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2013-03-07 06:12:23 PM

t3knomanser: Ugh, I hate the yellow-orange incandescent color. It's so weird. Why do old people love that so much?


Because we're smarter and better than you whinging little children.
 
2013-03-07 06:12:55 PM

chimp_ninja: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Until you break one on the carpet and you have to spend the next four hours on the floor with duct tape because the vacuum cleaner will cause any spilled mercury to go airborne.  Seriously, cleaning up a broken CFL is a colossal PITA.

This always comes up, but I've seriously never broken a light bulb.

I mean, older TVs have nasty stuff in them, but it was never a problem because I don't play racquetball in my living room.


Yeah, I never broke one either.  Until I broke one.  And it was a giant PITA.
 
2013-03-07 06:26:08 PM

SpectroBoy: Reflectors (R-40s). And I need a wide flood light not a narrow spot (like many of the LEDs).


Cree (and a few others) currently make 65 watt equivalents of the style you need, give them a year or so and I'll bet you you'll find your 100 watt equivalent (There is already a company that makes a 100 watt equivalent LED bulb, but only in an A type shape)
 
2013-03-07 06:29:39 PM
www.homedepot.ca
would look like that
 
2013-03-07 06:41:30 PM

Cewley: Great idea: low watt usage.  Fark: will never last the warranty period, but long enough for you to lose the receipt. TotalFark: 60w bulb doesn't provide enough light to read by.


You need a 100W incandescent blazing to read at night? Time to get one of these:

timenerdworld.files.wordpress.com

/Got one and I love it for reading in bed.
 
2013-03-07 07:45:53 PM

chimp_ninja: Artcurus: Uhmm. Older TVs, even TUBE (50-70's) sets, don't have nasty stuff in them. If you break a tube, all you have is glass to clean up.

Depends on when it was manufactured.  A lot of older CRTs have cadmium or yttrium phosphors.  You wouldn't leave them lying around if a breakage happened.

It's certainly not "just glass", because that wouldn't make colors.  These issues are present in LEDs and other modern displays as well, which is part of why many communities have dedicated electronics recycling now in order to keep those metals out of groundwater/etc.


While there may be problems with modern sets, older color TV sets used red/green/blue phosphors to create the picture, an electron beam hit the phosphor and made it glow.

The biggest problem was actually X Radiation, the high voltage rectifier, which in my set, was tube  number 1B3, had to be shielded within a metal box along with the high voltage  or flyback transformer. The outside of the picture tube also had to be shielded.

The second biggest problem was the possibility of implosion. It was rare but it happened.


A lot of older CRTs have cadmium or yttrium phosphors.

^in amounts that are negligable.  The problem is in manufacture of the consumer good, not end use.
 
2013-03-07 08:01:55 PM
What is the color temperature on these? Would they work for growing plants indoors?

I find a mix of GE 6500K and 4500K CFLs works well, but I'd like to go to LEDs if they work better.
 
2013-03-07 09:18:31 PM
 
2013-03-07 09:39:50 PM

t3knomanser: Ugh, I hate the yellow-orange incandescent color. It's so weird. Why do old people love that so much?


Fireside, candlelight, etc. Warm, relaxing, comforting.
 
2013-03-07 10:05:51 PM

Samwise Gamgee: Fireside, candlelight, etc. Warm, relaxing, comforting.


Firelight and candlelight are not exactly good lights to  see by. They're delightfully decorative, but hardly practical. If I want to actually do things, I much prefer a crisp, white light. I've got this LED lamp that's absolutely brutal- you have to light the room with it indirectly. Bounce it off a wall, and fill the room with light. Love it.
 
2013-03-07 11:06:14 PM

t3knomanser: Firelight and candlelight are not exactly good lights to  see by. They're delightfully decorative, but hardly practical. If I want to actually do things, I much prefer a crisp, white light.


Best of all worlds:  http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/limemouse/lifx-the-light-bulb-rei n vented
 
2013-03-07 11:28:53 PM

LesserEvil: I've been buying Inland 40W LED Bulbs at Microcenter for some time now.

None of them have burned out, and they provide pretty good lighting. $0.72/year cost of operation, 490 Lumens @ 3000K. $7.99, or $8,99 for the dimmable version.

They have a nice heavy heat sink on them.

I pick up a few every time I go in the store, but I've noticed others have discovered them now, and the store is now having trouble keeping them in stock.

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I got a bunch of the Inland 60's (and a couple 75's) to replace nearly all my bulbs (mostly because I'm SICK OF CHANGING STUPID LIGHT BULBS!)

I had a 180 watt bulb in a floor lamp -- I bought 2 light bulb socket doublers and screwed them together giving me a net 3 sockets in the lamp -- put 3 60's in there -- 180 watt light output that won't burn out and uses about 30 watts.
 
2013-03-08 12:24:27 AM
I just ordered one:

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?sto r eId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=203991774&R=203991774

We will see how this works out. I have never been completely happy with the CFL's anyway. Some generate a lot is radio frequency interference. I hope these LED's are better.
 
2013-03-08 12:41:06 AM
... come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I changed a light bulb. And I have all CFLs.
 
2013-03-08 01:08:16 AM

wildsnowllama: ... come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I changed a light bulb. And I have all CFLs.


I'm still using CFLs from the early-2000's ( GE 2-D dimmable CFL still running strong). I'm  enough of a dork to buy a LED bulb just out of curiosity, however.

/ this newer technology intrigues me...
 
2013-03-08 01:50:03 AM

germ78: Do you have to pay $30 extra for the extended warranty? Will you be hounded by some salesjerk to do so, or else he earns no commission on it?

/or is that experience a Best Buy exclusive?


Only the Home Depot people at the Contractor desk are on commission.
 
2013-03-08 01:56:22 AM
Kazan:
I also disagree, that piss yellow light is dim, makes everything look like crap and is just generally ugly.

You sound asian
 
2013-03-08 04:45:58 AM
Is there such a thing as an affordable LED lamp bulb that has sunlight-spectrum quality? My peepers have become pretty adjusted to it and anything else either looks like old-timey orange or melt-your-corneas-out ultra-white.
 
2013-03-08 06:34:40 AM

Kazan: the_sidewinder: Kazan: 2700K? Aka "Incandescent Piss-tinge"? fark that shiat.

If you really hate that, the article points out that the 60w equivalent will also be available in a Daylight variety

i've got 1500lumen 5000k CFLs that only use like 23w so i'm set for a while.


Myself I have 5000k 1200 lumens that use 20w but they only cost £0.10 each so I got 30 of them. I`m set for bulbs for a while and it only cost me £3...
 
2013-03-08 08:47:49 AM

max_pooper: SpectroBoy: jfarkinB: These particular bulbs would be exactly the wrong thing to use, but I'll bet an LED bulb designed for a can would have even more of an efficiency advantage over incandescent -- you'd just point all the chips downward, and you wouldn't need a rear reflector and its attendant inefficiency. You'd need to make sure the heat can escape from the can, though.

Tou WOULD think that. But I can't find any such thing.

I am an engineer so I know a little about specs (like looking at the lumens and not the marketing bs of "wattage equivalent") and I haven't found any reflector bulbs or replacement modules that approach a 100 watt R40. The brightest I found fall short of that and most of them are focused like a pin spotlight (probably to increase perceived brightness).   (they also need to be dimmable, or I end up spending even more to replace dimmers w/ switches)

If you know of such a device I would consider it a kindness for you to post it here.

Caution PDF



Those max out at 1K lumens and a CRI of 67. I guess I will need to wait another year or two.
 
2013-03-08 08:50:13 AM

Shazam999: t's wide.  Just as good, if not better, than the CFLs they replaced in terms of dispersal.  Far better in terms of actual light output and of course basically perfect instant-on.

And 1350 lumens isn't good enough?  Are you wearing sunglasses in your house?


Thanks for the info.

Our house is on the large size and the cans are spaced for 120-150 watt R40 bulbs. The architect like the look of fewer cans (and it's cheaper to build), but now those bulbs are hard to get. (I never thought I would be buying "black market" light bulbs)  Also, in the foyer the floor is brown so a lot of the light is wasted. (and I need wide floods, not spots)

1350 Lumens is good enough, but a hair low.
 
2013-03-08 09:07:38 AM

RexTalionis: Kazan: vpb: I suspect they just don't like change.

yes.

RexTalionis: Because people like warmer colors and that warmer lighting is easier on the eyes.

but.. but.. that's not warmer! that's a colder black body equivalent!!!

:P (yes i know "warm color palette" vs "actual black body temperature")

I also disagree, that piss yellow light is dim, makes everything look like crap and is just generally ugly.

We've been conditioned to expect warm lighting in the evenings for thousands of years. That kind of daylight-ish white light is just weird at night. My bedroom uses the daylight-style bulbs and my living room uses more yellowish bulbs and my bedroom is way less inviting a place than my living room, probably explaining my lack of success with the ladies.


Yeah, it's the lighting that makes you look like a man-child who still collects comic books and takes pride in unlocking the next level in the latest game. Why does l
 
2013-03-08 10:09:18 AM

chimp_ninja: 4) Why can't I find this study?


Because it's bullshiat

Why are no details provided?

Because it's bullshiat

Why is it that when I search for the "Federation of German Engineers" it only returns this "study"?

Because it's bullshiat

I saw a reference to this article on some other web forum a few months ago, and 30 minutes or so  with The Google led to the inescapable conclusion that  1)) the only websites that reference this "study" are ALt Med sites, and people with an axe to grind or a vested interest in these bulbs not becoming popular, and 2)  not a single one of them provides a primary source for this "study" - they invariable all link to one another
 
2013-03-08 12:03:09 PM

SpectroBoy: Shazam999: t's wide.  Just as good, if not better, than the CFLs they replaced in terms of dispersal.  Far better in terms of actual light output and of course basically perfect instant-on.

And 1350 lumens isn't good enough?  Are you wearing sunglasses in your house?

Thanks for the info.

Our house is on the large size and the cans are spaced for 120-150 watt R40 bulbs. The architect like the look of fewer cans (and it's cheaper to build), but now those bulbs are hard to get. (I never thought I would be buying "black market" light bulbs)  Also, in the foyer the floor is brown so a lot of the light is wasted. (and I need wide floods, not spots)

1350 Lumens is good enough, but a hair low.


Ah, R40.  You don't want the R30 then, they'll look tiny in the cans.  There are R40 LEDs, look around.
 
2013-03-08 02:41:19 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: wildsnowllama: ... come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I changed a light bulb. And I have all CFLs.

I'm still using CFLs from the early-2000's ( GE 2-D dimmable CFL still running strong). I'm  enough of a dork to buy a LED bulb just out of curiosity, however.

/ this newer technology intrigues me...


I did pretty much the same thing.  I replaced the CFL in my headboard lamp with an LED bulb, and I have absolutely no complaints.  More recently, I swapped out the CFL's that came with a pair of Ikea lamps since the CFL's it came with are very slow to warm up and have just enough flicker to be annoying (the LED bulbs don't flicker at all as far as I can tell).

I plan to eventually replace all of my CFL's with LED bulbs, but only as they burn out (the energy savings isn't enough to make it worthwhile to replace a working CFL).  And since I still have about half of a Costco box of unused CFL's, that could take ten years or so.
 
2013-03-08 07:19:21 PM

t3knomanser: Samwise Gamgee: Fireside, candlelight, etc. Warm, relaxing, comforting.

Firelight and candlelight are not exactly good lights to  see by. They're delightfully decorative, but hardly practical. If I want to actually do things, I much prefer a crisp, white light. I've got this LED lamp that's absolutely brutal- you have to light the room with it indirectly. Bounce it off a wall, and fill the room with light. Love it.


That's great during the day, but I'm at work all day where I work under horrid bluish fluorescent lights. When I get home in the evening I want a warm glow.

It's funny - I put black electrical tape over all the annoying blue LED's on all my electronics because it impeded sleep, yet I typically have no problem falling asleep with my bug-light lamp on...
 
2013-03-09 05:22:42 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Rwa2play: Kazan: 2700K? Aka "Incandescent Piss-tinge"? fark that shiat.

This.  Recently bought some 75-watt daylight CFL bulbs for my nightstand.  Best. Bulbs. Ever.

Until you break one on the carpet and you have to spend the next four hours on the floor with duct tape because the vacuum cleaner will cause any spilled mercury to go airborne.

Seriously, cleaning up a broken CFL is a colossal PITA.


Is this the new RW talking point when it comes to lighting technology? I wonder how our species has survived two generations of contact with fluorescent lighting if you're getting your knickers in a twist about one lousy CFL...
 
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