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2013-03-07 12:14:17 AM
You can't research viruses at the library?  That seems improper.
 
2013-03-07 12:40:47 AM
If you're classifying Amerindian religions as "occult" and you're a librarian, you need a serious punch in the gonads to begin with because there is no possible rational way to attach those two topics together. Quanah Parker and Cornelius Agrippa may have both been carbon-based life forms, but any similarity ends there.
 
2013-03-07 01:02:30 AM
It's a fair cop
 
2013-03-07 01:15:51 AM
i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all.  they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net.  WTF man?
 
2013-03-07 02:26:24 AM
The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Salem Public Library

BURN THEM!
 
2013-03-07 02:26:51 AM
Ah, the southern states...

where aggressive ignorance is a point of pride and honor.
 
2013-03-07 02:30:05 AM

Weaver95: i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all.  they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net.  WTF man?


Because it's the religion of the DEVIL, you sick loincloth-wearin' goat-sacrificin' deerhumper!
 
2013-03-07 02:31:41 AM

SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...


Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.
 
2013-03-07 02:32:40 AM
Web chat is blocked?  Would that include message boards like Fark and most legitimate news websites?
 
2013-03-07 02:33:18 AM

Weaver95: i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all.  they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net.  WTF man?


It's all the sex inherent in Wicca and neo-Paganism.  The Great Rite, fertility goddesses, Dionysus, Charge of the Goddess, skyclad rites, acceptance of homosexuality, being generally sex-positive.  All that stuff leads to dancing!
 
2013-03-07 02:35:20 AM

Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.


Missouri is in the southern half of the United States, although it's classified as Mid-West.  It borders on Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky, after all.
 
2013-03-07 02:35:55 AM
Not that Satan is a figure in pagan religions, but if Satan were real, the Internet would appear to be a perfect home for him. I'm sure that's her main concern. And I thought I was crazy.
 
2013-03-07 02:38:56 AM

fusillade762: The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Salem Public Library

BURN THEM!


No one was burned in Salem.  They hung them
 
2013-03-07 02:39:14 AM
What the residents of Salem, MO might look like:

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-07 02:39:25 AM

MadCat221: Weaver95: i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all.  they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net.  WTF man?

Because it's the religion of the DEVIL, you sick loincloth-wearin' goat-sacrificin' deerhumper!


www.ted.me

FOOSBALL IS THE DEVIL, BOBBEH.
 
2013-03-07 02:40:41 AM
These people should love Satanists, because both groups believe in God.  They have more similarities than differences.

Satanism is stupid, anyway.  The title is "The Adversary" and he's exactly that.  But the adversary of what?  God?  That's silly, everyone agrees God is infallible, omnipotent, yatta yatta yatta.  The actual name is "The Satan" and it's a job title, he works for God as the adversary of man, to tempt men to stray from the paths of virtue.  The idea that he corrupts people against God's will is stupid.
 
2013-03-07 02:41:07 AM
So you can learn about other cultures, unless the people in those other cultures are naked. Then, censorship is fine. But, you know, within a pretty narrow range, we don't like censorship. Censor the natural state of humanity, sure, of course, why not? But censor some bullshiat superstition? OH NOES! Sure, makes perfect sense.
 
2013-03-07 02:43:19 AM
U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber said Tuesday the library could only block websites labelled "adult image," "pornography," "phishing," "proxy anonymizer," "viruses," or "web chat."

Reminds me of
Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."
 
2013-03-07 02:44:07 AM
I work in a library, so I'm getting a kick...

We draw the line at kiddie pron.  Even then, it isn't blocked, we just call the cops and let them deal with you.
 
2013-03-07 02:44:57 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber said Tuesday the library could only block websites labelled "adult image," "pornography," "phishing," "proxy anonymizer," "viruses," or "web chat."

Reminds me of
Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."



And causing a public nuisance.
 
2013-03-07 02:45:29 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber said Tuesday the library could only block websites labelled "adult image," "pornography," "phishing," "proxy anonymizer," "viruses," or "web chat."

Reminds me of
Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."


Or to expand on that
I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.
 
Ral
2013-03-07 02:49:06 AM
FTFA: "Salem Library Director Glenda Wofford told Hunter the websites could only be unblocked if she had a legitimate reason to access them."

And what would a legitimate reason for this be in the librarian's mind?  Isn't the point of a library to conduct research and to read about things that people are curious about?
 
2013-03-07 02:50:54 AM

phalamir: fusillade762: The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Salem Public Library

BURN THEM!

No one was burned in Salem.  They hung them


I knew that. But "HANG THEM!" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
 
2013-03-07 02:51:08 AM
The library director allegedly also said she had an "obligation" to call the "proper authorities" to report people who wanted to view blocked websites.

Wat?
 
2013-03-07 02:59:34 AM
Yeah, way to violate not only federal law, but the standards of your governing professional organization, the ALA.

/Librarian sounds like she needs a swift kick in the coont.
 
2013-03-07 03:02:52 AM

GWSuperfan: Yeah, way to violate not only federal law, but the standards of your governing professional organization, the ALA.

/Librarian sounds like she needs a swift kick in the coont.


The American Lung Association oversees Librarians?
 
2013-03-07 03:05:22 AM

hardinparamedic: The American Lung Association oversees Librarians?


Different ALA
 
2013-03-07 03:08:32 AM

phalamir: fusillade762: The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Salem Public Library

BURN THEM!

No one was burned in Salem.  They hung them


No one was hung in Salem. They all had small penises.

/hanged
 
2013-03-07 03:09:21 AM
By and large, nearly every Wiccan woman I've ever met is bi and large.
 
2013-03-07 03:14:11 AM

Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.


Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South).  Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.
 
2013-03-07 03:15:42 AM

Somacandra: If you're classifying Amerindian religions as "occult" and you're a librarian, you need a serious punch in the gonads to begin with because there is no possible rational way to attach those two topics together. Quanah Parker and Cornelius Agrippa may have both been carbon-based life forms, but any similarity ends there.



I bet the lady is a librarian in name only (e.g., she doesn't have any real credentials).  All the real librarians---those well-read and intelligent folks with Master's degrees in library science---I've known are quite liberal and open-minded about things.
 
2013-03-07 03:16:49 AM

phalamir: fusillade762: The ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Salem Public Library

BURN THEM!

No one was burned in Salem.  They hung  hanged them


FTFY
 
2013-03-07 03:20:07 AM

HotWingAgenda: Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.

Missouri is in the southern half of the United States, although it's classified as Mid-West.  It borders on Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky, after all.


Does that make Michigan part of Canada?
 
2013-03-07 03:20:52 AM
A more accurate and detailed account in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

Missouri library agrees not to block witch websites

It was a consent judgment negotiated between the parties;  judge signed it.

"The judgment says that the sites were not blocked after Aug, 1, 2011, when the library's internet service provider informed them that due to the concerns of some organizations, they were removing some blocks. The change was made before Hunter's suit was filed, the judgment says."

Still need a new librarian, and a new library board.
 
2013-03-07 03:27:08 AM

andychrist420: HotWingAgenda: Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.

Missouri is in the southern half of the United States, although it's classified as Mid-West.  It borders on Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky, after all.

Does that make Michigan part of Canada?


Why would the fact that Missouri is in the south make Michigan part of another country?
 
2013-03-07 03:31:20 AM

Aquapope: Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South).  Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.


Incorrect.  It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy.  The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.
 
2013-03-07 03:35:33 AM

Duck_of_Doom: Weaver95: i'm kinda pissed off that a librarian would block wiccan websites at all.  they're probably the LEAST harmful sites on the 'net.  WTF man?

It's all the sex inherent in Wicca and neo-Paganism.  The Great Rite, fertility goddesses, Dionysus, Charge of the Goddess, skyclad rites, acceptance of homosexuality, being generally sex-positive.  All that stuff leads to dancing!


You know how I know you were raised southern baptist?
 
2013-03-07 03:37:24 AM
Salem, MO is a tiny hick town of about 4,000.  It contains a Wal-Mart Distribution Center and a prison.  Those are literally the only two industries in the town.  It's otherwise surrounded by farms and meth producers.

The closest biggish town is 30 miles away in Rolla, MO, a town of about 18,000 which is perhaps most well-known for its engineering school.  Several Farkers went to school there.  I am one of them.  Even with the high-paying university jobs, median HOUSEHOLD income in Rolla, MO hovers at around $26,000/yr.

The librarian is a farking hick, is all I'm saying.
 
2013-03-07 03:38:16 AM

Fart_Machine: The library director allegedly also said she had an "obligation" to call the "proper authorities" to report people who wanted to view blocked websites.

Wat?


That's right sinner, if you want to read about pagan things at the library, they're obligated to call your pastor on you.  You're gonna get an earful at the next bible study, believe you me.
 
2013-03-07 03:39:02 AM
As a librarian - albeit in a university (although I was a library assistant in a public library) - I look very sternly on censorship in libraries. It's not up to us to make those kinds of judgments, and betraying the principles behind free access to information tarnishes the profession as a whole. For decades librarians have tried to get rid of the image of the petty authoritarian censorious shusher. This kind of thing doesn't help.
 
2013-03-07 03:40:15 AM

Alphax: Aquapope: Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South).  Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.

Incorrect.  It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy.  The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.


You idiots are thinking of the Missouri Compromise.  Missouri came into the Union as a slave state so Kansas could come into the Union as a free state.  Before, the score was 12-12; after, the score was 13-13.

For what it's worth, in Missouri, people's sentiments about slavery generally correlated with latitude.  North of Jefferson City was mostly free-staters, south of Jeff was almost all slave-staters.

Guess where in the state Salem, MO lies.
 
2013-03-07 03:40:40 AM

Somacandra: If you're classifying Amerindian religions as "occult" and you're a librarian, you need a serious punch in the gonads to begin with because there is no possible rational way to attach those two topics together. Quanah Parker and Cornelius Agrippa may have both been carbon-based life forms, but any similarity ends there.


These days, people throw around the word "occult" to mean any polytheistic or non-Abrahamic religion.

fusillade762: BURN THEM!


Bwahahaha! Would +1 if I could.

HotWingAgenda: Web chat is blocked? Would that include message boards like Fark and most legitimate news websites?


I hope you didn't seriously just compare Fark to a legitimate news website!

farkRus: Not that Satan is a figure in pagan religions, but if Satan were real, the Internet would appear to be a perfect home for him. I'm sure that's her main concern. And I thought I was crazy.


And Fark.com would be his homepage, especially the politics tab.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Satanism is stupid, anyway. The title is "The Adversary" and he's exactly that. But the adversary of what? God? That's silly, everyone agrees God is infallible, omnipotent, yatta yatta yatta. The actual name is "The Satan" and it's a job title, he works for God as the adversary of man, to tempt men to stray from the paths of virtue. The idea that he corrupts people against God's will is stupid.


Thisity this. Even people of a religious nature should man up and admit their own mistakes and shortcomings, and stop trying to blame the horned guy with the pitchfork.

AverageAmericanGuy: U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber said Tuesday the library could only block websites labelled "adult image," "pornography," "phishing," "proxy anonymizer," "viruses," or "web chat."

Reminds me of
Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the armyafter committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty uglylooking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Fatherrapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! Andthey was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on thebench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanestfather raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to meand said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"And I said, "Littering."


Don't even TRY joining the Army.
 
2013-03-07 03:42:15 AM

algrant33: The closest biggish town is 30 miles away in Rolla, MO, a town of about 18,000 which is perhaps most well-known for its engineering school.  Several Farkers went to school there.  I am one of them.  Even with the high-paying university jobs, median HOUSEHOLD income in Rolla, MO hovers at around $26,000/yr.


I was there for 2 semesters in '89-'90.  Very easy school to flunk out of.  My father graduated from there, and they were quite proud of their washout rate then.
 
2013-03-07 03:46:36 AM
I happen to be a direct descendant of both the official Minister, and the principal law enforcement officer of the Salem witch trials, so watch your step, heathen farkers!
 
2013-03-07 03:47:31 AM

andychrist420: Does that make Michigan part of Canada?


HotWingAgenda: Why would the fact that Missouri is in the south make Michigan part of another country?


Depending on how you look at it, it could be considered the deep South.

upload.wikimedia.org

Seriously though, a lot of Michigan IS like Canada. In fact Detroit is the only city in the whole country where you have to go south to get to Canada.
 
2013-03-07 03:50:08 AM
Just went to their website, the first line of the librarys mission statement is

"The Salem Public Library will be a reliable resource center and an advocate of intellectual freedom for the community "
 
2013-03-07 03:55:40 AM

Alphax: Aquapope: Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South).  Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.

Incorrect.  It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy.  The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.


Kansas was a Free State.  A whole bunch of Missouri bastards burned my town of Lawrence to the ground.  They may not have signed on the Confederate dotted line, but they were pro-slavery Southern supporters.  Are you saying they were confederates without having the gonads to declare as such?
 
2013-03-07 03:58:24 AM

Pribar: Just went to their website, the first line of the librarys mission statement is

"The Salem Public Library will be a reliable resource center and an advocate of intellectual freedom for the community "


When?
 
2013-03-07 04:03:27 AM
content8.flixster.com
 
2013-03-07 04:03:52 AM

Aquapope: Alphax: Aquapope: Krieghund: SpdrJay: Ah, the southern states...

Not sure if troll, Alaskan, or bad at geography.

Missouri was on the Confederate side (the South).  Maybe he meant south politically, not geographically.

Incorrect.  It was one of 3 border states where slavery was legal, but they didn't join the Confederacy.  The other two were Maryland and Kentucky, IIRC.

Kansas was a Free State.  A whole bunch of Missouri bastards burned my town of Lawrence to the ground.  They may not have signed on the Confederate dotted line, but they were pro-slavery Southern supporters.  Are you saying they were confederates without having the gonads to declare as such?


Right, they didn't leave.  Though it sounded like it was a near thing.

I heard there were some minor Civil War battles in Missouri, but they may have been entirely locals fighting each other.  I sorta remember vising a Civil War battle reenactment at Pilot Knob, Missouri, about a hundred miles south of St. Louis, when I was a teen in the 80's.
 
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