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(Mega 949)   To honor the passing of Hugo Chavez, Citgo lowers flags to half-mast. The U.S. flag. Some people have a problem with this   (mega949.com) divider line 301
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2013-03-07 01:20:11 PM  
Bored white people problems.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:00 PM  
"CITGO, a Venezuelan owned company "

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2013-03-07 01:21:04 PM  

stonicus: They didn't lower the flag to half mast, they just doubled the size of the mast and left the flag where it was.
Problem solved.


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2013-03-07 01:21:15 PM  
Honestly this just emblifies what is good about our country.  We allow this kind of stuff.  Makes me happy to see, because it's a large part of why we do so well.  We don't care who you are or where you're from (for the most part), if you can make money, come and do it here.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:29 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I have a problem with people who have problems with flags.


Same here. I just don't get all this worship over a piece of cloth.

Having said that, Citgo should have known better.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:55 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I have a problem with people who have problems with flags.


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2013-03-07 01:22:07 PM  
Exemplifies I mean......derp.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:21 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


not...uh... not the point, dude. Not the point.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:33 PM  

indarwinsshadow: I'd post a picture of a momunent to Hugo...but I'd probably get banned. The guy was a steaming pile of dog crap, whose passing was a good thing. Why you ask...simple. The world needs less despot corrupt evil dictators. His death was a good start (hope it hurt). Probably a hundred or more to go and we'd be a better place.


With 6 billion on the planet I don't see how replacements will be a problem.

Oh, that's right, Roman Empire part II. Cool, I know that history quite well.
 
2013-03-07 01:23:24 PM  

joeflood: oh_please: joeflood:
Here we go  http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm


I thought there was also a rule to the order of the flags if there are more than one nation's flags flown. Something like American flag is always on the first pole (first from what, though?) or something. Or am I remembering wrong?
 
2013-03-07 01:23:47 PM  
Not liking Hugo Chavez is ok.  Being a right-winger is disturbing but possibly well-intended.  Equating, somehow, on a moral scale HC's rule with the brutal and genocidal and cleptocratic right-wing genuine dictators that the US has helped install in Latin America time and again is fantastic, ignorant and disingenuous.

The sad conclusion, if the NSDAP hasn't already driven the point home, is that propaganda works.
 
2013-03-07 01:23:50 PM  
Fark Venezuela.  Fark Chavez.  Fark Citgo. Fark everybody.

I need a nap.
 
2013-03-07 01:24:57 PM  
Well actually yes, there is a law for flag etiquette.  How the fark did any of you miss that?
 
2013-03-07 01:25:10 PM  

Necronic: Honestly this just emblifies what is good about our country.  We allow this kind of stuff.  Makes me happy to see, because it's a large part of why we do so well.  We don't care who you are or where you're from (for the most part), if you can make money, come and do it here.


yah so we can take it and give it too someone else who isn't good at making money

/Sorry, Hugo claimed to be a socialist, so it seem fitting I post that in his memory
 
2013-03-07 01:25:30 PM  
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2013-03-07 01:27:24 PM  
You just have to love good-ol American crybabies ... Jesus Farking Christ ... it's only a god damn flag ... stop getting your panties in a twist and dump the sand out of your collective vaginas.

www.kcconfidential.com
 
2013-03-07 01:27:35 PM  

chiett: signaljammer: http://truth-out.org/news/item/13453-the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez

The Crimes of Hugo Chavez :
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=331630&CategoryId=13303



'Facts' this is 'Opinion hit piece'.  I believe you two have met before.
 
2013-03-07 01:28:49 PM  

gunga galunga: I'm curious why that one farker who was sucking Hugo Chavez' dead dick in the first thread after his death hasn't made any other appearances.


There was?  I only recall a few right wing troll accounts claiming that everyone on the "left" loved Chavez.
 
2013-03-07 01:30:51 PM  

nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.


Respect and protocol. Respect for your country, your host state and the country of origin of the deceased. Protocol says only the US President can ask that you lower the US flag for a foreign dignitary. So, by lowering all three flags Citgo is breaching protocol and showing disrespect to the US, to Texas, and to Venezuela.

Should it be a raging, depfest, by "patriots"? Fark no, but it is an annoyance that nobody seems to understand formal protocol and respect anymore.
 
2013-03-07 01:32:51 PM  
No Citgo stations around here anyway, but I get 10 cents off Cumberland Farms, already pretty much the cheapest around (who buys from Gulf), so I do that.
 
2013-03-07 01:33:29 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

Respect and protocol. Respect for your country, your host state and the country of origin of the deceased. Protocol says only the US President can ask that you lower the US flag for a foreign dignitary. So, by lowering all three flags Citgo is breaching protocol and showing disrespect to the US, to Texas, and to Venezuela.

Should it be a raging, depfest, by "patriots"? Fark no, but it is an annoyance that nobody seems to understand formal protocol and respect anymore.


It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA!
 
2013-03-07 01:35:45 PM  

jake_lex: Yeah, 800 people marching on a location would be huge news. The guy who posted that is probably counting all of his personalities separately.


I'm assuming he meant "internet march" for his internet army, which likely means 4 or 5 idiots  he's fb friends with posting on Citgo's fb page.
 
2013-03-07 01:36:53 PM  

gravy chugging cretin.: Flying the flag upside down because Obama is in the White House is cool though.


It was cool when Bush was in office too. Some things are just timeless ya know?

/you need a tissue?
 
2013-03-07 01:37:19 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

Respect and protocol. Respect for your country, your host state and the country of origin of the deceased. Protocol says only the US President can ask that you lower the US flag for a foreign dignitary. So, by lowering all three flags Citgo is breaching protocol and showing disrespect to the US, to Texas, and to Venezuela.

Should it be a raging, depfest, by "patriots"? Fark no, but it is an annoyance that nobody seems to understand formal protocol and respect anymore.


Respect is for weak minded people.
 
2013-03-07 01:38:09 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Eewww. This whole thing. Just. Ewww. I sense a pointless argument coming.


Good thing Chavez didn't abort himself with a high-powered semi-automatic, amirate?
 
2013-03-07 01:39:39 PM  
I noticed that all the Americans that thought Chavez was a great leader moved to Venezuela to be part of the equalizing movement he created.
  I'm also sure the Billion dollars he amassed was only money he has protecting for the people.
 Please instead blame the USA for our past sins in South America instead of looking at the CURRENT news.
 
2013-03-07 01:41:04 PM  

DaWormyPimpsta: As a native Houstonian I would like to make the following statement about this Citgo/flag/Chavez situation:

"                                                              ".

And you can quote me on that.


Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.
 
2013-03-07 01:41:27 PM  
i'd be offended, but companies never do anything wrong, and the 1st Amendment says they can do it. I'm far more offended by people wearing the flag as clothing, frankly.
 
2013-03-07 01:42:59 PM  
"It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.
 
2013-03-07 01:44:48 PM  

chiett: I noticed that all the Americans that thought Chavez was a great leader moved to Venezuela to be part of the equalizing movement he created.
  I'm also sure the Billion dollars he amassed was only money he has protecting for the people.
 Please instead blame the USA for our past sins in South America instead of looking at the CURRENT news.


I think the bigger CURRENT news is that we spend 800x that amount for tanks, war ships, bombs, guns, and planes that will never fly to fight Achmed with a couple underwear bombs and pipe bombs.  Let me know how that's working for us.

Was Chavez a good guy? Some say yes, some say no, but certainly no worse than the guy that destabilized our economy to go re-right daddy's war in the great farking sandbox of the Middle East while amassing HUNE profits at companies like Haliburton, Lockheed, Boeing, and Blackwater.  Ah, so soon we forget.
 
2013-03-07 01:45:30 PM  
  "I gave them a call, and the operator told me that it was in observance and respect of the death of Hugo Chavez," Teddy told Matt Patrick on his afternoon show

Teddy wasn't satisfied with the company's explanation.


Who the fark is Teddy?  Is this like the Prince or the Madonna of Houston?
 
2013-03-07 01:45:46 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: nekom: tallguywithglasseson:
But yeah, Citgo, as TFA states The flag may only be lowered for the death of foreign dignitaries if indicated in Presidential instructions
You don't just lower the flag to half mast when you feel like it. shiat heads.

Why not? Flag etiquette is, to the best of my knowledge, not codified in law.

It's not.

/studying law this semester
//veteran


Study harder.

Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the U.S. Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag.  It's a federal law, but one without punitive measures for failing to comply with it.

Per this law, only the President, state governors, or the mayor of Washington DC can order half-masting of the flag.  But lowering it in this instance is speech covered by the 1st amendment.  Still a dick move IMO, but what are ya gonna do?  That's why the 1st amendment kicks ass.

/Not studying law, but proficient in WikiGoogle Fu
//Also a veteran
 
2013-03-07 01:46:14 PM  
I love how everyone focuses on Correa/Morales/Lula/Kirchner as the next champions of the left in Latin America, but no has said shiat about Mujica, whom I think he's not only the next latin american champion of the left, but also an example of humility while being a high-ranking politician.
 
2013-03-07 01:46:25 PM  
chavez - a great guy who beat & tortured his own people, amassed over 2 billion dollars, and bought citgo gas. Wow.
Glad he's dead. Wished he had died sooner.
 
2013-03-07 01:46:25 PM  

ManicMechanic: "It's a god damn annoyance that anyone still cares about a 6 square foot piece of cloth ... that every country bumpkin and their mother uses as toilet paper anyways ... 'MERICA! "

Not to ME and MILLIONS of others a**hole.  If it annoys or means nothing to you.  You need to leave and go back to Venezuela.  Wipe your butt on their flag.


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MERICA!

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2013-03-07 01:46:34 PM  
I have to wonder though if all those people banging on about the flag code actually know whats in it.   Like those little American flag napkins you like to bring out on the 4th of July, or that american flag shirt you wear to the rodeo?  Totally against flag code.

Ironically republicans violate the flag code on a more daily basis than anyone else simply by putting it on everything.  Which is strictly prohibited.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:28 PM  
Some people are easily offended douchebags.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:36 PM  
I bet the same people who are mad at this are the same ones who think companies are people
 
2013-03-07 01:47:59 PM  

SploogeTime: chavez - a great guy who beat & tortured his own people, amassed over 2 billion dollars, and bought citgo gas. Wow.
Glad he's dead. Wished he had died sooner.


Is that you Teddy?
 
2013-03-07 01:48:50 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: i'd be offended, but companies never do anything wrong, and the 1st Amendment says they can do it. I'm far more offended by people wearing the flag as clothing, frankly.


sarahpalininformation.files.wordpress.com

The bigger the flag the greater the love for the USA baby
 
2013-03-07 01:49:45 PM  
If I recall, Citgo lowered the flag to half-staff when Hitler died, too. That's right, HITLER.

/Also, HITLER.
 
2013-03-07 01:50:04 PM  

special20: Some Most people are easily offended douchebags.


To judge from newspapers, TV, Twitter, Facebook and here.
 
2013-03-07 01:50:55 PM  
Lake Charles has a giant CITGO refinery - the original from the early 1900s, IIRC. They sure got the local rednecks all riled up yesterday, not that it takes much around here.

/ said rednecks sure don't mind working there though
// doubt any of them bothered reading up on CITGOs history
 
2013-03-07 01:51:44 PM  
Now that Hugo is Tango Uniform, can I buy Citgo gas? I don't mind helping out the Venezuelan people if he's not benefiting anymore.
 
2013-03-07 01:52:13 PM  
Well, Citgo  is owned by Venezuela. They have a right to lower their flags as much as American companies have a right to lower their flags should their owner or President die. Any private citizen or corporation can lower its flags as a sign of respect to a departed former employee or notable. Happens all the time here in Ottawa. The Government lowers its flags for the death of Privy Council Clerks and other people who retired decades ago and are barely remembered in the public service let alone the Great Wide World. My usual response is to wonder who died. There's a slight chance I'll know if it was news.

I find many Americans get their knickers in a knot over flag etiquette too often. Much of this etiquette was originally informal and not official, then it applied only to government flags (I believe legislation has been passed extending some of it, but it is still a mixture of invention, custom and law).

American flags fly over every country on Earth (probably even North Korea when there is a formal state visit). Why fuss and feud over other people's flags? Sure, the US was insecure in the early days after the Revolution when they thought the British wanted to re-invade (rightly or wrongly, at least a little rightly) but there really is no sound reason in international law to object to the flying of foreign flags by private citizens to show their national pride, nor is there much reason to object to corporate bodies or countries which fly their flag according to the rules, such as over their own property, cars, or embassies or what not.

If you are flying flags out of national pride or for the tourist trade, it is good manners and good sense to fly the American flag and possibly some state or provincial flags as well to show you are making no territorial claims, however absurd that might be. I've seen the Welsh flag flying over Canadian residences, but am pretty sure we are under no threat of Welsh invasions unless they come up with the next Beatles, which seems unlikely since the Welsh can sing and play musical instruments.

Hey, stay calm and hang out more flags. Some of them are quite ornamental, and it's educational to fly as many of them as possible. I live in a national capital and I'm a little embarrassed and ashamed when I see a national flag I don't recognize. I should know them all. THEM ALL. Even Bhutan.
 
2013-03-07 01:52:31 PM  
The people in Columbus, Ohio took to the streets this morning singing Ding Dong the Dick is Dead - Which ol' Dick?  The Hugo Dick.


/Fark Sean Penn
 
2013-03-07 01:53:27 PM  

hockeychick: Half staff subby.  Half mast only applies when it's on a ship.


Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Haaaaa!
 
2013-03-07 01:53:30 PM  

basemetal: jaylectricity: Chavez, Citgo, and Venezuela give free heating oil to the poor, and limited income elderly in Massachusetts. That's at least $1000 a winter.



And also look at all the good Hitler did.


Human rights activists slam U.N. tribute to Chavez

UN Watch led the campaign against Venezuela's election to the UNHRC, brought Chavez victims to testify in the council, and organized the draft UN resolution condemning his abuses


Hugo Chávez Versus Human Rights

"the President and his legislative supporters have strengthened the state's capacity to limit free speech and created powerful incentives for self-censorship. They have, for example, expanded laws making "contempt" for government officials a criminal offense, increased prison sentences for criminal defamation, and abused the state's control of broadcasting frequencies to intimidate and discriminate against stations with overtly critical programming. While there are independent labor unions, the government has systematically violated workers' rights and fostered pro-government unions. There are dedicated human rights advocates. But they have been subjected to a virulent barrage of verbal assaults and even harassment by prosecutors."


Venezuela: Concentration and Abuse of Power Under Chávez

"For years, President Chávez and his followers have been building a system in which the government has free rein to threaten and punish Venezuelans who interfere with their political agenda," said José Miguel Vivanco, Americas director at Human Rights Watch. "Today that system is firmly entrenched, and the risks for judges, journalists, and rights defenders are greater than they've ever been under Chávez."
 
2013-03-07 01:53:52 PM  
Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunsetThe flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.The image of the flag may not be printed, embroidered or otherwise impressed on anything designed for temporary use and discard. This includes napkins, paper plates and cups, packaging or stampsNo part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform; flag patches are allowed as part of the uniform of a federal, state, civic or patriotic Many traditions here highly honored by car dealerships and country music stars nationwide.
 
2013-03-07 01:55:24 PM  

Necronic: Some other great parts of flag code to get offended over:

Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunsetThe flag should never be worn or used as bedding or drapery.The image of the flag may not be printed, embroidered or otherwise impressed on anything designed for temporary use and discard. This includes napkins, paper plates and cups, packaging or stampsNo part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform; flag patches are allowed as part of the uniform of a federal, state, civic or patriotic Many traditions here highly honored by car dealerships and country music stars nationwide.


It can be displayed at night if illuminated.
 
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