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(Grantland)   This is the year that fans in Tampa, Toronto and Baltimore will finally get to drink their fill of Yankee fans' tears. Boston, you can go screw regardless of whether this prediction is right   (grantland.com ) divider line
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2013-03-07 11:54:45 AM  
As someone that grew up in those sub-.500 years... meh. It'll be nice to be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.
 
2013-03-07 12:28:33 PM  
A look at the team's top prospect as ranked by Baseball America every year is instructive. After Jeter topped the list in 1994, their top prospects include Ruben Rivera (three times),4 Eric Milton, Nick Johnson (three times), Drew Henson, Jose Contreras, Dioner Navarro, Eric Duncan, Phil Hughes (twice), Joba Chamberlain, Austin Jackson, and Jesus Montero (three times). Hughes is the only player on that list who was neither a bust nor traded for established veterans early in his career.

The Tigers getting Austin Jackson, Max Scherzer, and Phil Coke for Curtis Granderson is probably the best trade they've made in my lifetime.

Holy sh*t, that trade looks better every year.
 
2013-03-07 12:51:36 PM  
They let em all grow old together. Should have started buying replacements a few years ago.
 
2013-03-07 01:04:00 PM  
You mean if a team wins constantly they have less of a chance to pick high in the draft?
 
2013-03-07 01:04:56 PM  
I'm crying for the Yankees.

/Actually I'm not
// More like a grinning ear to ear
/// It's nice to see Boston and NY sluming at the bottom of the division.
 
2013-03-07 01:09:55 PM  
Boston is learning that winning the World Series is the worst thing that could to their mythology. They're just another team now.
 
2013-03-07 01:15:27 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Boston is learning that winning the World Series is the worst thing that could to their mythology. you don't put selling bricks, TV ads, and pink hats over fielding a cohesive, well rounded, and competitive core group of players.They're just another team now.


FTFY.

Also can't wait to buy day of game tickets at Fenway. Fark you ACE, Stub hub, and street scalpers.
 
2013-03-07 01:18:43 PM  

WTF Indeed: You mean if a team wins constantly they have less of a chance to pick high in the draft?


High picks in baseball are almost meaningless, especially when you can just buy those players a few years down the road.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:16 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: /// It's nice to see Boston and NY sluming at the bottom of the division.


That's pretty presumptuous. I'm not a fan of Boston's acquisitions to a shiatty team this offseason, and the Yankees' issues are well-documented. But there hasn't been a single game played yet, and the other AL East teams have their issues.

Toronto looks great on paper, but that's a lot of new players, some of whom are playing in the AL for the first time (Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson) and some of whom are getting up there in years (Mark Buerhle, R.A. Dickey). I think the Blue Jays will be competitive, but they wouldn't be the first team to load up on trades and free agents and then fail miserably.

Baltimore did nothing in the offseason except lose one of their starting pitchers (Joe Saunders) and one of their power hitters (Mark Reynolds, although granted he had a fluky season), and it speaks to their rotation that Joe Saunders got a postseason start with them. They have a solid core of good young players (Adam Jones, Nick Markakis, Matt Wieters, etc.), but their run differential and record in one-run games last season suggests they had a lot of lucky breaks go their way. They could have another winning season, but I don't think they're a lock to do that at all.

I haven't kept up with what the Rays have done in the offseason, but beyond that James Shield trade I don't think they added anything. The pieces they got from the Royals (Wil Myers and co.) seem pretty good, but they're untested and it remains to be seen if they'll contribute at the MLB level this season. In the meantime they're down a SP, and this is a team that's decent but wasn't good enough to get into the postseason last season. A full season of Evan Longoria could help, but I'm not sold on the Rays just yet.

/not a fan of any AL East team
 
2013-03-07 01:26:52 PM  
Finally, their seemingly endless run of titles will end!
 
2013-03-07 01:28:04 PM  

soopey: Crewmannumber6: Boston is learning that winning the World Series is the worst thing that could to their mythology. you don't put selling bricks, TV ads, and pink hats over fielding a cohesive, well rounded, and competitive core group of players.They're just another team now.

FTFY.

Also can't wait to buy day of game tickets at Fenway. Fark you ACE, Stub hub, and street scalpers.


I'm speaking more as a fan from another town. Living in Cincinnati, I'm clearly a Reds' fan. But I've always been of the mind that if the Reds don't make it, I hope the Sox do. I don't do that anymore.
 
2013-03-07 01:30:18 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: As someone that grew up in those sub-.500 years... meh. It'll be nice to be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.


So you're the guy who still buys tickets from the box office and not stub hub.
 
2013-03-07 01:31:05 PM  
/not a fan of any AL East team

Neither em I. Just don't care for them
 
2013-03-07 01:32:33 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: As someone that grew up in those sub-.500 years... meh. It'll be nice to be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.


As someone who lived through the era of crap in Toronto it'll be nice to not be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.

/Let's go Blue Jays!
 
2013-03-07 01:32:45 PM  
It's shame that by 2016 the Yankees will have outfield of Heathcott, Williams, and Austin with Sanchez behind the plate all making league minimum and under team control for fours years.
 
2013-03-07 01:43:43 PM  
fark yeah, let's go toronto.

who are we kidding, the yanks will find a way to keep it tight.  always.

/stay in your hole bosox
 
2013-03-07 01:47:12 PM  

Flappyhead: WTF Indeed: You mean if a team wins constantly they have less of a chance to pick high in the draft?

High picks in baseball are almost meaningless, especially when you can just buy those players a few years down the road.


Pretty much. Basketball, draft position is everything. Football, it still means a bunch. Baseball? You might as well draw names out of a hat. Even if you've got the #1 pick, unless he's downright steamrolled through the minors so he can get called up faster (and everybody goes through the minors save for maybe literally one guy every couple years), by the time he finally works his way up, odds are you're going to be like, 'who?'
 
2013-03-07 01:49:36 PM  
TL; DR: the AL East is death this year and the Yankees are merely average.
 
2013-03-07 01:50:32 PM  
Breaking news off MLB Network's ticker: Mariano Rivera's making this season his farewell tour.
 
2013-03-07 01:55:58 PM  
As a Baltimore fan, I look forward to the day when I can longer buy tickets with food stamps and used crack pipes.

Not really a Baltimore fan.
Baseball died for me in 1996.
 
2013-03-07 01:57:23 PM  
Would have been interesting to be around New York in the mid-to-late-80s when the Mets were one of the best teams in baseball and the Yankees spent several years in the basement.

Must seem like bizarro world New York.
 
2013-03-07 02:11:34 PM  
"Boston is learning that winning the World Series is the worst thing that could (happen) to their mythology. They're just another team now."

Yea, they should totally give back those World Series trophies because now they're nothing special.

Listen, first of all that whole Curse of the Bambino thing was made up by idiot columnist Dan Shaunessy and its only use was to promote himself. And as for just another team, that's only because the players suck this year, not because fans can't pity the Sox for not winning a WS.

Furthermore the Sox are one of the few road teams who can draw fans to opponents parks in great numbers.
 
2013-03-07 02:13:38 PM  

Klitch: ThatGuyGreg: As someone that grew up in those sub-.500 years... meh. It'll be nice to be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.

So you're the guy who still buys tickets from the box office and not stub hub.


Good luck with that, the Yankees led the push for MLB to fark over Stubhub this year
 
2013-03-07 02:22:49 PM  

The Muthaship: Finally, their seemingly endless run of titles will end!


It happens.  Being a fan since '76, I've seen the highs and lows.  But you got to stick with them.

But now that I have the Nats here as a hometown club, I root for them a little more, and certainly see them much more.  It's more fun to watch a team get good for the first time.  NY will always be there in August to start paying real attention to.
 
2013-03-07 02:29:33 PM  

skinink: "Boston is learning that winning the World Series is the worst thing that could (happen) to their mythology. They're just another team now."

Yea, they should totally give back those World Series trophies because now they're nothing special.

Listen, first of all that whole Curse of the Bambino thing was made up by idiot columnist Dan Shaunessy and its only use was to promote himself. And as for just another team, that's only because the players suck this year, not because fans can't pity the Sox for not winning a WS.

Furthermore the Sox are one of the few road teams who can draw fans to opponents parks in great numbers.


http://www.theonion.com/articles/pretty-cute-watching-boston-residen ts -play-daily-g,31554/

Just because, F Boston!
 
2013-03-07 02:34:01 PM  

Klitch: ThatGuyGreg: As someone that grew up in those sub-.500 years... meh. It'll be nice to be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.

So you're the guy who still buys tickets from the box office and not stub hub.


I try. If I buy from StubHub, I buy midweek games for below face value... haven't paid more than $20 for an infield grandstand seat in years.

This year, my friend & I bought a 16-game Saturday partial season ticket plan. Probably will sell a couple on the internets before the season's through.
 
2013-03-07 02:36:17 PM  
It's going to become a realistic option to bag out at noon and head up to the stadium for a getaway game on thursday and actually get in for below face value.
 
2013-03-07 02:37:04 PM  

thecpt: fark yeah, let's go toronto.

who are we kidding, the yanks will find a way to keep it tight.  always.

/stay in your hole bosox


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2013-03-07 02:37:41 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Boston is learning that winning the World Series is the worst thing that could to their mythology. They're just another team now.


Doesn't matter. They could go without winning another game ever and it would have still been worth it just to watch NY piss away a 3-0 series lead.
 
2013-03-07 02:44:29 PM  
I'm not yet convinced the Dodgers and their payroll which rivals the GDP of Brazil will finish with a better record than the Yankees, and that's assuming Tex and Granderson do take a full month and half to get back in the lineup.

LA certainly has plenty of talent, but between not knowing which Crawford they're going to get, Adrian Gonzalez's diminishing production, and the fact they'll still probably find a way to play Juan Uribe more games than he deserves (if you're curious, "Amount of games Juan Uribe deserves to play on any MLB team" = less than 1)...
 
2013-03-07 02:44:43 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
Remind us all how this worked out.

Teams don't win World Series in March.
Teams aren't counted out until September*

/*offer not valid for Mets or Red Sox
 
2013-03-07 02:51:13 PM  

mainstreet62: /*offer not valid for Mets or Red Sox

Slashie not valid in 1986

 
2013-03-07 02:55:52 PM  

umad: Doesn't matter. They could go without winning another game ever and it would have still been worth it just to watch NY piss away a 3-0 series lead.


This.

mainstreet62: Remind us all how this worked out.


There wasn't one Red Sox fan I know of who read that headline and had a positive reaction.
 
2013-03-07 03:08:02 PM  
Tampa runs away with the division.
 
2013-03-07 03:22:14 PM  

GAT_00: TL; DR: the AL East is death this year and the Yankees are merely average.


THIS
 
2013-03-07 03:29:19 PM  
Let's Go BUCS !

\ Playoff bound
\\ Till the break
 
2013-03-07 03:35:26 PM  

Tabe: Let's Go BUCS !

\ Playoff bound
\\ Till the break




Pittsburg is the NL team I'm rooting for. Maybe them and my beloved KC will be above .500

/ I got one KC thread this year so I'm satisfied.
// If KC & Pittsburg have winning seasons is that a sign of end times?
/// Reguired third slashie
 
2013-03-07 04:08:52 PM  

4NSpy: Tampa runs away with the division.


Yeah. As bad as the Yankees might be, let's not go overboard with the love for the Blue Jays. Name me the last team that went on a huge trade-and-free agency shopping spree and ended up winning the division? The answer is the Yankees in 09, but that situation is a bit different (they already had a good core, they weren't changing over as much of the roster). It is very seldom that you turn over that much of your roster and it works out immediately. The Blue Jays will be good, but let's not forget tha those guys acquired in the trade didn't propel the Marlins to a better position, and that was with Giancarlo Stanton, Hanley Ramirez, Heath Bell and Anibal Sanchez on the team. And while I love Dickey and all things knuckleball, you can't be entirely comfortable with projecting him to have another Cy-worthy season at age 38, against tougher competition and in more hitter-friendly ballparks.

And as the article points out, the Orioles' success last year was untenable. The Rays are the only team that don't have huge question marks compared to their team last season (BJ Upton is not a huge loss, and you can't convince me otherwise). They have the deepest rotation in baseball, deep enough to send two quality starters to Kansas City for a top prospect and that fact to still be true.
 
2013-03-07 04:27:35 PM  

lacydog: Yeah. As bad as the Yankees might be, let's not go overboard with the love for the Blue Jays.


I'm a blue jay fan, but holy hell I have no clue why "experts" are saying we're the favorite.  I think anyone who is a fan is just overly excited.  But give us a break; its been sooooo long since we've done any move of significance or that has shown that mgmt is actually trying to compete  to win.  Not just compete, but to flat out win the title.

At this point, I'd be psyched for a wild card.
 
2013-03-07 04:41:53 PM  
Never underestimate the value of a Bobby Valentine-free clubhouse.
 
2013-03-07 05:00:58 PM  
Over in the NL, the Nats get to (hopefully) enjoy a full season from Strasberg
 
2013-03-07 06:00:38 PM  
I think the AL East order is gonna end at Baltimore, Toronto, Tampa Bay, NY Yankees, Boston. Anyone that pays attention to baseball has seen the demise of the Yankees coming for a few years now, it was only a matter of time before their core stars all hit their mid-to-late 30s and entered their decline. I think they win 85 games at best this season.
 
2013-03-07 06:13:42 PM  

scoughlin: I think the AL East order is gonna end at Baltimore, Toronto, Tampa Bay, NY Yankees, Boston. Anyone that pays attention to baseball has seen the demise of the Yankees coming for a few years now, it was only a matter of time before their core stars all hit their mid-to-late 30s and entered their decline. I think they win 85 games at best this season.


bookmarked for posterity
 
2013-03-07 06:16:26 PM  
Mexico leading Italy 5-4 top of the 9th. Sergio Romo on for the save for Mexico.
 
2013-03-07 06:23:34 PM  

Gosling: Flappyhead: WTF Indeed: You mean if a team wins constantly they have less of a chance to pick high in the draft?

High picks in baseball are almost meaningless, especially when you can just buy those players a few years down the road.

Pretty much. Basketball, draft position is everything. Football, it still means a bunch. Baseball? You might as well draw names out of a hat. Even if you've got the #1 pick, unless he's downright steamrolled through the minors so he can get called up faster (and everybody goes through the minors save for maybe literally one guy every couple years), by the time he finally works his way up, odds are you're going to be like, 'who?'


for giggles the #1 draft pick going back a few years with Allstar appearances in parenthesis,  only 1 or 2 names on the list not ringing any bells tho

1984 Shawn Abner
1985 BJ Surhoff (1)
1986 Jeff King
1987 Ken Griffey Jr (13)
1988 Andy Benes (1)
1989 Ben McDonald
1990 Chipper Jones (8)
1991 Brien Taylor
1992 Phil Nevin
1993 Alex Rodrieguez (15)
1994 Paul Wilson
1995 Darren Erstad (2)
1996 Kris Benson
1997 Matt Anderson
1998 Pat Burrell
1999 Josh Hamilton (5)
2000 Andrian Gonzelez (4)
2001 Joe Mauer (5)
2002 Bryan Bullington
2003 Delmon Young
2004 Matt Bush
2005 Justin Upton (2)
2006 Luke Hochevar
2007 David Price
2008 Tim Beckham
2009 Stephen Strasburg (1)
2010 Byrce Harper (1)
2011 Garrit Cole
2012 Carlos Correa
 
2013-03-07 06:25:29 PM  
..and Romo blows the save.. 6-5 Italy
 
2013-03-07 06:32:01 PM  
WinoRhino: There wasn't one Red Sox fan I know of who read that headline and had a positive reaction. No one reads the Herald and takes it seriously.
 
2013-03-07 06:32:11 PM  

Klitch: ThatGuyGreg: As someone that grew up in those sub-.500 years... meh. It'll be nice to be able to buy tickets day-of-game again.

So you're the guy who still buys tickets from the box office and not stub hub.


I thought tickets to the new Yankee Stadium are quite pricey even though their stands were empty last year.  It would be nice if the prices are reasonable for the first series vs the Red Sox, but I imagine that might be their only sell-out the entire year.  I am a red Sox fan but enjoy just watching baseball, I would watch the Royals play the Diamondbacks (no offense if you are a fan), Yankee fans are not fun to be around while watching these games.  Heck, Philly fans are far nicer to Sox fans when I go to Philly.  I guess sometimes it might have to do with the record, like the Yankees.  If they are good, they won't shut up, if they are losing, they are a tad more civil at the stadium.  Philly radio is the worst though.  Uber-biased.

Is the new Yankee Stadium nice?
What does a lower level seat go for?  It doesn't have to be against the Sox, I just want to sit about 20 rows from the field.
If anyone has any tickets to sell for Philly, Boston or Yankee home games, let me know.
 
2013-03-07 06:42:52 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: Is the new Yankee Stadium nice?
What does a lower level seat go for?  It doesn't have to be against the Sox, I just want to sit about 20 rows from the field.


it's niceish but for the price, I don't know.  As an unbiased attendee on two occasions, I've enjoyed other ball parks (including Citi Field) more.  IIRC our left field first row were $120 each and our first row second deck above 1st base were about 180 each.  Depends of course on when you buy.  We bought the latter before the season so we go hosed.

/take the train in.  No matter what.
 
2013-03-07 06:52:21 PM  
Italy holds on and upsets Mexico 6-5 to open Pool D play.
 
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