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2013-03-07 01:39:42 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Dancin_In_Anson: Son of a biatch shouldn't temp criminals by not doing so.

If it wasn't for dickheads like him, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?


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Sir, no Sir!
 
2013-03-07 01:39:59 PM

johnny_vegas: hmmmmm, a little conflicted (though I guess not really).  Guy is stealing your car, or your BBQ, no way should you be allowed to shoot.  Guy breaks into your house, I think i could see shooting him.  Guy breaks into house, but then leaves out back door, no way should you be allowed to shoot.

if he is on your property and his intent is unknown and he could pose a threat to you I can see shooting.


Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?
 
2013-03-07 01:40:43 PM

redmid17: Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?


There's a guy walking down the sidewalk.  What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?
 
2013-03-07 01:41:53 PM

hillbillypharmacist: redmid17: Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?

There's a guy walking down the sidewalk.  What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?


He'll probably keep walking. Walking down the sidewalk isn't a crime as far as I'm aware. Someone rooting around through my car a) isn't going to find much and b) probably won't come in my house, but I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.
 
2013-03-07 01:42:58 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.

I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Hypothetical U.S. situation, but a valid one: You're a traveling welder (or tow-truck driver), and your truck is your livlihood. You're the breadwinner in your family, as your wife stays at home to raise the kids and take care of the house while you're gone. Someone steals the vehicle (and equipment). You have insurance and the police that takes their sweet time to investigate (they all do), and you go without income for months. During that time, your house goes into foreclosure, your savings are exhausted, and your credit is wrecked.

Not worth a shot or five to protect your source of income?

Come on.

There's beeeding-heart, and then just flat-out stupid.


Insurance can cover all of that if you get the right policies.
Also, you shoot and kill someone, you think it's just a 5 minute conversation with the officer who shows up?  Hell no, you're gonna be answering questions for days and miss work for that.  You're going to still probably need a lawyer.  What about PTSD?  From what I understand, even people in perfectly legally justified situations struggle for a long long time with the fact they killed someone.  That won't affect your job performance?  That won't affect your relationship with your spouse or children or friends?  There's a lot to think about on both sides of this, and BANG BANG isn't a magical "problem all go away now" solution.
 
2013-03-07 01:43:27 PM

tallguywithglasseson: If it wasn't for dickheads like him, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?


I know, right? He should be made to eat a jelly donut while the rest of Berkley does push ups!
 
2013-03-07 01:43:50 PM
The sign assumes that people who steal can read.
 
2013-03-07 01:44:15 PM

stonicus: Sir, no Sir!


Damn! Didn't see that it had already been answered.
 
2013-03-07 01:45:49 PM

StrangeQ: Katolu: 

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?

For what?  Raising a piece of shiat thief?


I haven't seen it here (and, admittedly, I haven't looked very hard) but what about the thief's assumption of risk? They are committing a crime in a state where it is legal to shoot you if you commit that crime. By committing the crime the thief assumed that risk by his/her actions. No compensation necessary.
 
2013-03-07 01:46:43 PM

redmid17: johnny_vegas: hmmmmm, a little conflicted (though I guess not really).  Guy is stealing your car, or your BBQ, no way should you be allowed to shoot.  Guy breaks into your house, I think i could see shooting him.  Guy breaks into house, but then leaves out back door, no way should you be allowed to shoot.

if he is on your property and his intent is unknown and he could pose a threat to you I can see shooting.

Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?


1.  call cops
2.  tell him to get the fark out of the car
3a. he gets out and runs, let him go
3b. he has a weapon or gets out and comes towards you, shoot
3c. he ignores you, starts car, and prepares to drive off, tougher situation - your call
 
2013-03-07 01:47:19 PM

redmid17: I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.


That's fine, just so long as you don't think shooting the dude is appropriate because he's rooting around in your car.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:27 PM

stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.


In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.
 
2013-03-07 01:48:59 PM
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2013-03-07 01:49:10 PM

Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.


Just stay away from your daughter?
 
2013-03-07 01:50:19 PM
What, no apostrophe?
 
2013-03-07 01:51:31 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.

I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Hypothetical U.S. situation, but a valid one: You're a traveling welder (or tow-truck driver), and your truck is your livlihood. You're the breadwinner in your family, as your wife stays at home to raise the kids and take care of the house while you're gone. Someone steals the vehicle (and equipment). You have insurance and the police that takes their sweet time to investigate (they all do), and you go without income for months. During that time, your house goes into foreclosure, your savings are exhausted, and your credit is wrecked.

Not worth a shot or five to protect your source of income?

Come on.

There's beeeding-heart, and then just flat-out stupid.


Not wanting to kill someone over possessions has nothing to do with being a bleeding heart. Are your hypothetical 1-5 shots for the purpose of maiming or killing? What happens when one of your perfectly aimed shots goes through your neighbors wall and kills their hypothetical baby?
 
2013-03-07 01:51:39 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


If all theives were killed, it might just cut down on thefts.

/naw, wouldn't wanna do that...
 
2013-03-07 01:52:26 PM
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2013-03-07 01:52:29 PM

fredklein: If all theives were killed, it might just cut down on thefts.


You could stop jaywalking by cutting off all jaywalker's legs, too.
 
2013-03-07 01:52:50 PM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


Most theft in this country is linked to people trying to support drug habits, the industry most filled with people with chemical depndencies is the construction and building trades.  Ergo almost all of these thefts are inside jobs
 
2013-03-07 01:52:58 PM

stonicus: Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.

Just stay away from your daughter?


How's about that shower now???
 
2013-03-07 01:57:51 PM

hillbillypharmacist: redmid17: I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.

That's fine, just so long as you don't think shooting the dude is appropriate because he's rooting around in your car.


Never said I did. I was just trying to point out that sweeping statements are useless when there is that much uncertainty in the situation.
 
2013-03-07 01:57:53 PM
If the thief is 16 or under they should get 10 lashes in the public square along with their father. If the thief is over 16 then a bullet is the best solution to the inevitable burden they will place on society.
 
2013-03-07 02:01:04 PM
stonicus

I'm not saying killing a thief is the "end-all-be-all" solution. I did recommend getting "junkyard dogs" for this particular guy, after all.

BUT, there are material possessions worth protecting with deadly force. There always have been. We will never live in a societal Utopia, as some Farkers seem to think will soon exist.
 
2013-03-07 02:01:15 PM

redmid17: hillbillypharmacist: redmid17: I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.

That's fine, just so long as you don't think shooting the dude is appropriate because he's rooting around in your car.

Never said I did. I was just trying to point out that sweeping statements are useless when there is that much uncertainty in the situation.


Ah I see.  I misunderstood your intent.
 
2013-03-07 02:03:31 PM

deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.


Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.
 
2013-03-07 02:03:37 PM

stonicus: Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.

Just stay away from your daughter?


Son, thassa milkin machine an' it ain't gone stop till it's got 20 gallons!
 
2013-03-07 02:05:36 PM

hillbillypharmacist: fredklein: If all theives were killed, it might just cut down on thefts.

You could stop jaywalking by cutting off all jaywalker's legs, too.


Then they would be ticketing people for jayrolling.  Oh wait, you already go to jail for that in most places.
 
2013-03-07 02:06:43 PM

DubtodaIll: Then they would be ticketing people for jayrolling. Oh wait, you already go to jail for that in most places.


They put thieves in jail, too.  The more you know -~-~-~*
 
2013-03-07 02:08:03 PM

DubtodaIll: Then they would be ticketing people for jayrolling. Oh wait, you already go to jail for that in most places.


Just ignore that most recent post of mine.  I cannot read today seemingly.

YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR
 
2013-03-07 02:11:04 PM

fredklein: deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.


Do you live in New Vegas? Or some other post apocalyptic nightmare state?
 
2013-03-07 02:17:26 PM

Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.


And this justifies a death sentence with no due process whatsoever on the basis that you say so and want to kill someone because they did something that you are very cross about, or which is ' negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way '? Are you mental?
 
2013-03-07 02:20:01 PM
deanis

Yes, it IS a bleeding-heart mentality, whether you want to admit it or not.

I don't own, nor do I fear guns. But, you seem to be tucked into a blanket scared of some random bullet taking you out...one that was fired by a person trying to protect their possessions and livlihood.
 
2013-03-07 02:24:11 PM

Civil_War2_Time: stonicus

I'm not saying killing a thief is the "end-all-be-all" solution. I did recommend getting "junkyard dogs" for this particular guy, after all.

BUT, there are material possessions worth protecting with deadly force. There always have been. We will never live in a societal Utopia, as some Farkers seem to think will soon exist.


Jesus said otherwise, but you don't have to believe him, it's a free country.
 
2013-03-07 02:25:14 PM

fredklein: deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.


We'll see who gets into heaven.
 
2013-03-07 02:26:00 PM
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2013-03-07 02:28:24 PM

Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 200x225]But one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.


as proven by their worth in Black Ops II COD
 
2013-03-07 02:30:04 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis

Yes, it IS a bleeding-heart mentality, whether you want to admit it or not.

I don't own, nor do I fear guns. But, you seem to be tucked into a blanket scared of some random bullet taking you out...one that was fired by a person trying to protect their possessions and livlihood.


Bleeding hearts would be worried about the safety of the robbers, amirite? My argument is about the principle of killing someone over a possesion, not the well being of thieves who actually get shot.

By the way, your the assclown worried about the ooga booga robbers stealing your shiat. My comment about a hypothetical shooting was certainly ridiculous, in order to point out the stupidity of the original hypothetical statement directed my way.
 
2013-03-07 02:30:56 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Civil_War2_Time: stonicus

I'm not saying killing a thief is the "end-all-be-all" solution. I did recommend getting "junkyard dogs" for this particular guy, after all.

BUT, there are material possessions worth protecting with deadly force. There always have been. We will never live in a societal Utopia, as some Farkers seem to think will soon exist.

Jesus said otherwise, but you don't have to believe him, it's a free country.


The only "Jesus" I worship is a landscaper. He can edge like a madman, and that's some serious inherent talent that I totally respect.
 
2013-03-07 02:32:37 PM

Katolu: Endive Wombat: Katolu: Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?

But my car/stolen item holds sentimental value to me that cannot be equated in monetary terms.  Why should I have to?  It is not my problem that their family member chose to do something illegal and got killed in the process...

Why should I have to compensate a thief's family?  What, the family relied on stolen goods as a from of income, and now that I've taken out the main breadwinner, the family is now at a loss and has to find real jobs?

You were playing devil's advocate, I was taking the opposing devil's view. Does thievery call for death?


Where the thievery was intentional, yes
Those who break the social contract for personal gain are the rightful prey of those who obey it.
 
2013-03-07 02:35:09 PM

Securitywyrm: Those who break the social contract for personal gain are the rightful prey of those who obey it.


This is why we can't have nice things

/like the 4th amendment
 
2013-03-07 02:36:43 PM

stonicus: Insurance can cover all of that if you get the right policies.
Also, you shoot and kill someone, you think it's just a 5 minute conversation with the officer who shows up?  Hell no, you're gonna be answering questions for days and miss work for that.  You're going to still probably need a lawyer.  What about PTSD?  From what I understand, even people in perfectly legally justified situations struggle for a long long time with the fact they killed someone.  That won't affect your job performance?  That won't affect your relationship with your spouse or children or friends?  There's a lot to think about on both sides of this, and BANG BANG isn't a magical "problem all go away now" solution.


Sounds good. We should get rid of the police and just have everyone carry life insurance policies. Thus if someone kills you, you're compensated for it.

This isn't about "Shooting at them is what stops them." It is the POSSIBILITY that they will be shot that stops them from committing crimes.
There are two kinds of people who obey the law
1. Those who believe in the purpose of the law.
2. Those who fear punishment for breaking it.
And then there's a third category of people
3. Those who think the law is for suckers and they'll get an advantage breaking it.

The threat of violence pushes people from category #3 to #2. I don't care WHY someone is a law-abiding citizen, only that they are law-abiding citizens.
 
2013-03-07 02:37:29 PM

stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.


Certainly true. Interestingly, it seems to me the people MOST likely to have a "shoot thieves" mentality are hardscrabble bootstrappy blue collar types who grew up with very little and worked their ass off for whatever possessions they have. Trust fund babies with nice umbrella policies are rarely shooty types. Guys who bondo cars 14 hours a day to afford their fishing boat attach a little more personal significance to the item. And, having been raised with nothing, are unsympathetic to those who thieve instead of working hard to get things.

///Used to work at a body shop.
 
2013-03-07 02:38:00 PM

gaspode: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

And this justifies a death sentence with no due process whatsoever on the basis that you say so and want to kill someone because they did something that you are very cross about, or which is ' negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way '? Are you mental?


You must live a very comfortable life.
 
2013-03-07 02:38:07 PM

stonicus: Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.

Just stay away from your daughter?


I have cats, you can stay away or not, I don't care.  They can take care of themselves.  ;)
 
2013-03-07 02:40:17 PM
I think I'm going to put up a sign that says, "Trespassers will be violated".
 
2013-03-07 02:41:50 PM
Altitude5280: But one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.
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LOL...that's what I got when my place was burgled about a year after we bought it. We live out in the country where there are no street lights, and the county-mounties are a long ways away. So after my daughter surprised two would-be burglars attempting to break in I went down and got a $50 Shepherd from the pound. The old guy was so happy to leave that place he was my loyal sentinel for years. And when he passed I got two free Labs off Freecycle to replace him.

Got signs like this to make sure the message is out there...

www.arcatapet.com
 
2013-03-07 02:42:38 PM
This replaces his previous sign:  Please come steal my stuff, I have no fence or security system
 
2013-03-07 02:45:39 PM

Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 200x225]But one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.


I lived in a rough neighborhood in Philly and had two Rottweilers. Funny, nobody ever bothered with my house.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:41 PM
It amazes me how fast it goes from "I am able to use deadly force to protect my property" to "I can't wait to use deadly force to maybe protect my property but to definitely shoot someone!"

It is also amazing how people who have never shot someone are so eager to do so while people who have shot someone tend to have a little different perspective. Even people who "justifiably" shot someone tend not to be in the "I'll blast ya if you trespass on my land" crowd. It's almost like that crowd is over compensating by acting really tough and talking about how eager they are to shoot someone.
 
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