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(Vancouver Sun)   "Hey. It's me. I picked up the pot, the hash, the mushrooms and the money. It's all in the trunk. Yeah I'm driving over right now. Hold on, I'm being pulled over for using my phone while driving. Call you right back"   (vancouversun.com) divider line 43
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2013-03-06 08:50:16 PM  
Wait.  People doing drugs aren't making good decisions?  For shame!
 
2013-03-06 08:51:09 PM  
Dave's not here, man.
 
2013-03-06 08:51:10 PM  
New season of trailer park boys?
 
2013-03-06 08:51:51 PM  
They opened the trunk to find "more than a kilo of marijuana, a half kilo of mushrooms, 250 grams of hash and thousands of dollars in cash," the release stated.

The man is now facing possible charges of possession for the purpose of trafficking, the release added.


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2013-03-06 08:52:05 PM  
No ether?
 
2013-03-06 08:52:07 PM  
Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.
 
2013-03-06 08:55:39 PM  
"I'm a colossal idiot, eh?"
 
2013-03-06 08:58:23 PM  
If the motor vehicle smelled of cannabis, the dogs were probably on their way.  The trick here is not to mule other drugs along with that reeky stuff.  A friend of mine was busted with his variety pack exiting a fest.  They gave him a coupla years each for most of the items in his kit.  He was just trading samples.
 
2013-03-06 08:59:38 PM  
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2013-03-06 09:19:19 PM  

TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.


Which in turn gives probable cause.
 
2013-03-06 09:26:19 PM  

Lucidz: TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.

Which in turn gives probable cause.


Not according to the supreme court.
Of course if they need to, the cops will just lie and say you were 'acting suspicious'.
 
2013-03-06 09:26:40 PM  

TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.


If they 'smell pot' that's good enough. At least in Lilburn Ga.
 
2013-03-06 09:34:12 PM  
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Vehicle in question.
 
2013-03-06 09:35:07 PM  

I. R. Rottweiler: Lucidz: TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.

Which in turn gives probable cause.

Not according to the supreme court.
Of course if they need to, the cops will just lie and say you were 'acting suspicious'.


Well, this was in vancouver, and the fact that he even felt a need to mention it is odd... Definitely points out that, even legalized, they haven't gotten their laws down.

In fact, I'm not sure what jurisdiction the officer would have had to open the trunk...

Cop: "I smell marijuana"
Driver: "Yeah, I have some in the back.  Its legal now."
Cop: "Uhhh, how much do you have?"

I don't get it.

On a side note, the way I see it, if you're illicitly carrying something, say in GA, and the cop smells it, you can either say "no" to the cop and (as someone mentioned) wait for the dogs, or have the car impounded, and wait till they open it and you're behind bars.

As soon as you're stopped, and the cops are asking, you're screwed.
 
2013-03-06 09:43:18 PM  
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. But he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says you are about to turn right. This is to let him know you're pulling off for a proper place to talk. It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
 
2013-03-06 09:44:11 PM  

FatherChaos: Dave's not here, man.


Done in two.
 
2013-03-06 09:52:02 PM  

I. R. Rottweiler: Lucidz: TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.

Which in turn gives probable cause.

Not according to the supreme court.
Of course if they need to, the cops will just lie and say you were 'acting suspicious'.


And then they call in the dogs, which have just been recently ruled by the Supreme Court to be infallible (even if they give a false positive, whether by accident or on command).

And if the cops are feeling really ornery, they can use the dog's (false?) positive as reason to believe there's a non-zero chance that your car may have had illegal drugs in it at some point in history; that reasoning could then be used to justify the seizure by police of all your worldly possessions (car, house, all funds in bank account, etc) except the clothes on your back with absolutely no recourse or due process whatsoever for you.

All this over a plant that's more abundant than than most trees and less toxic than water.
 
2013-03-06 10:02:30 PM  
King Something:

And if the cops are feeling really ornery, they can use the dog's (false?) positive as reason to believe there's a non-zero chance that your car may have had illegal drugs in it at some point in history; that reasoning could then be used to justify the seizure by police of all your worldly possessions (car, house, all funds in bank account, etc) except the clothes on your back with absolutely no recourse or due process whatsoever for you.

And yet, if you had nothing illegal in your car, there would have been nothing to worry about.  If I get pulled over, its doubtful a cop will ask to search my car.  Why?  It doesn't smell like weed.  He brings a dog out to sniff my car?  I won't get in trouble.  Why?  No weed.  Blood test me?  No problem. I don't drink and don't smoke weed. Sooooo, basically if you weren't breaking the law in the first place, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, nor be angry at the cops for violating your rights when you're breaking the law.  Problem solved.

All this over a plant that's more abundant than than most trees and less toxic than water.

Wtf did you get that from?  You're not doing anyone who doesn't live in Washington or Colorado any favors...
 
2013-03-06 10:03:58 PM  

Lucidz: TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.

Which in turn gives probable cause.


No it goddamn doesn't. How stupid are you that you don't see the logical fallacy? If you were to exercise your Fourth Amendment right to refuse a search without probable cause, and that refusal in itself constituted probable cause, then why does the Fourth Amendment even exist? This idiocy is mind-boggling.

Read, dumbass.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-morgan/5-reasons-you-should-neve_ b _1292554.html
 
2013-03-06 10:10:11 PM  

peasants_are_revolting: Lucidz: TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.

Which in turn gives probable cause.

No it goddamn doesn't. How stupid are you that you don't see the logical fallacy? If you were to exercise your Fourth Amendment right to refuse a search without probable cause, and that refusal in itself constituted probable cause, then why does the Fourth Amendment even exist? This idiocy is mind-boggling.

Read, dumbass.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-morgan/5-reasons-you-should-neve_ b _1292554.html


Wow bro.  Go smoke and chill out.  I can feel your fiery internet wrath through the web!  I've heard that cops will use it as probable cause.  I'm neither a cop, nor a judge, supreme or otherwise, so I have nothing to do with the situation.  Burn your jet fuel in someone else's direction...

Let me repeat what I said earlier.  Hopefully slower, maybe simpler.  "If you're pulled over and are doing something illegal and the cop suspects of doing something illegal, you're probably screwed."
 
2013-03-06 10:15:38 PM  

peasants_are_revolting: Lucidz: TwistedFark: Here's a tip. When pulled over, don't consent to let a cop search you or your vehicle. When they ASK you if they can do something, simply say no.

Which in turn gives probable cause.


Oh, and since we're being SO friendly.
Illinois v. Caballes, (2005), was a case in which the Court held that theFourth Amendment is not violated when the use of a during a routine traffic stop does not unreasonably prolong the length of the stop.

Dog smells weed = Probable cause.  There's your car-search and subsequent arrest, dickbreath.
 
2013-03-06 10:15:50 PM  
It's this kind of stupidity that gives cops the idea they can use this flawed reasoning to illegally search vehicles and hassle law-abiding citizens. Never consent to a search, whether you have anything on you or not.
 
2013-03-06 10:18:53 PM  

peasants_are_revolting: It's this kind of stupidity that gives cops the idea they can use this flawed reasoning to illegally search vehicles and hassle law-abiding citizens. Never consent to a search, whether you have anything on you or not.


If you don't have anything illegal in the car, wouldn't it be faster to consent, have the officer apologize and be on your way 5 minutes later?
 
2013-03-06 10:26:19 PM  

Lucidz: peasants_are_revolting: It's this kind of stupidity that gives cops the idea they can use this flawed reasoning to illegally search vehicles and hassle law-abiding citizens. Never consent to a search, whether you have anything on you or not.

If you don't have anything illegal in the car, wouldn't it be faster to consent, have the officer apologize and be on your way 5 minutes later?


No. Because as soon as you refuse, they have to arrest you or let you go.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:25 PM  

shanrick: Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. But he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says you are about to turn right. This is to let him know you're pulling off for a proper place to talk. It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.


R.I.P. Hunter S. Thompson. You are missed.
 
2013-03-06 10:39:16 PM  

TwistedFark: Lucidz: peasants_are_revolting: It's this kind of stupidity that gives cops the idea they can use this flawed reasoning to illegally search vehicles and hassle law-abiding citizens. Never consent to a search, whether you have anything on you or not.

If you don't have anything illegal in the car, wouldn't it be faster to consent, have the officer apologize and be on your way 5 minutes later?

No. Because as soon as you refuse, they have to arrest you or let you go.


Don't you mean "they have to arrest you, let you go out of the kindness of their hards, or call the drug dogs which does not constitute a breach of the 4th amendment." ?

Good luck telilng the judge you felt like the 10 minutes you waited for a drug dog to show up violates the supreme court ruling if it led to finding something illegal in the car.
 
2013-03-06 10:42:44 PM  

Lucidz: King Something:

And if the cops are feeling really ornery, they can use the dog's (false?) positive as reason to believe there's a non-zero chance that your car may have had illegal drugs in it at some point in history; that reasoning could then be used to justify the seizure by police of all your worldly possessions (car, house, all funds in bank account, etc) except the clothes on your back with absolutely no recourse or due process whatsoever for you.

And yet, if you had nothing illegal in your car, there would have been nothing to worry about.  If I get pulled over, its doubtful a cop will ask to search my car.  Why?  It doesn't smell like weed.  He brings a dog out to sniff my car?  I won't get in trouble.  Why?  No weed.  Blood test me?  No problem. I don't drink and don't smoke weed. Sooooo, basically if you weren't breaking the law in the first place, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, nor be angry at the cops for violating your rights when you're breaking the law.  Problem solved.

All this over a plant that's more abundant than than most trees and less toxic than water.

Wtf did you get that from?  You're not doing anyone who doesn't live in Washington or Colorado any favors...


lol one of these guys..
 
2013-03-06 10:46:14 PM  

vd61: Lucidz: King Something:

And if the cops are feeling really ornery, they can use the dog's (false?) positive as reason to believe there's a non-zero chance that your car may have had illegal drugs in it at some point in history; that reasoning could then be used to justify the seizure by police of all your worldly possessions (car, house, all funds in bank account, etc) except the clothes on your back with absolutely no recourse or due process whatsoever for you.

And yet, if you had nothing illegal in your car, there would have been nothing to worry about.  If I get pulled over, its doubtful a cop will ask to search my car.  Why?  It doesn't smell like weed.  He brings a dog out to sniff my car?  I won't get in trouble.  Why?  No weed.  Blood test me?  No problem. I don't drink and don't smoke weed. Sooooo, basically if you weren't breaking the law in the first place, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, nor be angry at the cops for violating your rights when you're breaking the law.  Problem solved.

All this over a plant that's more abundant than than most trees and less toxic than water.

Wtf did you get that from?  You're not doing anyone who doesn't live in Washington or Colorado any favors...

lol one of these guys..


Are you referring to me or the other dude?
 
2013-03-06 11:11:52 PM  

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That's shiat's expired.
 
2013-03-06 11:15:47 PM  
Now, I feel safe.

/time to rest
 
2013-03-06 11:32:14 PM  

hackhix: They opened the trunk to find "more than a kilo of marijuana, a half kilo of mushrooms, 250 grams of hash and thousands of dollars in cash," the release stated.

The man is now facing possible charges of possession for the purpose of trafficking, the release added.


Once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
 
2013-03-07 12:14:33 AM  

Lucidz: vd61: Lucidz: King Something:

And if the cops are feeling really ornery, they can use the dog's (false?) positive as reason to believe there's a non-zero chance that your car may have had illegal drugs in it at some point in history; that reasoning could then be used to justify the seizure by police of all your worldly possessions (car, house, all funds in bank account, etc) except the clothes on your back with absolutely no recourse or due process whatsoever for you.

And yet, if you had nothing illegal in your car, there would have been nothing to worry about.  If I get pulled over, its doubtful a cop will ask to search my car.  Why?  It doesn't smell like weed.  He brings a dog out to sniff my car?  I won't get in trouble.  Why?  No weed.  Blood test me?  No problem. I don't drink and don't smoke weed. Sooooo, basically if you weren't breaking the law in the first place, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, nor be angry at the cops for violating your rights when you're breaking the law.  Problem solved.

All this over a plant that's more abundant than than most trees and less toxic than water.

Wtf did you get that from?  You're not doing anyone who doesn't live in Washington or Colorado any favors...

lol one of these guys..

Are you referring to me or the other dude?


You make valid arguments many times but you generally word it in ways which is abrasive and combative.  This tends to make people not want to agree with the truth even when it is truth.  Unfortunately, the human animal has difficulty removing emotion from the critical thinking process so arguments tend to occur often from misunderstandings.

If your purpose of posting is to inform and assist, then perhaps a change in tone would go further to educate and help.

However, if your purpose is simply to annoy those who you know will react emotionally and give you attention in that manner, then you are doing a great job.
 
2013-03-07 12:21:27 AM  

Lucidz: He brings a dog out to sniff my car? I won't get in trouble.



Do you own a used car?  Do you know everyone whose ever sat in the seats?  Are you certain that nothing has ever fallen behind the backseat since the car was new?

/knew a guy who drove an old used car
// cops found a 20-year-old roach behind the seat
/// he was toast
 
2013-03-07 01:12:40 AM  
Wow vinn... Really? Did he beat the charges? Why did the cop initiate a vehicle search?

And yes I own a used car but I doubt there is anything like that init, but I get your point.
 
2013-03-07 05:19:04 AM  

Lucidz: TwistedFark: Lucidz: peasants_are_revolting: It's this kind of stupidity that gives cops the idea they can use this flawed reasoning to illegally search vehicles and hassle law-abiding citizens. Never consent to a search, whether you have anything on you or not.

If you don't have anything illegal in the car, wouldn't it be faster to consent, have the officer apologize and be on your way 5 minutes later?

No. Because as soon as you refuse, they have to arrest you or let you go.

Don't you mean "they have to arrest you, let you go out of the kindness of their hards, or call the drug dogs which does not constitute a breach of the 4th amendment." ?

Good luck telilng the judge you felt like the 10 minutes you waited for a drug dog to show up violates the supreme court ruling if it led to finding something illegal in the car.


If the stop has to resort to THAT, there's really nothing kind about it.
 
2013-03-07 05:32:07 AM  

Lucidz: King Something:

And if the cops are feeling really ornery, they can use the dog's (false?) positive as reason to believe there's a non-zero chance that your car may have had illegal drugs in it at some point in history; that reasoning could then be used to justify the seizure by police of all your worldly possessions (car, house, all funds in bank account, etc) except the clothes on your back with absolutely no recourse or due process whatsoever for you.

And yet, if you had nothing illegal in your car, there would have been nothing to worry about.  If I get pulled over, its doubtful a cop will ask to search my car.  Why?  It doesn't smell like weed.  He brings a dog out to sniff my car?  I won't get in trouble.  Why?  No weed.  Blood test me?  No problem. I don't drink and don't smoke weed. Sooooo, basically if you weren't breaking the law in the first place, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, nor be angry at the cops for violating your rights when you're breaking the law.  Problem solved.


Not necessarily.
 
2013-03-07 07:05:36 AM  
penn state -> state pen

and we're done
 
2013-03-07 07:51:29 AM  
dear geography majors talking about supreme court rulings: vancouver is not in the u.s.
 
2013-03-07 08:46:51 AM  
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You must have eaten like, like 100 bucks worth of pot and like 30 bucks worth of shrooms man.
So, I'm gonna, I'm gonna need that 130 bucks, ya know, whenever you get a chance
 
2013-03-07 11:29:48 AM  
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Are you calling me from a cell phone?
 
2013-03-07 11:32:19 AM  

Lucidz: have the officer apologize


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*falls to floor clutching tummy*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-03-07 04:00:22 PM  
There's a reason they call it dope.
 
2013-03-07 04:57:50 PM  

Dirtybird971: There's a reason they call it dope.


Oooh, heavy, man.

Far out!

Ah ah ah!

/Hey I gotta go to the can, man!
 
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