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2013-03-07 08:13:09 AM
Denver police are above the law.  If you don't believe it, just ask one of them.

Remember kids, when seconds count, 911 is only minutes away.
 
2013-03-07 08:15:49 AM
My Gawd, that is one ugly-ass website!
 
2013-03-07 08:52:16 AM
Looking at that pic there's no way reading that article is a good idea. I'm gonna go watch Fight Club.
 
2013-03-07 08:52:40 AM
Get used to it, peasants.
 
2013-03-07 08:52:59 AM
Seems legit.
 
2013-03-07 08:53:51 AM
His name is Robert Paulson.
 
2013-03-07 08:53:57 AM
Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.
 
2013-03-07 08:54:38 AM
cdn.smosh.com
 
2013-03-07 08:56:51 AM
badpolice.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-07 08:56:53 AM
Stop hitting yourself.
farm9.staticflickr.com
Why don't you stop hitting yourself?

 
2013-03-07 09:00:11 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.


He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?
 
2013-03-07 09:00:27 AM
Nixon has quite the right jab for a head in a jar.

theinfosphere.org
 
2013-03-07 09:01:41 AM
That'll teach him to have an invisible gun.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:09 AM
The kid shouldn't have mouthed off.
 
2013-03-07 09:02:27 AM
That's some fine ass-whoopin' there, boys.
 
2013-03-07 09:07:08 AM

ChipNASA: AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.

He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?



Actually if you read the article you'll see that one of them did do it to a white kid later on.... and he was fired for it. But beat the living snot out of a brown kid and apparently Denver PD thinks that's just spiffy.

Unbelievable. Well, except for it being totally believable because this kind of shiat happens on a pretty regular basis.
 
2013-03-07 09:07:52 AM
Fourth amendment rights?
Anyone?
Bueller?
 
2013-03-07 09:07:55 AM
well there's you're problem!  he's black and talking to the cops.  you just can't do that sort of thing.
 
2013-03-07 09:08:24 AM
Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.
 
2013-03-07 09:09:07 AM
Get used to it people. This is what happens when you militarize your police forces. I bet all three of those cops are ex military. Years of brainwashing them into believing everyone and everything is a threat, coupled with hyper-agressive responses to percieved threats results in this kind of shiat happening. Like Rambo said, "you cant just turn it off."
 
2013-03-07 09:09:17 AM

ChipNASA: AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.

He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?


Actually, they didn't find any pot on him. They found it on his passenger. The beating
started when they wanted to search his car and he asked if they had a warrant.
 
2013-03-07 09:09:54 AM

Weaver95: well there's you're problem!  he's black and talking to the cops.  you just can't do that sort of thing.


Especially if you know your rights.  That means you're uppity.  No wonder the cops beat him to a pulp.  Standard operating procedure.
 
2013-03-07 09:11:48 AM
www.ttellc.net

That's Tiffany Middleton on the left with Chevy Chase during the 2008 DNC. I posted this in the last thread on this subject. I'm not even a bit surprised at this decision and the DPD actions.
 
2013-03-07 09:13:25 AM

Kyoki: [www.ttellc.net image 809x607]

That's Tiffany Middleton on the left with Chevy Chase during the 2008 DNC. I posted this in the last thread on this subject. I'm not even a bit surprised at this decision and the DPD actions.


I love how cops, just like any other gang, start indoctrinating young. Look at the little bacon bit in the back--is he 15?
 
2013-03-07 09:14:11 AM
They need to make prosecution a legal certification that has to be renewed every few years, and then make bar applicants register for a legal draft as to who will prosecute what cases.

The chummy, "We don't need to prosecute him cause we might have to work for him," shiat that has infected the DAs office almost universally needs to be dissolved if we're going to stay free.
 
2013-03-07 09:14:26 AM
cops got 99 problems but getting in trouble ain't one....
 
2013-03-07 09:19:32 AM
that guy sure likes to fall down a lot.  you'd think he'd be better at it.
 
2013-03-07 09:19:46 AM
Yeah that's one of their cadets. They get a small paycheck and free tuition at Metro Community College in trade for being a DPD flunky. Then at 21, they get preferential selection to enter the DPD academy.
 
2013-03-07 09:22:20 AM

Kyoki: That's Tiffany Middleton on the left with Chevy Chase during the 2008 DNC


I always thought tifany was a girl's name.
 
2013-03-07 09:23:46 AM
In the cops defense, do you think that guy's gonna make the mistake of questioning a cop in the future? Hells no!
 
2013-03-07 09:25:05 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Weaver95: well there's you're problem!  he's black and talking to the cops.  you just can't do that sort of thing.

Especially if you know your rights.  That means you're uppity.  No wonder the cops beat him to a pulp.  Standard operating procedure.


if you're black AND know your rights!?  oh well he was just begging for a beat down.  I mean we just can't be having THAT sort of thing.
 
2013-03-07 09:29:59 AM
Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for
 
2013-03-07 09:30:55 AM

Weaver95: well there's you're problem!  he's black and talking to the cops.  you just can't do that sort of thing.


House of Lies gave a refresher course on that last Sunday.
 
2013-03-07 09:31:49 AM

Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: Weaver95: well there's you're problem!  he's black and talking to the cops.  you just can't do that sort of thing.

Especially if you know your rights.  That means you're uppity.  No wonder the cops beat him to a pulp.  Standard operating procedure.

if you're black AND know your rights!?  oh well he was just begging for a beat down.  I mean we just can't be having THAT sort of thing.


Gots to nip that in the bud! Next, they'll wanna sit in the front of the bus. And don't even get me started on using the water fountain.

i139.photobucket.com

I do miss the good old days!
 
2013-03-07 09:32:58 AM

Dick Gozinya: I bet all three of those cops are ex military.


Probably not. My experience has been ex-military are more disciplined, and don't tend to do as much stupid stuff.
 
2013-03-07 09:34:21 AM

Dick Gozinya: Get used to it people. This is what happens when you militarize your police forces. I bet all three of those cops are ex military. Years of brainwashing them into believing everyone and everything is a threat, coupled with hyper-agressive responses to percieved threats results in this kind of shiat happening. Like Rambo said, "you cant just turn it off."


I was told by an Army buddy that I served with that some police dept's dont like hiring vets or former MPs because they cant de-program them very well. Cops are supposed to protect and serve, military not so much. I dont know if there was any truth to his statement. But it seemed to make some sense. But as always there is an asshole in every crowd, FARK is full of em!
 
2013-03-07 09:35:06 AM
Why do the bulk of these comments have racist overtones?
 
2013-03-07 09:36:24 AM

enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.


Maybe, but probably not enough to make a difference. The City of Denver payed this guy $795,000 in damages, so I'm guessing most of what we're reading here is pretty much what happened.
Bad cops being bad. And repeat offenders at that.
 
2013-03-07 09:37:02 AM

chrisco123: Why do the bulk of these comments have racist overtones?


Oh niger please.
 
2013-03-07 09:37:13 AM
What do you expect from the P.D. that wears t-shirts that read "We 'beat' the crowd!".
There was a pic here some time ago. Surprised no one has posted it yet.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:01 AM

Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for


But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...
 
2013-03-07 09:39:18 AM

enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.


That was my thought as well . . . I was surprised when the facts from the blog pretty much matched the national news article:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22553719/denver-police-off ic ers-wont-be-charged-2009-beating

Alexander Landau, 23, said representatives from the department and the FBI called him at about 6:30 p.m. to inform him of the decision.
"They said they didn't feel like they had enough evidence to bring federal charges against any of the officers who were initially involved," Landau said.
 ...
The officers involved are now vindicated, said Nick Rogers, president of the Denver Police Protective Association.
"It's pretty simple: The officers did nothing wrong," he said.
In a separate case, Murr was fired for lying on a police report about an April 2009 incident in Lower Downtown that was caught on videotape, showing officers beating Michael DeHerrera. Nixon was fired in 2011 for lying in a police report about a violent 2009 incident caught on video outside the Denver Diner. He has since been reinstated.
A Police Department roster shows that Middleton also remains on the job.
 
2013-03-07 09:40:38 AM
madeinusacertified.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-07 09:40:47 AM

chrisco123: Why do the bulk of these comments have racist overtones?


I would guess it might be the racist overtones in the `3 white cops beat up a black guy` part of TFA but, you know, that might just be me.
 
2013-03-07 09:42:06 AM

enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.


I'm sure there are missing details in this story, but the cops managed to get them buried.

/oh, wait... were you trying to defend the cops here?
 
2013-03-07 09:42:31 AM
Isolated incident.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:11 AM

enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.


Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.
 
2013-03-07 09:43:43 AM

dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...



Don't you have some Monarch's ass you need to be kissing about now?
 
2013-03-07 09:45:40 AM
As a kid I was taught to respect the police- they were as important as teachers and doctors and lawyers.
Now I see many police departments as a haven for mental defectives.
Most likely the only thing to have changed is my perception.
 
2013-03-07 09:45:48 AM

ChipNASA: AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.

He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?


unfortunately yes
 
2013-03-07 09:46:28 AM
Dude was probably being all truculent and sh*t.
 
2013-03-07 09:47:28 AM
What_happens_if_you_are_black.

(Why do they let people with cerebral palsy film these things?)
 
2013-03-07 09:48:37 AM

Dick Gozinya: Get used to it people. This is what happens when you militarize your police forces. I bet all three of those cops are ex military. Years of brainwashing them into believing everyone and everything is a threat, coupled with hyper-agressive responses to percieved threats results in this kind of shiat happening. Like Rambo said, "you cant just turn it off."





It's over Johnny.


i478.photobucket.com


OVER!!
 
2013-03-07 09:52:21 AM

Benjamin Orr: enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.

Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.


If he didn't "calmly" ask to see a warrant, was confrontational, and upon requests to calm down he refused to obey and upon trying to restrain him he truly was grasping for the officer's weapon? Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie? Bias much? You can make assumptions and it is clear that excessive force was used, but after reading TFA, there is way more to the story. Do you really believe that he calmly asked to see a warrant? Excuse me kind sir, could you produce for me a warrant post haste? I am not prematurely defending the cops here or taking sides, but there sounds like a lot of missing pieces and a lot of lying going on here.
 
2013-03-07 09:52:30 AM
Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.
 
2013-03-07 09:52:43 AM
"Well sir, I don't see any reason to detain you any further. I'm quite sorry to have bothered you. Good day."

/said no cop, ever, anywhere.
 
2013-03-07 09:53:54 AM
While it troubles me to the core that this happened, I can't help but wonder what kind of idiots they have in administration that after paying out $800K to get out of this, that at least one of those involved is still on the force.  Some people, cops included, are just psychopaths, so things like this are going to happen from time to time.  It's tragic, but I think you have to deal with it an move on. But you don't continue to employ people in positions of authority when they've proven that they can't be trusted with that authority.  Something bad will happen again because of that decision.
 
2013-03-07 09:54:36 AM

dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...


Yah yah if we wanted to be the UK we would be already. Keep your smuggness we'll keep our guns.
 
2013-03-07 09:55:17 AM
His first mistake was driving while black
 
2013-03-07 09:56:36 AM

indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.


Cops seem to have done most of the bashing.
 
2013-03-07 09:57:26 AM
dready zim:
But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

RTFA-- they charged him with going for one of the cops' guns. They never claimed he had a gun. And this BS charge would work just fine in ol' Blighty, despite your enlightened gun laws.
 
2013-03-07 09:58:36 AM

simon_bar_sinister: What do you expect from the P.D. that wears t-shirts that read "We 'beat' the crowd!".
There was a pic here some time ago. Surprised no one has posted it yet.


This one?

rlv.zcache.com
 
2013-03-07 09:58:56 AM
The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.
 
2013-03-07 09:58:58 AM

Matthew Keene: [madeinusacertified.files.wordpress.com image 575x433]


cough snopes cough.
 
2013-03-07 09:59:20 AM

Elroydb: His first mistake was driving while black


tvmedia.ign.com

"He's got a gun."
 
2013-03-07 09:59:26 AM

liam76: Kyoki: That's Tiffany Middleton on the left with Chevy Chase during the 2008 DNC

I always thought tifany was a girl's name.


Don't say the to his face.
 
2013-03-07 10:00:03 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie?


At least one of the police in this case are proven liars.

When that guy was caught lying on tape, all the other officers inittially backe dup his story.  That throws the entire depts honestly into question in my book, so yes I am going to believe an average guy before them.
 
2013-03-07 10:00:24 AM

TopoGigo: I love how cops, just like any other gang, start indoctrinating young. Look at the little bacon bit in the back--is he 15?


Everyone knows that "Boyzenblue" are the most dangerous and widespread criminal street gang in America.
 
2013-03-07 10:01:29 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Benjamin Orr: enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.

Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.

If he didn't "calmly" ask to see a warrant, was confrontational, and upon requests to calm down he refused to obey and upon trying to restrain him he truly was grasping for the officer's weapon? Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie? Bias much? You can make assumptions and it is clear that excessive force was used, but after reading TFA, there is way more to the story. Do you really believe that he calmly asked to see a warrant? Excuse me kind sir, could you produce for me a warrant post haste? I am not prematurely defending the cops here or taking sides, but there sounds like a lot of missing pieces and a lot of lying going on here.


So do you think you have to beat somebody that bad because they are being aggressively vocal? Even if he did go after an officers gun the sustained beating that he would have had to suffer to get those injuries would in noway be necessary to stop him.
 
2013-03-07 10:02:07 AM

pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.


The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".
 
2013-03-07 10:03:11 AM
I was wondering when the copsuckers were going to show up to defend the cops.
 
2013-03-07 10:05:29 AM

indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.


Yep, which means tomorrow we have mugshots of those unlucky enough to run into the same cops and make more snarky comments.  Then the next day cats.
 
2013-03-07 10:07:57 AM
It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching
 
2013-03-07 10:08:12 AM
This is why DHS needs to provide more armored vehicles to state an local police Depts.

Aggressive criminals attacking them with their faces is happening more and more.    Surplus US Army MRAPs are being provided now for the safety of officers.    Thank god we have DHS to provide these protections.

"Justice Department reps chose Friday at 6:30 p.m. to inform...."

See,   once again the Justice Dept. thinks of the publics safety and the safety off the thin Blue Line at  the same time.    Release that information at the right time.

You know, so those people don't get too uppity....
 
2013-03-07 10:09:39 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Benjamin Orr: enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.

Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.

If he didn't "calmly" ask to see a warrant, was confrontational, and upon requests to calm down he refused to obey and upon trying to restrain him he truly was grasping for the officer's weapon? Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie? Bias much? You can make assumptions and it is clear that excessive force was used, but after reading TFA, there is way more to the story. Do you really believe that he calmly asked to see a warrant? Excuse me kind sir, could you produce for me a warrant post haste? I am not prematurely defending the cops here or taking sides, but there sounds like a lot of missing pieces and a lot of lying going on here.


They already lost a law suit over it. They insisted he was reaching for his own gun not the cops. He was unarmed and beaten to a pulp. I think those would be the reasons sparky
 
2013-03-07 10:11:24 AM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


Well in the cops defense, she is fat, and she did touch him.
 
2013-03-07 10:12:08 AM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


A Philly cop was just found not guilty of assault where he was filmed sucker-punching a woman at a parade. He mistakenly thought she threw something at her and punched her in the face.
 
2013-03-07 10:12:59 AM
jbt's are always innocent in amerika fascist police state!
 
2013-03-07 10:13:15 AM

fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".


If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.
 
2013-03-07 10:13:51 AM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


She got off easy.  In Florida, he would have shot her then driven to her house and shot her dog.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:22 AM

dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...


I don't know why you think our police would stop abusing their power. Those abuses of power have nothing to do with guns. It it's not a gun they'll just say they though they saw a knife. Or just that he lunged for them. They're already violating the law, abusing their power, abusing a fellow human being and lying... You think any of that changes because less of us law abiding citizens are allowed to own guns?

The problem isn't that ordinary citizens are armed... the problem is that our police officers are effectively largely unaccountable. That and our political class has slowly eviscerated the bill of rights over the last few decades in vain quests to fight vain neverending "wars" on concepts. Banning private ownership of guns does NOTHING to address any of that and would have exactly a 0.0% effect on police brutality.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:36 AM

lack of warmth: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yep, which means tomorrow we have mugshots of those unlucky enough to run into the same cops and make more snarky comments.  Then the next day cats.


If Fark didn't have weekly meme's that it repeats day after day after week after month after year, Fark would cease to exist. It's like a really bad joke. They green light the same stupid argumentative crap (global warming, cop bashing, Canada bashing, French bashing, Jew bashing, Muslim bashing and other assorted stupid tidbits) threat after thread.
 
2013-03-07 10:17:44 AM

pkellmey: If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.


And by who's account did he step forward? The cops who beat the living shiat out of him and lied about him having a gun? Somehow I have trouble taking their word for anything.
 
2013-03-07 10:19:34 AM
ACAB
 
2013-03-07 10:20:06 AM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


That's just...wow.  I mean, the cop was stupid in the first place trying whatever odd takedown he was going for (I think he was trying a hip throw--he moved his right leg in--but at arms length?).  A group that size and you decide to "attempt" to restrain one of them without any backup?
 
2013-03-07 10:20:07 AM
As a police officer for over three years, I can tell you this much - there's nothing more satisfying than pulling back your elbow after a solid punch and seeing your middle knuckle split wide open, blood running down the back of your hand, the two sides of the flesh folded back like convecting lava.  fark, now I want to hit somebody.
 
2013-03-07 10:20:43 AM

tricycleracer: Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching

She got off easy.  In Florida, he would have shot her then driven to her house and shot her dog.


===============

In California, the police were looking for a big, black ex-cop driving a silver pickup, so there first reaction was to shoot up a blue pickup with two little hispanic women inside.   Makes sense, they could have been a large black man pretending to be two little hispanic women.
 
2013-03-07 10:24:05 AM

pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.


Here's my issue with it.  A college kid that is smart enough to ask for a warrant to search the vehicle might take a step or two forward, but I doubt he would be dumb enough to get "all up in dat pigz grill," especially when outnumbered by an openly aggressive force.

He took a step forward and ran into a fist for being uppity.  Then, after a few minutes of beating, he remembered he had one of those nifty invisible guns and went for it.
 
2013-03-07 10:24:13 AM
Clearly the current Justice Department is racist, being that it's lead be a white Republican and all.
 
2013-03-07 10:25:11 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Benjamin Orr: enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.

Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.

If he didn't "calmly" ask to see a warrant, was confrontational, and upon requests to calm down he refused to obey and upon trying to restrain him he truly was grasping for the officer's weapon? Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie? Bias much? You can make assumptions and it is clear that excessive force was used, but after reading TFA, there is way more to the story. Do you really believe that he calmly asked to see a warrant? Excuse me kind sir, could you produce for me a warrant post haste? I am not prematurely defending the cops here or taking sides, but there sounds like a lot of missing pieces and a lot of lying going on here.


So you've got nothing.

I don't care if he was confrontational or didn't lick their boots quickly enough. Even if he went for a gun they had no right to beat him like that.

Plus that whole part where they already gave him almost 800k for being in the wrong.
 
2013-03-07 10:26:10 AM

Fissile: tricycleracer: Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching

She got off easy.  In Florida, he would have shot her then driven to her house and shot her dog.

===============

In California, the police were looking for a big, black ex-cop driving a silver pickup, so there first reaction was to shoot up a blue pickup with two little hispanic women inside.   Makes sense, they could have been a large black man pretending to be two little hispanic women.


I don't have the link to the article from the other day, but what about the guy that ran from the cops, then gets rammed in his driveway and a single office unloads 40+ rounds.  At no point do any of the other cops suggest he might want to, you know, conserve ammunition.  That crap's expensive these days.
 
2013-03-07 10:26:48 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.


That's what I came here to say
 
2013-03-07 10:27:38 AM
Stuff like this would NEVER happen in America if we had a *black* President.
 
2013-03-07 10:28:20 AM

miscreant: And by who's account did he step forward? The cops who beat the living shiat out of him and lied about him having a gun? Somehow I have trouble taking their word for anything.


The Justice Department, guided by the FBI, is usually pretty good at jumping at the chance to level civil rights violations when the have the evidence. Apparently, they were okay with the statements that they received in this case. Cops can lie, but in this case I don't believe the statements of the accuser any more than the cops side.
 
2013-03-07 10:28:53 AM

Fissile: In California, the police were looking for a big, black ex-cop driving a silver pickup, so there first reaction was to shoot up a blue pickup with two little hispanic women inside.   Makes sense, they could have been a large black man pretending to be two little hispanic women.


i46.tinypic.com

Turns out it was two hispanic midgets pretending to be a large black guy.
 
2013-03-07 10:28:54 AM

ChipNASA: Stuff like this would NEVER happen in America if we had a *black* President.


You would've convinced me had you employed italics.
 
2013-03-07 10:29:20 AM

pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.


Jesus tittyfarking christ on a cracker. Just make sure to say yahsir and nahsir like a good boy and the cops won't hurt you?

These cops should be under the jail and the lack of outrage from people who instead blame the victim is a big part of the problem.
 
2013-03-07 10:29:21 AM

indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.


Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.
 
2013-03-07 10:29:32 AM

spentmiles: As a police officer for over three years, I can tell you this much - there's nothing more satisfying than pulling back your elbow after a solid punch and seeing your middle knuckle split wide open, blood running down the back of your hand, the two sides of the flesh folded back like convecting lava.  fark, now I want to hit somebody.


I love you.

/no homo
 
2013-03-07 10:32:49 AM

pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.


Serve and protect I'm pretty sure you are forgetting that part.
 
2013-03-07 10:34:02 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-07 10:35:44 AM

pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.



1. And why should he give them permission? What use are rights if you don't excercise them?
2. In what way does asserting your rights excuse police victimizing someone?
3. The limits of your imagination aren't the basis for jurisprudence in America.
4. You'd make the worst rape-crisis counselor ever with your "blame the victim" attitude. This is also a big part of the problem, as the police not only are effectively without oversight but when many in the public share your acquiescent attitude towards abusive police that saps the wholly righteous public outrage which might otherwise force the changes we need.
 
2013-03-07 10:36:53 AM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


He shouldn't have done that but I don't blame him.
 
2013-03-07 10:37:08 AM

Kyoki: [www.ttellc.net image 809x607]

That's Tiffany Middleton on the left with Chevy Chase during the 2008 DNC. I posted this in the last thread on this subject. I'm not even a bit surprised at this decision and the DPD actions.


Jesus christ, that's not a man?
 
2013-03-07 10:38:01 AM

dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...


blog.moveguides.com
 
2013-03-07 10:41:20 AM

pkellmey: The Justice Department, guided by the FBI, is usually pretty good at jumping at the chance to level civil rights violations when the have the evidence. Apparently, they were okay with the statements that they received in this case. Cops can lie, but in this case I don't believe the statements of the accuser any more than the cops side.


No? Why not? What has the accuser done to earn your distrust? Two of the cops involved in this were subsequently fired for other infractions, that hardly speaks to their impeccable character. On the balance of evidence so far, I think I'd take the accuser's word over theirs. Does that mean that the FBI thinks they have enough evidence to actually charge them? No. But at this point if there are competing versions of the story, I'll believe the one that doesn't come from the guys who have been shown to be power hungry douchebags who like to use excessive force.
 
2013-03-07 10:41:59 AM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching



Not in any way defending these particular officer's actions, but I think your conclusion "most cops today are out of control sociopaths" isn't really supported by the data you cite. The "out of control sociopaths" are more likely to make the news (reporting bias*).

/*CSB on reporting bias: I've run into several people who claim that things were made better back in the old days, based on the fact that the stuff that's still around from back then tends to be really well made.
 
2013-03-07 10:42:02 AM

Benjamin Orr: the money is in the banana stand: Benjamin Orr: enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.

Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.

If he didn't "calmly" ask to see a warrant, was confrontational, and upon requests to calm down he refused to obey and upon trying to restrain him he truly was grasping for the officer's weapon? Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie? Bias much? You can make assumptions and it is clear that excessive force was used, but after reading TFA, there is way more to the story. Do you really believe that he calmly asked to see a warrant? Excuse me kind sir, could you produce for me a warrant post haste? I am not prematurely defending the cops here or taking sides, but there sounds like a lot of missing pieces and a lot of lying going on here.

So you've got nothing.

I don't care if he was confrontational or didn't lick their boots quickly enough. Even if he went for a gun they had no right to beat him like that.

Plus that whole part where they already gave him almost 800k for being in the wrong.


You do realize I am not arguing that the cops are innocent parties right, just that there are a lot of the details of the story left out. Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).
 
2013-03-07 10:44:41 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Benjamin Orr: the money is in the banana stand: Benjamin Orr: enik: Why yes, I'm sure there are no other missing details in this story.

Please let us know what details could have been missed that would allow the police to beat someone as badly as they beat this guy.

If he didn't "calmly" ask to see a warrant, was confrontational, and upon requests to calm down he refused to obey and upon trying to restrain him he truly was grasping for the officer's weapon? Why is it when a civilian makes a statement against police it is infallible, yet when the police respond, it is always a lie? Bias much? You can make assumptions and it is clear that excessive force was used, but after reading TFA, there is way more to the story. Do you really believe that he calmly asked to see a warrant? Excuse me kind sir, could you produce for me a warrant post haste? I am not prematurely defending the cops here or taking sides, but there sounds like a lot of missing pieces and a lot of lying going on here.

So you've got nothing.

I don't care if he was confrontational or didn't lick their boots quickly enough. Even if he went for a gun they had no right to beat him like that.

Plus that whole part where they already gave him almost 800k for being in the wrong.

You do realize I am not arguing that the cops are innocent parties right, just that there are a lot of the details of the story left out. Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).


And I am saying that cops are supposed to be held to a higher standard than a roving gang of street thugs.
 
2013-03-07 10:46:28 AM

StoPPeRmobile: dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...


blog.moveguides.com

Somebody needs to wipe that crap off of Texas. That's disgusting.
 
2013-03-07 10:48:24 AM
I'm expected to believe that the police in this case went into that rage merely because the guy asked for a warrant before they searched his trunk, huh? Doubt it. Look, I know everyone here on Fark is anti-police, and I'm not trying to suggest they're entirely noble individuals all the time, but things don't add up here.

There was clearly brutality here. That's easy to see. Is that type of beating ever necessary? No, certainly not. I'm suggesting the victim's version of events is not accurate either. My guess is he mouthed off continually, suggesting he was being pulled over strictly because he was black, playing the race card, and generally being uncooperative until the police had enough and tried to restrain him. He probably then fought back, maybe even tried to reach for the officer's gun during the struggle.

So yeah-- the police in this case are scum. But my guess is so is the victim. Regardless, no behavior deserves that end result.
 
2013-03-07 10:49:31 AM
Militarization and increased training of brutality by the police.

The only good cop is a dead cop.

/seen firsthand what cops will do to people who question their authority...they end up in our ER all the time.
 
2013-03-07 10:49:39 AM

spentmiles: As a police officer for over three years, I can tell you this much - there's nothing more satisfying than pulling back your elbow after a solid punch and seeing your middle knuckle split wide open, blood running down the back of your hand, the two sides of the flesh folded back like convecting lava.  fark, now I want to hit somebody.


I used to masturbate that way. Just grab li'l Hitler (my pet name for the dick formerly known as Wang Chung) in my left hand chicken choker style and just wail on the knob with my right fist. The endorphin rush is unbelievable. I do recommend you remove any rings with protrusions or stones, though. Going to the veterinarian at three a.m. and forcing them to remove melee from your bell-end at gunpoint is not much fun; hobnobbing with your union rep and IA when the veterinarian files charges is even less fun.

Good thing veterinarians work with dogs though; it's easy to arrange for them to be in the room with a dog named Chopper.

/Case dismissed.
 
2013-03-07 10:49:44 AM
Denver cops are bad news.  I live in Denver and pretty much just sit around hoping that I don't need to have any dealings with them ever.  If they decide to fark you over they're going to and they're going to get away with it.
 
2013-03-07 10:49:54 AM
"brutally beat him with federal civil rights violations"

It's not enough that they brutally beat him. It's not enough that they violated his civil rights. But beating him with civil rights violations? That's just awful.
 
2013-03-07 10:50:01 AM
"Don't you just hate cops?"
"Nooo. But I feel better when they're not around."

www.beatscene.net
 
2013-03-07 10:50:37 AM
the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.
 
2013-03-07 10:53:25 AM

monoski: Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching

A Philly cop was just found not guilty of assault where he was filmed sucker-punching a woman at a parade. He mistakenly thought she threw something at her and punched her in the face.


She threw something at herself?
 
2013-03-07 10:55:42 AM

WinoRhino: I'm expected to believe that the police in this case went into that rage merely because the guy asked for a warrant before they searched his trunk, huh? Doubt it. Look, I know everyone here on Fark is anti-police, and I'm not trying to suggest they're entirely noble individuals all the time, but things don't add up here.


You think that the type of guys who would use the excessive brutality displayed in this case would need more than the challenge to authority that asking for a warrant entails to go into a rage?
 
2013-03-07 10:56:20 AM

Fissile: tricycleracer: Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching

She got off easy.  In Florida, he would have shot her then driven to her house and shot her dog.

===============

In California, the police were looking for a big, black ex-cop driving a silver pickup, so there first reaction was to shoot up a blue pickup with two little hispanic women inside.   Makes sense, they could have been a large black man pretending to be two little hispanic women.


Conservation of Mass is the law, kid. You got a problem with cops enforcing the law?
 
2013-03-07 11:00:06 AM
It may be time for citizens to start "cleaning up" the police forces in cases like this.  It's abundantly clear that the government never will.
 
2013-03-07 11:01:29 AM
DPD is the Wooden Shampoo champions!!
 
2013-03-07 11:01:46 AM

lilbjorn: It may be time for citizens to start "cleaning up" the police forces in cases like this.  It's abundantly clear that the government never will.


cdn.newsday.com
 
2013-03-07 11:01:58 AM

lilbjorn: It may be time for citizens to start "cleaning up" the police forces in cases like this.  It's abundantly clear that the government never will.


We had one like that a few weeks ago. They identified the body using dental records once the fire finally went out.
 
2013-03-07 11:02:25 AM
Lookin' for a fist to put your face in
 
2013-03-07 11:03:08 AM

Marshal805: monoski: Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching

A Philly cop was just found not guilty of assault where he was filmed sucker-punching a woman at a parade. He mistakenly thought she threw something at her and punched her in the face.

She threw something at herself?


Oops, sorry; threw something at him...
 
2013-03-07 11:04:22 AM

StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.


It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.
 
2013-03-07 11:06:41 AM

StoPPeRmobile: dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...

[blog.moveguides.com image 466x219]


I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Population of the UK: 62 million
Population of Texas: 26 million.
 
2013-03-07 11:07:57 AM
Why does it take three cops to handle someone making a left turn?
 
2013-03-07 11:07:59 AM
Nixon, you dolt!

/Oblig
 
2013-03-07 11:13:33 AM
Heh, screw this idiot
 and screw the denver pd

victimless situation...like necrophilia
 
2013-03-07 11:13:46 AM

dready zim: It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...


Jamaica vs. Switzerland. Compare and contrast. Discuss.
 
2013-03-07 11:13:49 AM

the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.

It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.


Sorry, bootlicker, but we don't live in a country where cops are allowed to bestow whatever type of physical punishment upon you they wish if you attack them.

If you try and take a cop's gun you deserve enoguh force to stop and restrain you, that is it.
 
2013-03-07 11:15:18 AM

the money is in the banana stand: . In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.


Uh huh.  And in cases like this where the victim was being beaten to within an inch of his life and likely thought as much, what should happen to them if they reach for their assailant's gun?
 
2013-03-07 11:16:48 AM
liam76:Sorry, bootlicker, but we don't live in a country where cops are allowed to bestow whatever type of physical punishment upon you they wish if you attack them.

Well, apparently we do.  We shouldn't, but we do.
 
2013-03-07 11:19:22 AM

liam76: the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.

It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

Sorry, bootlicker, but we don't live in a country where cops are allowed to bestow whatever type of physical punishment upon you they wish if you attack them.

If you try and take a cop's gun you deserve enoguh force to stop and restrain you, that is it.


Seriously? If someone is actively trying to kill a cop then your solution is to use "enough" force to restrain them? Wow.
 
2013-03-07 11:20:54 AM

Weigard: Why does it take three cops to handle someone making a left turn?


He was making a left turn while being black.
 
2013-03-07 11:21:30 AM
Don't be ignorant.
Be polite
Turn that shiat off
Get a white friend
Never drive with a mad woman
 
2013-03-07 11:22:43 AM

StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: . In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

Uh huh.  And in cases like this where the victim was being beaten to within an inch of his life and likely thought as much, what should happen to them if they reach for their assailant's gun?


In this case the victim would be defending themselves. This is a very simple principle here. In this case the cops were the aggressors. In cases where the cops are not the aggressors but defenders, I have problem with them doing whatever it takes to defend themselves. If the cops were the aggressors, I would support the victim likewise doing whatever it took to defend themselves.
 
2013-03-07 11:24:32 AM

Weigard: Why does it take three cops to handle someone making a left turn?


It could've been a car full of Nascar fans.  More likely if they made four left turns.
 
2013-03-07 11:25:59 AM

indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cops bashing a guys head in thread on fark. It must be Thursday.


/ftfy
//not a cop hater, but this story sucks
 
2013-03-07 11:27:44 AM

Psycoholic_Slag: Dude was probably being all truculent and sh*t.


www.parkscomputing.com

Thinks the cops are just being total dicks, man.
 
2013-03-07 11:28:52 AM

the money is in the banana stand: liam76: the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.

It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

Sorry, bootlicker, but we don't live in a country where cops are allowed to bestow whatever type of physical punishment upon you they wish if you attack them.

If you try and take a cop's gun you deserve enoguh force to stop and restrain you, that is it.

Seriously? If someone is actively trying to kill a cop then your solution is to use "enough" force to restrain them? Wow.


Yes. That's why they get the big bucks. It's for a judge to decide punishment. Cops are there to arrange the meeting. Just like a private citizen, the cops lose their justification for violence once the threat ends.
 
2013-03-07 11:28:58 AM
I guess the guy should have listened to the police order to allow the search of his car.
 
2013-03-07 11:29:39 AM

the money is in the banana stand: liam76: the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.

It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

Sorry, bootlicker, but we don't live in a country where cops are allowed to bestow whatever type of physical punishment upon you they wish if you attack them.

If you try and take a cop's gun you deserve enoguh force to stop and restrain you, that is it.

Seriously? If someone is actively trying to kill a cop then your solution is to use "enough" force to restrain them? Wow.


If they have a gun and are about to shott a cop, or have it pointed at a cop, I am fine with them shooting them.

What they can't do, and what you said they could do (underlined above, bootlicker) is beat them as much as they like for being "violent".
 
2013-03-07 11:30:49 AM

the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.

It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.


No... No they don't. Fighting back against police does not mean they get to beat you like that.
 
2013-03-07 11:31:53 AM

the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: . In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

Uh huh.  And in cases like this where the victim was being beaten to within an inch of his life and likely thought as much, what should happen to them if they reach for their assailant's gun?

In this case the victim would be defending themselves. This is a very simple principle here. In this case the cops were the aggressors. In cases where the cops are not the aggressors but defenders, I have problem with them doing whatever it takes to defend themselves. If the cops were the aggressors, I would support the victim likewise doing whatever it took to defend themselves.


The bells that end boxing rounds must really piss you off.
 
2013-03-07 11:32:50 AM

the money is in the banana stand: liam76: the money is in the banana stand: StrangeQ: the money is in the banana stand: Also, if someone goes for a gun and tries to kill a police officer someone who is mercilessly attacking them, they deserve likewise to be shot (not that the victim in this case went for a gun).

It's funny how when you insert reality, bootlicking statements like this make absolutely no sense.

It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

Sorry, bootlicker, but we don't live in a country where cops are allowed to bestow whatever type of physical punishment upon you they wish if you attack them.

If you try and take a cop's gun you deserve enoguh force to stop and restrain you, that is it.

Seriously? If someone is actively trying to kill a cop then your solution is to use "enough" force to restrain them? Wow.


Trying to take a gun is not actively trying to kill a cop. Having the gun maybe.

Still not justifaction to beat the living shiat out of somebody. Did you even look at the pictures?
 
2013-03-07 11:34:21 AM

Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for


So when are the gun owners going to do something about this, rather than just be internet tough guys?
 
2013-03-07 11:39:45 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Seriously? If someone is actively trying to kill a cop then your solution is to use "enough" force to restrain them? Wow.


So wait, in your mind, once the cops have neutralized the threat using "enough" force, they should just keep beating the guy until their arms give out? Wow indeed.
 
2013-03-07 11:39:59 AM

Koodz: Yes. That's why they get the big bucks. It's for a judge to decide punishment. Cops are there to arrange the meeting. Just like a private citizen, the cops lose their justification for violence once the threat ends.


Very well said.
 
2013-03-07 11:40:43 AM

mongbiohazard: Unbelievable. Well, except for it being totally believable because this kind of shiat happens on a pretty regular basis.


And what would you estimate is the frequency of this?
 
2013-03-07 11:40:52 AM

s2s2s2: I guess the guy should have listened to the police order to allow the search of his car.



No, the police should have secured a legal warrant rather then beating the shiat out of him for simply asking them to do their jobs lawfully.
 
2013-03-07 11:44:05 AM

Benjamin Orr: It's funny how you COMPLETELY missed the part where I said (not that the victim in this case went for a gun). Reading comprehension is difficult. I was not addressing this particular case. The Boobieser said there is no circumstance that anyone should have been beaten that bad, which isn't true. In cases where the person(s) being arrested is violent and tries to bring harm or kill the arresting officer, they deserve whatever force is then bestowed upon them.

No... No they don't. Fighting back against police does not mean they get to beat you like that.


He seems to be confusing maintaining law and order with also having the right to dole out punishment. This was not how the system was designed but does seem to be the way it is implemented in many cases. Videos of people curled up on the ground and being pummeled with nightsticks are pretty f*ck'd up makes us look like some third world police state.
 
2013-03-07 11:47:43 AM

trappedspirit: mongbiohazard: Unbelievable. Well, except for it being totally believable because this kind of shiat happens on a pretty regular basis.

And what would you estimate is the frequency of this?


There are stories of it occuring pretty much on a daily basis. Unfortunately much of it is not reported, and that which is reported is often swept under the rug without as much fanfare as in this case. So way too goddamn often.
 
2013-03-07 11:49:24 AM

mongbiohazard: trappedspirit: mongbiohazard: Unbelievable. Well, except for it being totally believable because this kind of shiat happens on a pretty regular basis.

And what would you estimate is the frequency of this?

There are stories of it occuring pretty much on a daily basis. Unfortunately much of it is not reported, and that which is reported is often swept under the rug without as much fanfare as in this case. So way too goddamn often.


Federalize police conduct investigations.
 
2013-03-07 11:49:35 AM
Go Dorner, Go Dorner!

No wait, shiat.
 
2013-03-07 11:50:58 AM
Cop needs a bullet through his head. It's the only way he's going to learn.
 
2013-03-07 11:53:19 AM
Not all cops are pigs but all pigs are cops
 
2013-03-07 12:00:53 PM

spentshells: pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.

Serve and protect I'm pretty sure you are forgetting that part.


The Supreme Court of the United States did.
 
2013-03-07 12:02:18 PM

browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.


Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.
 
2013-03-07 12:11:05 PM

indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.


Race and job choice are hardly comparable.
Yep, you're an idiot.
 
2013-03-07 12:11:24 PM

indarwinsshadow: Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot


Can you find me an example of a cop being fired and charged for police brutality on the testimony of fellow officers?
 
2013-03-07 12:12:16 PM

indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.


It's not every day but it is every week.

Have we gotten all the bad apples yet?
 
2013-03-07 12:28:46 PM

Electrify: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

So when are the gun owners going to do something about this, rather than just be internet tough guys?


So now its a gun onwers job to weed out asshole cops? Isn't that what IA is for? Use some logic little fella, just dont hurt yourself.
 
2013-03-07 12:28:54 PM

WinoRhino: I'm expected to believe that the police in this case went into that rage merely because the guy asked for a warrant before they searched his trunk, huh? Doubt it. Look, I know everyone here on Fark is anti-police, and I'm not trying to suggest they're entirely noble individuals all the time, but things don't add up here.

There was clearly brutality here. That's easy to see. Is that type of beating ever necessary? No, certainly not. I'm suggesting the victim's version of events is not accurate either. My guess is he mouthed off continually, suggesting he was being pulled over strictly because he was black, playing the race card, and generally being uncooperative until the police had enough and tried to restrain him. He probably then fought back, maybe even tried to reach for the officer's gun during the struggle.

So yeah-- the police in this case are scum. But my guess is so is the victim. Regardless, no behavior deserves that end result.


Have you ever been pulled over for an "illegal left turn"?
 
2013-03-07 12:34:35 PM

Onkel Buck: Electrify: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

So when are the gun owners going to do something about this, rather than just be internet tough guys?

So now its a gun onwers job to weed out asshole cops? Isn't that what IA is for? Use some logic little fella, just dont hurt yourself.


Wouldn't it be nice if the health department opened up a chain of restaurants? Grade A, all the way.
 
2013-03-07 12:36:13 PM

StoPPeRmobile: spentshells: pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.

Serve and protect I'm pretty sure you are forgetting that part.

The Supreme Court of the United States did.


My local police department has never had that as part of their motto, and it's not even in the oaths they take for the job. Hmm, maybe they aren't even real cops after all. I also noticed the pesky post office workers don't always deliver when there is too much snow. I wonder if I should start asking for their credentials as well.
 
2013-03-07 12:42:02 PM

indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.


pkellmey: StoPPeRmobile: spentshells: pkellmey: fireclown: pkellmey: The thing we learned today, kiddies, is the same throughout space and time - don't try to act tougher than the people who carry weapons for a living. They usually have the attitude that went with the job in the first place. Be extremely nice and respectful and never, ever, step towards them in a menacing fashion and/or with a stupid attitude.

The stupid attitude in this case being "follow the law".

If he would've given permission, no warrant required. I can't imagine someone stepping into a copy while asking, "Where's your warrant?" in anything less than an agressive fashion. I'm not saying they didn't need a warrant, but there are better ways to not become a victim.

Serve and protect I'm pretty sure you are forgetting that part.

The Supreme Court of the United States did.

My local police department has never had that as part of their motto, and it's not even in the oaths they take for the job. Hmm, maybe they aren't even real cops after all. I also noticed the pesky post office workers don't always deliver when there is too much snow. I wonder if I should start asking for their credentials as well.


A good citizen suspects everyone.
 
2013-03-07 12:44:08 PM

indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.


Hey at least you get to feel superior. Too bad you lack skills.

Ching Chong! Asians in the Library Song
 
2013-03-07 12:49:19 PM
So, after the beating, with or without warrant, did they find anything in his trunk?
 
2013-03-07 01:08:25 PM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


Meh, that one's clearly just the cop trying to protect his vest pocket doughnut hole stash.
 
2013-03-07 01:09:49 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.

Race and job choice are hardly comparable.
Yep, you're an idiot.


Says the turd bag who posts dumb sh*t day after day. Pot, kettle, kettle, pot.

Go f*ck yourself Abe.
 
2013-03-07 01:20:36 PM

indarwinsshadow: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.

Race and job choice are hardly comparable.
Yep, you're an idiot.

Says the turd bag who posts dumb sh*t day after day. Pot, kettle, kettle, pot.

Go f*ck yourself Abe.


I'll just place this right here.
home.roadrunner.com
There we go.
 
2013-03-07 01:22:51 PM

ChipNASA: "Well sir, I don't see any reason to detain you any further. I'm quite sorry to have bothered you. Good day."

/said no cop, ever, anywhere.


Perhaps not in the USA but it happens regularly in countries where the police are expected to uphold the law, rather than be a law unto themselves.

Its actually pretty sad to see this, along with all those other beatings, and the shootings at people drivings cars that didn't look vaguely dissimilar to the one being driven by that cop killer a while back. For us in the West, the US is kind of like 'big daddy'. Its not for nothing that POTUS is globally referred to as Leader of the Free World. We kind of look up to you, or at least try to.

So its pretty depressing to see the way the US is regressing. The land whose cause Thomas Paine described as being the cause of all mankind, seems to be degenerating into a vicious police state filled with paranoid, armed, religious fundamentalists, where even the rule of law being eroded.
 
2013-03-07 01:27:35 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Ching Chong! Asians in the Library Song

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-07 01:29:10 PM

jonewer: ChipNASA: "Well sir, I don't see any reason to detain you any further. I'm quite sorry to have bothered you. Good day."

/said no cop, ever, anywhere.

Perhaps not in the USA but it happens regularly in countries where the police are expected to uphold the law, rather than be a law unto themselves.

Its actually pretty sad to see this, along with all those other beatings, and the shootings at people drivings cars that didn't look vaguely dissimilar to the one being driven by that cop killer a while back. For us in the West, the US is kind of like 'big daddy'. Its not for nothing that POTUS is globally referred to as Leader of the Free World. We kind of look up to you, or at least try to.

So its pretty depressing to see the way the US is regressing. The land whose cause Thomas Paine described as being the cause of all mankind, seems to be degenerating into a vicious police state filled with paranoid, armed, religious fundamentalists, where even the rule of law being eroded.



In day to day interactions, I'll take Thailand's police over the USA's.
 
2013-03-07 01:32:57 PM

Earguy: So, after the beating, with or without warrant, did they find anything in his trunk?


yep, the stuff they planted in there was right where they expected to find it
 
2013-03-07 01:35:15 PM

BafflerMeal: jonewer: ChipNASA: "Well sir, I don't see any reason to detain you any further. I'm quite sorry to have bothered you. Good day."

/said no cop, ever, anywhere.

Perhaps not in the USA but it happens regularly in countries where the police are expected to uphold the law, rather than be a law unto themselves.

Its actually pretty sad to see this, along with all those other beatings, and the shootings at people drivings cars that didn't look vaguely dissimilar to the one being driven by that cop killer a while back. For us in the West, the US is kind of like 'big daddy'. Its not for nothing that POTUS is globally referred to as Leader of the Free World. We kind of look up to you, or at least try to.

So its pretty depressing to see the way the US is regressing. The land whose cause Thomas Paine described as being the cause of all mankind, seems to be degenerating into a vicious police state filled with paranoid, armed, religious fundamentalists, where even the rule of law being eroded.


In day to day interactions, I'll take Thailand's police over the USA's.


It depends on where you live in the US. The officers in my town are very polite, but one city over they have the power and like to display it with their attitude. Everything is subjective to the environment you live in.
 
2013-03-07 01:36:55 PM
pkellmey:

It depends on where you live in the US. The officers in my town are very polite, but one city over they have the power and like to display it with their attitude. Everything is subjective to the environment you live in.

Another thing thats strange to me, there arent any national (ie federal) standards for law enforcement?
 
2013-03-07 01:39:27 PM

indarwinsshadow: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.

Race and job choice are hardly comparable.
Yep, you're an idiot.

Says the turd bag who posts dumb sh*t day after day. Pot, kettle, kettle, pot.

Go f*ck yourself Abe.


i47.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-07 01:39:54 PM
I went to college out in Colorado. Coming from small town police (where the Police Chief was literally my neighbor), the Denver Police Officers scared the hell out of me. They weren't just strict, they were assholes that knew they wouldn't get in trouble and so farked with people.
 
2013-03-07 01:45:01 PM

Koodz: lilbjorn: It may be time for citizens to start "cleaning up" the police forces in cases like this.  It's abundantly clear that the government never will.

We had one like that a few weeks ago. They identified the body using dental records once the fire finally went out.


yeah but he took 4 out before he went out in flames .. those are good odds for the 'good' guys.
 
2013-03-07 01:49:22 PM
If the officers did no wrong, why did they give the victim a big pile of money?
 
2013-03-07 02:18:32 PM

Mega Steve: If the officers did no wrong, why did they give the victim a big pile of money?


Nice guys, obviously.
 
2013-03-07 02:42:37 PM

liam76: indarwinsshadow: Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot

Can you find me an example of a cop being fired and charged for police brutality on the testimony of fellow officers?


That's . . . a surprisingly difficult task. I have to admit, I tend to be biased towards the police (I know a couple in my town, and all my interactions with the police have ranged from mild annoyance to moderately positive), but the difficulty of finding anything to refute your challenge makes for a pretty strong argument. A couple of times, I thought I'd found a counterexample whistleblower; however, I'd always change my mind after reading what happened to that whistleblower.

tldr: challenge denied - too difficult for me
 
2013-03-07 02:48:27 PM

Electrify: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

So when are the gun owners going to do something about this, rather than just be internet tough guys?


Milk and cookies on the keyboard... Your awesome makes my day a bit less shiatty!

/take a bow
//ya earned it
 
2013-03-07 03:10:34 PM
www.movieactors.com

draypresct: liam76: indarwinsshadow: Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot

Can you find me an example of a cop being fired and charged for police brutality on the testimony of fellow officers?

That's . . . a surprisingly difficult task. I have to admit, I tend to be biased towards the police (I know a couple in my town, and all my interactions with the police have ranged from mild annoyance to moderately positive), but the difficulty of finding anything to refute your challenge makes for a pretty strong argument. A couple of times, I thought I'd found a counterexample whistleblower; however, I'd always change my mind after reading what happened to that whistleblower.

tldr: challenge denied - too difficult for me

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2013-03-07 03:12:20 PM

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draypresct: liam76: indarwinsshadow: Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot

Can you find me an example of a cop being fired and charged for police brutality on the testimony of fellow officers?

That's . . . a surprisingly difficult task. I have to admit, I tend to be biased towards the police (I know a couple in my town, and all my interactions with the police have ranged from mild annoyance to moderately positive), but the difficulty of finding anything to refute your challenge makes for a pretty strong argument. A couple of times, I thought I'd found a counterexample whistleblower; however, I'd always change my mind after reading what happened to that whistleblower.

tldr: challenge denied - too difficult for me
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I really miss that crazy SOB.  One of the many that left far too early.
 
2013-03-07 03:13:07 PM

draypresct: liam76: indarwinsshadow: Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot

Can you find me an example of a cop being fired and charged for police brutality on the testimony of fellow officers?

That's . . . a surprisingly difficult task. I have to admit, I tend to be biased towards the police (I know a couple in my town, and all my interactions with the police have ranged from mild annoyance to moderately positive), but the difficulty of finding anything to refute your challenge makes for a pretty strong argument. A couple of times, I thought I'd found a counterexample whistleblower; however, I'd always change my mind after reading what happened to that whistleblower.

tldr: challenge denied - too difficult for me


Ohh please Police Abuse and Corruption isn't even a matter of debate anymore.

Anyone arguing against the existence of wide spread police abuse and the resulting cover ups are either ignorant to the situation as a result of not doing any sort of research into the issue or is being disingenuous towards the discussion.

Which are you being?

Seeing as you freely admit you can't find a single instance of an officer being fired or charged as a result of a fellow officers testimony all the while officers have been charged and convicted of Police Abuse in extreme circumstances, I'm going to go with the later, you're being disingenuous towards the discussion because it suits your world view.
 
2013-03-07 03:13:33 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.

Race and job choice are hardly comparable.
Yep, you're an idiot.

Says the turd bag who posts dumb sh*t day after day. Pot, kettle, kettle, pot.

Go f*ck yourself Abe.

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2013-03-07 03:21:32 PM

indarwinsshadow: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: indarwinsshadow: browntimmy: indarwinsshadow: Oh look. Another cop bashing thread on fark. It must be Thursday.

Yes, can't we all just agree to ignore the egregious corruption and brutal behavior that happens on a daily basis? Let's talk about the heroic stuff they do, like sitting all day in their cars waiting to hand out speeding tickets to moms in mini vans.

Congratulations. You're a biggot. No different than the SFB (sh*t for brains) who thinks all blacks are criminals, all asians talk "chingchong" and are good at math, or any of the other typical bullsh*t people make up to justify their warped views of the world.
Yep. You're an idiot.

Race and job choice are hardly comparable.
Yep, you're an idiot.

Says the turd bag who posts dumb sh*t day after day. Pot, kettle, kettle, pot.

Go f*ck yourself Abe.

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You do realize the only thing you're accomplishing is reinforcing how ignorant towards the situation you are.

If you took less than an hour to do honest research into Police Abuse and the corresponding cover ups you would have all the the information you need in order to make an informed and educated decision regarding the issue.

Instead you fall for troll attempts to get a rise out of you because that's all your good for. You're far to ignorant towards the current discussion to try and reason with so the only option left for people is to troll you and try to get some sort of fun out of your horribly uninformed opinions.

Here's a start if you'd like, I live in New Orleans, here's a report from the Department of Justice blasting the NOPD for blatant Civil Rights violations and procedural misconduct. It's really not hard to find when you actually want to find the information.

http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/spl/nopd.php

We found that the NOPD has engaged in patterns of misconduct that violate the Constitution and federal law, including a pattern or practice of excessive force, and of illegal stops, searches, and arrests. We found also a pattern or practice of gender discrimination in the Department's under-enforcement and under-investigation of violence against women. We further found strong indications of discriminatory policing based on racial, ethnic, and LGBT bias, as well as a failure to provide critical police services to language minority communities. On July 24, 2012, we reached a settlement resolving our investigation and asked the Court to make our settlement an order enforceable by the Court. On January 11, 2013, the Court approved the agreement.
 
2013-03-07 03:21:34 PM

mongbiohazard: s2s2s2: I guess the guy should have listened to the police order to allow the search of his car.


No, the police should have secured a legal warrant rather then beating the shiat out of him for simply asking them to do their jobs lawfully.


Nope. That cop suggested that a search was in order. We all know that when a police suggestion is ignored, people will get hurt.
 
909
2013-03-07 03:23:06 PM

spentshells: ChipNASA: AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.

He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?

unfortunately yes


Or is that, unfortunately no?
 
2013-03-07 03:29:32 PM

s2s2s2: mongbiohazard: s2s2s2: I guess the guy should have listened to the police order to allow the search of his car.


No, the police should have secured a legal warrant rather then beating the shiat out of him for simply asking them to do their jobs lawfully.

Nope. That cop suggested that a search was in order. We all know that when a police suggestion is ignored, people will get hurt.


That's exactly what people are disgusted with and why you see the contempt and utter hatred for the Police Force in America you are starting to find more and more in the comment sections of articles like this.

The law can only protect you for so long before the people grow tired of the what the law says and fight back whether you like it or not.

Christopher Dormer was only the beginning, you can expect a lot more if the system doesn't change in the future.
 
2013-03-07 03:31:17 PM

909: spentshells: ChipNASA: AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.

He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?

unfortunately yes

Or is that, unfortunately no?


Race doesn't matter when you aren't respecting their authority.

While being white may give you a little more room to make it out of the encounter safely, once an officer has decided it's your time for an ass beating, you're getting the ass beating regardless of your race.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:33 PM

Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching


That chick didn't just touch the cop's arm.  He was in a violent struggle and she deliberately interfered with his ability to protect himself and effect arrest.  I'd have decked her under the circumstances.
 
2013-03-07 03:41:37 PM

Weigard: Why does it take three cops to handle someone making a left turn?


They're Polish cops?
 
2013-03-07 03:43:31 PM

Masta Kronix: 909: spentshells: ChipNASA: AverageAmericanGuy: Jesus. I couldn't even tell the kid was black.

He had Marijuana, he got uppity and they beat.his.ass.
You think they'd have done that to a white kid?

unfortunately yes

Or is that, unfortunately no?

Race doesn't matter when you aren't respecting their authority.

While being white may give you a little more room to make it out of the encounter safely, once an officer has decided it's your time for an ass beating, you're getting the ass beating regardless of your race.


Welcome to the University of Maryland!
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2013-03-07 03:49:28 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Weigard: Why does it take three cops to handle someone making a left turn?

They're Polish cops?


Can we get a ruling here?
Oh, they are white. Carry on.

/mmmmm, golumpki
 
2013-03-07 03:51:11 PM

Onkel Buck: Dick Gozinya: Get used to it people. This is what happens when you militarize your police forces. I bet all three of those cops are ex military. Years of brainwashing them into believing everyone and everything is a threat, coupled with hyper-agressive responses to percieved threats results in this kind of shiat happening. Like Rambo said, "you cant just turn it off."

I was told by an Army buddy that I served with that some police dept's dont like hiring vets or former MPs because they cant de-program them very well. Cops are supposed to protect and serve, military not so much. I dont know if there was any truth to his statement. But it seemed to make some sense. But as always there is an asshole in every crowd, FARK is full of em!


really? cause from the previous fark threads on police brutality/corruption, farkers were claiming vet recruits were farking things up law enforcement because they weren't corruptible...
 
2013-03-07 03:54:43 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Fissile: It's not just Denver, it seems that most cops today are out of control sociopaths.  Have a look at how this Jersey cop punched a fat chick in the face when she touched his arm.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/cop-punches-wom an -video-envy-night-club-youtube-video-shows-elizabeth-new-jersey-office r-punching

That chick didn't just touch the cop's arm.  He was in a violent struggle and she deliberately interfered with his ability to protect himself and effect arrest.  I'd have decked her under the circumstances.


Then you would also deserve jail time for assault after you struck her.

She was trying to stop the officer from assaulting the man in question, you can see it in the video.

It's perfectly natural to protect yourself or people you care about when somebody is attempting to physically harm them, like the cop was attempting to do and managed to successfully do to the female in the video.

You should really seek professional help for your anger and aggression issues if you would have also punched the female in the video. You really do have issues.
 
2013-03-07 04:24:06 PM
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2013-03-07 04:27:20 PM

BarkingUnicorn: That chick didn't just touch the cop's arm. He was in a violent struggle and she deliberately interfered with his ability to protect himself and effect arrest. I'd have decked her under the circumstances.


Jeez, cops are such pussies these days.
 
2013-03-07 04:28:21 PM
According to the police report he was resisting arrest.
 
2013-03-07 04:44:44 PM

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I think I'm missing a meme here or something - I'm really not sure what you're saying here.

Masta Kronix: Ohh please Police Abuse and Corruption isn't even a matter of debate anymore.

Anyone arguing against the existence of wide spread police abuse and the resulting cover ups are either ignorant to the situation as a result of not doing any sort of research into the issue or is being disingenuous towards the discussion.

Which are you being?

Seeing as you freely admit you can't find a single instance of an officer being fired or charged as a result of a fellow officers testimony all the while officers have been charged and convicted of Police Abuse in extreme circumstances, I'm going to go with the later, you're being disingenuous towards the discussion because it suits your world view.



Huh? What post of mine are you referring to?

How is it being "disingenuous towards the discussion" to publically admit that I found it difficult to find counterexamples against liam76's proposition?

Or are you objecting to me mentioning the fact that I, personally, have had positive interactions with the police in the past? Hint: saying this is not at all the same as "arguing against the existence of wide spread police abuse and the resulting cover ups".

Did you get my response mixed up with someone else in this thread?
 
2013-03-07 05:04:39 PM
His face was resisting arrest. Come on guys.
 
2013-03-07 05:18:16 PM

not5am: Onkel Buck: Dick Gozinya: Get used to it people. This is what happens when you militarize your police forces. I bet all three of those cops are ex military. Years of brainwashing them into believing everyone and everything is a threat, coupled with hyper-agressive responses to percieved threats results in this kind of shiat happening. Like Rambo said, "you cant just turn it off."

I was told by an Army buddy that I served with that some police dept's dont like hiring vets or former MPs because they cant de-program them very well. Cops are supposed to protect and serve, military not so much. I dont know if there was any truth to his statement. But it seemed to make some sense. But as always there is an asshole in every crowd, FARK is full of em!

really? cause from the previous fark threads on police brutality/corruption, farkers were claiming vet recruits were farking things up law enforcement because they weren't corruptible...


Guess I should have mentioned it was almost 15 years ago when he told me this and that his brother, who relayed the info to him, was a cop outside of Chicago, if that has any bearing on this. But if what you are saying is true then maybe vets are bringing some integrity back to the badge.
 
2013-03-07 05:20:29 PM
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2013-03-07 07:05:03 PM

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I think I'm missing a meme here or something - I'm really not sure what you're saying here.


So it's obscure?

Here ya go.
 
2013-03-07 10:16:15 PM

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That's Tiffany Middleton on the left with Chevy Chase during the 2008 DNC. I posted this in the last thread on this subject. I'm not even a bit surprised at this decision and the DPD actions.


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2013-03-07 11:05:16 PM

dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...


Hate to break it to you but the UK has a ton more violent crime because the criminals know that their victims are unable to defend themselves. If you think the UK is safe because you have no guns you need to come back to reality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Br it ain-US.html

"
According to the figures released yesterday, 3.6 per cent of the population of England and Wales were victims of violent crime in 1999 - second only to Australia, where the figure was 4.1 per cent.

Scotland had a slightly lower rate of violence, at 3.4 per cent.

In the U.S., only 2 per cent of the population suffered an assault or robbery."
 
2013-03-08 05:06:24 AM

pbass98: dready zim:
But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

RTFA-- they charged him with going for one of the cops' guns. They never claimed he had a gun. And this BS charge would work just fine in ol' Blighty, despite your enlightened gun laws.


Nah, the cops keep the guns in the boot of the car. Nice try though.
 
2013-03-08 05:34:03 AM

redhook: dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...

Hate to break it to you but the UK has a ton more violent crime because the criminals know that their victims are unable to defend themselves. If you think the UK is safe because you have no guns you need to come back to reality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Br it ain-US.html

"
According to the figures released yesterday, 3.6 per cent of the population of England and Wales were victims of violent crime in 1999 - second only to Australia, where the figure was 4.1 per cent.

Scotland had a slightly lower rate of violence, at 3.4 per cent.

In the U.S., only 2 per cent of the population suffered an assault or robbery."


Nobody claims that removing guns will remove all crime. That is a gun nut strawman. I was talking about the nightmare scenario where the criminals all have guns and hold the country to ransom because people don`t have guns to protect themselves. Your figures are non-gun crime which is sort of the point. Compare murder rates and that is where you will see the difference. People with guns are deadly.

UNODC murder rates most recent year

4.2  Northern America
1.2  United Kingdom


violence of 2 compared to 3.6 yet a murder rate of 4.2 compared to 1.2.

Nearly TWICE (3.6/2=1.8) the violence yet a THIRD (4.2/1.2=3.5) of the deaths? WOW, it looks like a lack of guns keeps people alive by a factor of SIX (3.5*1.8=6.3)

So having guns in a society means you are 6.3 times more likely to be killed (when you compare the US and the UK)

Hmmm, it`s almost as though gun nuts lie to try to keep their guns.
 
2013-03-08 11:16:20 AM

dready zim: redhook: dready zim: Onkel Buck: Remember gun grabbers when you are done with your latest crusade, these are the only assholes who will still be allowed to have guns. Be careful what you wish for

But at least they won`t be able to use the excuse "We thought he was going for his gun" anymore.

We don`t have this problem here in the UK, where your `horror` scenario is happening i.e. cops have guns and the public don`t. Do you know what effect that has? The police don`t go crazy if they think you may have a weapon and beat the shiat out of you `just in case` and they can`t use that as an excuse so less police are violent. People don`t pull guns on cashiers `just because` etc etc etc

It`s strange but in countries where guns are restricted for the public NONE of the outcomes predicted by gun nuts happen.

You know, it`s almost as though they lie to keep their guns...

Hate to break it to you but the UK has a ton more violent crime because the criminals know that their victims are unable to defend themselves. If you think the UK is safe because you have no guns you need to come back to reality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Br it ain-US.html

"
According to the figures released yesterday, 3.6 per cent of the population of England and Wales were victims of violent crime in 1999 - second only to Australia, where the figure was 4.1 per cent.

Scotland had a slightly lower rate of violence, at 3.4 per cent.

In the U.S., only 2 per cent of the population suffered an assault or robbery."

Nobody claims that removing guns will remove all crime. That is a gun nut strawman. I was talking about the nightmare scenario where the criminals all have guns and hold the country to ransom because people don`t have guns to protect themselves. Your figures are non-gun crime which is sort of the point. Compare murder rates and that is where you will see the difference. People with guns are deadly.

UNODC murder rates most recent year

4.2  Northern Amer ...


Just take a look at Mexico. Some of the worlds most strict gun laws, controlled by the cartels.
 
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