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(Mega 949)   To honor the passing of Hugo Chavez, Citgo lowers flags to half-mast. The U.S. flag. Some people have a problem with this   (mega949.com) divider line 302
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2013-03-07 02:43:58 PM

publikenemy: jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.

My lazy ass hasn't read through all the comments. I'm sure this has been said, but that gesture by Chavez is the same as the neighborhood mafia setting off nice fireworks for everyone every year, or helping the old lady out who can't pay her rent. Its done soley to buy influence and make it look as if he's a great guy..

Don't fall for it..it costs him next to nothing, and yet buys him good will in his perceived enemies domain.


So you oppose spending on the poor that does not cost the US Government anything? Can a recommend this clip from Life of Brian
 
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2013-03-07 02:46:50 PM

chiett: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303


Read the article twice, still haven't found any "crimes". Was the guy a douche? Probably. Evil? Somewhere between Steinbrenner and Dr. Evil would be my guess. He didn't genocide anybody or invade a sovereign nation. As for Chitgo - boycott them if they've got your gander.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:09 PM
Meh. Whatever.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:16 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]

and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)

Geez, all those guys were doing was shaking hands. It's not like they were sucking face and holding hands in some kind of bizarre homoerotic display. That would be gross.

[www.pensacolafishingforum.com image 328x264]


I always have the theme from A Summer Place in my head when I look at those photos.
 
2013-03-07 02:48:42 PM

stonicus: Necronic: Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunset The flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.
[blog.mlive.com image 453x301]


The rule isn't talking about "clothes with red and white stripes and some blue things sewn on."

The rule is talking about wearing an actual flag.  Like, take it off a flagpole and turn it into a poncho.

The photos posted in this thread may be all derpful and redneck, or maybe just in obnoxiously-patriotic poor taste, but none of them are violating flag etiquette.  For that you need self-consciously edgy album covers.
 
2013-03-07 02:50:50 PM
The angriest, stupidest, most virulent Fark threads are always about the most trivial events.
 
2013-03-07 02:51:10 PM
That is one mighty fine box they planted that motherfarker in.

What I do on that grave wont pass for flowers.
 
2013-03-07 02:51:12 PM
If you don't support Venezuela, but less gas.  But I suppose that pissing and whining and getting a stick up your ass is the more reasonable choice, rather than maybe giving up your lifted, sup'd up F350 dually that has never been off the tarmac.
 
2013-03-07 02:52:00 PM
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2013-03-07 02:53:30 PM
The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.
 
2013-03-07 02:53:38 PM

joeflood: oh_please: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

Here we go  http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

§7 (g)  When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

Then again, True Patriots™ think we're at war with every non-US country...no flag from other countries should ever be flown on 'Murican soil, unless it's being set on fire and pissed on after drinking a gallon of Bud


You've obviously been hanging out with lapsed True Patriots, sir/madam/other!  Lemme fix your post to show you what REAL True Patriots think!

/lives in ohio
//oh God, the derp
///can't wait to leave
 
2013-03-07 02:54:39 PM

tallguywithglasseson: You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.


The owner of a flag can fly it at half mast if they so choose.  Why do you hate private property rights?
 
2013-03-07 02:55:41 PM

joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.


That point of etiquette refers to not flying one above another on the same staff.
 
2013-03-07 02:57:05 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

Umm, no.  The flag code says that no OTHER flag can be higher than the American flag - they can all be lower.

"No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations."


Try again:

(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

Link to the whole code:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7
 
2013-03-07 02:58:00 PM

joeflood: Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another,


That is what I remember from school, too.  But I have not been able to find it written anywhere.  Do you have a reference?

This came up when a veteran blew a gasket over seeing the US and Canadian flags flown at the same height at a private business.
 
2013-03-07 02:58:08 PM

r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.


The Citgo refinery in my home town had theirs at half mast, until about 500 pissed--off people called in to birch about it.
 
2013-03-07 02:58:16 PM
I kept waiting for someone to say "Yeehaw".

/someone find a link to that march of the 800 patriots
 
2013-03-07 02:58:42 PM
1) The Bill of Rights guarantees political free speech to the people.
2) Corporations are people.
3) Flag desecration (violation of the flag code) is political free speech.

What's the problem here?
 
2013-03-07 02:59:43 PM

skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh


It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.
 
2013-03-07 03:00:18 PM
You know those single issue politics people in your life who only care about one thing, like abortion, gun rights, etc? I know someone who only cares about the flag code. He will flip out if he sees something wrong with the way a flag is hanging or stored and if the word flag is mentioned don't expect him to stop talking until he tells you every single thing he knows about the American flag. A white supremacist militia could take over the country, bring back slavery, legalize rape, and require ritual sacrifice every Tuesday as long as they respected the physical flag and he would probably go about his life like nothing happened, unless of course he was sacrificed.
 
2013-03-07 03:01:43 PM

louiedog: You know those single issue politics people in your life who only care about one thing, like abortion, gun rights, etc? I know someone who only cares about the flag code. He will flip out if he sees something wrong with the way a flag is hanging or stored and if the word flag is mentioned don't expect him to stop talking until he tells you every single thing he knows about the American flag. A white supremacist militia could take over the country, bring back slavery, legalize rape, and require ritual sacrifice every Tuesday as long as they respected the physical flag and he would probably go about his life like nothing happened, unless of course he was sacrificed.


I bet there is a 99.83479834873847% chance that that guy is autistic.
 
2013-03-07 03:02:22 PM

r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.


CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!
 
2013-03-07 03:02:43 PM
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2013-03-07 03:04:16 PM
Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?
 
2013-03-07 03:05:34 PM

There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.  But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?  That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran


There I Was: StoPPeR


Texas V. Johnson

First Ammendment applies.
 
2013-03-07 03:06:02 PM

highwayrun: joeflood: Now that I think about it, they are doing the proper thing.  Flag etiquette dictates that one national flag should never fly above another, so if the Venezuelan flag is at half mast, all flags in the group should be at half mast.

That point of etiquette refers to not flying one above another on the same staff.


No, it doesn't.  Here's the text:

(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
 
2013-03-07 03:06:17 PM

TheBigJerk: Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?


I feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.
 
2013-03-07 03:07:04 PM

seadoo2006: You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

[www.kcconfidential.com image 413x413]


You the same people who cry bloody murder when a gay slur is uttered?
 
2013-03-07 03:12:40 PM

CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.


nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.
 
2013-03-07 03:12:55 PM

seadoo2006: ManicMechanic: "It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 397x295]

MERICA!

[galeri7.uludagsozluk.com image 720x588]


Actually there are flights leaving for other countries if Venezuela will not work for you.  Serious, just go.  We honestly don't care where.
 
2013-03-07 03:14:13 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: TheBigJerk: Say you have a wizard, and say he goes around finding 5-12 year old children with terminal cancer.  Say he cures them of terminal cancer, and then rapes them repeatedly over several years to "keep the cancer away with tantric energies."  Despite there being no evidence of them still having cancer and some of them getting cancer afterwards anyway.

Is that wizard good or bad?

I feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.


Maybe the wizard also feeds starving people coconuts, but force-feeds people coconuts even if they aren't starving or are allergic to coconuts?
 
2013-03-07 03:15:10 PM

StoPPeRmobile: There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.


/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.   But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?   That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran

There I Was: StoPPeR

Texas V. Johnson

First Ammendment applies.


Sigh.

My post was to refute your statement that flag etiquette (display of the flag, in this case) is not codified by law.

And damn, I wish I'd thought to mention the 1st amendment in my post.

BTW, your careful study of the law this semester has somehow missed out on the proper spelling of the word amendment.

But please, do go on.

/Texan, and you can V my Johnson
 
2013-03-07 03:16:17 PM
I'm sure the lefties were fine when the Chilean companies lowered their flags to honor Pinochet.

(To be honest, I don't think we should lower flags for any non-American leaders. We gonna lower the flag when the Queen dies too?)
 
2013-03-07 03:17:13 PM

hdhale: seadoo2006: ManicMechanic: "It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 397x295]

MERICA!

[galeri7.uludagsozluk.com image 720x588]

Actually there are flights leaving for other countries if Venezuela will not work for you.  Serious, just go.  We honestly don't care where.


I do ... whenever I like ... it's the brilliant ability of a dual citizen with Ireland.  At least when the sh*t hits the fan, I'll have a way out :)
 
2013-03-07 03:19:54 PM

Jairzinho: clane: Obama lost a good close friend yesterday
[www.homocreativus.es image 620x456]

So did Rumsfield back in 2006
[www.gwu.edu image 300x200]

Reagan in 1998
[cdn.historycommons.org image 331x220]

and Nixon in 1976
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]

All of them inconsolable I heard.

(I can play your stupid game too)


HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator
 
2013-03-07 03:20:04 PM
I change my mind. Who cares what they do? Feel free to boycott or buycott on your own individual decision.
 
2013-03-07 03:20:29 PM

skullkrusher: r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.

CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!


Well, they're not all doing it. Which begs the question, what kind of society throws a hissy fit over paying respect to the dead, even someone you don't like?
 
2013-03-07 03:20:41 PM

Cobataiwan: I'm sure the lefties were fine when


I'm sure the blanks were blank when blank happened is dumb. Stop saying it.
 
2013-03-07 03:20:56 PM

There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: There I Was: StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran

Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.   But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?   That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran

There I Was: StoPPeR

Texas V. Johnson

First Ammendment applies.

Sigh.

My post was to refute your statement that flag etiquette (display of the flag, in this case) is not codified by law.

And damn, I wish I'd thought to mention the 1st amendment in my post.

BTW, your careful study of the law this semester has somehow missed out on the proper spelling of the word amendment.

But please, do go on.

/Texan, and you can V my Johnson


 I saw that after I posted. Guess I was a bit too excited to know the exact case that applies, kinda. Laws are useless without punishment or remedy.

Students make mistakes. Go figure.
 
2013-03-07 03:22:06 PM

clane: HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator


Are you saying Obama does that? Or Chavez did that? Because the former is a stupid thing to say, and the latter is possibly true but irrelevant to your comparison.
 
2013-03-07 03:23:56 PM

Darth_Lukecash: United States damn ignorant of their crimes against South America.


But Freedom!

And Jesus! (he's my gardner, I pay him under the table.)
 
2013-03-07 03:24:55 PM

r1niceboy: skullkrusher: r1niceboy: The sole CITGO in my city has a US flag flying full. I'm calling bullshiat on this entire story, just as I do for anything printed in the US about Chavez or Venezuela.

CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company, released a statement explaining why the flags were lowered, confirming it was to honor Chavez, who died on Tuesday from cancer."

Crap, CITGO's in on the conspiracy too!

Well, they're not all doing it. Which begs the question, what kind of society throws a hissy fit over paying respect to the dead, even someone you don't like?


every society I'd imagine
 
2013-03-07 03:25:15 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: feel like coconuts should somehow be involved in this hypothetical situation.


And The Aristocrats.
 
2013-03-07 03:28:12 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: clane: HUGE difference is Reagan didnt run the country like a Dictator

Are you saying Obama does that? Or Chavez did that? Because the former is a stupid thing to say, and the latter is possibly true but irrelevant to your comparison.


I think he's saying that Nixon, Rumsfield, and Obama did that, as well as Chavez.  It made me chuckle.
 
2013-03-07 03:30:27 PM

skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.

nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.


When the thread is half-filled with know-nothing know-it-alls who haven't even read the goddamn flag code, but are SO SURE that some bullshiat interpretation they found on teh intarweb, or that their Uncle Gumbo told them when they were 9 years old, is correct, yeah I get a bit miffed.  Especially when it's so easy to google up the actual flag code.
 
2013-03-07 03:35:37 PM

CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: skullkrusher: CheekyMonkey: lostcat: I am not a flag-waving patriot by any stretch of the imagination, but even I find it ridiculous that a company would do something like this. Why would anyone think that lowering a country's flag to half mast over the death of another country's leader was OK?

Because we're not knee-jerk reactionary idiots like you.  Citgo is a Venezualan-owned company.  They can honor their dead leader if they choose, and flying a flag at half-staff is a pretty traditional way of doing that.  What's the big deal?

it's a violation of the Flag Code. Also, you'd expect them to lower the Venezuelan flag in honor of the Venezuelan President.
Additionally, meh

It's NOT a violation of the Flag Code.  Have you read it?  Likely not.  Here it is:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

After you've read it, please come back and specifically point out what section you think is being violated.

nah, google told me otherwise. I suppose it is in keeping with customs and not contrary to law. Still meh.
You are rather incensed though.

When the thread is half-filled with know-nothing know-it-alls who haven't even read the goddamn flag code, but are SO SURE that some bullshiat interpretation they found on teh intarweb, or that their Uncle Gumbo told them when they were 9 years old, is correct, yeah I get a bit miffed.  Especially when it's so easy to google up the actual flag code.


This is what I read:

"October 6, 2011. In memory of Steve Jobs, US flags were hung at half-staff at Apple headquarters and Disney World. Those two displays are not in accordance with the Flag Code. However, at Microsoft's headquarters, the US flag flew at full-staff, and the Microsoft corporate flag flew at half staff.
Section 7m authorizes the President, the Governor, and the Mayor of the District of Columbia to half-staff the US flag in certain circumstances.  "

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

No reason to get so upset, especially since I've indicated that I really don't have a strong opinion either way on this matter
 
2013-03-07 03:36:00 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Woops. Sorry mods. Didn't mean to get all up in an old fight.


Ditto.
 
2013-03-07 03:40:21 PM

basemetal: Meh, don't buy their gas if it offends you that much.


I don't and it doesn't. It's their flag, they can do what they want with it. It's not like it's going to bring him back from the dead....or is it?
 
2013-03-07 03:41:31 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.


I'm already popping the corn now.
 
2013-03-07 03:45:33 PM
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