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(Chicago Trib)   "Ties to sex abuse could disqualify papal candidates," claims Cardinal George, who apparently doesn't realize that could reduce the field to one or two (or zero)   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 13
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2013-03-07 11:19:00 AM
4 votes:
"Could" disqualify a candidate from being Pope?

Really?  "Could"?

How about "will absolutely" or "shall in no uncertain terms"?  Anything but "could"?
2013-03-07 11:19:08 AM
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Yeah. Too bad we just lost Ratzinger. He was really doing his damnedest to track down those pedophiles.


Well, no, he actually did do a lot as a Cardinal to track down sex offenders.

Now how exactly does Benedictine XVI get all of the blame for this while John Paul II gets a squeaky clean reputation? I've never figured that out.
2013-03-07 02:52:54 PM
1 votes:
Devil's Advocate question:

Would using that sort of language prevent "witch hunts" where people who want the church paralyzed would try tying every potential candidate to pedophilia, no matter how weak?
2013-03-07 12:34:17 PM
1 votes:
DjangoStonereaver:  Except that his near total silence on the question of sexual abuse by priests, however, almost completely counterbalances all his holy works, and while I'm not letting him off the hook, I do think that between his
lack of experience with the more Machiavellian aspects of the curia and his infirmity there were many
vested interests in making sure he didn't do more than vague denounciations of bad things during  his
tenure.


Yeah, history is not going to be kind to JP2, and will not accept his humility and debility as excuses, his "holy works" notwithstanding. Just sayin'...
2013-03-07 12:20:53 PM
1 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: Except that his
near total silence on the question of sexual abuse by priests, however, almost completely
counterbalances all his holy works,


Plus insisting over and over to any African that would listen that wearing condoms causes HIV.
2013-03-07 12:14:04 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: Baron Harkonnen: Now how exactly does Benedictine XVI get all of the blame for this while John Paul II gets a squeaky clean reputation? I've never figured that out.

Easy. JP2 looked and acted like your kindly grandfather, while B16 looked like and acted like that weasely-faced guy jerking off under his raincoat.

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JP2 wasn't really an administrator:  he was a theologian and intellectual who left much of the the
day-to-day administration of the church to Cardinal Ratzinger (later Benedict XVI), especially in the
later years of his papacy when Parkinsons disease completely debilitated him.  I firmly believe that
Ratzinger knew the true extent of the sexual abuse scandals for a long time before even rumours came
out, and did zero about it

As lapsed a Catholic as I am, I truly think that JP2 was one of the greatest Popes in history, especially in
the area of ecumenical outreach to other religions and (to a smaller extent) attempts to update church
doctrine to be more in line with the modern world (not reform, mind you, just editing).  Except that his
near total silence on the question of sexual abuse by priests, however, almost completely
counterbalances all his holy works, and while I'm not letting him off the hook, I do think that between his
lack of experience with the more Machiavellian aspects of the curia and his infirmity there were many
vested interests in making sure he didn't do more than vague denounciations of bad things during  his
tenure.
2013-03-07 11:53:39 AM
1 votes:

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Citation required.

You know, just like the last time you made this claim, and completely failed to back it up.


Last time, I did give an example. And I'm glad I checked back with this thread before I logged off, so I can't be accused of threadshiatting.

Link


Scroll down to "Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church" and read. And yeah, I know, Wikipedia, but still, those are the facts and I don't feel like playing internet link presenter at this late of hour. If you want to contest them, go ahead, and while i will read your rebuttal later I'm not going to be online anymore to give you a reply in this thread.
2013-03-07 11:53:00 AM
1 votes:

Harry Freakstorm: AverageAmericanGuy


Yeah. Too bad we just lost Ratzinger. He was really doing his damnedest to track down those pedophiles.

LOL

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"You know, pedophenlia or peadophenalia has it's links to the dark ages. Because it was dark, people would mistake the local day care center with the houses of il reputing and the customers would mistake the child for dwarf prostitutes. Of course, you'd think that this would stop when the candle was invented but the lack of dwarf prostitutes and the desire for such make the pedofeinds continue with their errant ways even to this day.


A Cliff reference? And I read it in his voice.

/You sound old
//+1
2013-03-07 11:36:03 AM
1 votes:

Baron Harkonnen: Now how exactly does Benedictine XVI get all of the blame for this while John Paul II gets a squeaky clean reputation? I've never figured that out.


Easy. JP2 looked and acted like your kindly grandfather, while B16 looked like and acted like that weasely-faced guy jerking off under his raincoat.

www.lifesitenews.com
2013-03-07 11:34:06 AM
1 votes:
Hey subby... The whole farking point is to narrow the field to one candidate, since there's only one point.
What they do is keep raising the bar until there is only one dude who matches the criteria they set and then he's the pope. If they accidentally raise it too high and that number drops to 'zero' they go 'oops' and drop the standard back down.
That's why he said 'could' not 'will definitely.'

/thinks this is one case where 'will definitely' fits the bill.
//will definitely result in the church bringing back drawing and quartering.
2013-03-07 11:17:31 AM
1 votes:
Well since there's only 1 opening what's wrong with narrowing the field that way. If there is a Cardinal out there with clean hands on this then they should be the freakin Pope.
2013-03-07 11:13:18 AM
1 votes:
Yeah. Too bad we just lost Ratzinger. He was really doing his damnedest to track down those pedophiles.

LOL
2013-03-07 11:12:46 AM
1 votes:
Zero. The answer is zero cardinals with no ties to cover-ups of sexual abuse. Zero.
 
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