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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-07 09:26:56 AM
"It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?
 
2013-03-07 09:28:15 AM
"We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?
 
2013-03-07 09:32:19 AM
Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:21 AM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


You know theives always start small and work their way up. Next thing you know, they're stealing stadiums and quarries.
 
2013-03-07 10:06:51 AM
Suicide note by an Exxon station owner?
 
2013-03-07 10:30:41 AM
Okay, you know you need to get through training and orientation to enact justice as a Judge, right?

global.fncstatic.com
 
2013-03-07 11:10:10 AM
It might make them think twice.
 
2013-03-07 11:17:47 AM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


You are not dealing with the brightest bulb in the lot.
 
2013-03-07 11:34:21 AM
HA! I grew up with the station's anchor!
 
2013-03-07 11:41:51 AM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.
 
2013-03-07 11:48:22 AM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


21st-century horse thieves.

ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?


You have no chance to survive make your time!
 
2013-03-07 11:51:43 AM
When I'm shopping, I always look for the store with the "Thieves will be shot" sign.
I know the chances of being mistaken for a thief are pretty low, but I do like just a little bit of danger.
 
2013-03-07 11:56:13 AM
Soooo...premeditated murder?
 
2013-03-07 12:04:24 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.
 
2013-03-07 12:19:56 PM
So you're going to start shooting them now? What's been stopping you until now? Not having a giant road sign?
 
2013-03-07 12:23:51 PM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


It happens when you have a lot of inventory outside. Especially stuff with anything metal in it.

/ scrappers are pretty think; now-a-days
 
2013-03-07 12:24:21 PM

NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.


Yeah, a fence might be in order here. You won't stop all the theft, but a good fence will put a nice dent into it.
 
2013-03-07 12:24:24 PM

nekom: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

You know theives always start small and work their way up. Next thing you know, they're stealing stadiums and quarries.


images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Her first job was a potato chip that had the image of Jesus on it.
 
2013-03-07 12:24:32 PM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


It's fairly easy to steal these things with a truck and a trailer.  I would recommend getting a substantial locking gate instead of shooting people.  Also I would imagine that they're stealing these things at night when there's no one around with a gun anyway.  The cheapest option would be to get a large ill-tempered dog.
 
2013-03-07 12:24:56 PM

Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.


Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?
 
2013-03-07 12:25:30 PM
If they couldn't spot the thieves in the act of stealing the car, what makes them think that the warning would stop anyone?
 
2013-03-07 12:26:16 PM
Can I get that printed on a hoodie?
 
2013-03-07 12:26:20 PM

DubtodaIll: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

It's fairly easy to steal these things with a truck and a trailer.  I would recommend getting a substantial locking gate instead of shooting people.  Also I would imagine that they're stealing these things at night when there's no one around with a gun anyway.  The cheapest option would be to get a large ill-tempered dog.


Hmmm... automated turret?
 
2013-03-07 12:28:05 PM

ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?


Only if they stupidly report the murder to the police. Just dig the bullets out and dump the body on a disused road. If anyone knows what he was doing when he went missing, they won't talk to the police.
 
2013-03-07 12:29:54 PM

Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.


If I adopt your valuation that a radiator is worth a life, can I shoot you and just give a radiator as compensation?
 
2013-03-07 12:30:02 PM

NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.


A bullet costs about a dollar and a head on a pike serves as a warning to others.

Thieves are scum.
 
2013-03-07 12:30:26 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

 
2013-03-07 12:32:14 PM

labman: It might make them think twice.


Career criminals lack the ability to properly process risk versus reward. Until you fix that (which is possible) you're never going to stop them by increasing the severity of the potential consequences.

We live in a culture that tells us that objects are worth killing for. Is it any wonder then that we have lots of people who have no problem taking other peoples' objects by force? The two go hand in hand.
 
2013-03-07 12:33:50 PM
SHUT UP! BE HAPPY!

The comfort you've desired is now mandatory.
 
2013-03-07 12:34:29 PM
they removed the converters out from up under
 
2013-03-07 12:34:29 PM
That'll skittle those hoodlems.
 
2013-03-07 12:34:50 PM
How dare Obama infringe upon this man's right to put a bullet in another human being.
 
2013-03-07 12:34:58 PM

tallguywithglasseson: When I'm shopping, I always look for the store with the "Thieves will be shot" sign.
I know the chances of being mistaken for a thief are pretty low, but I do like just a little bit of danger.



I see you're bringing the white guy perspective.
 
2013-03-07 12:35:25 PM
Somebody working for him is stealing his shiat
 
2013-03-07 12:35:50 PM

Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?


Yeah, thieves rights and all that...
 
2013-03-07 12:36:33 PM

Brockalisk: I see you're bringing the white guy perspective.


[sad laugh]

Oh, for sure.
 
2013-03-07 12:36:35 PM

Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?


He'll probably let the keep the scrap value of the metal he gave the thief.
 
2013-03-07 12:37:01 PM
"... he has a night guard that watches over his business several times a week. He says thieves tend to target his business on either a rainy or foggy night."

Stay tuned for the inevitable follow-up stories of "Business owner accidentally shoots various employees, customers, and passers-by, mistaking them for thieves in the fog", or "Business owner accidentally shoots self while fumbling with gun while thief makes an easy getaway".
 
2013-03-07 12:37:56 PM
For 75K he could probably hire a security guard or two.
 
2013-03-07 12:38:04 PM
Someone should totally steal that sign!
 
2013-03-07 12:39:39 PM

Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?



I'm glad someone mentioned the family. Maybe if the family would teach their children it is wrong (and dangerous) to steal the property of others we wouldn't have this problem.
 
2013-03-07 12:40:57 PM
Good for him. Some people need to be reminded that actions have consequences.
 
2013-03-07 12:42:03 PM
Now the sign will get stolen and the name "Susan" will be spray painted  on the wall.
 
2013-03-07 12:42:10 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: they removed the converters out from up under


That is all up ons!
 
2013-03-07 12:42:15 PM

Gunslinger013: I'm glad someone mentioned the family. Maybe if the family would teach their children it is wrong (and dangerous) to steal the property of others we wouldn't have this problem.


FARK YOU AND YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!
 
2013-03-07 12:42:24 PM

NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.


I've seen the sign, he has a fence.

Recently, someone in a nearby town was acquitted for firing and missing at someone driving off with their car stereo.
 
2013-03-07 12:42:33 PM

Gunslinger013: Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?


I'm glad someone mentioned the family. Maybe if the family would teach their children it is wrong (and dangerous) to steal the property of others we wouldn't have this problem.



Also, this.
 
2013-03-07 12:43:35 PM
Congrats, business owner!  You just upped the chances of you going to jail if you ever do shoot anyone.

"I was in fear of my life, so I shot him."
"We don't believe you because you've previously bragged you'd shoot any thief just for stealing, so hope you like prison rape."
 
2013-03-07 12:45:12 PM

Katolu: Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?


But my car/stolen item holds sentimental value to me that cannot be equated in monetary terms.  Why should I have to?  It is not my problem that their family member chose to do something illegal and got killed in the process...

Why should I have to compensate a thief's family?  What, the family relied on stolen goods as a from of income, and now that I've taken out the main breadwinner, the family is now at a loss and has to find real jobs?
 
2013-03-07 12:45:35 PM

NeoCortex42: For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security systembig dog.


Fixed
 
2013-03-07 12:46:03 PM

NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.


I drive by this place every day. Lots of big equipment, no fence and only a flimsy gate.

/the sign makes me laugh every day.
 
2013-03-07 12:46:28 PM
I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.
 
2013-03-07 12:47:26 PM

kingoomieiii: Okay, you know you need to get through training and orientation to enact justice as a Judge, right?

[global.fncstatic.com image 660x371]


Perhaps the owner is psychic. I understand the requirements to be somewhat relaxed for such individuals.
 
2013-03-07 12:49:33 PM

Okieboy: Someone should totally steal that sign!


It is one of the road side signs. Just hook up to a truck.
 
2013-03-07 12:49:34 PM

NeoCortex42: For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.



liltingbanshee: For 75K he could probably hire a security guard or two.


Son of a biatch shouldn't temp criminals by not doing so.
 
2013-03-07 12:51:50 PM

liltingbanshee: For 75K he could probably hire a security guard or two.


That's 12/day and 24/day on weekends.  At $10/hr that's about $1,000/week for one unarmed guard - guards with two arms cost more.

Shoot the thieves and put a sign where each one died that says last thief died here, want to be next?
 
2013-03-07 12:52:27 PM

Okieboy: Someone should totally steal that sign!


Ha! The guy didn't say thieves would be killed. He just said they'd be shot. There is a difference, you know...
 
2013-03-07 12:53:24 PM
They're not called "Junkyard Dogs" because they're tame. And, there are plenty that you can adopt and save from being put down.

Just an idea that's been around for decades.
 
2013-03-07 12:55:04 PM

BAMFinator: NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.

I drive by this place every day. Lots of big equipment, no fence and only a flimsy gate.

/the sign makes me laugh every day.


What is the gate attached to?  Is it just free standing and no one bothers to open it and just goes around?  You might as well put tape on the floor and ask everyone to treat the tapeline like your office walls.
 
2013-03-07 12:55:18 PM

enik: Good for him. Some people need to be reminded that actions have consequences.


Yar, this.

If he could guarantee that the only people he'd be shooting would be thieves, I'd be 100% okay with this.  As it stands... enh, I'm still about 85% okay with this.
 
2013-03-07 12:55:45 PM

deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.


So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?
 
2013-03-07 12:58:51 PM
When you put up a statement like that and end up shooting someone, isn't that considered pre-meditated murder?
 
2013-03-07 01:00:21 PM

deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.


You sound fat.
 
2013-03-07 01:03:52 PM

Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?


That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.
 
2013-03-07 01:04:37 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


No, it's not.  Chopping off a hand is the right punishment for stealing a car.  Or maybe the perp's right foot.
 
2013-03-07 01:07:16 PM

Glancing Blow: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

You sound fat.


That's impossible because there is a sign posted in my neighborhood that states "fattys shot on sight"
 
2013-03-07 01:08:46 PM

deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.


So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.
 
2013-03-07 01:09:40 PM

Endive Wombat: Katolu: Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?

But my car/stolen item holds sentimental value to me that cannot be equated in monetary terms.  Why should I have to?  It is not my problem that their family member chose to do something illegal and got killed in the process...

Why should I have to compensate a thief's family?  What, the family relied on stolen goods as a from of income, and now that I've taken out the main breadwinner, the family is now at a loss and has to find real jobs?


You were playing devil's advocate, I was taking the opposing devil's view. Does thievery call for death?
 
2013-03-07 01:10:09 PM

deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.


What if your life, or a loved ones depended on the very item(s) they are taking?  Medicine, some kind of medical equipment?
 
2013-03-07 01:12:25 PM
Man, this thread is internet tough.
 
2013-03-07 01:13:58 PM

Katolu: Does thievery call for death?


In 99.9999% of thefts, no.  Unless someone's life is dependent on the very item they are taking from you and using violence against you... basically if it is going to come down to "one dies, one lives" no matter what situation...
 
2013-03-07 01:14:30 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


Try and steal my car, and we'll find out, won't we?

I don't care what it is you think you are going to take from me, I am simply not going to allow it if I have a choice.  I have several choices, which caliber do you prefer?  Personally I like the .50 Flint lock.  It's stylish and saves time with balistics.

You're a thieving piece of trash, we have a lot of those, I can't imagine why their life should be precious?
 
2013-03-07 01:16:34 PM

Endive Wombat: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

What if your life, or a loved ones depended on the very item(s) they are taking?  Medicine, some kind of medical equipment?


That is very different. The story talks about farking cars and auto parts dipshiat. Now your talking about medical equipment that someones life depends on. It seems we have a apples to oranges thing going here.
 
2013-03-07 01:16:36 PM

labman: It might make them think twice.


OH, no doubt - criminals are famous for their ability to reflect upon the possible consequences of their actions.
And it it might make them "think twice" - to bring a gun of their own with them, and some armed buddies.
 
2013-03-07 01:17:59 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.


I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.
 
2013-03-07 01:18:33 PM

jso2897: labman: It might make them think twice.

OH, no doubt - criminals are famous for their ability to reflect upon the possible consequences of their actions.
And it it might make them "think twice" - to bring a gun of their own with them, and some armed buddies.


And then they'll think about what hard work that is.

And then they'll go get jobs.

And then they'll be productive members of society?
 
2013-03-07 01:19:04 PM

DubtodaIll: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

It's fairly easy to steal these things with a truck and a trailer.  I would recommend getting a substantial locking gate instead of shooting people.  Also I would imagine that they're stealing these things at night when there's no one around with a gun anyway.  The cheapest option would be to get a large ill-tempered dog.



 Go up to the fence at night,get the dogs attention,when it runs up to the fence and starts barking and foaming you stick the barrell of a 22. rifle through the fence.Then the dog bites the barrell.
 I was told(and it sounds pretty clever)that a couple of flightless geese living in the lot at night is a better deterent as they wont engage a thief but will run around making all kinds of loud ,obnoxious noise.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:40 PM

Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.


If you wake up tomorrow and someone is trying to steal your car and you shoot them, you're still gonna miss work that day.
 
2013-03-07 01:21:56 PM

deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.


And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:59 PM
So what's the owner's Fark handle?
 
2013-03-07 01:23:16 PM

Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.


I agree and when tools and equipment are stolen, I.e. a persons livelihood, I think the value of lost work should be factored into the value of the loss if and when the thieves are caught and be a consideration in the sentencing. I also think that if a person is caught n possession of a stolen gun that should be all three strikes.
 
2013-03-07 01:23:21 PM

deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

What if your life, or a loved ones depended on the very item(s) they are taking?  Medicine, some kind of medical equipment?

That is very different. The story talks about farking cars and auto parts dipshiat. Now your talking about medical equipment that someones life depends on. It seems we have a apples to oranges thing going here.


And I am talking about general possessions.  See my Boobies for reference.  And I was asking YOU where the tipping point was in choosing to take another's life when theft is involved.
 
2013-03-07 01:24:24 PM

lack of warmth: BAMFinator: NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.

I drive by this place every day. Lots of big equipment, no fence and only a flimsy gate.

/the sign makes me laugh every day.

What is the gate attached to?  Is it just free standing and no one bothers to open it and just goes around?  You might as well put tape on the floor and ask everyone to treat the tapeline like your office walls.



thegazette.com

sees what you did there.

/hot
 
2013-03-07 01:25:12 PM

deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life.


Well, there's 6+ billion people in the world, but only 100 million copies of this comic book some guy tried to steal!
 
2013-03-07 01:25:29 PM
Get a dog and teach him to sic balls.
Name him Chopper.
The command should be "Chopper, sic balls."
 
2013-03-07 01:26:56 PM

ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?


Well living in SC can be considered punishment, so I imagine at your sentencing the judge might count your years of SC citizenship as time served.
 
2013-03-07 01:28:13 PM

notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.


Of course stealing is unethical, nobody has ever argued that it wasn't. I'm pretty sure that nobody expressed remorse for said robbers. However, the notion that someone should die for stealing a car is about as dumb as the sign this guy put up. There are places that use extreme violence for punishment of theft. Maybe you should take residence there.
 
2013-03-07 01:28:37 PM

notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.


Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.
 
2013-03-07 01:29:20 PM
ZAZ:  "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."
Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?


Only if those thieves are black.
 
2013-03-07 01:30:26 PM
Latinwolf: ZAZ:  "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."
Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?
Only if those thieves aren't black.


My bad
 
2013-03-07 01:31:16 PM

Endive Wombat: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

What if your life, or a loved ones depended on the very item(s) they are taking?  Medicine, some kind of medical equipment?

That is very different. The story talks about farking cars and auto parts dipshiat. Now your talking about medical equipment that someones life depends on. It seems we have a apples to oranges thing going here.

And I am talking about general possessions.  See my Boobies for reference.  And I was asking YOU where the tipping point was in choosing to take another's life when theft is involved.


Of my current possessions, I would say my home is the only thing I would defend to the death. And, I don't want to see your boobies.
 
2013-03-07 01:32:37 PM

Endive Wombat: Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?


Well, I've changed your Farky from 'weirdo' to 'idiot'.  It's been coming, and today was the day.
 
2013-03-07 01:33:05 PM
Can't wait for someone to hack the sign to say "Free Stuff"
 
2013-03-07 01:33:07 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Son of a biatch shouldn't temp criminals by not doing so.


If it wasn't for dickheads like him, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
 
2013-03-07 01:34:00 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Congrats, business owner!  You just upped the chances of you going to jail if you ever do shoot anyone.

"I was in fear of my life, so I shot him."
"We don't believe you because you've previously bragged you'd shoot any thief just for stealing, so hope you like prison rape."


South Carolina lets you use lethal force to prevent violent crime. First degree burglary is explicitly listed as a violent crime in SC law. First degree criminal burglary line is crossed if it occurs at night time:

FTA: "Nichols says he has a night guard that watches over his business several times a week. He says thieves tend to target his business on either a rainy or foggy night."

1st degree

(A) A person is guilty of burglary in the first degree if the person enters a dwelling without consent and with intent to commit a crime in the dwelling, and either:  [snipped for brevity]

(3) the entering or remaining occurs in the nighttime.


 ----------


Seems like he's in the clear to me.
 
2013-03-07 01:34:44 PM

Katolu: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?


For what?  Raising a piece of shiat thief?
 
2013-03-07 01:36:12 PM
how do we know this guy ain't running an insurance scam. PUT UP A FENCE.
2nd I got no problem with someone defending themselves or their property. I also think that deadly force should only be used when your or someone eleses life is in danger. That being said I noticed this from the article. "As for if they ever will? "Well, we hope that doesn't happen," said Nichols with a smile."
Notice the smile part sounds like this guy WANTS to shoot someone.
 
2013-03-07 01:36:33 PM
I can't get TFA to reload, but did I read that the sign had been there for three months, but the last robbery was two weeks ago?

You're gonna need a bigger sign...
 
2013-03-07 01:36:38 PM

deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.

I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.


Hypothetical U.S. situation, but a valid one: You're a traveling welder (or tow-truck driver), and your truck is your livlihood. You're the breadwinner in your family, as your wife stays at home to raise the kids and take care of the house while you're gone. Someone steals the vehicle (and equipment). You have insurance and the police that takes their sweet time to investigate (they all do), and you go without income for months. During that time, your house goes into foreclosure, your savings are exhausted, and your credit is wrecked.

Not worth a shot or five to protect your source of income?

Come on.

There's beeeding-heart, and then just flat-out stupid.
 
2013-03-07 01:37:28 PM
hmmmmm, a little conflicted (though I guess not really).  Guy is stealing your car, or your BBQ, no way should you be allowed to shoot.  Guy breaks into your house, I think i could see shooting him.  Guy breaks into house, but then leaves out back door, no way should you be allowed to shoot.

if he is on your property and his intent is unknown and he could pose a threat to you I can see shooting.
 
2013-03-07 01:39:42 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Dancin_In_Anson: Son of a biatch shouldn't temp criminals by not doing so.

If it wasn't for dickheads like him, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?


www.dvd.nl
Sir, no Sir!
 
2013-03-07 01:39:59 PM

johnny_vegas: hmmmmm, a little conflicted (though I guess not really).  Guy is stealing your car, or your BBQ, no way should you be allowed to shoot.  Guy breaks into your house, I think i could see shooting him.  Guy breaks into house, but then leaves out back door, no way should you be allowed to shoot.

if he is on your property and his intent is unknown and he could pose a threat to you I can see shooting.


Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?
 
2013-03-07 01:40:43 PM

redmid17: Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?


There's a guy walking down the sidewalk.  What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?
 
2013-03-07 01:41:53 PM

hillbillypharmacist: redmid17: Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?

There's a guy walking down the sidewalk.  What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?


He'll probably keep walking. Walking down the sidewalk isn't a crime as far as I'm aware. Someone rooting around through my car a) isn't going to find much and b) probably won't come in my house, but I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.
 
2013-03-07 01:42:58 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.

I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Hypothetical U.S. situation, but a valid one: You're a traveling welder (or tow-truck driver), and your truck is your livlihood. You're the breadwinner in your family, as your wife stays at home to raise the kids and take care of the house while you're gone. Someone steals the vehicle (and equipment). You have insurance and the police that takes their sweet time to investigate (they all do), and you go without income for months. During that time, your house goes into foreclosure, your savings are exhausted, and your credit is wrecked.

Not worth a shot or five to protect your source of income?

Come on.

There's beeeding-heart, and then just flat-out stupid.


Insurance can cover all of that if you get the right policies.
Also, you shoot and kill someone, you think it's just a 5 minute conversation with the officer who shows up?  Hell no, you're gonna be answering questions for days and miss work for that.  You're going to still probably need a lawyer.  What about PTSD?  From what I understand, even people in perfectly legally justified situations struggle for a long long time with the fact they killed someone.  That won't affect your job performance?  That won't affect your relationship with your spouse or children or friends?  There's a lot to think about on both sides of this, and BANG BANG isn't a magical "problem all go away now" solution.
 
2013-03-07 01:43:27 PM

tallguywithglasseson: If it wasn't for dickheads like him, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?


I know, right? He should be made to eat a jelly donut while the rest of Berkley does push ups!
 
2013-03-07 01:43:50 PM
The sign assumes that people who steal can read.
 
2013-03-07 01:44:15 PM

stonicus: Sir, no Sir!


Damn! Didn't see that it had already been answered.
 
2013-03-07 01:45:49 PM

StrangeQ: Katolu: 

Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?

For what?  Raising a piece of shiat thief?


I haven't seen it here (and, admittedly, I haven't looked very hard) but what about the thief's assumption of risk? They are committing a crime in a state where it is legal to shoot you if you commit that crime. By committing the crime the thief assumed that risk by his/her actions. No compensation necessary.
 
2013-03-07 01:46:43 PM

redmid17: johnny_vegas: hmmmmm, a little conflicted (though I guess not really).  Guy is stealing your car, or your BBQ, no way should you be allowed to shoot.  Guy breaks into your house, I think i could see shooting him.  Guy breaks into house, but then leaves out back door, no way should you be allowed to shoot.

if he is on your property and his intent is unknown and he could pose a threat to you I can see shooting.

Okay. He's in my car rooting around on my property. What else is he going to do after that? If you know, will you tell me in real time so I don't have to worry?


1.  call cops
2.  tell him to get the fark out of the car
3a. he gets out and runs, let him go
3b. he has a weapon or gets out and comes towards you, shoot
3c. he ignores you, starts car, and prepares to drive off, tougher situation - your call
 
2013-03-07 01:47:19 PM

redmid17: I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.


That's fine, just so long as you don't think shooting the dude is appropriate because he's rooting around in your car.
 
2013-03-07 01:47:27 PM

stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.


In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.
 
2013-03-07 01:48:59 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 01:49:10 PM

Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.


Just stay away from your daughter?
 
2013-03-07 01:50:19 PM
What, no apostrophe?
 
2013-03-07 01:51:31 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Endive Wombat: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?

That's my point, it would never cross my mind to take someones life for stealing. I would certainly try and injure them, but murder? No thanks bruh.

I suppose if they hatched a plan to take my home off of it's foundation I would think about it. But other than that there isn't much in the world that I give that much of a shiat about. Well maybe my records but that's it.

So, if someone came to steal your house or "records," is killing them considered "murder" in any country on Earth?

Nope.

I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Hypothetical U.S. situation, but a valid one: You're a traveling welder (or tow-truck driver), and your truck is your livlihood. You're the breadwinner in your family, as your wife stays at home to raise the kids and take care of the house while you're gone. Someone steals the vehicle (and equipment). You have insurance and the police that takes their sweet time to investigate (they all do), and you go without income for months. During that time, your house goes into foreclosure, your savings are exhausted, and your credit is wrecked.

Not worth a shot or five to protect your source of income?

Come on.

There's beeeding-heart, and then just flat-out stupid.


Not wanting to kill someone over possessions has nothing to do with being a bleeding heart. Are your hypothetical 1-5 shots for the purpose of maiming or killing? What happens when one of your perfectly aimed shots goes through your neighbors wall and kills their hypothetical baby?
 
2013-03-07 01:51:39 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


If all theives were killed, it might just cut down on thefts.

/naw, wouldn't wanna do that...
 
2013-03-07 01:52:26 PM
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2013-03-07 01:52:29 PM

fredklein: If all theives were killed, it might just cut down on thefts.


You could stop jaywalking by cutting off all jaywalker's legs, too.
 
2013-03-07 01:52:50 PM

loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?


Most theft in this country is linked to people trying to support drug habits, the industry most filled with people with chemical depndencies is the construction and building trades.  Ergo almost all of these thefts are inside jobs
 
2013-03-07 01:52:58 PM

stonicus: Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.

Just stay away from your daughter?


How's about that shower now???
 
2013-03-07 01:57:51 PM

hillbillypharmacist: redmid17: I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.

That's fine, just so long as you don't think shooting the dude is appropriate because he's rooting around in your car.


Never said I did. I was just trying to point out that sweeping statements are useless when there is that much uncertainty in the situation.
 
2013-03-07 01:57:53 PM
If the thief is 16 or under they should get 10 lashes in the public square along with their father. If the thief is over 16 then a bullet is the best solution to the inevitable burden they will place on society.
 
2013-03-07 02:01:04 PM
stonicus

I'm not saying killing a thief is the "end-all-be-all" solution. I did recommend getting "junkyard dogs" for this particular guy, after all.

BUT, there are material possessions worth protecting with deadly force. There always have been. We will never live in a societal Utopia, as some Farkers seem to think will soon exist.
 
2013-03-07 02:01:15 PM

redmid17: hillbillypharmacist: redmid17: I'd prefer they weren't committing a crime in the first place.

That's fine, just so long as you don't think shooting the dude is appropriate because he's rooting around in your car.

Never said I did. I was just trying to point out that sweeping statements are useless when there is that much uncertainty in the situation.


Ah I see.  I misunderstood your intent.
 
2013-03-07 02:03:31 PM

deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.


Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.
 
2013-03-07 02:03:37 PM

stonicus: Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.

Just stay away from your daughter?


Son, thassa milkin machine an' it ain't gone stop till it's got 20 gallons!
 
2013-03-07 02:05:36 PM

hillbillypharmacist: fredklein: If all theives were killed, it might just cut down on thefts.

You could stop jaywalking by cutting off all jaywalker's legs, too.


Then they would be ticketing people for jayrolling.  Oh wait, you already go to jail for that in most places.
 
2013-03-07 02:06:43 PM

DubtodaIll: Then they would be ticketing people for jayrolling. Oh wait, you already go to jail for that in most places.


They put thieves in jail, too.  The more you know -~-~-~*
 
2013-03-07 02:08:03 PM

DubtodaIll: Then they would be ticketing people for jayrolling. Oh wait, you already go to jail for that in most places.


Just ignore that most recent post of mine.  I cannot read today seemingly.

YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR
 
2013-03-07 02:11:04 PM

fredklein: deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.


Do you live in New Vegas? Or some other post apocalyptic nightmare state?
 
2013-03-07 02:17:26 PM

Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.


And this justifies a death sentence with no due process whatsoever on the basis that you say so and want to kill someone because they did something that you are very cross about, or which is ' negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way '? Are you mental?
 
2013-03-07 02:20:01 PM
deanis

Yes, it IS a bleeding-heart mentality, whether you want to admit it or not.

I don't own, nor do I fear guns. But, you seem to be tucked into a blanket scared of some random bullet taking you out...one that was fired by a person trying to protect their possessions and livlihood.
 
2013-03-07 02:24:11 PM

Civil_War2_Time: stonicus

I'm not saying killing a thief is the "end-all-be-all" solution. I did recommend getting "junkyard dogs" for this particular guy, after all.

BUT, there are material possessions worth protecting with deadly force. There always have been. We will never live in a societal Utopia, as some Farkers seem to think will soon exist.


Jesus said otherwise, but you don't have to believe him, it's a free country.
 
2013-03-07 02:25:14 PM

fredklein: deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.


We'll see who gets into heaven.
 
2013-03-07 02:26:00 PM
img.photobucket.comBut one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.
 
2013-03-07 02:28:24 PM

Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 200x225]But one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.


as proven by their worth in Black Ops II COD
 
2013-03-07 02:30:04 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis

Yes, it IS a bleeding-heart mentality, whether you want to admit it or not.

I don't own, nor do I fear guns. But, you seem to be tucked into a blanket scared of some random bullet taking you out...one that was fired by a person trying to protect their possessions and livlihood.


Bleeding hearts would be worried about the safety of the robbers, amirite? My argument is about the principle of killing someone over a possesion, not the well being of thieves who actually get shot.

By the way, your the assclown worried about the ooga booga robbers stealing your shiat. My comment about a hypothetical shooting was certainly ridiculous, in order to point out the stupidity of the original hypothetical statement directed my way.
 
2013-03-07 02:30:56 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Civil_War2_Time: stonicus

I'm not saying killing a thief is the "end-all-be-all" solution. I did recommend getting "junkyard dogs" for this particular guy, after all.

BUT, there are material possessions worth protecting with deadly force. There always have been. We will never live in a societal Utopia, as some Farkers seem to think will soon exist.

Jesus said otherwise, but you don't have to believe him, it's a free country.


The only "Jesus" I worship is a landscaper. He can edge like a madman, and that's some serious inherent talent that I totally respect.
 
2013-03-07 02:32:37 PM

Katolu: Endive Wombat: Katolu: Insurance will compensate you for your loss. Will you compensate the family of the person you kill?

But my car/stolen item holds sentimental value to me that cannot be equated in monetary terms.  Why should I have to?  It is not my problem that their family member chose to do something illegal and got killed in the process...

Why should I have to compensate a thief's family?  What, the family relied on stolen goods as a from of income, and now that I've taken out the main breadwinner, the family is now at a loss and has to find real jobs?

You were playing devil's advocate, I was taking the opposing devil's view. Does thievery call for death?


Where the thievery was intentional, yes
Those who break the social contract for personal gain are the rightful prey of those who obey it.
 
2013-03-07 02:35:09 PM

Securitywyrm: Those who break the social contract for personal gain are the rightful prey of those who obey it.


This is why we can't have nice things

/like the 4th amendment
 
2013-03-07 02:36:43 PM

stonicus: Insurance can cover all of that if you get the right policies.
Also, you shoot and kill someone, you think it's just a 5 minute conversation with the officer who shows up?  Hell no, you're gonna be answering questions for days and miss work for that.  You're going to still probably need a lawyer.  What about PTSD?  From what I understand, even people in perfectly legally justified situations struggle for a long long time with the fact they killed someone.  That won't affect your job performance?  That won't affect your relationship with your spouse or children or friends?  There's a lot to think about on both sides of this, and BANG BANG isn't a magical "problem all go away now" solution.


Sounds good. We should get rid of the police and just have everyone carry life insurance policies. Thus if someone kills you, you're compensated for it.

This isn't about "Shooting at them is what stops them." It is the POSSIBILITY that they will be shot that stops them from committing crimes.
There are two kinds of people who obey the law
1. Those who believe in the purpose of the law.
2. Those who fear punishment for breaking it.
And then there's a third category of people
3. Those who think the law is for suckers and they'll get an advantage breaking it.

The threat of violence pushes people from category #3 to #2. I don't care WHY someone is a law-abiding citizen, only that they are law-abiding citizens.
 
2013-03-07 02:37:29 PM

stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.


Certainly true. Interestingly, it seems to me the people MOST likely to have a "shoot thieves" mentality are hardscrabble bootstrappy blue collar types who grew up with very little and worked their ass off for whatever possessions they have. Trust fund babies with nice umbrella policies are rarely shooty types. Guys who bondo cars 14 hours a day to afford their fishing boat attach a little more personal significance to the item. And, having been raised with nothing, are unsympathetic to those who thieve instead of working hard to get things.

///Used to work at a body shop.
 
2013-03-07 02:38:00 PM

gaspode: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

And this justifies a death sentence with no due process whatsoever on the basis that you say so and want to kill someone because they did something that you are very cross about, or which is ' negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way '? Are you mental?


You must live a very comfortable life.
 
2013-03-07 02:38:07 PM

stonicus: Kahabut: stonicus: notatrollorami: deanis: I love all the internet tough guys that jump into these kinds of threads and argue to the death that personal property > life." I swear to God dang nabit, if I catch one 'dem burglars takin' my catalytic converters im gonna let him taste my AR-15."


Fark y'all.

And I, a guy with no guns and ambivalent feelings about them, love all the internet pussies that swarm these threads with "life>property" as if that is the ONLY ethical question in play and stealing things is some minor annoyance that can't be helped and thieves themselves are unfortunate misguided little scamps.

Some are.  Some aren't.
Some people are born into shiat circumstances and thievery is their best chance at survival.
Some people are born into privilege and opportunity and still decide to turn to thievery for whatever reason.

In either case, or any other, they made their choice.

I made mine.  So if you don't steal from me, I won't shoot at you.  It seems like a reasonable arrangement.

But if you show up on my door step and say you are hungry and need a place to sleep, I will feed you and give you a place to sleep.  Because that's what people are supposed to do for each other, and my parents taught my honor, along with how to shoot a gun.

Just stay away from your daughter?


I have cats, you can stay away or not, I don't care.  They can take care of themselves.  ;)
 
2013-03-07 02:40:17 PM
I think I'm going to put up a sign that says, "Trespassers will be violated".
 
2013-03-07 02:41:50 PM
Altitude5280: But one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.
img.photobucket.com

LOL...that's what I got when my place was burgled about a year after we bought it. We live out in the country where there are no street lights, and the county-mounties are a long ways away. So after my daughter surprised two would-be burglars attempting to break in I went down and got a $50 Shepherd from the pound. The old guy was so happy to leave that place he was my loyal sentinel for years. And when he passed I got two free Labs off Freecycle to replace him.

Got signs like this to make sure the message is out there...

www.arcatapet.com
 
2013-03-07 02:42:38 PM
This replaces his previous sign:  Please come steal my stuff, I have no fence or security system
 
2013-03-07 02:45:39 PM

Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 200x225]But one of these are FAR more entertaining. And they work for kibble.


I lived in a rough neighborhood in Philly and had two Rottweilers. Funny, nobody ever bothered with my house.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:41 PM
It amazes me how fast it goes from "I am able to use deadly force to protect my property" to "I can't wait to use deadly force to maybe protect my property but to definitely shoot someone!"

It is also amazing how people who have never shot someone are so eager to do so while people who have shot someone tend to have a little different perspective. Even people who "justifiably" shot someone tend not to be in the "I'll blast ya if you trespass on my land" crowd. It's almost like that crowd is over compensating by acting really tough and talking about how eager they are to shoot someone.
 
2013-03-07 02:47:52 PM

deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis

Yes, it IS a bleeding-heart mentality, whether you want to admit it or not.

I don't own, nor do I fear guns. But, you seem to be tucked into a blanket scared of some random bullet taking you out...one that was fired by a person trying to protect their possessions and livlihood.

Bleeding hearts would be worried about the safety of the robbers, amirite? My argument is about the principle of killing someone over a possesion, not the well being of thieves who actually get shot.

By the way, your the assclown worried about the ooga booga robbers stealing your shiat. My comment about a hypothetical shooting was certainly ridiculous, in order to point out the stupidity of the original hypothetical statement directed my way.


I'm not "worried" about robberies, because I live where there are basically NONE committed. Everyone around me has a gun, so perps don't come here. I leave my doors unlocked, I leave my car running when making a snack/beer run, etc.

Do you live in a shiathole? Maybe you should relocate...just not to central Texas.
 
2013-03-07 02:52:56 PM
henryhill: Please come steal my stuff, I have no fence or security system

And we're back full circle to where it's the fault of the business owner. Maybe he should stand trial.
 
2013-03-07 02:53:34 PM

Kahabut: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

Try and steal my car, and we'll find out, won't we?

I don't care what it is you think you are going to take from me, I am simply not going to allow it if I have a choice.  I have several choices, which caliber do you prefer?  Personally I like the .50 Flint lock.  It's stylish and saves time with balistics.

You're a thieving piece of trash, we have a lot of those, I can't imagine why their life should be precious?


Out of interest, in this fantasy you have of killing a thief, is their any pattern to the skin color of the person you imagine yourself killing so stylishly?
 
2013-03-07 02:54:03 PM

jso2897: labman: It might make them think twice.

OH, no doubt - criminals are famous for their ability to reflect upon the possible consequences of their actions.
And it it might make them "think twice" - to bring a gun of their own with them, and some armed buddies.


Statistics often show the opposite to be true.
In nations with high gun ownership, thieves prefer to rob during daylight hours.   Guns don't stop robbery, but they trend assaults and home invasions down because interacting with your victim is too risky.

/Business wise: The more people you bring, the more the loot gets divided.
/So you'd face a higher risk of getting shot for less reward.
/Granted, crime isn't about doing what's smart...
 
2013-03-07 02:58:40 PM

joseelsegundo: ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?

Well living in SC can be considered punishment, so I imagine at your sentencing the judge might count your years of SC citizenship as time served.


You live in Tampa.

TAMPA.
 
2013-03-07 03:00:56 PM
Wasnt there a First48 episode of the aftermath of this? Yep owner shot a guy and killed him over truck parts.
 
2013-03-07 03:02:19 PM
As someone who just removed  converters out from up under, I'm getting a kick out of this.
 
2013-03-07 03:03:26 PM

Civil_War2_Time: deanis: Civil_War2_Time: deanis

Yes, it IS a bleeding-heart mentality, whether you want to admit it or not.

I don't own, nor do I fear guns. But, you seem to be tucked into a blanket scared of some random bullet taking you out...one that was fired by a person trying to protect their possessions and livlihood.

Bleeding hearts would be worried about the safety of the robbers, amirite? My argument is about the principle of killing someone over a possesion, not the well being of thieves who actually get shot.

By the way, your the assclown worried about the ooga booga robbers stealing your shiat. My comment about a hypothetical shooting was certainly ridiculous, in order to point out the stupidity of the original hypothetical statement directed my way.

I'm not "worried" about robberies, because I live where there are basically NONE committed. Everyone around me has a gun, so perps don't come here. I leave my doors unlocked, I leave my car running when making a snack/beer run, etc.

Do you live in a shiathole? Maybe you should relocate...just not to central Texas.


I do not live in a shiathole. Crime rate is very low here and trust me, Texas is far too derpy for my taste. I hope nobody steals your car while you leave it running to get some faygo and cheese puffs, but god derrnit if they do I know one of y'all will shoot em dead! yee haw!
 
2013-03-07 03:08:29 PM

Endive Wombat: So at what point for you does a specific possession become valuable enough to justify the taking of the thief's life?


That's really up to the thief. If, after being warned, he still decides to steal something, he's decided that his life is only worth that much.

/I don't have any desire to kill for my possessions, but I'm willing to see if a criminal wants to die for them.
 
2013-03-07 03:08:33 PM

treesloth: I think I'm going to put up a sign that says, "Trespassers will be violated".


As a kid, I remember seeing a sign reading, "Shoplifters will be prostituted."

I think it may have been more effective than the standard "prosecuted" security theater.
 
2013-03-07 03:09:50 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: henryhill: Please come steal my stuff, I have no fence or security system

And we're back full circle to where it's the fault of the business owner. Maybe he should stand trial.


Well, if he didn't want his stuff stolen, he shouldn't have dressed it like that.

/am i doing this right?
 
2013-03-07 03:11:11 PM
Recently, near me there was a guy who heard a guy breaking into his car, confronted him, chased and shot him. Not legal but I have to be honest, my thought was "good".
 
2013-03-07 03:14:07 PM

PsyLord: Can't wait for someone to hack the sign to say "Free Stuff"


lolz! Local wise guy places Craigslist ad "Heavy equipment yard closing, death in family. Relatives out of state. Tow away whatever you want, site must be cleared immediately Thank you for helping."
 
2013-03-07 03:14:45 PM

way south: jso2897: labman: It might make them think twice.

OH, no doubt - criminals are famous for their ability to reflect upon the possible consequences of their actions.
And it it might make them "think twice" - to bring a gun of their own with them, and some armed buddies.

Statistics often show the opposite to be true.
In nations with high gun ownership, thieves prefer to rob during daylight hours.   Guns don't stop robbery, but they trend assaults and home invasions down because interacting with your victim is too risky.

/Business wise: The more people you bring, the more the loot gets divided.
/So you'd face a higher risk of getting shot for less reward.
/Granted, crime isn't about doing what's smart...


That's 90% of my point - you are imputing reason to a person who will plan, scheme, plot, organize, expend time, work and wealth - all to prove to himself that he can live without effort. It is better to simply do whatever you do to make yourself secure in your person and possessions - advertising your intentions is almost always a bad idea - you aren't dealing with rational people.
Many, many years ago, when I was young and stupid, and became briefly involved with hard drugs (smack) - which brought me into the company of career robbers and burglars ( I sold drugs). I met many burglars who told me they specifically looked for people who had those "Insured by Smith and Wesson" or "Forget the dog, beware of owner" signs on their house - because it suggested to them that there might be guns inside. On the street, guns are worth many times more than any other hot good. A diamond will get you a tenth of it's wholesale value - a gun, two or three times it's retail value. On numerous occasions, they attempted to sell or trade me the guns they had stolen from these pre-internet tough guys. So you can see where I have acquired my perspective on this. Sociopaths do not weigh risk vs. reward in the same way that a person like you or me does, and don't respond as you or I would to the same information.
 
2013-03-07 03:15:36 PM

MrJesus: joseelsegundo: ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?

Well living in SC can be considered punishment, so I imagine at your sentencing the judge might count your years of SC citizenship as time served.

You live in Tampa.

TAMPA.


Touché !

I seem to be attracted to these shiatholes. However the average high temps in Tampa during the winter makes it much easier to deal with.
 
2013-03-07 03:17:04 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.


death is the appropriate punishment for people that say "totes" and "cray cray" or use "tweet" as a verb or as anything other than to describe that little cartoon bird from the 70s or 80s for that matter.  you are not edgy or hip, you sound like a farking retard.

and yes for trespassing and stealing a car, it is fine, it is not like they found a car in a public place with the keys in it.
 
2013-03-07 03:18:33 PM

joseelsegundo: MrJesus: joseelsegundo: ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?

Well living in SC can be considered punishment, so I imagine at your sentencing the judge might count your years of SC citizenship as time served.

You live in Tampa.

TAMPA.

Touché !

I seem to be attracted to these shiatholes. However the average high temps in Tampa during the winter makes it much easier to deal with.


Unfortunately I am pretty sure that once you move to Tampa, you can never leave. Something about fearsome, deadly bridges that keep you trapped there because you can never cross them.

At least, that's what Jose El Primero told me.
 
2013-03-07 03:18:41 PM
amazing how many of the comments are on the side of thieves.  Small businesses, especially today, have such a small profit margin, $75g could bankrupt one easily.  Thieves endanger honest people's ability to provide for our families.  And, right v wrong I guess is a dead concept, so I supposed any consequences to stealing would be unfair.

And lastly, it isn't like they were stealing a loaf of bread, Targeted theft of sellable and specific parts in some cases, shows these were people who do this so they don't have to get up and go bust their asses at a job with the rest of us.
 
2013-03-07 03:20:46 PM

Mimic_Octopus: it is not like they found a car in a public place with the keys in it.


Kill him!!!!!!

thedailycannibal.com
 
2013-03-07 03:24:28 PM

Mimic_Octopus: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

death is the appropriate punishment for people that say "totes" and "cray cray" or use "tweet" as a verb or as anything other than to describe that little cartoon bird from the 70s or 80s for that matter.  you are not edgy or hip, you sound like a farking retard.

and yes for trespassing and stealing a car, it is fine, it is not like they found a car in a public place with the keys in it.


Tweet is a verb and a noun. A bird can tweet and it would be a bird's tweet.
 
2013-03-07 03:27:00 PM

titwrench: Mimic_Octopus: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

death is the appropriate punishment for people that say "totes" and "cray cray" or use "tweet" as a verb or as anything other than to describe that little cartoon bird from the 70s or 80s for that matter.  you are not edgy or hip, you sound like a farking retard.

and yes for trespassing and stealing a car, it is fine, it is not like they found a car in a public place with the keys in it.

Tweet is a verb and a noun. A bird can tweet and it would be a bird's tweet.


Especially if he rocks in the treetops, all day long.
 
2013-03-07 03:29:07 PM
Thievery is wrong and should be pursued by the law but if you own any material, non-living object that you think is worth someone's life coming to an end over, you are far, far more immoral than any thief.
 
2013-03-07 03:33:43 PM

gshepnyc: Thievery is wrong and should be pursued by the law but if you own any material, non-living object that you think is worth someone's life coming to an end over, you are far, far more immoral than any thief.


Don't sweat it - people say a lot of stuff on the Internet that they would never really do.
 
2013-03-07 03:34:42 PM

gshepnyc: Thievery is wrong and should be pursued by the law but if you own any material, non-living object that you think is worth someone's life coming to an end over, you are far, far more immoral than any thief.


Hey! don't use your yankee, pansy loving, internet pussy,  common sense around farkganistan.
 
2013-03-07 03:35:42 PM

MrJesus: At least, that's what Jose El Primero told me.


That Jose El Primero guy is a rat bastard. Always with the "I'm #1!" crap.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:38 PM

jso2897: gshepnyc: Thievery is wrong and should be pursued by the law but if you own any material, non-living object that you think is worth someone's life coming to an end over, you are far, far more immoral than any thief.

Don't sweat it - people say a lot of stuff on the Internet that they would never really do.


Internet tough-guy syndrome.

/it's more common than you think
//don't ever say that to my face IRL, punk
 
2013-03-07 03:40:26 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: kingoomieiii: Okay, you know you need to get through training and orientation to enact justice as a Judge, right?

[global.fncstatic.com image 660x371]

But don't worry, he'll fix you afterward.

[th06.deviantart.net image 850x478]


You just ruined both movies for me.
 
2013-03-07 03:40:44 PM
On the one hand, my attitude toward people engaged in acts of thievery, vandalism, breaking and entering etc. is that they're the ones who put themselves in that situation so whatever happens to them is their own fault. I don't generally get to concerned about some idiot who gets shot in the face as he's climbing through somebody else's front window at 2:00 AM.

On the other hand, I also tend to take a dim view of people who bluster about their willingness to shoot others because it generally indicates a weak-minded, unstable individual who probably shouldn't have a gun to begin with.
 
2013-03-07 03:41:10 PM
Also, thieves and trespassers should be shot by the owners if caught.
 
2013-03-07 03:47:00 PM

Mulchpuppy: Well, if he didn't want his stuff stolen, he shouldn't have dressed it like that.


Exactly. Well done!
 
2013-03-07 03:50:25 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Mulchpuppy: Well, if he didn't want his stuff stolen, he shouldn't have dressed it like that.

Exactly. Well done!


Actually, I saw that guy on the video - and no one should ever dress like that, for any reason or under any circumstances. Guy looks like a walking load of dirty laundry.
 
2013-03-07 04:00:18 PM

skozlaw: On the one hand, my attitude toward people engaged in acts of thievery, vandalism, breaking and entering etc. is that they're the ones who put themselves in that situation so whatever happens to them is their own fault. I don't generally get to concerned about some idiot who gets shot in the face as he's climbing through somebody else's front window at 2:00 AM.

On the other hand, I also tend to take a dim view of people who bluster about their willingness to shoot others because it generally indicates a weak-minded, unstable individual who probably shouldn't have a gun to begin with.


Well, so which hand will react when someone crawls through you window at 2 am?  The weak-minded hand holding the gun or the self righteous hand that is holding a dim view of the other hand.  I do get your later point, but I am not sold that this business owner fully falls into the weak-minded group just yet.  Leaning that way, but a lot of people that arm themselves don't celebrate the thought of killing.  Most are just fine not having to ever face those circumstances.  His thoughts may be more along the line of putting a security sign out front to deter.  I doubt anyone will get shot.
 
2013-03-07 04:02:15 PM

Yogimus: You just ruined both movies for me.


He was willing to do the entire movie with a mask almost completely covering his face. Arnold Schwarzenegger backed out of Judge Dredd because he would have his face covered some of the time.
 
2013-03-07 04:06:38 PM

skozlaw: On the one hand, my attitude toward people engaged in acts of thievery, vandalism, breaking and entering etc. is that they're the ones who put themselves in that situation so whatever happens to them is their own fault. I don't generally get to concerned about some idiot who gets shot in the face as he's climbing through somebody else's front window at 2:00 AM.

On the other hand, I also tend to take a dim view of people who bluster about their willingness to shoot others because it generally indicates a weak-minded, unstable individual who probably shouldn't have a gun to begin with.


And those who talk about how they're eager to have sex are clearly rapists by your logic.
 
2013-03-07 04:20:31 PM

lack of warmth: Leaning that way, but a lot of people that arm themselves don't celebrate the thought of killing.


For example... by putting up a big sign threatening to do so...

I don't have a problem with people defending themselves or their property with guns. I do have a problem with people with guns proactively threatening to use them in a non-specific way against unspecified people. It doesn't exactly speak well to their ability to reason.

Securitywyrm: And those who talk about how they're eager to have sex are clearly rapists by your logic.


No such thing, of course, since that analogy made absolutely no sense.
 
2013-03-07 04:24:33 PM

Okieboy: Someone should totally steal that sign!


Or reprogram it to say "FREE TRUCKS!"
 
2013-03-07 04:31:29 PM

hideous: amazing how many of the comments are on the side of thieves.  Small businesses, especially today, have such a small profit margin, $75g could bankrupt one easily.  Thieves endanger honest people's ability to provide for our families.  And, right v wrong I guess is a dead concept, so I supposed any consequences to stealing would be unfair.

And lastly, it isn't like they were stealing a loaf of bread, Targeted theft of sellable and specific parts in some cases, shows these were people who do this so they don't have to get up and go bust their asses at a job with the rest of us.


So, when an executive steals millions from stockholders, death?
 
2013-03-07 04:47:04 PM

lack of warmth: BAMFinator: NeoCortex42: loveblondieo: "We've had a Ford pickup truck stolen. We've had a van stolen. We've had a walking floor trailer stolen, and we've had people who've tried to steal radiators out of the trucks,

How the fark do you get these stolen from you?

For the $75,000 he lost, he could have probably afforded a decent fence and security system.

I drive by this place every day. Lots of big equipment, no fence and only a flimsy gate.

/the sign makes me laugh every day.

What is the gate attached to?  Is it just free standing and no one bothers to open it and just goes around?  You might as well put tape on the floor and ask everyone to treat the tapeline like your office walls.


The water ditch keeps you from driving off directly, but the gate is not much.
 
2013-03-07 04:53:50 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: fredklein: deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.

We'll see who gets into heaven.


We'll see who gets into Valhalla.
 
2013-03-07 05:00:50 PM

fredklein: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: fredklein: deanis: I don't care how you want to describe the act of killing someone for thievery. I don't believe that property is equal to a human life.

Cool. Then you let the thieves get away with it, while the rest of us shoot them dead.

We'll see who still has stuff at the end of the week.

We'll see who gets into heaven.

We'll see who gets into Valhalla.


We'll see who gets into Bolognese
 
2013-03-07 05:05:02 PM

cgraves67: ZAZ: "It's very disheartening when they (thieves) do get caught and the judges don't give them any time."

Do people who shoot thieves get time in South Carolina?

Only if they stupidly report the murder to the police. Just dig the bullets out and dump the body on a disused road. If anyone knows what he was doing when he went missing, they won't talk to the police.


He was just getting his life turned around, and was about to sign a record deal...
 
2013-03-07 05:05:10 PM

skozlaw: lack of warmth: Leaning that way, but a lot of people that arm themselves don't celebrate the thought of killing.

For example... by putting up a big sign threatening to do so...

I don't have a problem with people defending themselves or their property with guns. I do have a problem with people with guns proactively threatening to use them in a non-specific way against unspecified people. It doesn't exactly speak well to their ability to reason.

Securitywyrm: And those who talk about how they're eager to have sex are clearly rapists by your logic.

No such thing, of course, since that analogy made absolutely no sense.


You'll be defending yourself with the self righteous hand looking dimly at the weak minded thief taking your stuff.  Got it, good luck.
 
2013-03-07 05:17:21 PM
The other half of his "securtiy plan" is to have gunshots pre-recorded and play them randomly throughout the night. Thieves will hear the gunshots and figure someone else just got shot and get moving in reverse quick-like.
 
2013-03-07 05:22:42 PM
"Why is this man shot 30 times?"

"It's all the bullets we had at the time."
 
2013-03-07 05:25:39 PM

TheOther: Endive Wombat: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

So, devils advocate time...

Who says that the theft of my car is any less important than the theft of anything else or anyone else's possessions?  I've worked honestly and hard to be able to buy my car, I need my car to get to and from work, run errands, and to experience life.  The very act of stealing my car is prohibiting me from doing what I need to do in my life, and prohibiting me from enjoying my life the way I want to...you are negatively affecting my livelihood and my ability to get around in a meaningful way.

What is valuable to me, may not be as valuable to you and vice versa, that being said,who are you to tell me that my possessions are not worth defending if someone is trying to take them from me?
If you are willing to steal a car, you have to accept the possibility that the car you are stealing means a lot to the person it is getting stolen from.

If I adopt your valuation that a radiator is worth a life, can I shoot you and just give a radiator as compensation?


Is he a thief? Those people are not even worth a radiator.
 
2013-03-07 05:40:38 PM

redlegrick: Okieboy: Someone should totally steal that sign!

Ha! The guy didn't say thieves would be killed. He just said they'd be shot. There is a difference, you know...


True.  The guy could be a big proponent of flu vaccinations.
 
2013-03-07 05:42:28 PM
so i guess alot of people are just ok with other people taking the stuff they work very hard for.  or, unlike me, they don't work hard for what they have, so they just don't care?  $75K could easily put a small business under.  i'm not an itg i don't think, but i'm ok with protecting your property.
 
2013-03-07 06:00:34 PM
Come on, people, if you are on someone's property stealing shiat, you know you are somewhere you are not supposed to be, and you know you are doing something that you are not supposed to be doing. If someone shoots you, too bad, buh-bye.
 
2013-03-07 06:34:10 PM
Thieves are why the good Lord made shotgun cartridges you can fill with road salt.

A reasonable deterrent to theft, when the item is something like a car or house that a person depends on for their livelihood or shelter, or incapacitating a person long enough for the proper authorities to get there is a fine use of the Second Amendment. Taking a human life to prevent the theft of a thing, however, is not. You only get to kill when it's your life, body or loved ones at risk. I also think that Shepherd Book's 'kneecap loophole' is okay for thieves, but you have to put a compress on their leg after you zip-tie their hands and ask 911 for an ambulance.
 
2013-03-07 06:34:53 PM

js34603: It amazes me how fast it goes from "I am able to use deadly force to protect my property" to "I can't wait to use deadly force to maybe protect my property but to definitely shoot someone!"

It is also amazing how people who have never shot someone are so eager to do so while people who have shot someone tend to have a little different perspective. Even people who "justifiably" shot someone tend not to be in the "I'll blast ya if you trespass on my land" crowd. It's almost like that crowd is over compensating by acting really tough and talking about how eager they are to shoot someone.


The "never shot someone" group also seem to ridiculously over-estimate their shooting ability.  They're completely confident that in a stressful situation such as coming across a robbery they will be able to draw, load, aim, and fire their weapon accurately. Never mind that the bad guy might also be armed, may not be alone, is probably running or otherwise moving around, is probably on edge themselves, might be on something or just plain crazy and therefore might act irrationally, is probably under some cover of darkness, rain, or fog (as noted in the article), and so on and so on.  Professional soldiers and law enforcement would have trouble in this situation, but Jim Bob the junkyard owner?  No problem at all.
 
2013-03-07 07:09:02 PM

SpiderQueenDemon: Thieves are why the good Lord made shotgun cartridges you can fill with road salt.

A reasonable deterrent to theft, when the item is something like a car or house that a person depends on for their livelihood or shelter, or incapacitating a person long enough for the proper authorities to get there is a fine use of the Second Amendment. Taking a human life to prevent the theft of a thing, however, is not. You only get to kill when it's your life, body or loved ones at risk. I also think that Shepherd Book's 'kneecap loophole' is okay for thieves, but you have to put a compress on their leg after you zip-tie their hands and ask 911 for an ambulance.


The good lord does not, in fact, make these things. They lack the mass to break skin beyond a few meters.  Furthermore, it is the THIEF that places the value on his life. Not the shooter. Finally, shooting to maim is not, in fact, a "good idea" or a morally acceptable outcome. Kill em, or let them be. Shooting to maim just endangers everyone involved further, and leaves you open for legal action.  Local laws apply, of course.
 
2013-03-07 07:54:15 PM

Katolu: You were playing devil's advocate, I was taking the opposing devil's view. Does thievery call for death?


leadgraffiti.com
 
2013-03-07 09:39:12 PM
Oh please, let someone steal the sign within 24 hours.
 
2013-03-07 10:36:21 PM

xria: Kahabut: hillbillypharmacist: Death is totes the right punishment for stealing a car.

Try and steal my car, and we'll find out, won't we?

I don't care what it is you think you are going to take from me, I am simply not going to allow it if I have a choice.  I have several choices, which caliber do you prefer?  Personally I like the .50 Flint lock.  It's stylish and saves time with balistics.

You're a thieving piece of trash, we have a lot of those, I can't imagine why their life should be precious?

Out of interest, in this fantasy you have of killing a thief, is their any pattern to the skin color of the person you imagine yourself killing so stylishly?


You seem to be under some fantastically wrong assumptions.
 
2013-03-08 12:24:43 AM
How can you shoot thieves if you're unable to notice when they steal stuff from your business?  Try getting a guard dog or something.
 
2013-03-08 06:17:05 AM
Survivors will be shot again!
 
2013-03-08 07:38:59 AM
"We hope it'll be a theft deterrent,"

Probably not to the human turds that steal your stuff.
 
2013-03-08 10:19:21 AM
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don't have Road Signs or Guns and uh, I believe that our, I, Justice System like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our Burglaries  over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our Inventory, for us.
 
2013-03-08 08:44:20 PM

SirMadness: Katolu: You were playing devil's advocate, I was taking the opposing devil's view. Does thievery call for death?


I feel the same about d-bags that take up more than one parking spot.
 
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