key difference
 
2013-03-07 12:38:27 PM  

IAmRight: fonebone77: I dont know if they got in this way, but at Thunder games they give away at least 50 pairs of tickets before every home game.

Yeah, virtually all teams (in all sports) give away quite a few tickets to every game. And lots of season-ticket holders don't make it to every game, and might have friends that they give tickets to on occasion. There are any number of ways to get into sports games for free. You just have to know the right people.


My way is I sell tickets to 5 or 6 games and maybe a few playoff games to pay for my season tickets.
 
2013-03-07 12:39:33 PM  
Doc Daneeka: Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.

Really, ONLY in America?

If we're discussing just first world countries, then yes, absolutely only in America.

I truly don't understand why anyone thinks every horrible thing that could happen to you should be taken care of by the government.

I truly don't understand why anyone thinks that the purpose and powers of a government shouldn't include promoting the health and well-being of it's citizens.


Promoting? Sure, that's fine. But that's not what you want.
 
gja
2013-03-07 12:54:51 PM  

Vodka Zombie: gja: I know "welcome to FARK" and all that snark, but FFS people, grow a heart.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Fark isn't the truly heartless one here?


So who exactly ARE you saying has no heart, then? Don't "throw grenades into a room", as it were.
Try "Did you ever stop to think that maybe Fark isn't the truly heartless one here? But xxxxxx is."

Sorry man, I have no humor left in me where cancer is concerned.
And we ARE fark, collectively.
 
2013-03-07 01:13:46 PM  
If I get cancer, I don't want anyone spending tens or hundreds of thousands to keep me alive a little longer.  Even if there's a chance of beating it.  Do something enjoyable with the money and let me pass on when my time comes.  Giving your life savings to doctors and hospitals for a few more weeks/months with a loved one?  No thanks...  Is it really the amount of time one lives that's important?
 
2013-03-07 01:21:28 PM  

gja: Vodka Zombie: gja: I know "welcome to FARK" and all that snark, but FFS people, grow a heart.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Fark isn't the truly heartless one here?

So who exactly ARE you saying has no heart, then? Don't "throw grenades into a room", as it were.
Try "Did you ever stop to think that maybe Fark isn't the truly heartless one here? But xxxxxx is."

Sorry man, I have no humor left in me where cancer is concerned.
And we ARE fark, collectively.


I'm saying you should maybe look at the insurance company as the heartless one in this equation. Or, maybe look at those in America who believe this guy's situation is indicative of the "Grrrratist Health Care Systum in Duh Werld," and a perfectly acceptable thing.

Anyway, I'm not saying you're heartless. Sorry if that came out that way.
 
2013-03-07 01:33:26 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: They have seven kids. Unless the birthed them at home they have insurance. Or they're in debt up to to their eyeballs in hospital bills already


I don't know why you seem to think that you have to have insurance to give birth in a hospital. My step-son's slut ex-gf got pregnant (not his baby), while she was still in highschool, and the government paid for the whole thing.  She was a dirt poor mexican-american. Her dad was in prison and her mom was on welfare and doesn't work. So, they didn't pay one cent out of pocket and she gave birth in a nice hospital and even had a private room for 2 days after the birth. Our tax dollars paid for the 3D ultrasounds, the private room, the delivery, the epidural, and the episiotomy, so she'd be nice and tight for the next baby daddy.

Now, guess who's paying to feed and raise the kid. You and me, and the rest of us, who pay taxes!
 
gja
2013-03-07 01:42:26 PM  

Vodka Zombie: gja: Vodka Zombie: gja: I know "welcome to FARK" and all that snark, but FFS people, grow a heart.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Fark isn't the truly heartless one here?

So who exactly ARE you saying has no heart, then? Don't "throw grenades into a room", as it were.
Try "Did you ever stop to think that maybe Fark isn't the truly heartless one here? But xxxxxx is."

Sorry man, I have no humor left in me where cancer is concerned.
And we ARE fark, collectively.

I'm saying you should maybe look at the insurance company as the heartless one in this equation. Or, maybe look at those in America who believe this guy's situation is indicative of the "Grrrratist Health Care Systum in Duh Werld," and a perfectly acceptable thing.

Anyway, I'm not saying you're heartless. Sorry if that came out that way.


Yeah, if we don't fix health care in this place we are so gonna screw ourselves and our kids.
I do NOT want to be a burden to my daughter when I get too old to be on my own.
And I don't want her to sweat the med bills like me and my siblings are right now with my dad.
I'm already broke from the divorce, I damned sure didn't need surprise bills from the bill fairy.
 
2013-03-07 02:08:06 PM  

porcupine tree: Contrabulous Flabtraption: They have seven kids. Unless the birthed them at home they have insurance. Or they're in debt up to to their eyeballs in hospital bills already

I don't know why you seem to think that you have to have insurance to give birth in a hospital. My step-son's slut ex-gf got pregnant (not his baby), while she was still in highschool, and the government paid for the whole thing.  She was a dirt poor mexican-american. Her dad was in prison and her mom was on welfare and doesn't work. So, they didn't pay one cent out of pocket and she gave birth in a nice hospital and even had a private room for 2 days after the birth. Our tax dollars paid for the 3D ultrasounds, the private room, the delivery, the epidural, and the episiotomy, so she'd be nice and tight for the next baby daddy.

Now, guess who's paying to feed and raise the kid. You and me, and the rest of us, who pay taxes!


Wow, you make helping to feed and school poor children seem like such a terrible tax burden. Considering you'd spend far more on jailing them if they didn't get a decent education, I'd wager you're one of those new "conservative" types who believes in being penny wise and pound foolish.
 
2013-03-07 02:36:14 PM  

doubled99: Doc Daneeka: Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.

Really, ONLY in America?

If we're discussing just first world countries, then yes, absolutely only in America.

I truly don't understand why anyone thinks every horrible thing that could happen to you should be taken care of by the government.


Ummmmm, because we give the government our money and they work for us and they should do what they are told???

Cancer is free in Canada. Well, um, you know what I mean.

/just heard my best friends wife's cancer is back, she's 43.
//his only worry is the two kids, not losing their house.
 
2013-03-07 02:43:20 PM  

wygit: If he needs money for his wife's cancer treatments, WTF is he doing buying basketball tickets?


 
It looks like from reading a local source they were given the tickets as a birthday present.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:28 PM  
Yeah, I hate to be "that guy", but why is he a hero, exactly?


I was going ot ask about the misuse of hero tag myself...

/one of "those" guys apparently
 
2013-03-07 02:50:32 PM  
Hero? Are we really calling someone a hero for doing this. You're an asshole if you don't, not a hero if you do.
 
2013-03-07 03:07:15 PM  
i dunno.  20k should let them afford to move to Venezuela for free healthcare.
 
2013-03-07 03:21:04 PM  

porcupine tree: Contrabulous Flabtraption: They have seven kids. Unless the birthed them at home they have insurance. Or they're in debt up to to their eyeballs in hospital bills already

I don't know why you seem to think that you have to have insurance to give birth in a hospital. My step-son's slut ex-gf got pregnant (not his baby), while she was still in highschool, and the government paid for the whole thing.  She was a dirt poor mexican-american. Her dad was in prison and her mom was on welfare and doesn't work. So, they didn't pay one cent out of pocket and she gave birth in a nice hospital and even had a private room for 2 days after the birth. Our tax dollars paid for the 3D ultrasounds, the private room, the delivery, the epidural, and the episiotomy, so she'd be nice and tight for the next baby daddy.

Now, guess who's paying to feed and raise the kid. You and me, and the rest of us, who pay taxes!



Should've just kicked her down the stairs - the miscarriage and facial stitches would've been cheaper. Way to not save yourself and other taxpayers a bunch of money, jerkface.

/This is what porcupines actually believe!
 
2013-03-07 03:26:32 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Lost Thought 00: Only in America

Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.

Pathetic.


No, it's the same in many third world countries as well.
 
2013-03-07 03:48:53 PM  

firefly212: porcupine tree: Contrabulous Flabtraption: They have seven kids. Unless the birthed them at home they have insurance. Or they're in debt up to to their eyeballs in hospital bills already

I don't know why you seem to think that you have to have insurance to give birth in a hospital. My step-son's slut ex-gf got pregnant (not his baby), while she was still in highschool, and the government paid for the whole thing.  She was a dirt poor mexican-american. Her dad was in prison and her mom was on welfare and doesn't work. So, they didn't pay one cent out of pocket and she gave birth in a nice hospital and even had a private room for 2 days after the birth. Our tax dollars paid for the 3D ultrasounds, the private room, the delivery, the epidural, and the episiotomy, so she'd be nice and tight for the next baby daddy.

Now, guess who's paying to feed and raise the kid. You and me, and the rest of us, who pay taxes!

Wow, you make helping to feed and school poor children seem like such a terrible tax burden. Considering you'd spend far more on jailing them if they didn't get a decent education, I'd wager you're one of those new "conservative" types who believes in being penny wise and pound foolish.


Actually, when we thought it was my step-son's baby, we recommended they have an abortion. Does that sound 'conservative' to you?

I don't have an issue with welfare, unless it's abused, but I also don't agree that we should just happily throw money at stupid people, just because it's easier than dealing with their criminal children later. For one thing, that's no guarantee that they won't end up in prison anyway.  Also, the baby probably won't end up in jail. It's a girl, so it will probably just end up making more welfare babies.

BTW, the mother is not even 20 years old, and has already had 2 more babies, one of which she gave up to her grandmother. She's a piece of shiat who lives off the government teat, and breeds future leeches. What happens when the leeches outnumber the hosts?
 
2013-03-07 05:09:12 PM  
Thank the great loving Jesus for cancer treatment money!

Still, fark him for giving the lady cancer in the first place.
 
2013-03-07 05:11:28 PM  

doubled99: Doc Daneeka: Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.

Really, ONLY in America?

If we're discussing just first world countries, then yes, absolutely only in America.

I truly don't understand why anyone thinks every horrible thing that could happen to you should be taken care of by the government.


Good luck with that--and while you are at it, don't ever call the police nor the fire department neither.
 
2013-03-07 05:19:16 PM  
@PorcupineTree
Sure I am responding to a troll, probably, but this type of nonsense is so prevalent that it has to be addressed.

Lets say that 1 percent of the households is this Leech (1.2 million households out of 120 Million) and it takes 300K to raise a child in todays society from birth to 21.
(2 x 300k X 1.2 Million)/21 years = $34.3 Billion a year to the US tax payers to have 1.2 million families on welfare at basic level with no other income or economic activity.
So at the top 1 percent if they are supposed to pay 35% and actually pay 13-17% and lets be conservative that they earn only $2 million a year on average (some of those 1.2 million households are earning 2 Billion in a year, buts lets just say on average)
Those people should be paying ~600K in taxes a year, but are probably only paying ~200K so they get 400K a year in savings where most people don't get that type of reduction.
1 X $400,000 X 1.2 Million Households =  960 Billion of tax not being collected each year.
So if every year the worst leaches at the bottom 1% are costing society $34.3 Billion a year, and the ultra rich 1% with their great tax advantages are costing the US treasury $960 Billion a year. Who are the people doing the most damage, and hurting the US's ability to provide the structures neccesary for the health and well being of the country the most?
And of course there aren't anywhere near 1.2 Million households, that do absolutely nothing economic in the country, even if it is just sales tax, property tax from renters, or babysitting (free or paid) for other family members/community members etc.

In 1980, we had only 30,000 households that were not getting enough calories to consume during the day, and now the stats say that 1 in 8 children and 1 in 12 adults face not getting sufficient dietary calories on an average day. (12.5% and 8.25%)
Not to mention the fact that 60% of the country couldn't go 6 months without income before having trouble with their housing or transportation or other major needs, and if a serious medical event occured that they couldn't even last 2 months without their primary income provider's take home pay.
The US has fallen prey to the "moocher", "welfare queen" fallacies and has allowed the top 1% to essentially steal the country, and for nothing in the end, because the 1% still die of cancer (Steve Jobs) just like the poor person, at exactly the same age ranges.
 
2013-03-07 05:22:26 PM  
I had a dear friend die of this kind of cancer, right before Thanksgiving. She went very, very fast. So, I haz a sad for the man and his family, 7 kids(!) and all.

If he went out for a night to have some fun, then good for him. In that kind of situation you need some "normal" in your life.

As for how much of the medical it will pay, that isn't the issue. The issue is if it  eases his mind a tiny bit, then it is money well spent.

Better than spending it on hookers and blow.
 
2013-03-07 05:28:09 PM  
I hate to be "that guy", but SEVEN CHILDREN?!1

This dude is either Mormon or Catholic. Either way, shouldn't he be putting this wife's future in the hands of his chosen invisible sky god instead of taking silly 1/2 court shots?
 
2013-03-07 05:49:17 PM  
@ Darch
Yes the 7 Kids aspect sounds very 19th century, not 21st,

However, his ticket number was drawn (the tickets that he got for free apparently), and he had the ability to shoot a basketball once for 20K.
He got to do what most of the NBA players get every month that they go to work, and some of them earn more than 20K per game.

So, what would the commentary lines be like if an NBA player with 7 kids had a wife who was dying of cancer and got a 20K bonus for going and doing something mundane like doing a meet and greet at store grand opening? That would probably get the Hero Tag too, but for different reasons.
 
2013-03-07 06:41:49 PM  

Acravius: @ Darch
Yes the 7 Kids aspect sounds very 19th century, not 21st,

However, his ticket number was drawn (the tickets that he got for free apparently), and he had the ability to shoot a basketball once for 20K.
He got to do what most of the NBA players get every month that they go to work, and some of them earn more than 20K per game.

So, what would the commentary lines be like if an NBA player with 7 kids had a wife who was dying of cancer and got a 20K bonus for going and doing something mundane like doing a meet and greet at store grand opening? That would probably get the Hero Tag too, but for different reasons.


That's some circuitous logic there, buddy.
 
2013-03-07 07:03:14 PM  

darch: I hate to be "that guy", but SEVEN CHILDREN?!1

This dude is either Mormon or Catholic. Either way, shouldn't he be putting this wife's future in the hands of his chosen invisible sky god instead of taking silly 1/2 court shots?


At least some logic was involved in my comment. Unlike your statement quoted above.
I'm not your "buddy", internet neighbor.

/David Eddings - The Elenium and the Tamuli series
//Sparhawk addresses everyone new as "neighbor", to avoid the buddy/pal dilemma
///Just to complete the set.
 
2013-03-07 09:09:27 PM  

wygit: If he needs money for his wife's cancer treatments, WTF is he doing buying basketball tickets?


So because your wife is sick, you are no longer allowed to spend money having fun?  Maybe he was there with his wife?  Or maybe his kids needed cheering up after spending days in the hospital sitting next to mommy?  I have to think that a little money on enjoying life is a sound investment in avoiding depression.  Besides, what if he got them for cheap, or won them at work, or got them as a present or something?  Jeezus, so frickin' judgmental.
 
2013-03-07 09:13:29 PM  

tigerose: I had a dear friend die of this kind of cancer, right before Thanksgiving. She went very, very fast. So, I haz a sad for the man and his family, 7 kids(!) and all.

If he went out for a night to have some fun, then good for him. In that kind of situation you need some "normal" in your life.

As for how much of the medical it will pay, that isn't the issue. The issue is if it eases his mind a tiny bit, then it is money well spent.


Agreed.  My grandpa died of the same thing.  He fought it for years.  I dunno how much of the medical was covered, but the idea that a whole family can just give up on enjoying life for months or years at a time for the sake of paying medical bills is just utter nonsense.  It would drive anyone to insanity.
 
2013-03-07 10:07:59 PM  

Acravius: Those people should be paying ~600K in taxes a year, but are probably only paying ~200K so they get 400K a year in savings where most people don't get that type of reduction.


How dare they let those people keep SOME of their money.

They should by taxed at MORE THAN 100%.
 
2013-03-09 04:20:10 PM  

theMagni: Doc Daneeka: Lost Thought 00: Only in America

Only in America would a person have to pay for necessary and life-saving medical care out-of-pocket, possibly going bankrupt in the process, or else die if you can't afford it.

Pathetic.

Have you seen the UK version of Breaking Bad?  Its just five years of William (they call him William, sounds less American) going to NHS and getting chemotherapy.


I've been watching an amazing nurse of 20 years at my hospital getting her ass kicked by cancer the past week,

Doctor told her this week the cancer has spread all over. No chance for recovery.

i don't often swear, but fark cancer
 
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