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(Reuters)   Syrian rebels capture 20 UN peace keepers and threaten to hold them until Syrian government forces withdraw from their village   (reuters.com) divider line 65
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2013-03-07 01:24:34 AM

spawn73: cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.

Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc.

believing pro-Assad propaganda like

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunati
c , like "both sides are bad so LEAVE ASSAD ALONE
 
2013-03-07 01:48:27 AM
Which sect of Rebels are they? From the article it sounds like they are the Jihadists and not the FSA.
 
2013-03-07 03:26:36 AM
The world would benefit in dragging this conflict out as long as possible.
 
2013-03-07 04:20:01 AM
Piss off your ally at the UN while at the same time giving your enemy a chance to look good. Brilliant!
 
2013-03-07 05:11:07 AM

BokChoy: This is why I roll my eyes any time the media does a story fawning over the Syrian "freedom fighters." We've seen how this story plays out before, and yet our naive state department thinks its a swell idea to sign us up to the cause. Without even knowing what the cause is.


Oh come on now.  Our state department hasn't done much besides condemn Syria / Assad, which is pretty much the only safe bet to take.
Whatever else may happen from this moment forward, one thing will still be true: Assad is a dick who is bombing his own population with reckless abandon.
 
2013-03-07 05:20:19 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Am I the only one concerned that we are funding these assclowns?
These are the people we're giving $60Million to. Good job, Mr. new Secretary of State Kerry. Good job, I say!


Yes you are, and $60M is a pittance so yeah, I agree: good job Mr. Kerry.  That's a pretty small cost for playing nice with the rest of the world, and our veto power in the UN is a hugely important diplomatic tool.  If we're going to use the UN as a tool of influence, we need to buy into the system.

Besides, this "America should do whatever it wants and the UN should STFU" attitude is jingoist bullsh*t that engenders poor relationships with the rest of the world.  The world is globalized now, economies are globalized now, and our diplomatic relationships with other countries are important.  If we act like belligerent dickholes we're going to get the same back.  That attitude it isn't going to be helpful in the long run.
 
2013-03-07 05:46:00 AM

Gawdzila: If we act like belligerent dickholes we're going to get the same back


I don't know if you've noticed, but we already get that attitude from much of the rest of the world, regardless of our actions. We have countries like Iran that justify their hostility against the US by bringing up things that happened over 50 years ago, and some countries use things that didn't even happen to their country to justify hating us. Basically, at this point it doesn't matter what we do, someone is going to hate us for it.

Be the driving force behind providing a Palestinian state? Israel hates us, as do the Arab nations who "support" Palestinian statehood, because their "Let's destroy Israel, without outright saying so!"-card got taken away from them.

Provide humanitarian relief for disaster victims in Ethiopia? Any nearby country controlled by tribes that historically hate Ethiopians hate us for helping their enemies.

Prop up the economy of Greece with financial assistance? We are hated by Turkey, one of our most important allies.

Take military action against terrorists acting in one of literally dozens of countries around the world? Anti-US protests pop up in countries from Algeria to Zimbabwe.

The point being, we cannot win in the court of public opinion, regardless of what we do.
 
2013-03-07 07:08:37 AM

LewDux: spawn73: cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.

Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc. believing pro-Assad propaganda like

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunatic , like "both sides are bad so LEAVE ASSAD ALONE


There is nothing that prevents you from checking out who those people fighting against Assad are, and that they're supported by Saudia Arabia etc.

http://www.information.dk/451557

Here's an example (use Google translate from Danish), the "Danish" fighter Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane  has just been killed by Assads forces in Syria. He's well known because he was a prisoner in Guantanamo.

I'm sure there's elements of genuine freedom fighters that just want to overthrow Assad etc., but you're naive if you can't see that it's a honeypot for jihadists. And USA and western Europe are morons for supporting them uncritically, because those people are not our friends, regardless of what you think of Assad.
 
2013-03-07 07:51:14 AM
never side with or trust a death cultist
 
2013-03-07 07:54:47 AM
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also, yourenothelping.jpg
 
2013-03-07 09:18:20 AM

zedster: Their mission is to stop military actions in the DMZ on the Golan, Israel has been shelled multiple times since the conflict started and actually rescued 8 rebels who entered the DMZ with injuries. The UN forces are being turtles in their blue helmets.


Unpossible! I have been assured that Israel is a racist country, because two Israelis stormed out of a soccer game after a Muslim player scored a goal!

/that thread is up to 400+ comments, mostly people insisting they're anti-Zionist, not anti-Jew
//"When people say 'Zionist,' what they mean is 'Jew.'" - Martin Luther King Jr.
 
2013-03-07 09:39:28 AM

spawn73: LewDux: spawn73: cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.

Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc. believing pro-Assad propaganda like

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunatic , like "both sides are bad so LEAVE ASSAD ALONE

There is nothing that prevents you from checking out who those people fighting against Assad are, and that they're supported by Saudia Arabia etc.

http://www.information.dk/451557

Here's an example (use Google translate from Danish), the "Danish" fighter Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane  has just been killed by Assads forces in Syria. He's well known because he was a prisoner in Guantanamo.

I'm sure there's elements of genuine freedom fighters that just want to overthrow Assad etc., but you're naive if you can't see that it's a honeypot for jihadists. And USA and western Europe are morons for supporting them uncritically, because those people are not our friends, regardless of what you think of Assad.


"Some of the people fighting against Assad are bad people, so SCREW THEM ALL"

First you convinced self that almost all of them are terrorists, then you convinced self that West are supporting terrorists uncritically. You sound like someone who is very good at reality
 
2013-03-07 09:58:01 AM

LewDux: spawn73: LewDux: spawn73: cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.

Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc. believing pro-Assad propaganda like

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunatic , like "both sides are bad so LEAVE ASSAD ALONE

There is nothing that prevents you from checking out who those people fighting against Assad are, and that they're supported by Saudia Arabia etc.

http://www.information.dk/451557

Here's an example (use Google translate from Danish), the "Danish" fighter Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane  has just been killed by Assads forces in Syria. He's well known because he was a prisoner in Guantanamo.

I'm sure there's elements of genuine freedom fighters that just want to overthrow Assad etc., but you're naive if you can't see that it's a honeypot for jihadists. And USA and western Europe are morons for supporting them uncritically, because those people are not our friends, regardless of what you think of Assad.

"Some of the people fighting against Assad are bad people, so SCREW THEM ALL"

First you convinced self that almost all of them are terrorists, then you convinced self that West are supporting terrorists uncritically. You sound like someone who is very good at reality


"I'm sure there's elements of genuine freedom fighters that just want to overthrow Assad etc., but you're naive if you can't see that it's a honeypot for jihadists. And USA and western Europe are morons for supporting them uncritically,"

You seem to have problems reading. Let's try again.
 
2013-03-07 10:33:54 AM
So there's more of them than just elements, but you still convinced that West supports all of them uncritically?
 
2013-03-07 04:21:34 PM
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