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(Sportige)   Since reforming and re-entering the NFL in 1999, the Cleveland Browns have had 18 different starting quarterbacks. None of them have a winning record with the team   (sportige.com) divider line 84
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2013-03-07 03:32:32 PM
The most successful franchise in the AFC is the Pittsburgh Steelers.  They have had three coaches in the last forty four years.  There is the answer.
 
2013-03-07 03:34:30 PM

Mikey1969: CavalierEternal: Mikey1969: Meh, the Ravens have been artound since '44, considering that they were the entire Browns organization with a new name

No.

You just keep yanking it and convincing yourself that the Ravens aren't just Cleveland's leftovers.


Considering that there's not a single player on that team from the pre-1999 Browns? Yeah, no. No connection.

By all means, though, keep up the misinformed Sports Tab trolling. It's cute, like watching a retard hump a doorknob.
 
2013-03-07 03:35:59 PM
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2013-03-07 04:04:17 PM
The problem isn't really the QB, its the guys they're throwing to that's the real problem.  The Browns have had mediocre to almost good QBs, but they're throwing to chumps like Greg Little who have more dropped passes than catches.  Tossing inexperienced and/or a so-so QB into a game w/ an entire team of butter fingers and you're asking for trouble.  Should have just ridden out Wallace or McCoy for another year or two and used the picks on receivers or trade bait
 
2013-03-07 04:18:43 PM
They have top-to-bottom management problems that results in poor personnel decisions.  The QB is only one (albeit important) position on the roster, and when there are mistakes made up one side of the offense and down the other side of the defense at all positions, it's pretty damn hard to win.

Who's to say that maybe one or more of those guys couldn't have stuck around and had a decent season if the rest of the O and D were halfway decent?  Not Brady Quinn of course, he sucks, but someone else?
 
2013-03-07 04:21:11 PM
Have the Pirates had many good pitchers lately? How bout the Cubs?

Shiatty team has poor record of success at most important position. Thank goodness someone wrote about it.

/oh man though, the Browns were awesome before TV! Several league championships! They beat the crap out of the the other four teams in the league every year.
 
2013-03-07 04:37:18 PM

rumpelstiltskin: At least the Bears had Sid Luckman once upon a time. The Chiefs have never in their 50 year history had a decent QB. Used Up Joe Montana is the best we've ever seen, and he was Used Up.


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2013-03-07 04:46:04 PM

Nadie_AZ: A sad state of affairs to a once great sports team.


It all comes down to management, management, and management, which is why the Steelers and the Ratbirds perennially fight for the division and the Browns and Bengals rarely do.

I'd like nothing more than to see the Browns annually field a great team. I want to hate them again rather than just pitying them for their ineptitude.
 
2013-03-07 04:52:20 PM
Cleveland sucks. The Browns sucks. The people in cleveland suck. Behind detroit, cleveland is target #2. Nuke it.
 
2013-03-07 05:15:28 PM

SploogeTime: Cleveland sucks. The Browns sucks. The people in cleveland suck. Behind detroit, cleveland is target #2. Nuke it.


Lol... i presume you're being ironic, you being from Marietta Georgia, the undisputed pit of the earth... Thanks for the chuckle.
 
2013-03-07 05:25:48 PM

jake_lex: It's always been a bit surprising to me that the Browns have been so god-awful since they came back into the league, particularly since the Ravens (i.e. the old Browns) have probably been one of the best franchises in the league over that same period.  I don't recall the Ravens ever having a really putrid season since 1999 -- they've missed the playoffs, sure, but I don't think they've ever had a 2 or 3 win shiatbomb of a season.


The Cleveland media is underrated in its brutality and impatience.  A city that's lived through playoff heartbreaks in all three of the major sports (The Drive, The Fumble, Red Right 88, The Shot, Jose Mesa), they're waaaay too hungry for a winner.  They were yelling at Bill Belechick for not producing a winner, for Pete's sake!  And coming this summer, they'll be unleashing their vitriol on a baseball manager who has won a championship. Just wait for the Tribe's first 5-game losing streak, and you'll see it.

/Especially from Bruce Drennan, who's all buddy-buddy with Francona right now in ST.
 
2013-03-07 05:44:45 PM
I am indifferent to the team, but have to admit they have the worst helmets in all of the NFL.  Nothing but a stripe down the middle and orange on both sides.  The team is the Browns and their helmets are orange.  (I know they're named after a person and not a color)
 
2013-03-07 05:45:40 PM

js34603: Have the Pirates had many good pitchers lately? How bout the Cubs?


I can't speak for the Pirates, but the Cubs thought they had one in Mark Prior. Unfortunately, he missed more starts than he actually started. But then again, drafting and development has never been a strong point of the Cubs.

/despite the change in regime and front office, it's still too early to say they've turned that part of the club around
//like how the lame-duck GM was allowed to move a lot of young talent for a pitcher who can't stay healthy
 
2013-03-07 05:47:13 PM
 
2013-03-07 06:03:23 PM

germ78: I can't speak for the Pirates, but the Cubs thought they had one in Mark Prior. Unfortunately, he missed more starts than he actually started. But then again, drafting and development has never been a strong point of the Cubs.


He's the reason why the Nationals shut down Strasburg last year.  I submit, however, that it's really no one's fault.  Is it the Blazers' fault Sam Bowie's knees gave out shortly after they drafted him?
 
2013-03-07 06:06:42 PM
In a slightly related note, I remember watching a game between the Ravens and Colts and sometime during the game the announcers mentioned they Colts were introduced as "the Indianapolis professional football team" and the scoreboard had them as Indy.
 
2013-03-07 06:13:47 PM

Raider_dad: In a slightly related note, I remember watching a game between the Ravens and Colts and sometime during the game the announcers mentioned they Colts were introduced as "the Indianapolis professional football team" and the scoreboard had them as Indy.


I'm guessing the game was in Baltimore.  Apparently, they still hold a grudge. Hypocrites.
 
2013-03-07 06:15:10 PM

rumpelstiltskin: At least the Bears had Sid Luckman once upon a time. The Chiefs have never in their 50 year history had a decent QB. Used Up Joe Montana is the best we've ever seen, and he was Used Up.


Until your line practically turned him into zombie, Trent Green had six very good seasons in KC. A couple 4000-yarders, playoff appearances, Pro Bowl appearances...hell, Football Nation (I don't know who that is but whatever) has him as the 41st best QB of the modern era:

http://www.footballnation.com/content/nfl-power-rankings-top-100-qbs -s ince-the-merger-60-41/15504/2/
 
2013-03-07 06:18:19 PM

Ethertap: As a cardinals fan, I'm totally not surprised by any of this. Outside of two seasons we've been stinking it up since I was born.


As a Rangers fan, F*CK YOU.
 
2013-03-07 06:53:28 PM

TheOther: Ethertap: As a cardinals fan, I'm totally not surprised by any of this. Outside of two seasons we've been stinking it up since I was born.

As a Rangers fan, F*CK YOU.


Oh, shut up. The Rangers at least won a title in your lifetime. This is Cleveland we're talking about here, not New York. God, you attention-whoring New Yorkers can't even let Clevelanders commiserate in their own futility without trying to get in on the act.

Great, now you've got a Pittsburgh fan defending Cleveland. Well, at least we all have one thing in common: we all hate New York. All of us.
 
2013-03-07 07:21:32 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples:  God, you attention-whoring New Yorkers [...] now you've got a Pittsburgh fan


And if any one city knows how to attention-whore itself all over every single discussion about sports...something something pot kettle.
 
2013-03-07 07:32:57 PM

buckeyebrain: rumpelstiltskin: At least the Bears had Sid Luckman once upon a time. The Chiefs have never in their 50 year history had a decent QB. Used Up Joe Montana is the best we've ever seen, and he was Used Up.

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Tim Tebow throws better than Len Dawson.
 
2013-03-07 07:35:49 PM

Scrotastic Method: rumpelstiltskin: At least the Bears had Sid Luckman once upon a time. The Chiefs have never in their 50 year history had a decent QB. Used Up Joe Montana is the best we've ever seen, and he was Used Up.

Until your line practically turned him into zombie, Trent Green had six very good seasons in KC. A couple 4000-yarders, playoff appearances, Pro Bowl appearances...hell, Football Nation (I don't know who that is but whatever) has him as the 41st best QB of the modern era:

http://www.footballnation.com/content/nfl-power-rankings-top-100-qbs -s ince-the-merger-60-41/15504/2/


The line was what made Trent Green look adequate. That was a Hall of Fame line.
 
2013-03-07 07:44:46 PM
they should change the name. it reminds everyone of sh*t subconsciously ruining the team. fact!
 
2013-03-08 01:07:12 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: TheOther: Ethertap: As a cardinals fan, I'm totally not surprised by any of this. Outside of two seasons we've been stinking it up since I was born.

As a Rangers fan, F*CK YOU.

Oh, shut up. The Rangers at least won a title in your lifetime. This is Cleveland we're talking about here, not New York. God, you attention-whoring New Yorkers can't even let Clevelanders commiserate in their own futility without trying to get in on the act.

Great, now you've got a Pittsburgh fan defending Cleveland. Well, at least we all have one thing in common: we all hate New York. All of us.


Texas Rangers, slaughtered by the Cards in the WS.  Not the NY Rangers.  Yeah, screw NY.
 
2013-03-08 01:09:45 AM
I understand all the Browns jokes, its been bad the last 10-15 years. To to say they have ALWAYS sucked because they haven't won a superb owl is a new form of stupid. Before the browns were uprooted, they had about a 25 win lead going head to head vs stoolers. Of course they have lost every game since then and shiatsburg not only caught up but took the lead, but I look at that as a gift to our retarded, toofless neighbors to the east. Now they feel superior for finally being able to beat up their more popular and handsomer big brother, but I have a feeling big brother is about to show who has been doing it better, longer.
 
2013-03-08 01:32:00 AM

TheOther: Adolf Oliver Nipples: TheOther: Ethertap: As a cardinals fan, I'm totally not surprised by any of this. Outside of two seasons we've been stinking it up since I was born.

As a Rangers fan, F*CK YOU.

Oh, shut up. The Rangers at least won a title in your lifetime. This is Cleveland we're talking about here, not New York. God, you attention-whoring New Yorkers can't even let Clevelanders commiserate in their own futility without trying to get in on the act.

Great, now you've got a Pittsburgh fan defending Cleveland. Well, at least we all have one thing in common: we all hate New York. All of us.

Texas Rangers, slaughtered by the Cards in the WS.  Not the NY Rangers.  Yeah, screw NY.


Well, don't I feel stupid.

No, not really. But sorry anyway.
 
2013-03-08 08:19:09 AM

Ebenator: That city is a dump.


Really? Baltimore regularly leads the nation in venereal disease, illiteracy and violent crime and you want to knock Cleveland as a city?  Try to keep it down when you're banging your sister, pal, the walls in that trailer are thinner than you think.
 
2013-03-08 10:48:58 AM
Not just the browns, it has infected all of the city...........

1. 1954. The Catch. The great Willie Mays runs down a 420 shot to center field in sensational fashion preserving a 2-2 tie. Giants go on to sweep the world series.

2. 1976. Jim Chones breaks his foot in practice, cavs sunk in playoffs

3. 1981. Red Right 88. Even though they were in field goal range (13 yard line) for a winning kick, sipe tosses an interception in the end zone, Browns loose 14-12. Raiders go on to win the Super Bowl.

4. 1987. The Drive. 98 yard drive by Elway tied the game with 37 seconds left. They go on to loose in overtime.

5. 1988. The Fumble.  Earnest Byner fumbles on the 3 yard line, Denver recovers and ends another great season. Byner traded to Washington the next year and wins a super bowl for them.

6. 1989. The Shot. Micheal Jordan's iconic shot at the buzzer in game 5. Craig Ehlo inconsolable.

7. 1994. Brad Daugherty career ended because of back problems at 26.

8. 1994. Cleveland Indians break out to the best record in baseball. The season ended with a strike.

9. 1995. Indians loose in World Series to Atlanta in 6 games.

10. 1996. Best record in baseball, loose to Baltimore in 4 games.

11. 1996. Browns and Art Modell leave Cleveland and move to Baltimore.

12. 1997. World Series, game 7. Indians have the lead in the bottom of the ninth with 2 outs when Jose Mesa(1.12 ERA 46 saves) falls apart on the mound and lets the Marlins tie the game. In the bottom of the 11th, 4 time gold glove winner and 5 time all-star Tony Fernadez muffs a sure double play. Edgar Rentería ended the game with a single.

13. 1999. Browns back in Cleveland. Draft Tim Couch 1st overall. Draft bust.

14. 2000. Browns draft Courney Brown 1st overall. Draft bust.

15. 2001. Browns draft Gerard Warren 3rd overall. Draft bust.

16. 2001. The Ravens and Art Modell win the Super Bowl for Baltimore.

17. 2002. Browns draft William Green 16th overall. Draft bust.

18. 2002. Browns finally make the playoffs and have a 22 point 4th quarter lead against rival Pittsburgh and loose.

19. 2003. Browns draft Jeff Faine 21st overall, does nothing for cleveland. Traded to saints where he becomes a probowl center.

20. 2004. Browns draft Kellen Winslow. 2 games into season he breaks his leg. Lost for year.

21. 2005. Kellen winslow blows his knee out in a motorcycle accident, lost for the year.

22. 2005. Browns draft Braylon Edwards 3rd overall. Blows knee out, lost for the year.

23. 2006. LeCharles Bentley, top rated free agent signs huge contract with Cleveland. During the first play of the first practice he tore his patellar tendon and ended his career.

24. 2007. Cavs get swept in Finals.

25. 2008-2009. Cleveland trades not one, but 2 Cy young winners(CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee) to New York and Philly. Both pitchers meet each other in that year's world series

26. 2009. Cavs  stopped by Orlando.

27. 2010. Best record in NBA. Lose to Celtics.

28.  Lebron signs with Miami.
 
2013-03-08 11:13:00 AM

ltdanman44: Not just the browns, it has infected all of the city...........

1. 1954. The Catch. The great Willie Mays runs down a 420 shot to center field in sensational fashion preserving a 2-2 tie. Giants go on to sweep the world series.

2. 1976. Jim Chones breaks his foot in practice, cavs sunk in playoffs

3. 1981. Red Right 88. Even though they were in field goal range (13 yard line) for a winning kick, sipe tosses an interception in the end zone, Browns loose 14-12. Raiders go on to win the Super Bowl.

4. 1987. The Drive. 98 yard drive by Elway tied the game with 37 seconds left. They go on to loose in overtime.

5. 1988. The Fumble.  Earnest Byner fumbles on the 3 yard line, Denver recovers and ends another great season. Byner traded to Washington the next year and wins a super bowl for them.

6. 1989. The Shot. Micheal Jordan's iconic shot at the buzzer in game 5. Craig Ehlo inconsolable.

7. 1994. Brad Daugherty career ended because of back problems at 26.

8. 1994. Cleveland Indians break out to the best record in baseball. The season ended with a strike.

9. 1995. Indians loose in World Series to Atlanta in 6 games.

10. 1996. Best record in baseball, loose to Baltimore in 4 games.

11. 1996. Browns and Art Modell leave Cleveland and move to Baltimore.

12. 1997. World Series, game 7. Indians have the lead in the bottom of the ninth with 2 outs when Jose Mesa(1.12 ERA 46 saves) falls apart on the mound and lets the Marlins tie the game. In the bottom of the 11th, 4 time gold glove winner and 5 time all-star Tony Fernadez muffs a sure double play. Edgar Rentería ended the game with a single.

13. 1999. Browns back in Cleveland. Draft Tim Couch 1st overall. Draft bust.

14. 2000. Browns draft Courney Brown 1st overall. Draft bust.

15. 2001. Browns draft Gerard Warren 3rd overall. Draft bust.

16. 2001. The Ravens and Art Modell win the Super Bowl for Baltimore.

17. 2002. Browns draft William Green 16th overall. Draft bust.

18. 2002. Browns finally make the playoffs and have a 22 point 4th quarter lead against rival Pittsburgh and loose.

19. 2003. Browns draft Jeff Faine 21st overall, does nothing for cleveland. Traded to saints where he becomes a probowl center.

20. 2004. Browns draft Kellen Winslow. 2 games into season he breaks his leg. Lost for year.

21. 2005. Kellen winslow blows his knee out in a motorcycle accident, lost for the year.

22. 2005. Browns draft Braylon Edwards 3rd overall. Blows knee out, lost for the year.

23. 2006. LeCharles Bentley, top rated free agent signs huge contract with Cleveland. During the first play of the first practice he tore his patellar tendon and ended his career.

24. 2007. Cavs get swept in Finals.

25. 2008-2009. Cleveland trades not one, but 2 Cy young winners(CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee) to New York and Philly. Both pitchers meet each other in that year's world series

26. 2009. Cavs  stopped by Orlando.

27. 2010. Best record in NBA. Lose to Celtics.

28.  Lebron signs with Miami.


Been trying to suppress those memories...thanks for bringing them all back at one time! My head is going to explode.

You didn't mention the indoor soccer championships we won though. Meh
 
2013-03-08 12:55:30 PM
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vdawg: Been trying to suppress those memories...thanks for bringing them all back at one time! My head is going to explode.

You didn't mention the indoor soccer championships we won though. Meh


Don't forget the WNBA Championship!

I was alive for #2 onward on the list, though #12 was probably the most painful as they were SO close, and it didn't help that i was living in Miami at the time and had to witness the celebration in streets.
 
2013-03-08 05:49:26 PM

ltdanman44: 13. 1999. Browns back in Cleveland. Draft Tim Couch 1st overall. Draft bust.


Couch was great in college and probably would have been good in the pros if he wasn't on the Browns... also know as the "what would have happened to David Carr if he was on a decent team" theory.
 
2013-03-08 07:54:52 PM

ltdanman44: 8. 1994. Cleveland Indians break out to the best record in baseball. The season ended with a strike.


Actually, the Indians were in line for a wild card when the strike started.
 
2013-03-11 02:36:35 PM
All things considered... That list is a little unfair...  If you're going to cite things like Orlando beating the Cavs in a non championship game, then you must give equal value to the Cavs beating other teamsin non championship games...

Cleveland teams have done plenty of good things, minus winning a ring...Not saying its something to brag about, but it at least cancels out the bad things in which a ring was not in the mix, either.
 
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