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(New Europe)   EU voting a ban on pornography, 'Eliminating Gender Stereotypes in the EU' is the innocuous title of a report that sounds like the sort of thing few would object to, but as Swedish Pirate MEP, Christian Engstrom notes, the devil is in the details   (neurope.eu) divider line 11
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2013-03-07 09:28:13 AM
6 votes:
I'll take "why strong free speech protections in the USA are a good thing" for $500 Alex.

/for you EU FARKers, this is why we don't get too upset when some street preacher starts ranting about gays or something, because the same laws that protect those assholes protect the rest of us from the kind of bullshiat like in the article.
2013-03-07 12:28:16 PM
4 votes:

Voiceofreason01: I'll take "why strong free speech protections in the USA are a good thing" for $500 Alex.

/for you EU FARKers, this is why we don't get too upset when some street preacher starts ranting about gays or something, because the same laws that protect those assholes protect the rest of us from the kind of bullshiat like in the article.


EU Free speech rights.


It's always funny when Americans think they're the only people in the world to have rights. /I don't have to carry my driving licence, or any ID, with me. Or have to tell a cop my name if he asks.
2013-03-07 12:37:17 PM
2 votes:

skullkrusher: Flint Ironstag: Voiceofreason01: I'll take "why strong free speech protections in the USA are a good thing" for $500 Alex.

/for you EU FARKers, this is why we don't get too upset when some street preacher starts ranting about gays or something, because the same laws that protect those assholes protect the rest of us from the kind of bullshiat like in the article.

EU Free speech rights.


It's always funny when Americans think they're the only people in the world to have rights. /I don't have to carry my driving licence, or any ID, with me. Or have to tell a cop my name if he asks.

2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."

hmm... freedom-y


US First Amendment:
Freedom of speech does not include the right: To incite actions that would harm others (e.g. "[S]hout[ing] 'fire' in a crowded theater."). Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919). To make or distribute obscene materials. Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957). To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest. United States v. O'Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968). To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration. Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988). Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event. Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986). Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event. Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).

Seems appropriate to the subject at hand....
2013-03-07 11:24:50 AM
2 votes:
I am constantly fascinated and amused when political leaders and those calling for governmental action literally know zilch when it comes to certain aspects of technology.

So when it comes to internet pornography...yeah that cat is out of the bag and is not going back in...ever...
2013-03-07 01:09:49 PM
1 votes:
If they are eliminating porn because of gender stereotypes is gay porn still cool?
2013-03-07 12:46:30 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: yet we make a whole shiatload of porn. We can criticize religion. Some might call that immoral. Would be a shame if such people came to power in the EU.


So the EU "morals" clause must be "ban everything!" but the US "obscene" clause isn't really anything?

Strange, it's almost like both the US and the EU rely on courts to decide what the letter of the law means....
2013-03-07 12:40:54 PM
1 votes:

Bored Horde: The ban is on objectifying women in advertising.  The industry had 15 years to police themselves, they didn't, and now the EU parliament is stepping in.

If you think it's OK that skinny women (and only skinny women) are used to advertise the majority of product out there, that women are shown in subservient, smiling roles in this advertising, and that there has been no forward progress (and indeed increased objectification in some regards) in 15 years, well... perhaps the EU isn't the place for you.

I'm not surprised that the Internet party wants to keep women naked and objectified in the media.


What about TV sitcoms where the common, go-to stereotype for men is a wimpy, doofy, and stupid loser who has a wife that's always got a quip, a rebellious teenage daughter...

Shouldn't we be doing something about that too?
2013-03-07 12:37:16 PM
1 votes:
The ban is on objectifying women in advertising.  The industry had 15 years to police themselves, they didn't, and now the EU parliament is stepping in.

If you think it's OK that skinny women (and only skinny women) are used to advertise the majority of product out there, that women are shown in subservient, smiling roles in this advertising, and that there has been no forward progress (and indeed increased objectification in some regards) in 15 years, well... perhaps the EU isn't the place for you.

I'm not surprised that the Internet party wants to keep women naked and objectified in the media.
2013-03-07 12:32:15 PM
1 votes:

Flint Ironstag: /I don't have to carry my driving licence, or any ID, with me.


We only have to carry a driver's license if we're driving. You can wander around here without ID all you want.
2013-03-07 12:30:37 PM
1 votes:
They should have just called it the "Violence Against Women" act.

Who the hell would vote against that?
2013-03-07 11:30:38 AM
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: So when it comes to internet pornography...yeah that cat

pussy is out of the bag and is not going back in...ever...

FTFY?
 
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