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(Reuters)   Syrian rebels capture 20 UN peace keepers and threaten to hold them until Syrian government forces withdraw from their village   (reuters.com) divider line 65
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2013-03-06 08:12:42 PM
Way to shoot yourselves in the foot, you morons!
 
2013-03-06 08:25:17 PM
Bashar must be laughing his ass off.
 
2013-03-06 08:28:40 PM
This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.
 
2013-03-06 08:31:06 PM

cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.


Their mission is to stop military actions in the DMZ on the Golan, Israel has been shelled multiple times since the conflict started and actually rescued 8 rebels who entered the DMZ with injuries. The UN forces are being turtles in their blue helmets.
 
2013-03-06 08:39:46 PM
I think they don't quite grasp the situation. They should say they captured 20 UN peace-keepers and threaten to RELEASE them until Syrian government forces withdraw from their village.
 
2013-03-06 08:47:48 PM
You're doing it wrong.
 
2013-03-06 08:48:22 PM
The UN Peacekeepers will just give them cholera and then they will go free.
 
2013-03-06 08:51:26 PM
Yo dawg, I heard you like Tolstoy, so I put some war in your peace so you can have War and Peacekeepers!
 
2013-03-06 08:52:35 PM
What? No lame "strongly worded letter" joke in the headline?
for shame,  subby.For shame.
 
2013-03-06 08:52:40 PM
Good thing we(the US) are only giving them hundreds of dollars
 
2013-03-06 08:53:05 PM

zedster: turtles


Why weren't they circumcised?
 
2013-03-06 08:53:40 PM

zedster: helmets


oh
they were
never mind.
 
2013-03-06 08:56:34 PM
A well-thought-out scheme.  I'm going to continue drinking until ABC brings back Cop Rock.
 
2013-03-06 08:57:28 PM
The way I read the article; this particular group of rebels was already under a microscope for unrelated executions. This seems like a poor idea.
 
2013-03-06 08:58:33 PM
Will finally have some independent observers able to confirm what's happening. "Yes, in fact 20 of us were captured."
 
2013-03-06 08:59:36 PM

ourbigdumbmouth: Good thing we(the US) are only giving them hundreds of dollars


It's a tough situation to be in, really. I mean, every US agency wants to see Assad overthrown, but they are terrified of arming what is eventually going to be a full blown civil war when the command and control structure collapses. It's Iraq all over again with tribal factions eventually remaking the society and settling old scores.

It's going to get even more brutal when the Syrian Army vaporizes.

It's ironic because they have been funding the Lebanese unpleasentness and now they are going to suffer the same fate.
 
2013-03-06 09:00:03 PM
...wut?
 
2013-03-06 09:00:18 PM
I don't think they thought this all the way through.
 
2013-03-06 09:04:10 PM
 
2013-03-06 09:04:31 PM
My tinfoil Sense is tingling here. Is it possible these goons are actually pro-Govt. forces posing as rebels?

Because within weeks of finally getting US support and then they'd pull something like this? NOOOOOOOO ONE is that stupid!
 
2013-03-06 09:06:30 PM

TV's Vinnie: My tinfoil Sense is tingling here. Is it possible these goons are actually pro-Govt. forces posing as rebels?

Because within weeks of finally getting US support and then they'd pull something like this? NOOOOOOOO ONE is that stupid!


Now that... makes more sense
 
2013-03-06 09:06:33 PM
This is why I roll my eyes any time the media does a story fawning over the Syrian "freedom fighters." We've seen how this story plays out before, and yet our naive state department thinks its a swell idea to sign us up to the cause. Without even knowing what the cause is.
 
2013-03-06 09:06:59 PM

TV's Vinnie: NOOOOOOOO ONE is that stupid!


Allow me to introduce you to heavily armed men with little or no education.
 
2013-03-06 09:08:10 PM

NewportBarGuy: TV's Vinnie: NOOOOOOOO ONE is that stupid!

Allow me to introduce you to heavily armed men with little or no education.


I was thinking drug use because it's so retarded. But Vinnie might have something.
 
2013-03-06 09:10:30 PM

Rapmaster2000: A well-thought-out scheme.  I'm going to continue drinking until ABC brings back Cop Rock.


Makes sense, that's how it got started the first time.
 
2013-03-06 09:10:48 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: But Vinnie might have something.


Or, more likely, some area commander is angling for a higher slot in the syndicate. It could be a couple of things. Stupidity is most likely.
 
2013-03-06 09:11:11 PM

NewportBarGuy: ourbigdumbmouth: Good thing we(the US) are only giving them hundreds of dollars

It's a tough situation to be in, really. I mean, every US agency wants to see Assad overthrown, but they are terrified of arming what is eventually going to be a full blown civil war when the command and control structure collapses. It's Iraq all over again with tribal factions eventually remaking the society and settling old scores.

It's going to get even more brutal when the Syrian Army vaporizes.

It's ironic because they have been funding the Lebanese unpleasentness and now they are going to suffer the same fate.


Eventually?  What do you call what's going on now?
 
2013-03-06 09:11:47 PM
Rebels Without a Clue?

Filipino Rebels In Syria Flip Their Lids?

This Wouldn't Have Happened If UN Had Gun Control Laws/2nd Amendment Protections?

Clearly, This Is Obama's Fault, Boehner Says?

Lootie Did It?

Are The Captors Female 'Cause If So... Niiiice... Amirite?

/I miss any?
//sorry, I'm clearly a little under the weather tonight
 
2013-03-06 09:11:52 PM
Scenario 1- Another faction takes this faction out to get in good with the U.S.
Scenario 2- The U.S. takes out this faction.
Scenario 3- This drags out, and holding 20 hostages turns out to be a big drain on their resources and they Syrian government takes them out.
Scenario 4- They get stupid and harm the hostages and the U.S. takes them out.
Scenario 5- A splinter cell in the Syrian government takes them out and uses them as leverage to get the hell out of Syria.
Scenario 6- Israel sees an opportunity and takes them out knowing the U.S. can't admonish them for helping out.  Everyone keeps quiet because no one wants the Israelis involved.
Scenario 7- We negotiate with them and give them weapons.  Then we take them out so people don't know we negotiate with terrorists.
Scenario 8- This turns international sentiment against them.
Scenario 9- Chuck Norris and Christie Brinkley lead Seal Team 6 on a rescue mission.  After subduing them, Chuck Norris teaches them martial arts, because, hey, they are the 'good-guys'.  Christie Brinkley pleasures them in roughly the same way Betty White would, only with more muscle tone and less sexuality, and they conquer Catan.  Obviously, that's the most likely result.
 
2013-03-06 09:15:59 PM

Raoul Eaton: Eventually? What do you call what's going on now?


The prelude to the real nastiness. As soon as they stop focusing on the leadership, they will focus on each other. Remember those thousands of bodies found on the side of the road every morning in Iraq after 2003? They effectively redistricted the populace by ethnic group through slaughter or by mass exodus.

What's going on now is horrible, but it's a defined clash between forces, thought the rebels are not 100% cohesive. Once they vanquish their main foe, they'll re-target on each other and the remaining civilians.
 
2013-03-06 09:16:45 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-06 09:26:10 PM
Do UN peacekeepers ever actually do anything?
 
2013-03-06 09:26:59 PM
Scarran and peace keepers? Spoiler alert, they're working together.
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-06 09:36:31 PM
I worked there for a while, was there when the Danish embassy (among others in the same building) was burned after the Mohammad cartoons.

If it's like when I was there, as far as the general populous is concerned, anyone non Arab is considered American, as American doesn't so much mean from the US, but means westerner. Since America is enemy number 1, if the UN isn't actively helping them then the thought is that they must be actively working against them.

The UN mission isn't to do anything but observe and file reports on breaches of the disengagement zone that the UN then files complaints to the applicable government. They have only small arms and armoured taxis, they can't do anything but hole up in their bunkers and defend themselves... and with the civilians in New York calling all the shots, can't even do that effectively.

I fear this is just the start of the complete shiat show that place is going to become.

My thoughts are with the captured, hope they make it out of this ok.
 
2013-03-06 09:37:39 PM

TV's Vinnie: My tinfoil Sense is tingling here. Is it possible these goons are actually pro-Govt. forces posing as rebels?

Because within weeks of finally getting US support and then they'd pull something like this? NOOOOOOOO ONE is that stupid!


Well, unless these are a bunch of Syrian college students who disagree with their allies and think they know how to run a better rebellion and you're not the boss of me!
 
2013-03-06 09:46:29 PM
This is not what they mean by desperate times call for desperate measures guys...
 
2013-03-06 09:49:28 PM
Official Syrian government position:

Oh no! Whatever you do please, please don't kill those UN hostages. That would break our hearts.

Lalalala... we are not touching you... lalalala we are withdrawing... no, no we mean it!
 
2013-03-06 09:52:00 PM

cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.


Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc.

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunatic.
 
2013-03-06 09:57:32 PM
The Martyrs of Yarmouk? These guys seem legit. We should definitely be sure to slide plenty of money and weapons to these Brave Freedom Fighters, because Assad BAD.
 
2013-03-06 10:20:39 PM
I think I have a great story-line for the next "Bad Idea" jeans commercial!!
 
2013-03-06 11:11:54 PM

FARK rebel soldier: Scarran and peace keepers? Spoiler alert, they're working together.
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x301]


Dangit!
*shakes tiny fist*
 
2013-03-06 11:18:54 PM

spawn73: cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.

Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc.

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunatic.


This hasn't been brought up nearly enough.  I live in fear that some mental midgets in the US will force or government to intervene on behalf of the rebels, and then act totally shocked when the rebels welcome in Al Qaeda, make a new treaty with Russia for surplus arms, and generally do all sorts of things we didn't have to worry about before.

Also, am I the only one concerned that 30 random guys were able to completely capture 20 UN Peacekeepers, regardless of their country of origin?  These weren't civilian election observers, they're supposed to be trained soldiers.
 
2013-03-06 11:24:34 PM
uh... guys? I don't think you thought this through completely...


HotWingAgenda: Also, am I the only one concerned that 30 random guys were able to completely capture 20 UN Peacekeepers, regardless of their country of origin?  These weren't civilian election observers, they're supposed to be trained soldiers.


It's those sissy lookin' blue helmets

/who can take those seriously?
 
2013-03-06 11:31:24 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's those sissy lookin' blue helmets

/who can take those seriously?


Well, obviously not the "soldiers" of Srebrenica.
 
2013-03-06 11:44:48 PM

HotWingAgenda: Also, am I the only one concerned that 30 random guys were able to completely capture 20 UN Peacekeepers, regardless of their country of origin? These weren't civilian election observers, they're supposed to be trained soldiers.


I don't know how it is now, but in Bosnia they weren't allowed to fight back.  There was a UN Peacekeeper convoy escorting a high ranking member of the Bosnians.  The serbs pulled up, blocked the road, and simply walked up to the car with the Bosnian in it, ordered him out at gunpoint and walked away.  The UN Peacekeepers did absolutely nothing as they weren't allowed to shoot unless fired upon first.

Also, see the book "Shake Hands with the Devil", its about the genocide in Rawanda, written by the general in command of UN forces.  Its amazing how inept the UN Peacekeepers are (they're often from 3rd world armies, and poorly trained), and the UN command structure repeatedly refused to let them act to save peoples lives.
 
2013-03-06 11:45:47 PM
UN Peacekeepers aka Hostages.
 
2013-03-06 11:48:39 PM

ShawnDoc: The UN Peacekeepers did absolutely nothing as they weren't allowed to shoot unless fired upon first.


It's all in interpretation and conduct. They could have fired back, the ossifers chose not to. There is not a f*cking court in the world that would have convicted them. They just didn't have the farking balls toy do the right thing.

Same with Rwanda.
 
2013-03-06 11:51:04 PM

HotWingAgenda: Also, am I the only one concerned that 30 random guys were able to completely capture 20 UN Peacekeepers, regardless of their country of origin?


Am I the only one concerned that we are funding these assclowns?
These are the people we're giving $60Million to. Good job, Mr. new Secretary of State Kerry. Good job, I say!
 
2013-03-06 11:55:16 PM

HotWingAgenda: spawn73: cman: This could be a win for the rebels

Sure, taking UN peacekeepers is a shiatty thing to do. However, it will give them more attention than only fighting governmental forces. It might force the UN to actually deal with what is happening in Syria rather than doing only token actions.

Right now the rebels are riding high on people not paying so close attention to them.

I don't think the rebels want to be exposed to be what they are. Jihadists. They're sponsored by the usual suspects, think Al Quida etc.

Assad isn't a saint, but you know, he just more the Saddam Hussein kind of villain, rather than a religious lunatic.

This hasn't been brought up nearly enough.  I live in fear that some mental midgets in the US will force or government to intervene on behalf of the rebels, and then act totally shocked when the rebels welcome in Al Qaeda, make a new treaty with Russia for surplus arms, and generally do all sorts of things we didn't have to worry about before.

Also, am I the only one concerned that 30 random guys were able to completely capture 20 UN Peacekeepers, regardless of their country of origin?  These weren't civilian election observers, they're supposed to be trained soldiers.


20 guys with rifles, in 2 antiquated battle taxis and a soft body truck vs an ambush or 30 guys with RPGs = 20 guys put their hands up, or their hands will shortly be no where near their bodies.
 
2013-03-06 11:56:21 PM

Glendale: Do UN peacekeepers ever actually do anything?


They do make great human shields for tanks...

But in all seriousness, no, they're not supposed to.
 
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