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(Mega 949)   To honor the passing of Hugo Chavez, Citgo lowers flags to half-mast. The U.S. flag. Some people have a problem with this   (mega949.com ) divider line
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2013-03-07 11:27:11 AM  
A caller named 'Doc' told Patrick, "I called their facilities manager and led a march of about 800 patriots from one of my Facebook pages."

800 patriots. Led on a "march". From one of his Facebook pages.

That sounds like a "whoever wins, we lose" type of situation.

But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.
 
2013-03-07 11:36:13 AM  

tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.
 
2013-03-07 11:38:42 AM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


That is correct, although I do disagree with them lowering the US flag in this instance.  I think they should have just lowered the Venezuelan flag and left it at that.

Then again, Freedom of Speech.  They have every right to do it.
 
2013-03-07 11:39:10 AM  
But if you lower the American flag that much, a tall Venezuelan can reach up and grab it!
 
2013-03-07 11:42:12 AM  
Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.
 
2013-03-07 11:47:19 AM  
At least they aren't burning it.

Let's look at the positive.
 
2013-03-07 11:59:12 AM  
Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.
 
2013-03-07 12:02:10 PM  

basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.


That's not enough. I must lead a march on facebook. Companies only listen if you have at least 800 others virtually marching with you.
 
2013-03-07 12:02:16 PM  
 Let them lower the flag.
 I have not bought gas from a citgo in forever.
 When they get control of their own country again. Then I will
send them my business.
 
2013-03-07 12:17:36 PM  
Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.
 
2013-03-07 12:21:42 PM  

jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.


That's just un American!
 
2013-03-07 12:28:56 PM  

nekom: Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


Christ almighty. Did I say something about law or punishment? No. I said (by not following the etiquette) they are shiat heads.
 
2013-03-07 12:41:02 PM  

chiett: Let them lower the flag.
 I have not bought gas from a citgo in forever.
 When they get control of their own country again. Then I will
send them my business.




Wait, Citgo owned Venezuela? Perhaps this line of thinking made Chavez so popular among his people!

/United States damn ignorant of their crimes against South America.
 
2013-03-07 12:55:25 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Wait, Citgo owned Venezuela?


No, other way around
 
2013-03-07 12:57:09 PM  
maximumtrolling.jpg
 
2013-03-07 12:57:38 PM  
Half staff subby.  Half mast only applies when it's on a ship.
 
2013-03-07 12:58:00 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: A caller named 'Doc' told Patrick, "I called their facilities manager and led a march of about 800 patriots from one of my Facebook pages."

800 patriots. Led on a "march". From one of his Facebook pages.

That sounds like a "whoever wins, we lose" type of situation.

But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


Some how I doubt that the "march" ever happened.
 
2013-03-07 12:58:22 PM  
 
2013-03-07 12:58:33 PM  
Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.
 
2013-03-07 12:59:05 PM  
Popcorn thread.
 
2013-03-07 12:59:09 PM  
And by leading a "march", he means sharing a poorly photoshopped photo with some random "because Obama is a..." writing on it to all 50 or so of his friends.
 
2013-03-07 01:00:32 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran
 
2013-03-07 01:01:09 PM  
I'd post a picture of a momunent to Hugo...but I'd probably get banned. The guy was a steaming pile of dog crap, whose passing was a good thing. Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.
 
2013-03-07 01:01:18 PM  
I believe proper etiquette for a modern America requires that, just below the American flag, one flies a banner reading "Ding dong the Socialist Dictator Who Doesn't Play Nice With the West is dead!"

But that might make some people think Biden is president, so maybe not.
 
2013-03-07 01:02:28 PM  

indarwinsshadow: I'd post a picture of a momunent to Hugo...but I'd probably get banned. The guy was a steaming pile of dog crap, whose passing was a good thing. Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.


The only thing about that is someone who's even crazier may take over.
 
2013-03-07 01:04:08 PM  
We kind of played and farked up our moral high-ground in Latin America card about fifteen CIA operations and coups ago.
 
2013-03-07 01:04:21 PM  
They should have just lowered the Venezuelan flag to avoid all of this crap.

I don't really have a problem with it, but lowering flags to half-mast is so steeped in tradition that I can understand people seeing this as a big FU.

basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.


THIS.
 
2013-03-07 01:05:11 PM  

joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.


I remember the time when my boss was getting British visitors, and he thought he would honor them by hoisting up the Union Jack. But he only had one flagpole. So he put both the American flag and the Union Jack flag on the same pole, with the American being on top. The American flag was also a little bit larger.

Good times.
 
2013-03-07 01:05:37 PM  

NeoCortex42: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

That is correct, although I do disagree with them lowering the US flag in this instance.  I think they should have just lowered the Venezuelan flag and left it at that.

Then again, Freedom of Speech.  They have every right to do it.


Pretty much.  Dick move by Citgo, do the libertarian thing and try a boycott and see if that gets anywhere.

Or just roll your eyes and move on, like me.
 
2013-03-07 01:06:39 PM  

joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.


I didn't know that, but it makes sense.
 
2013-03-07 01:06:40 PM  
Flying the flag upside down because Obama is in the White House is cool though.
 
2013-03-07 01:08:08 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: tallguywithglasseson: A caller named 'Doc' told Patrick, "I called their facilities manager and led a march of about 800 patriots from one of my Facebook pages."

800 patriots. Led on a "march". From one of his Facebook pages.

That sounds like a "whoever wins, we lose" type of situation.

But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Some how I doubt that the "march" ever happened.




Yeah, 800 people marching on a location would be huge news. The guy who posted that is probably counting all of his personalities separately.
 
2013-03-07 01:08:11 PM  

nekom: Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


rlv.zcache.com

And furthermore, because 'Texath.
 
2013-03-07 01:08:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: indarwinsshadow: I'd post a picture of a momunent to Hugo...but I'd probably get banned. The guy was a steaming pile of dog crap, whose passing was a good thing. Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.

The only thing about that is someone who's even crazier may take over.


I know. It's taken me years to realize that it (the world as is) never really gets any better. There's lulls in the killing and monsters that make up this time we live in, but it's never going to end. One dictator dies, another pops up to take their place. Mobius...
 
2013-03-07 01:09:55 PM  
They should lower their gas prices, too.
 
2013-03-07 01:11:14 PM  
Dictators tend to suspend elections.
 
2013-03-07 01:11:22 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.


I'm curious why that one farker who was sucking Hugo Chavez' dead dick in the first thread after his death hasn't made any other appearances.
 
2013-03-07 01:11:30 PM  

indarwinsshadow: scottydoesntknow: indarwinsshadow: I'd post a picture of a momunent to Hugo...but I'd probably get banned. The guy was a steaming pile of dog crap, whose passing was a good thing. Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.

The only thing about that is someone who's even crazier may take over.

I know. It's taken me years to realize that it (the world as is) never really gets any better. There's lulls in the killing and monsters that make up this time we live in, but it's never going to end. One dictator dies, another pops up to take their place. Mobius...


Yep, there's always going to be crazier folks, some just haven't been given the opportunity to show it.
 
2013-03-07 01:11:36 PM  
BP should ramp the story up to 11
 
2013-03-07 01:11:57 PM  

finnished: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

I remember the time when my boss was getting British visitors, and he thought he would honor them by hoisting up the Union Jack. But he only had one flagpole. So he put both the American flag and the Union Jack flag on the same pole, with the American being on top. The American flag was also a little bit larger.

Good times.


He should have used an even smaller Union Jack, maybe a quarter of the size and flow them both from the top of the pole.

/technically that would be the BEIC flag and wasn't allowed to be flown in the North Atlantic, and it only had 9 stripes not 13, but close enough
 
2013-03-07 01:12:03 PM  

gravy chugging cretin.: Flying the flag upside down because Obama is in the White House is cool though.


www.onlineschools.org
 
2013-03-07 01:12:45 PM  
Gasoline and Old Glory.
What a great all time combination.
 
2013-03-07 01:13:05 PM  
Its like Whitney Houston died all over again.
 
2013-03-07 01:13:50 PM  
As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.
 
2013-03-07 01:13:56 PM  

signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez


The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303
 
2013-03-07 01:14:11 PM  

gunga galunga: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.

I'm curious why that one farker who was sucking Hugo Chavez' dead dick in the first thread after his death hasn't made any other appearances.


He had to leave before the body got too cold
 
2013-03-07 01:14:16 PM  

oh_please: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

I didn't know that, but it makes sense.


Here we go  http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm


§7 (g)  When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

Then again, True Patriots™ think we're at war with every non-US country...
 
2013-03-07 01:14:35 PM  

farkfocker: They should lower their gas prices, too.


Around here, they're as low or lower than any of the competing stations in their immediate area.
 
2013-03-07 01:17:55 PM  
I have a problem with people who have problems with flags.
 
2013-03-07 01:18:14 PM  
They didn't lower the flag to half mast, they just doubled the size of the mast and left the flag where it was.
Problem solved.
 
2013-03-07 01:20:11 PM  
Bored white people problems.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:00 PM  
"CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company "

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-03-07 01:21:04 PM  

stonicus: They didn't lower the flag to half mast, they just doubled the size of the mast and left the flag where it was.
Problem solved.


thedailyentertainment.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-07 01:21:15 PM  
Honestly this just emblifies what is good about our country.  We allow this kind of stuff.  Makes me happy to see, because it's a large part of why we do so well.  We don't care who you are or where you're from (for the most part), if you can make money, come and do it here.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:29 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I have a problem with people who have problems with flags.


Same here. I just don't get all this worship over a piece of cloth.

Having said that, Citgo should have known better.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:55 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I have a problem with people who have problems with flags.


i26.photobucket.com
approves
 
2013-03-07 01:22:07 PM  
Exemplifies I mean......derp.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:21 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


not...uh... not the point, dude. Not the point.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:33 PM  

indarwinsshadow: I'd post a picture of a momunent to Hugo...but I'd probably get banned. The guy was a steaming pile of dog crap, whose passing was a good thing. Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.


With 6 billion on the planet I don't see how replacements will be a problem.

Oh, that's right, Roman Empire part II. Cool, I know that history quite well.
 
2013-03-07 01:23:24 PM  

joeflood: oh_please: joeflood:
Here we go  http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm


I thought there was also a rule to the order of the flags if there are more than one nation's flags flown. Something like American flag is always on the first pole (first from what, though?) or something. Or am I remembering wrong?
 
2013-03-07 01:23:47 PM  
Not liking Hugo Chavez is ok.  Being a right-winger is disturbing but possibly well-intended.  Equating, somehow, on a moral scale HC's rule with the brutal and genocidal and cleptocratic right-wing genuine dictators that the US has helped install in Latin America time and again is fantastic, ignorant and disingenuous.

The sad conclusion, if the NSDAP hasn't already driven the point home, is that propaganda works.
 
2013-03-07 01:23:50 PM  
Fark Venezuela.  Fark Chavez.  Fark Citgo. Fark everybody.

I need a nap.
 
2013-03-07 01:24:57 PM  
Well actually yes, there is a law for flag etiquette.  How the fark did any of you miss that?
 
2013-03-07 01:25:10 PM  

Necronic: Honestly this just emblifies what is good about our country.  We allow this kind of stuff.  Makes me happy to see, because it's a large part of why we do so well.  We don't care who you are or where you're from (for the most part), if you can make money, come and do it here.


yah so we can take it and give it too someone else who isn't good at making money

/Sorry, Hugo claimed to be a socialist, so it seem fitting I post that in his memory
 
2013-03-07 01:25:30 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-07 01:27:24 PM  
You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

www.kcconfidential.com
 
2013-03-07 01:27:35 PM  

chiett: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303



'Facts' this is 'Opinion hit piece'.  I believe you two have met before.
 
2013-03-07 01:28:49 PM  

gunga galunga: I'm curious why that one farker who was sucking Hugo Chavez' dead dick in the first thread after his death hasn't made any other appearances.


There was?  I only recall a few right wing troll accounts claiming that everyone on the "left" loved Chavez.
 
2013-03-07 01:30:51 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


Respect and protocol. Respect for your country, your host state and the country of origin of the deceased. Protocol says only the US President can ask that you lower the US flag for a foreign dignitary. So, by lowering all three flags Citgo is breaching protocol and showing disrespect to the US, to Texas, and to Venezuela.

Should it be a raging, depfest, by "patriots"? Fark no, but it is an annoyance that nobody seems to understand formal protocol and respect anymore.
 
2013-03-07 01:32:51 PM  
No Citgo stations around here anyway, but I get 10 cents off Cumberland Farms, already pretty much the cheapest around (who buys from Gulf), so I do that.
 
2013-03-07 01:33:29 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

Respect and protocol. Respect for your country, your host state and the country of origin of the deceased. Protocol says only the US President can ask that you lower the US flag for a foreign dignitary. So, by lowering all three flags Citgo is breaching protocol and showing disrespect to the US, to Texas, and to Venezuela.

Should it be a raging, depfest, by "patriots"? Fark no, but it is an annoyance that nobody seems to understand formal protocol and respect anymore.


It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA!
 
2013-03-07 01:35:45 PM  

jake_lex: Yeah, 800 people marching on a location would be huge news. The guy who posted that is probably counting all of his personalities separately.


I'm assuming he meant "internet march" for his internet army, which likely means 4 or 5 idiots  he's fb friends with posting on Citgo's fb page.
 
2013-03-07 01:36:53 PM  

gravy chugging cretin.: Flying the flag upside down because Obama is in the White House is cool though.


It was cool when Bush was in office too. Some things are just timeless ya know?

/you need a tissue?
 
2013-03-07 01:37:19 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

Respect and protocol. Respect for your country, your host state and the country of origin of the deceased. Protocol says only the US President can ask that you lower the US flag for a foreign dignitary. So, by lowering all three flags Citgo is breaching protocol and showing disrespect to the US, to Texas, and to Venezuela.

Should it be a raging, depfest, by "patriots"? Fark no, but it is an annoyance that nobody seems to understand formal protocol and respect anymore.


Respect is for weak minded people.
 
2013-03-07 01:38:09 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.


Good thing Chavez didn't abort himself with a high-powered semi-automatic, amirate?
 
2013-03-07 01:39:39 PM  
I noticed that all the Americans that thought Chavez was a great leader moved to Venezuela to be part of the equalizing movement he created.
  I'm also sure the Billion dollars he amassed was only money he has protecting for the people.
 Please instead blame the USA for our past sins in South America instead of looking at the CURRENT news.
 
2013-03-07 01:41:04 PM  

DaWormyPimpsta: As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.


Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.
 
2013-03-07 01:41:27 PM  
i'd be offended, but companies never do anything wrong, and the 1st Amendment says they can do it. I'm far more offended by people wearing the flag as clothing, frankly.
 
2013-03-07 01:42:59 PM  
"It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.
 
2013-03-07 01:44:48 PM  

chiett: I noticed that all the Americans that thought Chavez was a great leader moved to Venezuela to be part of the equalizing movement he created.
  I'm also sure the Billion dollars he amassed was only money he has protecting for the people.
 Please instead blame the USA for our past sins in South America instead of looking at the CURRENT news.


I think the bigger CURRENT news is that we spend 800x that amount for tanks, war ships, bombs, guns, and planes that will never fly to fight Achmed with a couple underwear bombs and pipe bombs.  Let me know how that's working for us.

Was Chavez a good guy? Some say yes, some say no, but certainly no worse than the guy that destabilized our economy to go re-right daddy's war in the great farking sandbox of the Middle East while amassing HUNE profits at companies like Haliburton, Lockheed, Boeing, and Blackwater.  Ah, so soon we forget.
 
2013-03-07 01:45:30 PM  
  "I gave them a call, and the operator told me that it was in observance and respect of the death of Hugo Chavez," Teddy told Matt Patrick on his afternoon show

Teddy wasn't satisfied with the company's explanation.


Who the fark is Teddy?  Is this like the Prince or the Madonna of Houston?
 
2013-03-07 01:45:46 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran


Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.  But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?  That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran
 
2013-03-07 01:46:14 PM  
I love how everyone focuses on Correa/Morales/Lula/Kirchner as the next champions of the left in Latin America, but no has said shiat about Mujica, whom I think he's not only the next latin american champion of the left, but also an example of humility while being a high-ranking politician.
 
2013-03-07 01:46:25 PM  
chavez - a great guy who beat & tortured his own people, amassed over 2 billion dollars, and bought citgo gas. Wow.
Glad he's dead. Wished he had died sooner.
 
2013-03-07 01:46:25 PM  

ManicMechanic: "It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.


i3.kym-cdn.com

MERICA!

galeri7.uludagsozluk.com
 
2013-03-07 01:46:34 PM  
I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:28 PM  
Some people are easily offended douchebags.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:36 PM  
I bet the same people who are mad at this are the same ones who think companies are people
 
2013-03-07 01:47:59 PM  

SploogeTime: chavez - a great guy who beat & tortured his own people, amassed over 2 billion dollars, and bought citgo gas. Wow.
Glad he's dead. Wished he had died sooner.


Is that you Teddy?
 
2013-03-07 01:48:50 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: i'd be offended, but companies never do anything wrong, and the 1st Amendment says they can do it. I'm far more offended by people wearing the flag as clothing, frankly.


sarahpalininformation.files.wordpress.com

The bigger the flag the greater the love for the USA baby
 
2013-03-07 01:49:45 PM  
If I recall, Citgo lowered the flag to half-staff when Hitler died, too. That's right, HITLER.

/Also, HITLER.
 
2013-03-07 01:50:04 PM  

special20: Some Most people are easily offended douchebags.


To judge from newspapers, TV, Twitter, Facebook and here.
 
2013-03-07 01:50:55 PM  
Lake Charles has a giant CITGO refinery - the original from the early 1900s, IIRC. They sure got the local rednecks all riled up yesterday, not that it takes much around here.

/ said rednecks sure don't mind working there though
// doubt any of them bothered reading up on CITGOs history
 
2013-03-07 01:51:44 PM  
Now that Hugo is Tango Uniform, can I buy Citgo gas? I don't mind helping out the Venezuelan people if he's not benefiting anymore.
 
2013-03-07 01:52:13 PM  
Well, Citgo  is owned by Venezuela. They have a right to lower their flags as much as American companies have a right to lower their flags should their owner or President die. Any private citizen or corporation can lower its flags as a sign of respect to a departed former employee or notable. Happens all the time here in Ottawa. The Government lowers its flags for the death of Privy Council Clerks and other people who retired decades ago and are barely remembered in the public service let alone the Great Wide World. My usual response is to wonder who died. There's a slight chance I'll know if it was news.

I find many Americans get their knickers in a knot over flag etiquette too often. Much of this etiquette was originally informal and not official, then it applied only to government flags (I believe legislation has been passed extending some of it, but it is still a mixture of invention, custom and law).

American flags fly over every country on Earth (probably even North Korea when there is a formal state visit). Why fuss and feud over other people's flags? Sure, the US was insecure in the early days after the Revolution when they thought the British wanted to re-invade (rightly or wrongly, at least a little rightly) but there really is no sound reason in international law to object to the flying of foreign flags by private citizens to show their national pride, nor is there much reason to object to corporate bodies or countries which fly their flag according to the rules, such as over their own property, cars, or embassies or what not.

If you are flying flags out of national pride or for the tourist trade, it is good manners and good sense to fly the American flag and possibly some state or provincial flags as well to show you are making no territorial claims, however absurd that might be. I've seen the Welsh flag flying over Canadian residences, but am pretty sure we are under no threat of Welsh invasions unless they come up with the next Beatles, which seems unlikely since the Welsh can sing and play musical instruments.

Hey, stay calm and hang out more flags. Some of them are quite ornamental, and it's educational to fly as many of them as possible. I live in a national capital and I'm a little embarrassed and ashamed when I see a national flag I don't recognize. I should know them all. THEM ALL. Even Bhutan.
 
2013-03-07 01:52:31 PM  
The people in Columbus, Ohio took to the streets this morning singing Ding Dong the Dick is Dead - Which ol' Dick?  The Hugo Dick.


/Fark Sean Penn
 
2013-03-07 01:53:27 PM  

hockeychick: Half staff subby.  Half mast only applies when it's on a ship.


Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Haaaaa!
 
2013-03-07 01:53:30 PM  

basemetal: jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.



And also look at all the good Hitler did.


Human rights activists slam U.N. tribute to Chavez

UN Watch led the campaign against Venezuela's election to the UNHRC, brought Chavez victims to testify in the council, and organized the draft UN resolution condemning his abuses


Hugo Chávez Versus Human Rights

"the President and his legislative supporters have strengthened the state's capacity to limit free speech and created powerful incentives for self-censorship. They have, for example, expanded laws making "contempt" for government officials a criminal offense, increased prison sentences for criminal defamation, and abused the state's control of broadcasting frequencies to intimidate and discriminate against stations with overtly critical programming. While there are independent labor unions, the government has systematically violated workers' rights and fostered pro-government unions. There are dedicated human rights advocates. But they have been subjected to a virulent barrage of verbal assaults and even harassment by prosecutors."


Venezuela: Concentration and Abuse of Power Under Chávez

"For years, President Chávez and his followers have been building a system in which the government has free rein to threaten and punish Venezuelans who interfere with their political agenda," said José Miguel Vivanco, Americas director at Human Rights Watch. "Today that system is firmly entrenched, and the risks for judges, journalists, and rights defenders are greater than they've ever been under Chávez."
 
2013-03-07 01:53:52 PM  
Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunsetThe flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.The image of the flag may not be printed, embroidered or otherwise impressed on anything designed for temporary use and discard. This includes napkins, paper plates and cups, packaging or stampsNo part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform; flag patches are allowed as part of the uniform of a federal, state, civic or patriotic Many traditions here highly honored by car dealerships and country music stars nationwide.
 
2013-03-07 01:55:24 PM  

Necronic: Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunsetThe flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.The image of the flag may not be printed, embroidered or otherwise impressed on anything designed for temporary use and discard. This includes napkins, paper plates and cups, packaging or stampsNo part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform; flag patches are allowed as part of the uniform of a federal, state, civic or patriotic Many traditions here highly honored by car dealerships and country music stars nationwide.


It can be displayed at night if illuminated.
 
2013-03-07 01:58:02 PM  

There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.  But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?  That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran


It seems Presidential authorization is not explicitly required.

"In the event of the death of other officials, former officials, or foreign dignitaries, the flag of the United States shall be displayed at half-staff in accordance with such orders or instructions as may be issued by or at the direction of the President, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law."

Seems open to interpretation.
 
2013-03-07 01:58:26 PM  

Necronic: I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.


And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
i26.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-07 01:58:53 PM  
I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?
 
2013-03-07 01:59:57 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


Flag rules have gone to hell every since people started flying that hideous POW/MIA flag everywhere.
 
2013-03-07 02:02:17 PM  

basemetal: DaWormyPimpsta: As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.


www.wearysloth.com
Got a Knock-Knock joke for you...
 
2013-03-07 02:02:27 PM  

jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.


My lazy ass hasn't read through all the comments. I'm sure this has been said, but that gesture by Chavez is the same as the neighborhood mafia setting off nice fireworks for everyone every year, or helping the old lady out who can't pay her rent. Its done soley to buy influence and make it look as if he's a great guy..

Don't fall for it..it costs him next to nothing, and yet buys him good will in his perceived enemies domain.
 
2013-03-07 02:03:36 PM  

Onkel Buck: Necronic: I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.

And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
[i26.photobucket.com image 313x430]


Liberals don't claim to give a shiat about the flag code. Republicans are the ones who claim the flag is sacred, and any disrespect to it makes you a traitor commie libtard.
 
2013-03-07 02:04:37 PM  

publikenemy: jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.

My lazy ass hasn't read through all the comments. I'm sure this has been said, but that gesture by Chavez is the same as the neighborhood mafia setting off nice fireworks for everyone every year, or helping the old lady out who can't pay her rent. Its done soley to buy influence and make it look as if he's a great guy..

Don't fall for it..it costs him next to nothing, and yet buys him good will in his perceived enemies domain.


Pretending to give a shiat about poor people, in a manner that helps you while helping them, is better than openly not giving a flying fark.
 
2013-03-07 02:04:55 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.


Do you suppose that proper grammar, punctuation  and sentence structure might be more effective and easily achievable starting points?

Probably not.
 
2013-03-07 02:05:05 PM  

Onkel Buck: Necronic: I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.

And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
[i26.photobucket.com image 313x430]


Wait, so you have to go back to the 60s to get a picture of a liberal wrapping himself in the American flag?
 
2013-03-07 02:06:06 PM  

LordJiro: publikenemy: jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.

My lazy ass hasn't read through all the comments. I'm sure this has been said, but that gesture by Chavez is the same as the neighborhood mafia setting off nice fireworks for everyone every year, or helping the old lady out who can't pay her rent. Its done soley to buy influence and make it look as if he's a great guy..

Don't fall for it..it costs him next to nothing, and yet buys him good will in his perceived enemies domain.

Pretending to give a shiat about poor people, in a manner that helps you while helping them, is better than openly not giving a flying fark.



It's also the America Way (tm)
 
2013-03-07 02:06:42 PM  

lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?


Because, as was stated earlier if you'd bothered to read, one international flag shouldn't be flown higher than a different one. The headquarters flies a Venezuelan flag as they are a Venezuelan company, so when they dropped that flag to half mast for the death of their leader, they dropped the American flag as well so they were at equal heights.

Non-story.
 
2013-03-07 02:07:25 PM  

Necronic: Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunsetThe flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.
blog.mlive.com


The image of the flag may not be printed, embroidered or otherwise impressed on anything designed for temporary use and discard. This includes napkins, paper plates and cups, packaging or stampsNo part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform; flag patches are allowed as part of the uniform of a federal, state, civic or patriotic Many traditions here highly honored by car dealerships and country music stars nationwide.


i275.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-07 02:08:33 PM  

signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez


From your link:
*infant mortality dropped from 25 per 1000 (1990) to only 13/1000 (2010);

From the CIA world factbook:
20.18 deaths/1000 live births

13 v. 20 is not a small error. Makes me wonder about the accuracy of the other statistics in your link.
 
2013-03-07 02:09:05 PM  
Let's go put that flag back up! Who's with me?

content.internetvideoarchive.com
 
2013-03-07 02:10:20 PM  

BafflerMeal:
It's also the America Way (tm)



No argument here. Doesn't make it right though
 
2013-03-07 02:11:36 PM  

publikenemy: BafflerMeal:
It's also the America Way (tm)


No argument here. Doesn't make it right though



Oh I agree.  Just too snarky w/o coffee.
 
2013-03-07 02:11:39 PM  

NeoCortex42: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

That is correct, although I do disagree with them lowering the US flag in this instance.  I think they should have just lowered the Venezuelan flag and left it at that.

Then again, Freedom of Speech.  They have every right to do it.


End of thread.

/No, conservatives, liberals (in general) don't give a flying fark about Chavez.
 
2013-03-07 02:13:46 PM  
Oh jeez. This is silly. Nobody was harmed. No wars were started. So who gives a shiat?

Honestly, I think people who are politically-motivated spend their lives looking for ways to jam their thumb up their opponents' asses while likewise being exceptionally sensitive and interpreting everything as a thumb-jab.
 
2013-03-07 02:14:06 PM  
seadoo2006:

Do you drink the Kool-aid by the gallon or the truck load?
 
2013-03-07 02:14:23 PM  

VTGremlin: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because, as was stated earlier if you'd bothered to read, one international flag shouldn't be flown higher than a different one. The headquarters flies a Venezuelan flag as they are a Venezuelan company, so when they dropped that flag to half mast for the death of their leader, they dropped the American flag as well so they were at equal heights.

Non-story.


Why are you even bothering? This explanation will be ignore again just so the mouth breathers here will have something to rant about.
 
2013-03-07 02:16:56 PM  

basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.


If only more people understood that. Instead, they gotta be all "troll-y" about it.
 
2013-03-07 02:17:29 PM  
Butt Buddies.


blogs.miaminewtimes.comwww.blackmediascoop.com
 
2013-03-07 02:19:15 PM  

lostcat: Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?


Because Citgo is a Venezuelan company?
 
2013-03-07 02:19:16 PM  
Normally I'd point out that only the President or a Governor can make that call.  But, in this case I think an oil company has sufficient grounds to pull rank over either of those two...
 
2013-03-07 02:19:28 PM  

ChipNASA: Butt Buddies.


[blogs.miaminewtimes.com image 250x190][www.blackmediascoop.com image 544x305]


tamac.up.seesaa.net
www.demstore.com
 
2013-03-07 02:19:31 PM  

gunga galunga: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.

I'm curious why that one farker who was sucking Hugo Chavez' dead dick in the first thread after his death hasn't made any other appearances.


I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. But thanks for the quote. It always warms the cockles of my heart to be quoted.
 
2013-03-07 02:19:52 PM  

ChipNASA: Butt Buddies.


You can you tell when you're done?
 
2013-03-07 02:21:00 PM  

Ned Stark: ChipNASA: Butt Buddies.

You can you tell when you're done?


OMFG


djriskone.com

/wish I'd have thought of that.
 
2013-03-07 02:21:46 PM  

Ned Stark: ChipNASA: Butt Buddies.

You can you tell when you're done?


New name for the list......

"Dinglebama".....
 
2013-03-07 02:22:22 PM  

basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.


Are you consistent in your application of the "meh" doctrine? Did you feel the same way about Chick-fil-A?
 
2013-03-07 02:22:52 PM  
Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
www.homocreativus.es
 
2013-03-07 02:23:08 PM  
I like this, now i know where to never go.
 
2013-03-07 02:24:31 PM  
Example of people angry at Ctigo flying the flag at half mast because they are ignoring the flag code.

www3.pictures.zimbio.com
www.teaparty911.com
northernwestchester.lohudblogs.com
 
2013-03-07 02:25:29 PM  

VTGremlin: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because, as was stated earlier if you'd bothered to read, one international flag shouldn't be flown higher than a different one. The headquarters flies a Venezuelan flag as they are a Venezuelan company, so when they dropped that flag to half mast for the death of their leader, they dropped the American flag as well so they were at equal heights.

Non-story.


Can we start a side-thread about whether or not that convention should change?  I think it cheapens the gesture of Venezuela's flag being half mast if the US flag, which is theoretically at full mast, is flying at the same height as it.  Half is half.

I say the international convention should revolve around the height of the poles, and each flag can then follow its own conventions relative to space defined by its pole.
 
2013-03-07 02:26:53 PM  
meh outrage is meh
 
2013-03-07 02:30:17 PM  
morristrust.com

Just out of interest, where are all the "life is sacred" crowd?  Not celebrating death, surely?
 
2013-03-07 02:30:29 PM  
Might as well cut all flag poles in half anymore . The flag is flying at half mast more often than not.
 
2013-03-07 02:30:43 PM  
makethemaccountable.com
 
2013-03-07 02:30:49 PM  
Half Mast or Half Staff??

silencedmajority.blogs.com
 
2013-03-07 02:33:12 PM  

clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]


So did Rumsfield back in 2006
www.gwu.edu

Reagan in 1998
cdn.historycommons.org

and Nixon in 1976
upload.wikimedia.org

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)
 
2013-03-07 02:34:53 PM  

serial_crusher: I say the international convention should revolve around the height of the poles, and each flag can then follow its own conventions relative to space defined by its pole.


We don't need to get the UN involved with deciding who can put up the longest pole.
 
2013-03-07 02:35:19 PM  

Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]

and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)


BUT MOMMY BILLY DID IT TOO!
 
2013-03-07 02:35:34 PM  

Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]

and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)


The only way to win is not to play.
 
2013-03-07 02:35:59 PM  

monoski: The bigger the flag the greater the love for the USA baby


Also the bigger your HOOAH pin, the bigger a hooah you are.

www4.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2013-03-07 02:36:29 PM  

weltallica: [morristrust.com image 311x400]

Just out of interest, where are all the "life is sacred" crowd?  Not celebrating death, surely?


"Here's the thing about the sanctity of life. WE MAKE THE WHOLE GOD DAMN THING UP!!!"
 - George Carlin
 
2013-03-07 02:38:21 PM  

Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]

and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)


Geez, all those guys were doing was shaking hands. It's not like they were sucking face and holding hands in some kind of bizarre homoerotic display. That would be gross.

www.pensacolafishingforum.com
 
2013-03-07 02:39:57 PM  

seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]


thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.
 
2013-03-07 02:42:04 PM  

Necronic: Honestly this just emblifies what is good about our country.  We allow this kind of stuff.  Makes me happy to see, because it's a large part of why we do so well.  We don't care who you are or where you're from (for the most part), if you can make money, come and do it here.


I had to think about that for a bit, but I agree. Now, on a social level, I really wish we could we could talk honestly about things that impact us on a financial basis without inflammatory sound bites that are just designed to get views and people yelling, "herp derp DEMS" and herp derp CONS".

This "for us or against us" mentality has to end soon. Sadly, I don't see it happening. These assholes in Congress have built their little kingdoms, and they live on conflict, divide and conquer. They say what their constituents want to hear, rather than addressing actual problems, so they can build a war chest for the next election. They're not working for us, they're working for themselves.

I realize that this is how it's always been, but the politicians are so transparent about it now, it's sickening. Nobody in Congress gives a shiat about the little guy, whether he/she is DEM or GOP.

/end Captain Obvious rant
 
2013-03-07 02:42:42 PM  

joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.


Umm, no.  The flag code says that no OTHER flag can be higher than the American flag - they can all be lower.

"No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations."
 
2013-03-07 02:43:58 PM  

publikenemy: jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.

My lazy ass hasn't read through all the comments. I'm sure this has been said, but that gesture by Chavez is the same as the neighborhood mafia setting off nice fireworks for everyone every year, or helping the old lady out who can't pay her rent. Its done soley to buy influence and make it look as if he's a great guy..

Don't fall for it..it costs him next to nothing, and yet buys him good will in his perceived enemies domain.


So you oppose spending on the poor that does not cost the US Government anything? Can a recommend this clip from Life of Brian
 
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2013-03-07 02:46:50 PM  

chiett: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303


Read the article twice, still haven't found any "crimes". Was the guy a douche? Probably. Evil? Somewhere between Steinbrenner and Dr. Evil would be my guess. He didn't genocide anybody or invade a sovereign nation. As for Chitgo - boycott them if they've got your gander.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:09 PM  
Meh. Whatever.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:16 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]

and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)

Geez, all those guys were doing was shaking hands. It's not like they were sucking face and holding hands in some kind of bizarre homoerotic display. That would be gross.

[www.pensacolafishingforum.com image 328x264]


I always have the theme from A Summer Place in my head when I look at those photos.
 
2013-03-07 02:48:42 PM  

stonicus: Necronic: Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunset The flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.
[blog.mlive.com image 453x301]


The rule isn't talking about "clothes with red and white stripes and some blue things sewn on."

The rule is talking about wearing an actual flag.  Like, take it off a flagpole and turn it into a poncho.

The photos posted in this thread may be all derpful and redneck, or maybe just in obnoxiously-patriotic poor taste, but none of them are violating flag etiquette.  For that you need self-consciously edgy album covers.
 
2013-03-07 02:50:50 PM  
The angriest, stupidest, most virulent Fark threads are always about the most trivial events.
 
2013-03-07 02:51:10 PM  
That is one mighty fine box they planted that motherfarker in.

What I do on that grave wont pass for flowers.
 
2013-03-07 02:51:12 PM  
If you don't support Venezuela, but less gas.  But I suppose that pissing and whining and getting a stick up your ass is the more reasonable choice, rather than maybe giving up your lifted, sup'd up F350 dually that has never been off the tarmac.
 
2013-03-07 02:53:30 PM  
The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.
 
2013-03-07 02:53:38 PM  

joeflood: oh_please: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

Here we go  http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

§7 (g)  When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

Then again, True Patriots™ think we're at war with every non-US country...no flag from other countries should ever be flown on 'Murican soil, unless it's being set on fire and pissed on after drinking a gallon of Bud


You've obviously been hanging out with lapsed True Patriots, sir/madam/other!  Lemme fix your post to show you what REAL True Patriots think!

/lives in ohio
//oh God, the derp
///can't wait to leave
 
2013-03-07 02:54:39 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


The owner of a flag can fly it at half mast if they so choose.  Why do you hate private property rights?
 
2013-03-07 02:55:41 PM  

joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.


That point of etiquette refers to not flying one above another on the same staff.
 
2013-03-07 02:57:05 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

Umm, no.  The flag code says that no OTHER flag can be higher than the American flag - they can all be lower.

"No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations."


Try again:

(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

Link to the whole code:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7
 
2013-03-07 02:58:00 PM  

joeflood: Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another,


That is what I remember from school, too.  But I have not been able to find it written anywhere.  Do you have a reference?

This came up when a veteran blew a gasket over seeing the US and Canadian flags flown at the same height at a private business.
 
2013-03-07 02:58:08 PM  

r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.


The Citgo refinery in my home town had theirs at half mast, until about 500 pissed--off people called in to birch about it.
 
2013-03-07 02:58:16 PM  
I kept waiting for someone to say "Yeehaw".

/someone find a link to that march of the 800 patriots
 
2013-03-07 02:58:42 PM  
1) The Bill of Rights guarantees political free speech to the people.
2) Corporations are people.
3) Flag desecration (violation of the flag code) is political free speech.

What's the problem here?
 
2013-03-07 02:59:43 PM  

skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh


It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.
 
2013-03-07 03:00:18 PM  
You know those single issue politics people in your life who only care about one thing, like abortion, gun rights, etc? I know someone who only cares about the flag code. He will flip out if he sees something wrong with the way a flag is hanging or stored and if the word flag is mentioned don't expect him to stop talking until he tells you every single thing he knows about the American flag. A white supremacist militia could take over the country, bring back slavery, legalize rape, and require ritual sacrifice every Tuesday as long as they respected the physical flag and he would probably go about his life like nothing happened, unless of course he was sacrificed.
 
2013-03-07 03:01:43 PM  

louiedog: You know those single issue politics people in your life who only care about one thing, like abortion, gun rights, etc? I know someone who only cares about the flag code. He will flip out if he sees something wrong with the way a flag is hanging or stored and if the word flag is mentioned don't expect him to stop talking until he tells you every single thing he knows about the American flag. A white supremacist militia could take over the country, bring back slavery, legalize rape, and require ritual sacrifice every Tuesday as long as they respected the physical flag and he would probably go about his life like nothing happened, unless of course he was sacrificed.


I bet there is a 99.83479834873847% chance that that guy is autistic.
 
2013-03-07 03:02:22 PM  

r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.


CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!
 
2013-03-07 03:02:43 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 03:04:16 PM  
Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?
 
2013-03-07 03:05:34 PM  

There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.  But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?  That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran


There I Was: StoPPeR


Texas V. Johnson

First Ammendment applies.
 
2013-03-07 03:06:02 PM  

highwayrun: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

That point of etiquette refers to not flying one above another on the same staff.


No, it doesn't.  Here's the text:

(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
 
2013-03-07 03:06:17 PM  

TheBigJerk: Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?


I feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.
 
2013-03-07 03:07:04 PM  

seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]


You the same people who cry bloody murder when a gay slur is uttered?
 
2013-03-07 03:12:40 PM  

CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.


nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.
 
2013-03-07 03:12:55 PM  

seadoo2006: ManicMechanic: "It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 397x295]

MERICA!

[galeri7.uludagsozluk.com image 720x588]


Actually there are flights leaving for other countries if Venezuela will not work for you.  Serious, just go.  We honestly don't care where.
 
2013-03-07 03:14:13 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: TheBigJerk: Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?

I feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.


Maybe the wizard also feeds starving people coconuts, but force-feeds people coconuts even if they aren't starving or are allergic to coconuts?
 
2013-03-07 03:15:10 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.


/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.   But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment. Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?   That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran

There I Was: StoPPeR

Texas V. Johnson

First Ammendment applies.


Sigh.

My post was to refute your statement that flag etiquette (display of the flag, in this case) is not codified by law.

And damn, I wish I'd thought to mention the 1st amendment in my post.

BTW, your careful study of the law this semester has somehow missed out on the proper spelling of the word amendment.

But please, do go on.

/Texan, and you can V my Johnson
 
2013-03-07 03:16:17 PM  
I'm sure the lefties were fine when the Chilean companies lowered their flags to honor Pinochet.

(To be honest, I don't think we should lower flags for any non-American leaders. We gonna lower the flag when the Queen dies too?)
 
2013-03-07 03:17:13 PM  

hdhale: seadoo2006: ManicMechanic: "It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 397x295]

MERICA!

[galeri7.uludagsozluk.com image 720x588]

Actually there are flights leaving for other countries if Venezuela will not work for you.  Serious, just go.  We honestly don't care where.


I do ... whenever I like ... it's the brilliant ability of a dual citizen with Ireland.  At least when the sh*t hits the fan, I'll have a way out :)
 
2013-03-07 03:19:54 PM  

Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
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and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)


HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator
 
2013-03-07 03:20:04 PM  
I change my mind. Who cares what they do? Feel free to boycott or buycott on your own individual decision.
 
2013-03-07 03:20:29 PM  

skullkrusher: r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.

CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!


Well, they're not all doing it. Which begs the question, what kind of society throws a hissy fit over paying respect to the dead, even someone you don't like?
 
2013-03-07 03:20:41 PM  

Cobataiwan: I'm sure the lefties were fine when


I'm sure the blanks were blank when blank happened is dumb. Stop saying it.
 
2013-03-07 03:20:56 PM  

There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.   But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?   That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran

There I Was: StoPPeR

Texas V. Johnson

First Ammendment applies.

Sigh.

My post was to refute your statement that flag etiquette (display of the flag, in this case) is not codified by law.

And damn, I wish I'd thought to mention the 1st amendment in my post.

BTW, your careful study of the law this semester has somehow missed out on the proper spelling of the word amendment.

But please, do go on.

/Texan, and you can V my Johnson


 I saw that after I posted. Guess I was a bit too excited to know the exact case that applies, kinda. Laws are useless without punishment or remedy.

Students make mistakes. Go figure.
 
2013-03-07 03:22:06 PM  

clane: HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator


Are you saying Obama does that? Or Chavez did that? Because the former is a stupid thing to say, and the latter is possibly true but irrelevant to your comparison.
 
2013-03-07 03:23:56 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: United States damn ignorant of their crimes against South America.


But Freedom!

And Jesus! (he's my gardner, I pay him under the table.)
 
2013-03-07 03:24:55 PM  

r1niceboy: skullkrusher: r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.

CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!

Well, they're not all doing it. Which begs the question, what kind of society throws a hissy fit over paying respect to the dead, even someone you don't like?


every society I'd imagine
 
2013-03-07 03:25:15 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.


And The Aristocrats.
 
2013-03-07 03:28:12 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: clane: HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator

Are you saying Obama does that? Or Chavez did that? Because the former is a stupid thing to say, and the latter is possibly true but irrelevant to your comparison.


I think he's saying that Nixon, Rumsfield, and Obama did that, as well as Chavez.  It made me chuckle.
 
2013-03-07 03:30:27 PM  

skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.

nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.


When the thread is half-filled with know-nothing know-it-alls who haven't even read the goddamn flag code, but are SO SURE that some bullshiat interpretation they found on teh intarweb, or that their Uncle Gumbo told them when they were 9 years old, is correct, yeah I get a bit miffed.  Especially when it's so easy to google up the actual flag code.
 
2013-03-07 03:35:37 PM  

CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.

nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.

When the thread is half-filled with know-nothing know-it-alls who haven't even read the goddamn flag code, but are SO SURE that some bullshiat interpretation they found on teh intarweb, or that their Uncle Gumbo told them when they were 9 years old, is correct, yeah I get a bit miffed.  Especially when it's so easy to google up the actual flag code.


This is what I read:

"October 6, 2011. In memory of Steve Jobs, US flags were hung at half-staff at Apple headquarters and Disney World. Those two displays are not in accordance with the Flag Code. However, at Microsoft's headquarters, the US flag flew at full-staff, and the Microsoft corporate flag flew at half staff.
Section 7m authorizes the President, the Governor, and the Mayor of the District of Columbia to half-staff the US flag in certain circumstances.  "

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

No reason to get so upset, especially since I've indicated that I really don't have a strong opinion either way on this matter
 
2013-03-07 03:36:00 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Woops. Sorry mods. Didn't mean to get all up in an old fight.


Ditto.
 
2013-03-07 03:40:21 PM  

basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.


I don't and it doesn't. It's their flag, they can do what they want with it. It's not like it's going to bring him back from the dead....or is it?
 
2013-03-07 03:41:31 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.


I'm already popping the corn now.
 
2013-03-07 03:45:33 PM  
musingsonmatters.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-07 03:45:42 PM  
There is no law against it concerned patriots.
 
2013-03-07 03:48:14 PM  
clane:
HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator


Duke Phillips' Singing Bears:
Are you saying Obama does that? Or Chavez did that? Because the former is a stupid thing to say, and the latter is possibly true but irrelevant to your comparison.

clane:
62% of the American People don't want Obamacare but guess what tuff farking crap!
54% of Californians voted for Prop 8 but guess what, most states voted to ban gay marriage but guess what?  Obama urges justices to overturn gay marriage ban...

wake up!


cdn.pjmedia.com
 
2013-03-07 03:50:28 PM  
A caller named 'Doc' told Patrick, "I called their facilities manager and led a march of about 800 patriots from one of my Facebook pages."

Yeah, since Sept. 12, 2001, the term "patriot" has failed to impress me.

Doc also said he would head down to the corporate headquarters and take matters into his own hands if necessary.

"I'm ready to go down there. Eldridge isn't far from my house. I'll either remove the flag or I will put it at full mast," he stated.



The trespassing and other assorted charges will look nice on your record, "Doc".


Teddy wasn't satisfied with the company's explanation.

"I told the person that answered the phone that if she had a problem with raising the flag back up that I could come down and do it for her," he said.



See Teddy, here's the problem with that... It's not your farking flag, and it's not your farking property. It's also a private corporation, as opposed to a government entity. They can do whatever the fark they want, including flying it upside down. You also get to complain, but your don't get to "come down there" and "fix it".


The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions.


Bullshiat. You can do whatever you want. There are no actual LAWS about the flag. There are guidelines, and there are certain procedures that government entities have to observe, but there's no law. You can display the flag any way you want. You might get bad press for it, but there is nothing set in stone as that last line of the article implies.

CITGO is free to mourn Chavez's death, but they really shouldn't be lowering the US flag. For one, it is an empty gesture, the man wasn't American, and had no 'good' association with aAmerica. Lower the Venezuelan flag, fine, but not the US. Difference between me and the knuckle draggers is that even if I lived in Houston, I wouldn't be threatening to "come down and fix it", because I can actually respect private property.


/Sometimes
 
2013-03-07 03:50:40 PM  

chiett: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303


I'm not saying I agree with signaljammer or Truth-out.org, but at least they gave some actual examples and numbers to back their argument.  Your "Crimes of Hugo Chávez " is pretty much one guy saying "He lies!  He's corrupt!" over and over.

Chávez was an ass and I'm glad he's out of power.  But find a better article if you want to convince people you're right.
 
2013-03-07 03:50:44 PM  

clane: clane:
HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears:
Are you saying Obama does that? Or Chavez did that? Because the former is a stupid thing to say, and the latter is possibly true but irrelevant to your comparison.

clane:
62% of the American People don't want Obamacare but guess what tuff farking crap!
54% of Californians voted for Prop 8 but guess what, most states voted to ban gay marriage but guess what?  Obama urges justices to overturn gay marriage ban...

wake up!


[cdn.pjmedia.com image 850x635]


What a *real* DICTATOR may look like....

www.herecomethemummies.com
 
2013-03-07 03:52:20 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I have a problem with people who have problems with flags.


Well, I have a problem with people who have a problem with people who have problems with flags, so there!
 
2013-03-07 03:53:02 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


You can do whatever you want. There is a flag code, but there is no law. You don't even have to bring it in when the weather is bad or shine a spotlight on it if you have it up at night.
 
2013-03-07 03:54:31 PM  

scottydoesntknow: basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.

That's not enough. I must lead a march on facebook. Companies only listen if you have at least 800 others virtually marching with you.


I was going to ask. Is this a "thing" on Facebook? You can now have some kind of virtual "march"? Because if it is, it's the ultimate in "I'm pissed, but I'm just so goddamned lazy!!".
 
2013-03-07 03:57:21 PM  
He wasn't a bad guy.
Can't say that about a lot of third world leaders.
I think he he was pretty cool
with his red VW and stash.
Right up there with Lennon and McCartney.
 
2013-03-07 03:57:57 PM  

Mikey1969: tallguywithglasseson: But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

You can do whatever you want. There is a flag code, but there is no law. You don't even have to bring it in when the weather is bad or shine a spotlight on it if you have it up at night.


I was waiting for someone to say this.  You're not supposed to fly the flag at night, unless you shine a spotlight on it.  There are lots of way to violate the flag code.  CITGO violated the flag code, but so does my neighbor who doesn't illuminate his flag at night.  Although, my neighbor isn't a socialist dictator....
 
2013-03-07 03:58:20 PM  
In my neck of the woods, I don't know what country I'm really in.  I see some of these "patriots" flying Confederate flags.  They won't accept the fact that the Confederate States of America lost a war 150 years ago and was conquered by the United States, and that the former Confederate states have been part of the U.S. since then.  Since many of them also fly U.S. flags, they must think that the Confederate States is really an autonomous part of the U.S.  They venerate that Confederate cloth as much as the U.S. one.  I also see an occasional Mexican flag around here as well.  I might as well be living in the Mexican Confederate States of America, or the Confederate States of Mexico.
 
2013-03-07 03:58:35 PM  

basemetal: DaWormyPimpsta: As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.


If by "always" you mean "always in American English," then yes.   Commonwealth English has different rules.
 
2013-03-07 03:59:12 PM  

lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?


I'm willing to bet that our governement offices will lower the flag when the queen of England, whomever runs Australia, and possibly leaders of Germany..
 
2013-03-07 04:00:21 PM  

Steven_M_TX: In my neck of the woods, I don't know what country I'm really in.  I see some of these "patriots" flying Confederate flags.  They won't accept the fact that the Confederate States of America lost a war 150 years ago and was conquered by the United States, and that the former Confederate states have been part of the U.S. since then.  Since many of them also fly U.S. flags, they must think that the Confederate States is really an autonomous part of the U.S.  They venerate that Confederate cloth as much as the U.S. one.  I also see an occasional Mexican flag around here as well.  I might as well be living in the Mexican Confederate States of America, or the Confederate States of Mexico.



Estados Confederados de México has a nice ring to it...
 
2013-03-07 04:01:42 PM  

skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.

nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.

When the thread is half-filled with know-nothing know-it-alls who haven't even read the goddamn flag code, but are SO SURE that some bullshiat interpretation they found on teh intarweb, or that their Uncle Gumbo told them when they were 9 years old, is correct, yeah I get a bit miffed.  Especially when it's so easy to google up the actual flag code.

This is what I read:

"October 6, 2011. In memory of Steve Jobs, US flags were hung at half-staff at Apple headquarters and Disney World. Those two displays are not in accordance with the Flag Code. However, at Microsoft's headquarters, the US flag flew at full-staff, and the Microsoft corporate flag flew at half staff.
Section 7m authorizes the President, the Governor, and the Mayor of the District of Columbia to half-staff the US flag in certain circumstances.  "

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

No reason to get so upset ...


Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.
 
2013-03-07 04:02:38 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.


taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official
 
2013-03-07 04:04:02 PM  

There I Was: Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.


Can I do any more to highlight the words "advisory rules"?
 
2013-03-07 04:05:24 PM  

AdolfClamwacker: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

I'm willing to bet that our governement offices will lower the flag when the queen of England, whomever runs Australia, and possibly leaders of Germany..


Whoever runs Australia?  She's sort of hot.  She's no Yulia Tymoshenko, but still...

resources2.news.com.au

/I'm passing on your grammar mistake.
// Austria
 
2013-03-07 04:05:59 PM  

Onkel Buck: Necronic: I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.

And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
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Let's recap, shall we?
Necronic: "Republicans violate the flag code more than anyone else."
Onkel Buck: "You said liberals never violate the flag!  But here's a liberal doing it!"
Hmmm.  I think there's a problem here.
 
2013-03-07 04:07:33 PM  
clane is on a derp bender again.
 
2013-03-07 04:07:59 PM  

headslacker: He wasn't a bad guy.
Can't say that about a lot of third world leaders.
I think he he was pretty cool
with his red VW and stash.
Right up there with Lennon and McCartney.


Lennon and McCartney were musicians, not heads of states.  Big difference here.
 
2013-03-07 04:09:42 PM  

skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official


I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.
 
2013-03-07 04:10:08 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: AdolfClamwacker: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

I'm willing to bet that our governement offices will lower the flag when the queen of England, whomever runs Australia, and possibly leaders of Germany..

Whoever runs Australia?  She's sort of hot.  She's no Yulia Tymoshenko, but still...

[resources2.news.com.au image 650x366]

/I'm passing on your grammar mistake.
// Austria


Dr Lecter? Dr Lecter? DrLecterDrLecterDrLecter?
 
2013-03-07 04:12:07 PM  

joonyer: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.


no you don't. You invented a pattern.
I do get things wrong sometimes. When I do, I admit them and in this case even pointed out the offending google result. Try it sometime. Or don't and keep pretending like you're not a low class douchebag. Either way, tea in China will still be the price of eggs in Pretoria
 
2013-03-07 04:13:30 PM  

skullkrusher: Smoky Dragon Dish: AdolfClamwacker: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

I'm willing to bet that our governement offices will lower the flag when the queen of England, whomever runs Australia, and possibly leaders of Germany..

Whoever runs Australia?  She's sort of hot.  She's no Yulia Tymoshenko, but still...

[resources2.news.com.au image 650x366]

/I'm passing on your grammar mistake.
// Austria

Dr Lecter? Dr Lecter? DrLecterDrLecterDrLecter?


I know, right?  She looks like Jodie Foster.
 
2013-03-07 04:16:07 PM  
I'm surpised that no one has brought up Chris Christie ordering the flag be flown at half-mast following the death of Whitney Houston... especially since everybody (on the right) thinks Obama did that.  And, that the sniper-guy didn't get the flag flown at half mast when he died.
 
2013-03-07 04:17:05 PM  
Why are you guys all harping on whether or not the flag code is a "law"?  We're not allowed to criticize people for doing things that are legal now?  Is there a law against that?
 
2013-03-07 04:18:27 PM  

harbingerofdoom: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.


I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.
 
2013-03-07 04:19:23 PM  

skullkrusher: joonyer: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.

no you don't. You invented a pattern.
I do get things wrong sometimes. When I do, I admit them and in this case even pointed out the offending google result. Try it sometime. Or don't and keep pretending like you're not a low class douchebag. Either way, tea in China will still be the price of eggs in Pretoria


Is this an Oscar "Blade Runner" Pistorius joke, or am I missing something?  That all went down in Pretoria.  I'm not up on the latest japes on Fark.
 
2013-03-07 04:20:44 PM  

serial_crusher: Why are you guys all harping on whether or not the flag code is a "law"?  We're not allowed to criticize people for doing things that are legal now?  Is there a law against that?


Because there are many ignorant people out there. Some of us are just trying to understand their perspective. Why is that a problem? Is there a law against that?
 
2013-03-07 04:21:27 PM  

"skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official


I don't think so.  The code doesn't prohibit individuals (or corporations) from flying the flag at half mast to honor whomever they want.
 
2013-03-07 04:21:46 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: skullkrusher: joonyer: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.

no you don't. You invented a pattern.
I do get things wrong sometimes. When I do, I admit them and in this case even pointed out the offending google result. Try it sometime. Or don't and keep pretending like you're not a low class douchebag. Either way, tea in China will still be the price of eggs in Pretoria

Is this an Oscar "Blade Runner" Pistorius joke, or am I missing something?  That all went down in Pretoria.  I'm not up on the latest japes on Fark.


just a city that popped to mind though Oscar doesn't have a leg to stand on
 
2013-03-07 04:22:17 PM  
That's it, I'm not buying my gas from Citgo anymore...

Unless it's cheaper than the other stuff.

Merica!
 
2013-03-07 04:22:48 PM  

ciberido: harbingerofdoom: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.

I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.


Well, *I'M* getting sick of people thinking all rightthinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed-up in this country with being sick and tired.
 
2013-03-07 04:23:30 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: serial_crusher: Why are you guys all harping on whether or not the flag code is a "law"?  We're not allowed to criticize people for doing things that are legal now?  Is there a law against that?

Because there are many ignorant people out there. Some of us are just trying to understand their perspective. Why is that a problem? Is there a law against that?


Hey, I'm just asking questions
 
2013-03-07 04:24:07 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: ciberido: harbingerofdoom: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.

I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.

Well, *I'M* getting sick of people thinking all rightthinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed-up in this country with being sick and tired.


One day my mother said "I am just SICK..." I said "and tired!"

...

I don't remember anything after that.
 
2013-03-07 04:24:32 PM  

skullkrusher: Smoky Dragon Dish: skullkrusher: joonyer: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.

no you don't. You invented a pattern.
I do get things wrong sometimes. When I do, I admit them and in this case even pointed out the offending google result. Try it sometime. Or don't and keep pretending like you're not a low class douchebag. Either way, tea in China will still be the price of eggs in Pretoria

Is this an Oscar "Blade Runner" Pistorius joke, or am I missing something?  That all went down in Pretoria.  I'm not up on the latest japes on Fark.

just a city that popped to mind though Oscar doesn't have a leg to stand on


It's worse than that. He doesn't have ANY leg to stand on, actually.
 
2013-03-07 04:24:39 PM  

serial_crusher: StoPPeRmobile: serial_crusher: Why are you guys all harping on whether or not the flag code is a "law"?  We're not allowed to criticize people for doing things that are legal now?  Is there a law against that?

Because there are many ignorant people out there. Some of us are just trying to understand their perspective. Why is that a problem? Is there a law against that?

Hey, I'm just asking questions


lol. Thanks for that.
 
2013-03-07 04:25:09 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: TheBigJerk: Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?

I feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.


Grasped by the husk?  Are they migratory?
 
2013-03-07 04:25:24 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Smoky Dragon Dish: ciberido: harbingerofdoom: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.

I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.

Well, *I'M* getting sick of people thinking all rightthinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed-up in this country with being sick and tired.

One day my mother said "I am just SICK..." I said "and tired!"

...

I don't remember anything after that.


I was just thinking about that the other day.

/CHOCOLATE CAKE
 
2013-03-07 04:25:41 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: That's it, I'm not buying my gas from Citgo anymore...

Unless it's cheaper than the other stuff.


Bullshiat, you're going to whichever station is closest to the exit, even though it charges $1 more per gallon than the other stations, just like everyone else.
 
2013-03-07 04:26:01 PM  

CheekyMonkey: "skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I don't think so.  The code doesn't prohibit individuals (or corporations) from flying the flag at half mast to honor whomever they want.


shiat's confusing yo.
Maybe it matters if there are local or state ordinances which regulate it - that could be what the code refers to
 
2013-03-07 04:27:13 PM  

ciberido: Grasped by the husk?  Are they migratory?


I don't know that.

/is thrown off cliff
//dies
 
2013-03-07 04:27:46 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: ciberido: harbingerofdoom: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.

I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.

Well, *I'M* getting sick of people thinking all rightthinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed-up in this country with being sick and tired.


I think my eyes almost just fell out
 
2013-03-07 04:27:53 PM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu:  Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]
So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]
Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]
and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]
All of them inconsolable I heard.
(I can play your stupid game too)
Geez, all those guys were doing was shaking hands. It's not like they were sucking face and holding hands in some kind of bizarre homoerotic display. That would be gross.
 www.fpif.org
 
2013-03-07 04:29:21 PM  

joonyer: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.


He owned up to it, let it go.  Pretty sure every one of us has made the mistake of stating something as fact, and then finding out it isn't true.  I know I have...
 
2013-03-07 04:32:34 PM  

joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.


You should let the Olympics in on this .
 
2013-03-07 04:32:43 PM  

CheekyMonkey: joonyer: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: Yeah, I know, it's no good for my blood pressure.

What you read is a mis-interpretation of the flag code, which actually states that only the Pres, the Govs and the Mayor of DC have the authority to ORDER ALL US flags flown at half-staff, and lists the reasons that they are allowed to issue such an order.

taking the code literally, flying the flag at half mast for Jobs would be a violation since he is not a foreign dignitary or other official

I sense a pattern here. You make shiat up, it angers someone, they call you out on it with facts, and all you can do is feign surprise at their anger.  But I see you've added a new move to your dismount: The Hairsplitter.

He owned up to it, let it go.  Pretty sure every one of us has made the mistake of stating something as fact, and then finding out it isn't true.  I know I have...


hehe I even looked that one up before posting. I don't have the Code memorized. I was only a Boy Scout for 1 year.
 
2013-03-07 04:37:37 PM  

wingnut396: Example of people angry at Ctigo flying the flag at half mast because they are ignoring the flag code.

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[www.teaparty911.com image 720x480]
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Without reading if someone else already said it, not one of those items is a flag.  They may be inspired by the flag, but they are not flags.
 
2013-03-07 04:37:53 PM  

Enigmamf: Onkel Buck: Necronic: I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.

And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
[i26.photobucket.com image 313x430]

Wait, so you have to go back to the 60s to get a picture of a liberal wrapping himself in the American flag?


No I could have posted Katy Perry in hers but you jerk off too much already. Plus I know making fun of Abbie Hoffman really gets em riled up around here, he's like your John Wayne or some shiat
 
2013-03-07 04:49:06 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


Yes it is!  Thats why nobody ever wears the flag as a shirt and claims patriotism!
 
2013-03-07 04:50:07 PM  

Steven_M_TX: headslacker: He wasn't a bad guy.
Can't say that about a lot of third world leaders.
I think he he was pretty cool
with his red VW and stash.
Right up there with Lennon and McCartney.

Lennon and McCartney were musicians, not heads of states.  Big difference here.


Steven_M_TX
You've been smoking to much Flag.

Much like my mom... FloydA.
You're an Idiot.!.
It was a joke! Like most if these Flag "Law" posts.
Unless, you've heard his Latin jazz CD.
"Chavez in the Grass." Smooth...
 
2013-03-07 04:53:23 PM  

gunga galunga: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.

I'm curious why that one farker who was sucking Hugo Chavez' dead dick in the first thread after his death hasn't made any other appearances.


Was he sucking his dick?  Or pointing out that Chavez didn't suck American corporate dick, and that's why the Newscorp/Committee for the Present Danger crowd had a problem with him?
 
2013-03-07 04:53:38 PM  
In about a weeks time this will be change to Obama lowered the flag for Chavez and shared in Facebook by my derpier friends.
 
2013-03-07 04:55:02 PM  

There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.  But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?  That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran


It goes on to say somewhere -  "Again, the provisions of the Flag Code on flying the flag at half-staff are, like all the Code's provisions, a guide only. They do not apply, as a matter of law, to the display of the flag at half-staff by private individuals and organizations. No federal restrictions or court decisions are known that limit such an individual's lowering his own flag or that make such display alone a form of desecration. "
 
2013-03-07 04:57:11 PM  
Hey, let's go to war in Venezuela, guys!  Better-looking whores and more of them, enemies who like to siesta, and aren't into suicide bombings so much.


/wingnuts probably see those as good reasons
 
2013-03-07 04:59:11 PM  
Chavez was a typical homicidal dictator, and Citgo is a BS company at the head, but locally-owned at the outlet level.  But at some point one needs to ignore government policies, otherwise we all sound like our angry grandparents spluttering about the "rotten Nips and their Jap-crap cars" or the "Krauts and their Nazi-mobiles".

This is one of those situations I go "meh", because boycotting hurts local jobs.

Like buying a car--I only buy cars assembled/made in America.  Like my last couple of Camry's.  I really don't want to get something that does nothing for our country, other than help some paper shuffler at the dealership.  Most Ram pickup trucks, and until 2013, the new Camaros, were foreign-built.
 
2013-03-07 05:00:21 PM  

LarryDan43: In about a weeks time this will be change to Obama lowered the flag for Chavez and shared in Facebook by my derpier friends.


My thoughts exactly.  I'm sure that Fox has their photoshop team working overtime to put it on the front lawn of the White House and Fox scripts are being written to "report" on this.
 
2013-03-07 05:04:17 PM  
Eh... Whatever.

Citgo's the cheapest station in my neighborhood and they're the only company that gave to Joe for Oil to help poor Americans get heating oil in the winter.

Two of the reasons why I'll continue to patronize their gas stations.
 
2013-03-07 05:07:29 PM  
It's a Banner. The Flag that is.
It's little more the a decoration.
It's like God, can mean as little or as much
As you care. Like money, it's you'rs in your hand.
Wipe your ass with it, burn i,t worship it. It's an illusion of an idea.
 
2013-03-07 05:08:53 PM  

ciberido: basemetal: DaWormyPimpsta: As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.

If by "always" you mean "always in American English," then yes.   Commonwealth English has different rules.


Does Houston sound like a farking commonwealth to you?
 
2013-03-07 05:09:33 PM  

draypresct: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

From your link:
*infant mortality dropped from 25 per 1000 (1990) to only 13/1000 (2010);

From the CIA world factbook:
20.18 deaths/1000 live births

13 v. 20 is not a small error. Makes me wonder about the accuracy of the other statistics in your link.


Infant mortality doesn't mean much from country to country, or year to year in the same country, if the rules for determining live birth are not fixed, well known, and applied accurately and honestly across the nation/world.   Of course, don't completely discard the data, but consider the room for shananigans and the motives for shenanigans.  One motive to lie might be to save your job, your life, or make your institution look better than others.  A better picture of health care in a country might be the infant mortality ranking (not rate) averaged with national ranking for Maternal Mortality Rate, a number that is going to be inherently far more difficult to bullshiat.  Life expectancy as a gauge is worse than using mortality - it's not the doctor's fault if the population is a bunch of overweight lazy drug addicts.


(IMO - yours may vary, especially if mine fails to prove a political point important to you that you know you are correct on but just need the data to prove out)
 
2013-03-07 05:18:16 PM  
I GD sure have a problem with this
 
2013-03-07 05:19:52 PM  

chiett: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303


"This man never stops lying. He manipulates the people, falsifies history, carries out the systematic destruction of democracy, has multiplied the domestic problems of the people, and has involved us in dangerous international alliances with nations and terrorist groups "

From the article, or Tea-Bagger Herp-A-Derp?  They have the same poly-sci teachers.
 
2013-03-07 05:26:17 PM  
This is the worst thing an oil company has ever done.
 
2013-03-07 05:26:42 PM  
RIP Hugo Chavez.  Thank you from all 250,000 of the low-income families in New England that you donated oil to during this cold winter (and multiple winters before).  Hugo Chavez was a true humanitarian.
 
2013-03-07 05:30:18 PM  
Hugo might have been crazy, but all the other people in Venazwela are the salt of the earth.

They all hated him and it would be a great country if only the enlightened citizens had a chance to vote.
 
2013-03-07 05:31:56 PM  
we should have nationalized citgo.
 
2013-03-07 05:35:46 PM  

basemetal: "                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.


That rule is antiquated and is currently changing back to its original roots.  Tucking the period is a throwback to the early days of moveable type, as an answer to the period getting damaged and being deemed more important than other dangling punctuation.

Since everything in the printing industry has been digital for many years now, pulling the period out to its logical position is gaining traction.
 
2013-03-07 05:35:49 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: A caller named 'Doc' told Patrick, "I called their facilities manager and led a march of about 800 patriots from one of my Facebook pages."

800 patriots. Led on a "march". From one of his Facebook pages.

That sounds like a "whoever wins, we lose" type of situation.

But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


This!

I wish there were Citgo stations in my town so I could boycott them.

I once worked in an office building next to a Four Seasons Hotel. They flew a US, Texas and Canadian flag every day, but one day the US flag got lowered to half mast (for a legit reason, I don't recall why) but left the Canadian and state flags at full mast.

A lot of people noticed and bitterly complained. I'm surprised we didn't burn the hotel to the ground.

If you're going to display the US flag you have a duty to respect it and observe flag etiquette.

I don't think I've ever seen a flag flown at a gas station.
 
2013-03-07 05:44:08 PM  
images.sodahead.com
 
2013-03-07 05:44:21 PM  

FarkedOver: RIP Hugo Chavez.  Thank you from all 250,000 of the low-income families in New England that you donated oil to during this cold winter (and multiple winters before).  Hugo Chavez was a true humanitarian.


If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
 
2013-03-07 05:47:03 PM  

Snarfangel: FarkedOver: RIP Hugo Chavez.  Thank you from all 250,000 of the low-income families in New England that you donated oil to during this cold winter (and multiple winters before).  Hugo Chavez was a true humanitarian.

If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?


In Hugo Chavez's case, probably capitalists.
 
2013-03-07 05:47:53 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: clane: wake up!

whatever. Civil rights aren't up for a vote, and the affordable care act passed the house and the senate. tough titties, quit crying, you're a stupid baby, etc etc.


I think we need a new law, analogous to Godwin's Law, for the use of "wake up" or "sheeple."   Since there is not yet any such law so far as I know, I'm gonna call dibs and name it "ciberido's 6th law."  Now to formulate it, hmmmm

'The more a poster uses the expressions "wake up" or "sheeple" unironically, the less likely it is that they have anything intelligent to contribute to the discussion."
 
2013-03-07 05:49:15 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Smoky Dragon Dish: ciberido: harbingerofdoom: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

thats rather hypocritical.. getting pissy about people getting pissy about things you dont approve of because they dont approve of them.

I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.

Well, *I'M* getting sick of people thinking all rightthinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed-up in this country with being sick and tired.

One day my mother said "I am just SICK..." I said "and tired!"

...

I don't remember anything after that.


Do you like Jell-o Pudding, by any chance?
 
2013-03-07 05:52:37 PM  

Onkel Buck: Enigmamf: Onkel Buck: And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
[i26.photobucket.com image 313x430]

Wait, so you have to go back to the 60s to get a picture of a liberal wrapping himself in the American flag?

No I could have posted Katy Perry in hers but you jerk off too much already. Plus I know making fun of Abbie Hoffman really gets em riled up around here, he's like your John Wayne or some shiat



It's really fun listening to you speculate what liberals might be like.  It's like listening to virgins talk about sex.  Have you really never met one?
 
2013-03-07 06:44:15 PM  
It's funny cause it upsets Tex-Ass-ians
 
2013-03-07 06:45:54 PM  

seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]


I can't wait for the reaction the first time you discover a bum watering the flowers on a loved one's grave.  It's only a dumb stone with a name on it after all.
 
2013-03-07 06:47:02 PM  

brantgoose: Much of this etiquette was originally informal and not official, then it applied only to government flags (I believe legislation has been passed extending some of it, but it is still a mixture of invention, custom and law).


To be fair, well, pretty much every major law and custom started that way. It was, at some point, not against the law to murder.
 
2013-03-07 06:47:47 PM  
I don't know if anybody watched this when PBS aired it, but I thought it was good and fairly insightful.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hugochavez/view/
 
2013-03-07 06:54:37 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: louiedog: You know those single issue politics people in your life who only care about one thing, like abortion, gun rights, etc? I know someone who only cares about the flag code. He will flip out if he sees something wrong with the way a flag is hanging or stored and if the word flag is mentioned don't expect him to stop talking until he tells you every single thing he knows about the American flag. A white supremacist militia could take over the country, bring back slavery, legalize rape, and require ritual sacrifice every Tuesday as long as they respected the physical flag and he would probably go about his life like nothing happened, unless of course he was sacrificed.

I bet there is a 99.83479834873847% chance that that guy is autistic.


Would you round that off, please?
 
2013-03-07 06:56:10 PM  

ciberido: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: clane: wake up!

whatever. Civil rights aren't up for a vote, and the affordable care act passed the house and the senate. tough titties, quit crying, you're a stupid baby, etc etc.

I think we need a new law, analogous to Godwin's Law, for the use of "wake up" or "sheeple."   Since there is not yet any such law so far as I know, I'm gonna call dibs and name it "ciberido's 6th law."  Now to formulate it, hmmmm

'The more a poster uses the expressions "wake up" or "sheeple" unironically, the less likely it is that they have anything intelligent to contribute to the discussion."


Whatever noob.
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-03-07 06:58:49 PM  

basemetal: ciberido: basemetal: DaWormyPimpsta: As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.

Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.

If by "always" you mean "always in American English," then yes.   Commonwealth English has different rules.

Does Houston sound like a farking commonwealth to you?


I don't know.  Is that in Austria?
 
2013-03-07 07:14:36 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: A caller named 'Doc' told Patrick, "I called their facilities manager and led a march of about 800 patriots from one of my Facebook pages."

800 patriots. Led on a "march". From one of his Facebook pages.

That sounds like a "whoever wins, we lose" type of situation.

But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


I assume the President you're talking to is the dickhead in charge of Citgo and not Obama.

And really, Chavez was a Mussolini-class bombastic butthole. Good riddance to him!
 
2013-03-07 07:28:29 PM  
Like anybody cares.

Governors lower the flag constantly without Presidential direction. Cities do it. Companies do it. It doesn't matter who they lower it for.

Only the President...

Not that anyone cares
 
2013-03-07 07:56:14 PM  
A flag is just a flag. To lose sight of rights such as free speech in the name of wild patriotism is to betray why you are a patriot in the first place. It really makes no sense. Some make the case that America is great because of its freedoms and then set out to limit those freedoms because they don`t agree with the politics of those that exercise them. A strange situation indeed.
 
2013-03-07 07:58:05 PM  

Snarfangel: FarkedOver: RIP Hugo Chavez.  Thank you from all 250,000 of the low-income families in New England that you donated oil to during this cold winter (and multiple winters before).  Hugo Chavez was a true humanitarian.

If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?


And if you're having a vegetarian and a humanitarian over for dinner, what do you serve?

morristrust.com
 
2013-03-07 08:09:51 PM  
There is no sunlight between my thumb and forefinger when I demonstrate how large of a shiat I give about what Citgo does when it doesn't involve raising prices.  Are people really this high strung over something that really has nothing to do with them?  Am I really asking that question?
 
2013-03-07 08:17:07 PM  

NeoCortex42: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

That is correct, although I do disagree with them lowering the US flag in this instance.  I think they should have just lowered the Venezuelan flag and left it at that.

Then again, Freedom of Speech.  They have every right to do it.


This. If you can burn a flag or turn it upside down in protest of US policy, you can choose when to use it to mourn.  Don't have to like it.
 
2013-03-07 08:59:32 PM  

clowncar on fire: seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]

I can't wait for the reaction the first time you discover a bum watering the flowers on a loved one's grave.  It's only a dumb stone with a name on it after all.


Meh ... everyone I know has gotten cremated ... why the hell would you want your own plot of land for the rest of your life?
 
2013-03-07 09:01:50 PM  
I guess they will fly the flag at half staff when I die too . Doesn't everyone get that honor anymore ?
 
2013-03-07 09:57:11 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


No, now is when all the assholes who put flags on the back of their vehicles, wear jackets made out of flags and suck the flag as they fall asleep come out of the woodwork to keep everyone straight.
 
2013-03-07 10:03:55 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

No, now is when all the assholes who put flags on the back of their vehicles, wear jackets made out of flags and suck the flag as they fall asleep come out of the woodwork to keep everyone straight.


If you are against free speech then you do not believe in what that flag stands for. To love that flag is to love the freedom to spit on it. You don`t have to love spitting on the flag, just the right to do so. If you think otherwise then you do not respect the flag. You respect only your version of America. It is not freedom when you demand others think as you do.
 
2013-03-07 10:38:02 PM  

chumboobler: Insatiable Jesus: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

No, now is when all the assholes who put flags on the back of their vehicles, wear jackets made out of flags and suck the flag as they fall asleep come out of the woodwork to keep everyone straight.

If you are against free speech then you do not believe in what that flag stands for. To love that flag is to love the freedom to spit on it. You don`t have to love spitting on the flag, just the right to do so. If you think otherwise then you do not respect the flag. You respect only your version of America. It is not freedom when you demand others think as you do.


A fair point, but many people do not respect flag etiquette even though their intent is not to disrespect it.

If someone wants to burn the flag, that should be protected speech. If you want to make a pair of pants out of a flag, well, that's your right but it is disrespectful and you should be criticized for it.

There's an upside down flag in the movie Easy Rider and it's not the one on Capt. America's leather jacket. Kind of an interesting piece of trivia about the movie. I don't know if it was flown upside down on purpose.

I've seen a couple of breaches of flag etiquette done by a state:

home.comcast.net

home.comcast.net
Those are both pictures of the Motor Vehicle Department (Arizona's version of what's called the DMV in most states)

I'm not sure I have a point. Maybe Arizona should just start flying the Mexican flag.
 
2013-03-07 10:50:00 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: nekom: Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

Christ almighty. Did I say something about law or punishment? No. I said (by not following the etiquette) they are shiat heads.


Happy Hours: I've seen a couple of breaches of flag etiquette done by a state:


I saw one after Benghazi: at one of the local towns, the VFW has a nice memorial in the center of town.  They lowered the American flag.  But not any of the others.
 
2013-03-07 10:53:10 PM  

r1niceboy: skullkrusher: r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.

CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!

Well, they're not all doing it. Which begs the question, what kind of society throws a hissy fit over paying respect to the dead, even someone you don't like?


Yeah...I mean, do people not know who owns Citgo?
 
2013-03-07 11:20:49 PM  

RY28: Might as well cut all flag poles in half anymore . The flag is flying at half mast more often than not.


Nope.  In a thread populated primarily by morons, you are the most moronic.  Nicely done.
 
2013-03-07 11:23:05 PM  

ciberido: Onkel Buck: Enigmamf: Onkel Buck: And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
[i26.photobucket.com image 313x430]

Wait, so you have to go back to the 60s to get a picture of a liberal wrapping himself in the American flag?

No I could have posted Katy Perry in hers but you jerk off too much already. Plus I know making fun of Abbie Hoffman really gets em riled up around here, he's like your John Wayne or some shiat


It's really fun listening to you speculate what liberals might be like.  It's like listening to virgins talk about sex.  Have you really never met one?


Boobs feel like bags of sand.
 
2013-03-07 11:39:46 PM  

ChipNASA: Ned Stark: ChipNASA: Butt Buddies.

You can you tell when you're done?

OMFG


[djriskone.com image 300x300]

/wish I'd have thought of that.


That's some funny shiat right there, I can tell.
 
2013-03-08 07:20:55 AM  

ciberido: Onkel Buck: Enigmamf: Onkel Buck: And liberals are never guilty of being tacky
[i26.photobucket.com image 313x430]

Wait, so you have to go back to the 60s to get a picture of a liberal wrapping himself in the American flag?

No I could have posted Katy Perry in hers but you jerk off too much already. Plus I know making fun of Abbie Hoffman really gets em riled up around here, he's like your John Wayne or some shiat


It's really fun listening to you speculate what liberals might be like.  It's like listening to virgins talk about sex.  Have you really never met one?


I live near the People's Republic of Chapel Hill and my aunt worked at the DNC in Charlotte this past election. So yes I know a few liberals, and for the most part they fit their stereotypes same as conservatives. Next question?
 
2013-03-08 07:35:31 AM  
One more reason to hate Citgo.
 
2013-03-08 06:55:08 PM  

Mikey1969: There is a flag code, but there is no law.


Wrong, there is a law. 4 U.S.C. § 1.
There's no punishment for disobeying it... but then, I wasn't suggesting there was (or should be).
Just that they're shiat heads for lowing the flag to half-mast against the code in honor of Chavez, who was fairly hostile towards the U.S..

I haven't noticed a lot of people making the case that they did the right thing by lowering it, just a lot of straw man arguments about the constitution or legality of doing so.
In other words, boring.
 
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