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2013-03-06 09:22:57 PM
Wow, ending slavery and legalizing home brewing, it's been a big month for Mississippitucky.
 
2013-03-06 09:22:57 PM
I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.
 
2013-03-06 09:23:17 PM
Small government conservatism.
 
2013-03-06 09:25:19 PM
It's legal as far as the Feds are concerned, but it's not federally protected. However, even if it is illegal here, it is not enforced.
 
2013-03-06 09:25:37 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.


Dear Right Wing Troll; read the Constitution some time.  This is covered explicitly.
 
2013-03-06 09:27:43 PM
Welcome, brother and sisters, to the glorious world of homebrewing.
 
2013-03-06 09:28:30 PM
Huzzah! Mississippi just got marginally better to live near!
 
2013-03-06 09:28:31 PM
Georgia only legalized it once they got the nod to host the Olympics and realized that they couldn't open any brewpubs for the massive influx of visitors to enjoy.

/used to belong to the Covert Hops Society
 
2013-03-06 09:30:59 PM
"We are opposed to all alcohol liberalization bills," executive director Joe Godfrey <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.abc3340.com/story/21190241/home-brew-b ill-to-go-before-legi slature">tells Birmingham's ABC 33/40. "Alcohol is a mind bending, addictive drug. It has an addictive nature to it. It destroys families, it destroys lives, it's bad for our culture and our society and it's been proven over and over again."

Hey, Cletus.
Tell us what you really think. That brewing requires SCIENCE and is therefore biblically EVIL.
 
2013-03-06 09:33:30 PM
I thought them folks down there was opposed to Sharia Law. Surprised this was on their books to begin with.
 
2013-03-06 09:35:26 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.


FTA: "It wasn't until 1978 that homebrewing became legal under federal law, after a grass-roots effort produced a bill that was signed into law by President Carter. "

Try reading for comprehension next time.
 
2013-03-06 09:38:34 PM
 
2013-03-06 09:43:07 PM
Paging "Cerebral Knievel"
 
2013-03-06 09:43:14 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.


I used to think that - but seeing how much tea-tards, hillbillies, and trailer-trash hate on him, I've been forced to conclude he must have done quite a few things  right.
 
2013-03-06 09:43:37 PM

vudukungfu: "We are opposed to all alcohol liberalization bills," executive director Joe Godfrey <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.abc3340.com/story/21190241/home-brew-b ill-to-go-before-legi slature">tells Birmingham's ABC 33/40. "Alcohol is a mind bending, addictive drug. It has an addictive nature to it. It destroys families, it destroys lives, it's bad for our culture and our society and it's been proven over and over again."

Hey, Cletus.
Tell us what you really think. That brewing requires SCIENCE and is therefore biblically EVIL.


The Magnolia state should totally focus on banning sins like brewing finely-crafted beer, allowing birth control devices to be sold, allowing the races to mix, suffering homaseckshuls the right to exist, etc. Then maybe Gawd Awlmighty would stop throwing hurricanes at them every year. Ya know. If they were "pure" enough.
 
2013-03-06 09:50:09 PM

uatuba: It's legal as far as the Feds are concerned, but it's not federally protected. However, even if it is illegal here, it is not enforced.


So you're saying no black person has yet been found brewing at home?
 
2013-03-06 09:54:04 PM
I blame the influx of soft money from Big Moonshinin'.
 
2013-03-06 10:01:00 PM

jake_lex: What's wrong with the beer they got in Alabama? It drink pretty good, don't it?


I hate to say it, but that's pretty believable for a state rep.

/FROM JUMUNY?!
 
2013-03-06 10:04:00 PM

vudukungfu: "We are opposed to all alcohol liberalization bills," executive director Joe Godfrey <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.abc3340.com/story/21190241/home-brew-b ill-to-go-before-legi slature">tells Birmingham's ABC 33/40. "Alcohol is a mind bending, addictive drug. It has an addictive nature to it. It destroys families, it destroys lives, it's bad for our culture and our society and it's been proven over and over again."

Hey, Cletus.
Tell us what you really think. That brewing requires SCIENCE and is therefore biblically EVIL.


I don't think Cletus is wrong, necessarily. Alcohol wreaks all kinds of havoc...it almost killed me. But, that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. I love(d) booze, but just can't have it anymore due to the addiction that Cletus mentioned. Farked me up real good.

/IPA and tequila were my poisons of choice. Anything with alcohol, eventually
//Sláinte
 
2013-03-06 10:04:43 PM
No abortions after 12 weeks and no home-brew?

Man, fark Alabama with a rusty spike.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:53 PM

BeSerious: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.

FTA: "It wasn't until 1978 that homebrewing became legal under federal law, after a grass-roots effort produced a bill that was signed into law by President Carter. "


What exactly made it illegal under federal law back in 78? I don't think the federal government could prevent a state from allowing its citizens to brew their own. 10th Amendment and 21st, for that matter.

Carter's best law was not applicable.
 
2013-03-06 10:11:31 PM
Is there an actual AAA vacation guide to Alabama? Or is it just a list of the truck stops where old Republican Lynyrd Skynyrd fans tap their feet in time to "Sweet Home Alabama".
 
2013-03-06 10:11:31 PM
BFD.

Wake me up when homedistiller.org is legal.
 
2013-03-06 10:11:41 PM
Call me when the feds legalize distilling your own
 
2013-03-06 10:13:42 PM

freetomato: Georgia only legalized it once they got the nod to host the Olympics and realized that they couldn't open any brewpubs for the massive influx of visitors to enjoy.

/used to belong to the Covert Hops Society


The homebrew bill was in 1993. The brewpub law was passed a year or so later. But yes it was likely passed due to Olympics-related enthusiasm.

Georgia still has to get a law passed to legalize homebrew competitions. I don't think we'll get to-go sales from breweries passed this year.

/Still in Covert Hops, since 1993
//Was even president once
 
2013-03-06 10:18:45 PM
CSB: When I lived in NE Arkansas a zillion summers ago I asked the local boys to find a pint or two of moonshine for my last-day-before-college party.  They did.  It was clear and came in mason (canning) jars.  As a test for sufficient "proof" they splashed some on the driveway and lit it with a match.  "Yep, good 'nuf."  About a dozen of us finished six pints and lived.  It has no taste but burned like blue blazes.

During the festivities, one chap announced, "I married me a fat women to keep my balls off the floor."

No, I didn't go blind (well, not from the rot gut booze, anyway).
 
2013-03-06 10:19:52 PM
This will come as great news to some of my friends who have been doing it for 20+ years.
 
2013-03-06 10:24:48 PM

Noam Chimpsky: BeSerious: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.

FTA: "It wasn't until 1978 that homebrewing became legal under federal law, after a grass-roots effort produced a bill that was signed into law by President Carter. "

What exactly made it illegal under federal law back in 78? I don't think the federal government could prevent a state from allowing its citizens to brew their own. 10th Amendment and 21st, for that matter.

Carter's best law was not applicable.


The federal law was about federal taxes and license being required for all alcoholic beverages. The only exception written until then was for home winemaking.

And all the 21st amendment says is that the 18th is repealed and that "The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited."

This put the authority to regulate alcohol in the hands of the states, but it did not state that the feds could not have their own regulations. All breweries, wineries and distilleries have federal permits, and pay federal taxes. The homebrewing law that Carter signed granted an exception to the federal requirements for licence and taxes to homebrewers.

It would require the same sort of change to the law to allow for home distilling.
 
2013-03-06 10:26:20 PM

rkiller1: CSB: When I lived in NE Arkansas a zillion summers ago I asked the local boys to find a pint or two of moonshine for my last-day-before-college party.  They did.  It was clear and came in mason (canning) jars.  As a test for sufficient "proof" they splashed some on the driveway and lit it with a match.  "Yep, good 'nuf."  About a dozen of us finished six pints and lived.  It has no taste but burned like blue blazes.

During the festivities, one chap announced, "I married me a fat women to keep my balls off the floor."

No, I didn't go blind (well, not from the rot gut booze, anyway).


The national election results make a lot more sense now.
 
2013-03-06 10:30:02 PM

Noam Chimpsky: What exactly made it illegal under federal law back in 78?


Not technically illegal, but subject to federal excise tax.
 
2013-03-06 10:33:22 PM

Ocknard: freetomato: Georgia only legalized it once they got the nod to host the Olympics and realized that they couldn't open any brewpubs for the massive influx of visitors to enjoy.

/used to belong to the Covert Hops Society

The homebrew bill was in 1993. The brewpub law was passed a year or so later. But yes it was likely passed due to Olympics-related enthusiasm.

Georgia still has to get a law passed to legalize homebrew competitions. I don't think we'll get to-go sales from breweries passed this year.

/Still in Covert Hops, since 1993
//Was even president once


I used to really enjoy those meetings, and enjoyed stewarding one competition. I quit going when I divorced my ex. In fact I miss that more than him! I credit that era for expanding my taste beyond MGD and Bud. I haven't brewed in about ten years but still am a bit of a beer snob.

The only part of Alabama I know well is Montgomery. The Civil Rights Museum, the Hank Williams Museum and The Green Lantern restaurant are about the only places outside of Maxwell AFB are the only places I've ventured. Oh, and a Biscuits baseball game. Their mascot was a giant, googly eyed biscuit with a pat of butter for a tongue.
 
2013-03-06 10:35:44 PM
As a homebrewer living in Alabama for a few years, this makes me sad. Happy for our neighbors to the west, but sad for me.
 
2013-03-06 10:36:04 PM
Meh. I really shouldn't fark on mobile. Can't type worth a damn.
 
2013-03-06 10:38:00 PM
All the references to Carter and no

www.mentalfloss.com
?

/am disappoint
 
2013-03-06 10:41:59 PM

uatuba: It's legal as far as the Feds are concerned, but it's not federally protected. However, even if it is illegal here, it is not enforced.


It was always fun when I went back home and visited Lazy Magnolia, since they will sell people hops and barley.

I asked what they were selling it for, since home brewing was illegal.

They responded that they didn't know, but people wanted to buy the stuff so they'd sell it.
 
2013-03-06 10:46:59 PM

jso2897: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought Carter made it federal law?!

I take it back. Carter didn't do a single thing right.

I used to think that - but seeing how much tea-tards, hillbillies, and trailer-trash hate on him, I've been forced to conclude he must have done quite a few things  right.


So, you change your opinion based on what other people think of someone?

I'm so sorry you're stupid.
 
2013-03-06 10:49:11 PM

Delay: Is there an actual AAA vacation guide to Alabama? Or is it just a list of the truck stops where old Republican Lynyrd Skynyrd fans tap their feet in time to "Sweet Home Alabama".


So is being  a bigot something you learned as a scientist, or does it just come naturally?
 
2013-03-06 10:56:50 PM

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: Delay: Is there an actual AAA vacation guide to Alabama? Or is it just a list of the truck stops where old Republican Lynyrd Skynyrd fans tap their feet in time to "Sweet Home Alabama".

So is being  a bigot something you learned as a scientist, or does it just come naturally?


Bigotry is an art, not a science.
 
2013-03-06 11:03:24 PM
Meanwhile ...

hempbeach.com
 
2013-03-06 11:04:29 PM

Delay: rkiller1: CSB: When I lived in NE Arkansas a zillion summers ago I asked the local boys to find a pint or two of moonshine for my last-day-before-college party.  They did.  It was clear and came in mason (canning) jars.  As a test for sufficient "proof" they splashed some on the driveway and lit it with a match.  "Yep, good 'nuf."  About a dozen of us finished six pints and lived.  It has no taste but burned like blue blazes.

During the festivities, one chap announced, "I married me a fat women to keep my balls off the floor."

No, I didn't go blind (well, not from the rot gut booze, anyway).

The national election results make a lot more sense now.


Yep, Bill Clinton was governer at the time.
 
2013-03-06 11:15:09 PM
i'd rather live in Columbia
where distillation of coca spirits is totally rad
 
2013-03-06 11:21:32 PM

Ocknard: It would require the same sort of change to the law to allow for home distilling.


In the meantime, is it time for a little civil disobedience? Gandhi made salt... someone should make ethanol.
 
2013-03-06 11:26:12 PM
As a native Alabamian (of the masters-degree-educated, cultured, anti-organized-religion type) who has been brewing beer since 1994 in Alabama, I'm getting a kick.

What I find strange is that there were several home brewing retail shops in Alabama that were open for well over ten years prior to the Gov. Bently regime being elected last year.

/You're damn right I'm still brewing.
 
2013-03-06 11:59:32 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: i'd rather live in Columbia
where distillation of coca spirits is totally rad


Wut is this "Columbia" you speak of?
 
2013-03-07 01:55:39 AM
Is there any list of the 50 states where Alabama doesn't show up on the shiatty end?  Is there one single good thing Alabama can brag about?
 
2013-03-07 02:03:14 AM
During the debate on the issue, Mississippi Rep. Steve Holland sought to put the new measure in perspective, saying, "100 gallons! That's not much beer for a good drinker," according to a tweet from Raise Your Pints.

100g*128oz/365days=35.06oz/per day or 2.18pints, or as the average Farker calls it, breakfast
 
2013-03-07 02:08:43 AM

Aquapope: Is there any list of the 50 states where Alabama doesn't show up on the shiatty end?  Is there one single good thing Alabama can brag about?


Alphabetically it comes out on top,
 
2013-03-07 02:11:47 AM

tjsands1118: During the debate on the issue, Mississippi Rep. Steve Holland sought to put the new measure in perspective, saying, "100 gallons! That's not much beer for a good drinker," according to a tweet from Raise Your Pints.

100g*128oz/365days=35.06oz/per day or 2.18pints, or as the average Farker calls it, breakfast


Beer used to be a very common breakfast drink - it wasn't as toxic as the available water.  I imagine breakfast beer was a light lager.  Later, for lunch, you would have a porter.  I prefer a good IPA during a shower - the hoppiness really cuts through any suds that get in your mouth.
 
2013-03-07 02:14:14 AM

tjsands1118: Aquapope: Is there any list of the 50 states where Alabama doesn't show up on the shiatty end?  Is there one single good thing Alabama can brag about?

Alphabetically it comes out on top,


Look who else comes up there: Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona... I'd call that the shiatty end.
 
2013-03-07 02:33:53 AM

Aquapope: tjsands1118: During the debate on the issue, Mississippi Rep. Steve Holland sought to put the new measure in perspective, saying, "100 gallons! That's not much beer for a good drinker," according to a tweet from Raise Your Pints.

100g*128oz/365days=35.06oz/per day or 2.18pints, or as the average Farker calls it, breakfast

Beer used to be a very common breakfast drink - it wasn't as toxic as the available water.  I imagine breakfast beer was a light lager.  Later, for lunch, you would have a porter.  I prefer a good IPA during a shower - the hoppiness really cuts through any suds that get in your mouth.


Babies used to be weaned on beer.

Typically, a Victorian working class Briton would drink about 10 pints a day. About half of that would be small beer at 7% in the evening.

It wasn't just that beer was safe and water dangerous, it was the only way they could consume enough calories to fuel their work.
 
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