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(NYPost)   NYPD confirms deadly Brooklyn hit-and-run suspect is in custody in Pennsylvania, he was busted for drunken driving just two weeks before the high-speed crash that took out a couple and their baby   (nypost.com) divider line 115
    More: Spiffy, N.Y.P.D., Pennsylvania, Julio Acevedo, Grand Central Station, Fort Greene  
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2013-03-06 06:45:14 PM
Hang him high
 
2013-03-06 07:02:00 PM
And don't drop him.  Tie the rope while he's on the floor, then pull him up.

/ asshat
 
2013-03-06 07:34:06 PM
Crush his ass in a small car, then push it in the East River.  Don't waste a single taxpayer dollar dragging this ass through court.
 
2013-03-06 07:38:10 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Crush his ass in a small car, then push it in the East River.  Don't waste a single taxpayer dollar dragging this ass through court.


That is an interesting plan, we might want to get you into public office .... punishment fits the crime platform
 
2013-03-06 08:15:55 PM
 
2013-03-06 08:16:16 PM
I didn't hear that the infant died.  :(
 
2013-03-06 08:17:40 PM
I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?
 
2013-03-06 08:34:15 PM

jim32rr: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Crush his ass in a small car, then push it in the East River.  Don't waste a single taxpayer dollar dragging this ass through court.

That is an interesting plan, we might want to get you into public office .... punishment fits the crime platform


Sounds like a plan.  for example, the CEOs of every company that got bailed out has to surrender all of their non-salary compensation to their employees and retirees.  Their crime?  Fraud and financial theft.
 
2013-03-06 08:41:19 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: jim32rr: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Crush his ass in a small car, then push it in the East River.  Don't waste a single taxpayer dollar dragging this ass through court.

That is an interesting plan, we might want to get you into public office .... punishment fits the crime platform

Sounds like a plan.  for example, the CEOs of every company that got bailed out has to surrender all of their non-salary compensation to their employees and retirees.  Their crime?  Fraud and financial theft.


All members of the KKK are racist, but not all racists are members of the KKK

Not all bailed-out banks were committing fraud.
 
2013-03-06 08:53:53 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: jim32rr: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Crush his ass in a small car, then push it in the East River.  Don't waste a single taxpayer dollar dragging this ass through court.

That is an interesting plan, we might want to get you into public office .... punishment fits the crime platform

Sounds like a plan.  for example, the CEOs of every company that got bailed out has to surrender all of their non-salary compensation to their employees and retirees.  Their crime?  Fraud and financial theft.


Bit early for a thread jack
 
2013-03-06 09:02:46 PM
www.nypost.com

Any relation to George?

static4.businessinsider.com
 
2013-03-06 09:04:46 PM

BarkingUnicorn: [www.nypost.com image 525x415]

Any relation to George?

[static4.businessinsider.com image 400x300]


I guess they all look alike to you....
(all killers of young people)
 
2013-03-06 09:06:33 PM

you are a puppet: BarkingUnicorn: [www.nypost.com image 525x415]

Any relation to George?

[static4.businessinsider.com image 400x300]

I guess they all look alike to you....
(all killers of young people)


No, but these two share a strong resemblance.

/not just their calm, innocent eyes, either.
 
2013-03-06 09:06:43 PM
Yet smoking pot & having more than 7 bullets in your gun to stay illegal.
 
2013-03-06 09:07:53 PM

BarkingUnicorn: No, but these two share a strong resemblance.


no.
they do not.
 
2013-03-06 09:08:16 PM
"His demeanor The anus was unremarkable," said NYPD spokesman Paul Browne.

FTFY
 
2013-03-06 09:08:23 PM
Oh geez. It's that "stand your ground" George Zimmerman asshole again.
 
2013-03-06 09:09:13 PM
WILL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S BLOODLUST EVER BE SATIATED?!!?!?!?!

In all seriousness, this guy should be pillared, and everyone in America should be able to kick him square in the balls for a dollar a swing.
 
2013-03-06 09:10:13 PM
I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.
 
2013-03-06 09:12:21 PM

hardinparamedic: WILL GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S BLOODLUST EVER BE SATIATED?!!?!?!?!

In all seriousness, this guy should be pillared, and everyone in America should be able to kick him square in the balls for a dollar a swing.


pilloried.
 
2013-03-06 09:12:26 PM

From brainiac-dumdum's link:

"The reason for his nickname ( 50 Cent) is the subject of debate. Some say it was his half-pint height, others that no amount was too small for him to rob. He owned a gold-colored Jetta, but he was not given to using a getaway car. He simply strolled away from robberies and shootings, even on busy streets in broad daylight. He seemed not to fear anyone."


Omar comin'!

static.nme.com

 
2013-03-06 09:13:46 PM

cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?


Impulsivity runs criminals. Some will be deterred, but in the end, no punishment will really make a difference. Henry VIII executed those guilty of heresy in the most gruesome, bloody, painful, torturous methods possible. Result? Just as many heretics.
 
2013-03-06 09:15:11 PM
Hmmm, maybe our Jewish politicians will re-think Mexican immigration now?

Uhhh, no.
 
2013-03-06 09:15:18 PM
Wait, what happened to all the people here on fark who would cheer this guy on to achieve a high BAC score? Because, you know, drunkenness is funny and should be commended.
 
2013-03-06 09:16:36 PM
Baby?  You mean "glob of cells" don't you subby?
 
2013-03-06 09:16:59 PM
[sarcasm] See MADD is right, lower the legal BAC to .03 and this never would have happened![/sarcasm]
 
2013-03-06 09:17:01 PM
My step sister was killed by a drunk driver who ran a red light. It was her 6th or 7th dui. She was out within 5 years.

If you cause someone's death while driving drunk, you deserve to be incarcerated for decades. Drunk drivers make a choice to not get a sober ride or walk home. There's no excuse.
 
2013-03-06 09:19:23 PM
"His demeanor was unremarkable,"

in other words, he acted like an anus.

i kind of think that three dead people, including a baby, negates the 'spiffy'ness of the guy getting caught. but maybe the baby would have grown up to be the next Hitler, but with nuclear weapons and super-SARS; the whole thing would be spiffy then, i guess.
 
2013-03-06 09:24:01 PM

ubermensch: Wait, what happened to all the people here on fark who would cheer this guy on to achieve a high BAC score? Because, you know, drunkenness is funny and should be commended.


Drunkenness is funny. Driving drunk on the other hand is inexcusable. Drink at home or plan ahead.
 
2013-03-06 09:26:04 PM

cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?


How about revocation of their license for 6 months first offence, and their car impounded for a year for the second. They pay the impost fees.
 
GBB
2013-03-06 09:32:51 PM
www.nypost.com

Oo
 
2013-03-06 09:37:46 PM

cman: Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?


What, are you "soft on crime"?  Death penalty! DEATH!  It's the only way to make sure they can't do it again!  Won't somebody think of the unborn children??
 
2013-03-06 09:38:43 PM
mexicano hijo de puta
 
GBB
2013-03-06 09:39:02 PM

lohphat: cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?

How about revocation of their license for 6 months first offence, and their car impounded for a year for the second. They pay the impost fees.


Why don't we take the recidivism into account and create a registry of these offenders.  Then, pass local legislation that forbids them from living, working, or being within 500 feet of any establishment that serves or sells alcohol and also ban them from ever getting into any wheeled transportation even as a passenger.  Skateboard?  no.  Unicycle?  no.  I don't care if they had a heart attack at a McDonald's, they can walk their stupid selves to the nearest hospital.  (I guess technically a helicopter doesn't have wheels, but, whatever)

/seriously, I would sign that petition.
 
2013-03-06 09:46:04 PM
I don't believe I need to expand upon my previous comments.
 
2013-03-06 09:47:21 PM

GoldSpider: Baby?  You mean "glob of cells" don't you subby?


Not subby but they did perform an emergency c section to save the baby... Unfortunately it's injuries were too severe and it passed the next day
 
2013-03-06 09:49:53 PM

GoldSpider: Baby?  You mean "glob of cells" don't you subby?


i think he means snot buggers
 
2013-03-06 09:51:44 PM

BarkingUnicorn: [www.nypost.com image 525x415]

Any relation to George?

[static4.businessinsider.com image 400x300]


Only spiritual.
 
2013-03-06 09:54:31 PM
His demeanor was unremarkable," said NYPD spokesman Paul Browne.

But his anus won't be in prison. It will receive lots of attention.
 
2013-03-06 09:55:54 PM
All Day I Dream About Slammer

www.nypost.com
 
2013-03-06 09:57:30 PM
 
2013-03-06 09:58:49 PM
Iron maidens seem pretty cool.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
hnb
2013-03-06 10:00:40 PM
Yay! Another 'burn the drunk drivers' thread! Let's all get our righteousness on!
 
2013-03-06 10:00:50 PM
Well this thread seems to have gone off the rails in record time. Kudos!
 
2013-03-06 10:00:58 PM
That dude's name is frighteningly similar to the car company that I use, in Brooklyn.

*cue spooky Theramin music*
 
2013-03-06 10:00:58 PM

GBB: Why don't we take the recidivism into account and create a registry of these offenders.  Then, pass local legislation that forbids them from living, working, or being within 500 feet of any establishment that serves or sells alcohol and also ban them from ever getting into any wheeled transportation even as a passenger.


I'm not because these overtly punative measures are like a scarlet letter and then ruin their lives long after their DUI and then they become unemployable burdens on the taxpayer.

Like maintaining roads and HSR and nationalized healthcare to keep overall costs down, most other countries have very harsh DUI laws which then don't cause the offender to become a burden on the taxpayer.

This is why HSR and other local transit systems are important: To provide transport to those who can't drive or shouldn't.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:47 PM

hnb: Yay! Another 'burn the drunk drivers' thread! Let's all get our righteousness on!


When a drunk driver kills a family in a hit and run, you expect people to be nice and understanding to him?

No one forced him to get intoxicated and get behind the wheel. Sorry. No dice.

While alcoholism is a medical problem, the moment you decide to perform an action that endangers innumerable people and cost two lives is the moment I stop feeling sorry for you
 
2013-03-06 10:05:02 PM

GoldSpider: Baby?  You mean "glob of cells" don't you subby?


Did you miss the part where the baby was on life support and survived the crash only to die afterwards? Don't confuse a foetus with a baby.
 
2013-03-06 10:07:25 PM

iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.

pjmedia.com


Of course, many of my fellow Americans would be butthurt forever if such a sensible policy were ever implemented...
 
2013-03-06 10:09:03 PM
Well this is one S.O.B. that should be put under the jail.

/if he's guilty
 
2013-03-06 10:09:41 PM

iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.


Germany has public transportation options. How does the guy drinking in a bar in Montana get a taxi or train home when his BAC is over .08?

I say we raise the legal limit and increase the penalties for violations. I can have 2 beers in an hour and be alright to drive but my BAC would be over .08.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:54 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.

Germany has public transportation options. How does the guy drinking in a bar in Montana get a taxi or train home when his BAC is over .08?


This is definitely key.  We'd see DUIs drop drastically if places other than huge metropolitan areas had public transportation.  Not everyone can live in a major city.  I had a minor brain surgery last month and won't be able to drive for another five weeks.  I live in a suburban area, so I'm stuck in my house 24 hours a day because there's no public transportation and nothing within walking distance (not that it's safe to walk on heavily-traveled roads with no shoulders).

I'm certainly not excusing DUIs - don't get me wrong.  But this past month has really emphasized how critical having an automobile is to having any kind of life in America.
 
2013-03-06 10:20:07 PM

the801: i kind of think that three dead people, including a baby, negates the 'spiffy'ness of the guy getting caught. but maybe the baby would have grown up to be the next Hitler


Since these were the parents

www.nypost.com

I'm gonna take a risk and say that baby wasn't gonna be Hitler.

/string the farking coward up
 
2013-03-06 10:20:54 PM

hnb: Yay! Another 'burn the drunk drivers' thread! Let's all get our righteousness on!


Really?  You're white-nighting a drunk driver?

Actually, he's much more than that.  He's someone who should have been shot and killed long ago.
 
2013-03-06 10:26:03 PM

iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.


My car starts just fine without a license.
 
2013-03-06 10:26:32 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.

Germany has public transportation options. How does the guy drinking in a bar in Montana get a taxi or train home when his BAC is over .08?

I say we raise the legal limit and increase the penalties for violations. I can have 2 beers in an hour and be alright to drive but my BAC would be over .08.


The penalties don't stop the drunks now. Unless you're talking about multi-decade prison terms your view is doomed to fail.

A Wisconsinite needs this lesson?
 
2013-03-06 10:27:09 PM

Crackers Are a Family Food: I'm certainly not excusing DUIs - don't get me wrong.


Nor am I. People who are on their 3rd-10th conviction should not have been able to get that far. MADD keeps lobbying for lower and lower legal BAC limits which doesn't discourage people from having a few drinks and then driving home, it just makes it easier to arrest people who had a few drinks and then drove.

I think the BAC limits should be raised and the penalties increased.
 
2013-03-06 10:28:03 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.

[pjmedia.com image 379x214]

Of course, many of my fellow Americans would be butthurt forever if such a sensible policy were ever implemented...


Too many big businesses rely on you being able to get to their place of operations for this to ever go through, even BEFORE regular people begin taking sides.
 
2013-03-06 10:31:24 PM
I hope the guy gets off scott free.

You haven't executed him the first several times he earned a trip to the morgue why stop him now? Don't be soft on crime until the victim is conspicuous.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:57 PM

2wolves: The penalties don't stop the drunks now. Unless you're talking about multi-decade prison terms your view is doomed to fail.

A Wisconsinite needs this lesson?


GPS monitoring. Farking kiddie porn violators have it harder than drunk drivers.

Drunk drivers get 1 easy pass imho. $5k in fines, 18 months in jail or 3 years on the bracelet. Second offense is 5 years in jail without parole or huber, 3rd offense is 10 years without parole or huber. There are a few guys around the state that are near or past their 10th offense.
 
2013-03-06 10:37:30 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Crackers Are a Family Food: I'm certainly not excusing DUIs - don't get me wrong.

Nor am I. People who are on their 3rd-10th conviction should not have been able to get that far.


Agreed.  Maybe it's just me, but if I fark something up and there are serious consequences, lord knows my dumb ass will never repeat it.  But I guess some people never learn.
 
2013-03-06 10:41:06 PM
Lesson:

ALWAYS wear a seatbelt. Cabs are not magical insulators from Newtonian physics.
 
2013-03-06 10:42:25 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Drunk drivers get 1 easy pass imho. $5k in fines, 18 months in jail


Who pays for that? $5K isn't

We have the largest percentage of citizens incarcerated in the world -- it's not helping.
 
2013-03-06 10:46:34 PM
Some guy in Wisconsin just got his 13th DUI, think its a sport there
 
2013-03-06 10:53:14 PM

cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?


As a victim of a drunk driver who shouldn't have survived, thank you.

And if you look at Scandinavian countries, there is almost zero tolerance of drunk driving. I think you lose your license for a year for the first offense and ten years for the second.. it's been a while but it is severe enough that my cousins are always careful...
 
2013-03-06 10:59:04 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-06 10:59:20 PM

moonscatter: cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?

As a victim of a drunk driver who shouldn't have survived, thank you.

And if you look at Scandinavian countries, there is almost zero tolerance of drunk driving. I think you lose your license for a year for the first offense and ten years for the second.. it's been a while but it is severe enough that my cousins are always careful...


Not only do you lose your license, the fines are serious coin and are scaled to income.
 
2013-03-06 11:02:25 PM
I am ashamed to say I got a DUI in '02. I blew a hair over the legal limit and was pulled over by a married cop whose advances I spurned a couple of days before. He was waiting for me. Fact remains, I should not have been driving, and I am eternally grateful I didn't hurt anyone. They didn't just throw the book at me, they beat me over the head with it. First traffic violation ever, in my 30s. 6 months of AA meetings, with an attendance card signed, only driving to work and back, attend DUI classes and substance abuse class, 40 hrs of community service and paying a probation officer for meeting him weekly. And the fine. And 24 hours in jail. Over 8 grand all told and my eternal contrition. Never again. In a weird way I am grateful for the lesson learned. I could not have lived with myself if I'd hurt anyone. What's a pisser is that the same day I was nabbed, a prominent Atlanta preacher drove drunk and killed someone. Slap on the wrist. I guess he could afford a good lawyer.
 
2013-03-06 11:03:47 PM

GoldSpider: Baby?  You mean "glob of cells" don't you subby?


Stay classy, you 150lb glob of cells!
 
2013-03-06 11:08:38 PM

cman: Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?




Wow 15 years because a cop says you failed a sobriety check? Ouch.

How about we jail people with IQs below a certain point? That way they will know that dumb people need to be careful.

Fry the guy.
 
2013-03-06 11:17:40 PM
FTFA:  "Acevedo, who was busted for drunken driving just two week before the high-speed crash, told ABC News/Channel 7 yesterday that he was fleeing a gunman in Fort Greene when he smashed into the couple. The newlyweds were on their way to the hospital."

The guy is clearly an upstanding and model citizen.  Alright, that's enough sarcasm.  I've got zero sympathy for this waste of oxygen.  I hope due process ends with him having life in prison.
 
2013-03-06 11:18:20 PM

freetomato: I am ashamed to say I got a DUI in '02. I blew a hair over the legal limit and was pulled over by a married cop whose advances I spurned a couple of days before. He was waiting for me. Fact remains, I should not have been driving, and I am eternally grateful I didn't hurt anyone. They didn't just throw the book at me, they beat me over the head with it. First traffic violation ever, in my 30s. 6 months of AA meetings, with an attendance card signed, only driving to work and back, attend DUI classes and substance abuse class, 40 hrs of community service and paying a probation officer for meeting him weekly. And the fine. And 24 hours in jail. Over 8 grand all told and my eternal contrition. Never again. In a weird way I am grateful for the lesson learned. I could not have lived with myself if I'd hurt anyone. What's a pisser is that the same day I was nabbed, a prominent Atlanta preacher drove drunk and killed someone. Slap on the wrist. I guess he could afford a good lawyer.


It's extremely unlikely you would have hurt anyone at a hair over the legal limit.  It's only slightly more likely than if you hadn't been drinking.  BAC limits are not set at reasonable levels.  At the current limits, it is totally possible to drive a little more slowly and carefully than normal and still be completely safe, just as you would if you were tired, or if your passengers were having a distracting conversation (neither of which are illegal, and neither of which cause an unacceptable number of injuries or deaths).

Drunk driving laws have gotten totally out of hand.  The limits need to be raised.  On the other hand, people who go over those higher limits need to be punished more harshly.  The people causing the most serious problems are not people who go slightly over the limit after having a few drinks at a restaurant---it's people who go WAY over the limit, repeatedly, because they have real alcohol problems.
 
2013-03-06 11:23:28 PM

StoPPeRmobile: cman: Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?



Wow 15 years because a cop says you failed a sobriety check? Ouch.

How about we jail people with IQs below a certain point? That way they will know that dumb people need to be careful.

Fry the guy.


If having a low IQ was a felony, large numbers of the US population would be incarcerated.

Sarah Palin's fan club wouldn't be allowed to vote.

I'm ok with that.
 
2013-03-06 11:28:30 PM
So can you get rid of all of the alcohol in you in 3 days?  I'm guessing that's why he disappeared.
 
2013-03-06 11:29:54 PM
I will assume PA's finest will accidently bounce his face into every wall and doorknob in the place.


/prayers to the family
 
2013-03-06 11:46:35 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?

Impulsivity runs criminals. Some will be deterred, but in the end, no punishment will really make a difference. Henry VIII executed those guilty of heresy in the most gruesome, bloody, painful, torturous methods possible. Result? Just as many heretics.


well, if you execute drunk drivers, at least there won't be any repeat offenders.  Fear of death might even convince a few more than other penalties from doing it as well.

Realistically, I can't wait till driverless cars are the norm, maybe the only kind allowed on highways or something, then this kind of crap will go away.  humans are too slow, stupid, and emotional to be allowed to drive multi ton bullets near each other.
 
2013-03-07 12:31:02 AM

ubermensch: Wait, what happened to all the people here on fark who would cheer this guy on to achieve a high BAC score? Because, you know, drunkenness is funny and should be commended.


Farkers are smart. Smart people don't drink and drive.
 
2013-03-07 12:38:48 AM

cman: I knew someone who was much older than me who lost his entire family to a drunk driver. This was back in the 70s, and know how much jailtime he got for three deaths? Two years. Two damn years.

I am sorry but if you took a life because you decided to drive while intoxicated you deserve a harsh penalty. Sure, you didnt intend to kill them, but nonetheless, the action you took led to their deaths.

Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?


Wait, I've been told over and over that criminals don't obey laws, and therefore there's no point in stiffening penalties. That it won't stop these crimes.  That there are law-abiding citizens and criminals, sharp distinction, and the latter are not deterred by penalties.

Or does that somehow magically only apply to gun crimes?
 
2013-03-07 12:42:08 AM

Delay: Oh geez. It's that "stand your ground" George Zimmerman asshole again.


No kidding!  Thinking he had the right to defend himself. What an idiot.
 
2013-03-07 12:46:35 AM

KellyKellyKelly: the801: i kind of think that three dead people, including a baby, negates the 'spiffy'ness of the guy getting caught. but maybe the baby would have grown up to be the next Hitler

Since these were the parents

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i would so fark the hell out of that hat.
 
2013-03-07 01:30:02 AM
There was a guy in my old neighbourhood who had his license taken away for being a drunk driver. One time I called the police because he ran his car through the sign which indicated end of road and stuck it into a field. He was driving without a license then. And after that, he was also driving without a license when he struck and killed a kid on the side of the road. I also have an uncle who was struck and killed in a crosswalk by a drunk unlicensed driver. You take away some people's licenses for DUI and they still drive around killing people.
 
2013-03-07 01:32:12 AM
What is wrong with Fark today?

Two young parents and a baby are dead - DEAD - because of a criminal with an assault vehicle.  This person wasn't even supposed to be driving, much less in control of a car that could exceed the speed limit by dozens of miles an hour.

Yet I see absolutely no calls for sports car control, large capacity gas tank bans, universal breathalyzer-ignition interlocks, or background checks on all car sales.

Surely Fark wouldn't be packed full of such hypocrites.


Surely...
 
2013-03-07 01:39:43 AM

freetomato: StoPPeRmobile: cman: Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?

Wow 15 years because a cop says you failed a sobriety check? Ouch.

How about we jail people with IQs below a certain point? That way they will know that dumb people need to be careful.

Fry the guy.

If having a low IQ was a felony, large numbers of the US population would be incarcerated.

Sarah Palin's fan club wouldn't be allowed to vote.

I'm ok with that.


Exactly. They would be documented. It would be a start.
 
2013-03-07 01:41:28 AM

freetomato: StoPPeRmobile: cman: Along with that, we should harshen the jail sentences of DWI/DUI arrestees. 15 year prison sentences will kind of motivate people to not drink and drive, wouldnt you agree?

Wow 15 years because a cop says you failed a sobriety check? Ouch.

How about we jail people with IQs below a certain point? That way they will know that dumb people need to be careful.

Fry the guy.

If having a low IQ was a felony, large numbers of the US population would be incarcerated.

Sarah Palin's fan club wouldn't be allowed to vote.

I'm ok with that.


No, it wouldn't be a start. I take that back. It would be a paradigm shift. I'm not suggesting "smart" people should run thing, BTW.
 
2013-03-07 01:42:54 AM

ubermensch: Wait, what happened to all the people here on fark who would cheer this guy on to achieve a high BAC score? Because, you know, drunkenness is funny and should be commended.


It is only bad to court disaster if, and only if, disaster occurs.

At least according to an awful lot of farkers.
 
2013-03-07 02:07:29 AM

eagles95: I will assume PA's finest will accidently bounce his face into every wall and doorknob in the place.


/prayers to the family



Especially AFTER they find out what he done.
 
2013-03-07 02:46:14 AM
There is a clear solution here. Repeat DUI offenders who kill someone while driving drunk should be required to enter a race on an oval racetrack, half going clockwise, half turning clockwise. The last survivor of this year's event gets pole position in next year's event. Make it Pay Per View, and voila, revenue is generated to roll back the sequester.
 
2013-03-07 03:11:40 AM

gregscott: There is a clear solution here. Repeat DUI offenders who kill someone while driving drunk should be required to enter a race on an oval racetrack, half going clockwise, half turning clockwise. The last survivor of this year's event gets pole position in next year's event. Make it Pay Per View, and voila, revenue is generated to roll back the sequester.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-07 03:24:54 AM
Mandate criminal back-ground checks on all vehicle purchases.  Require transfer of automobiles illegal between private individuals, and make it illegal to own a vehicle if unlicensed. Make violations of these crimes expensive, to pay for their implementation.
 
2013-03-07 04:00:12 AM

Yogimus: Mandate criminal back-ground checks on all vehicle purchases.  Require transfer of automobiles illegal between private individuals, and make it illegal to own a vehicle if unlicensed. Make violations of these crimes expensive, to pay for their implementation.


Good point!

Oh, wait!  I meant, you're an idiot!

Silly typos.
 
2013-03-07 04:01:33 AM

vrax: Yogimus: Mandate criminal back-ground checks on all vehicle purchases.  Require transfer of automobiles illegal between private individuals, and make it illegal to own a vehicle if unlicensed. Make violations of these crimes expensive, to pay for their implementation.

Good point!

Oh, wait!  I meant, you're an idiot!

Silly typos.


Explain the flaw in the proposition, if you would please.
 
2013-03-07 04:11:24 AM

Yogimus: vrax: Yogimus: Mandate criminal back-ground checks on all vehicle purchases.  Require transfer of automobiles illegal between private individuals, and make it illegal to own a vehicle if unlicensed. Make violations of these crimes expensive, to pay for their implementation.

Good point!

Oh, wait!  I meant, you're an idiot!

Silly typos.

Explain the flaw in the proposition, if you would please.


The flaw is in you trying to be clever and interject your objection to firearms legislation into the issue.  Vehicles and firearms, while both can kill (as can nearly anything), require different legal consideration as their base purposes are dissimilar.
 
2013-03-07 04:12:12 AM

HeWhoHasNoName: What is wrong with Fark today?

Two young parents and a baby are dead - DEAD - because of a criminal with an assault vehicle.  This person wasn't even supposed to be driving, much less in control of a car that could exceed the speed limit by dozens of miles an hour.

Yet I see absolutely no calls for sports car control, large capacity gas tank bans, universal breathalyzer-ignition interlocks, or background checks on all car sales.

Surely Fark wouldn't be packed full of such hypocrites.


Surely...


You're weird.
 
2013-03-07 04:15:21 AM

vrax: The flaw is in you trying to be clever and interject your objection to firearms legislation into the issue.  Vehicles and firearms, while both can kill (as can nearly anything), require different legal consideration as their base purposes are dissimilar.


That's the best retort I've seen on FARK to that nonsense line.

You, Sir, win one internet.
 
2013-03-07 04:23:25 AM

hardinparamedic: vrax: The flaw is in you trying to be clever and interject your objection to firearms legislation into the issue.  Vehicles and firearms, while both can kill (as can nearly anything), require different legal consideration as their base purposes are dissimilar.

That's the best retort I've seen on FARK to that nonsense line.

You, Sir, win one internet.


I'm glad it's small.

i45.tinypic.com

Otherwise I'd have no idea where to put it.
 
2013-03-07 04:26:42 AM
I wasn't entirely facetious
 
2013-03-07 04:28:50 AM
Namely, address the comment, if you would be so kind, and keep it on subject.
 
2013-03-07 04:34:16 AM

Yogimus: I wasn't entirely facetious


You were almost entirely fatuous.
 
2013-03-07 04:41:28 AM
I'd be happy if gun ownership required the same sort of regulation and registration that goes into car ownership, trolls.

Having lived outside of America for the last decade, I've got to say that one of the scarier things to reflect on is how many people drive drunk there. I did it myself from time to time, and nearly every bar I ever worked at had a huge parking lot. There's just no social stigma to it. Sure, maybe in the right crowd it's looked down on, but that's pretty rare. Driving home remains a viable option for most people weaving their way out of a bar. What should be a rarity is instead routine. It's messed up.
 
2013-03-07 05:28:17 AM

Yogimus: Mandate criminal back-ground checks on all vehicle purchases.  Require transfer of automobiles illegal between private individuals, and make it illegal to own a vehicle if unlicensed. Make violations of these crimes expensive, to pay for their implementation.


Is there going to be a car show loophole I can exploit to get around these expensive regulations?
 
2013-03-07 05:32:26 AM
"His demeanor was unremarkable," said NYPD spokesman Paul Browne.

"His anus, though, will be FABULOUS!" said his future cellmate, Bubba.
 
2013-03-07 06:09:49 AM

swahnhennessy: I'd be happy if gun ownership required the same sort of regulation and registration that goes into car ownership, trolls.



Food for thought: with much laxer restrictions on firearms, a much lower percentage of them are involved in accidents than more restricted vehicles which are designed to be safe. Weird, right?


But what I really wanna talk about is drunk driving. You can't legislate it away. Tokyo is a city of alcoholics. EVERYONE is drunk pretty much daily. Why is the DUI rate so low? Nobody drives. There's plenty of light rail and you can walk all over. Japan has draconian DUI laws, too, but they're bullshiat because the only people who can afford to drive to go drinking can afford a chauffeur as well.

Pittsburgh is also a city of alcoholics. There's no real train service. There's drunks on the road every night. Why? You can't get der from here less'n y'inz drive n'at. In English: there's no way to get from anywhere to anywhere without some road time. Add to this that even without price concerns there ain't enough taxis in the county for even one quarter of the drunks who have to get home for work the next day.

Rather than increase the penalties for drunk drivers, which is like soldiers having their next of kin sue enemy soldiers who killed them, we should install prophylactic measures in society that make it easier for the indulgent types to wet their whistle without driving to and from ye olde public house. First order of business, of course, is better public transport. That will get drunks and potential victims off the roads. Always aim there first. Any other ideas?
 
2013-03-07 06:27:28 AM
Outlaw booze.

/ runs from the room.
 
2013-03-07 06:35:54 AM

doglover: swahnhennessy: I'd be happy if gun ownership required the same sort of regulation and registration that goes into car ownership, trolls.



Food for thought: with much laxer restrictions on firearms, a much lower percentage of them are involved in accidents than more restricted vehicles which are designed to be safe. Weird, right?


But what I really wanna talk about is drunk driving. You can't legislate it away. Tokyo is a city of alcoholics. EVERYONE is drunk pretty much daily. Why is the DUI rate so low? Nobody drives. There's plenty of light rail and you can walk all over. Japan has draconian DUI laws, too, but they're bullshiat because the only people who can afford to drive to go drinking can afford a chauffeur as well.

Pittsburgh is also a city of alcoholics. There's no real train service. There's drunks on the road every night. Why? You can't get der from here less'n y'inz drive n'at. In English: there's no way to get from anywhere to anywhere without some road time. Add to this that even without price concerns there ain't enough taxis in the county for even one quarter of the drunks who have to get home for work the next day.

Rather than increase the penalties for drunk drivers, which is like soldiers having their next of kin sue enemy soldiers who killed them, we should install prophylactic measures in society that make it easier for the indulgent types to wet their whistle without driving to and from ye olde public house. First order of business, of course, is better public transport. That will get drunks and potential victims off the roads. Always aim there first. Any other ideas?


As a former native there used to be a bar on every corner that didn't have a church. Now if you insisted on drinking on 51 South or Carrick or up on Mt. Washington you needed to cab or take the chance of killing yourself (fine) or someone else.
 
2013-03-07 08:07:15 AM

HeWhoHasNoName: What is wrong with Fark today?

Two young parents and a baby are dead - DEAD - because of a criminal with an assault vehicle.  This person wasn't even supposed to be driving, much less in control of a car that could exceed the speed limit by dozens of miles an hour.

Yet I see absolutely no calls for sports car control, large capacity gas tank bans, universal breathalyzer-ignition interlocks, or background checks on all car sales.

Surely Fark wouldn't be packed full of such hypocrites.


Surely...


An assault vehicle? Really?
 
2013-03-07 08:48:18 AM
The description of that original 50 Cent guy reminds me of
 
2013-03-07 08:49:23 AM

Erix: The description of that original 50 Cent guy reminds me of


cdn.mos.totalfilm.com

not sure why that didn't work before..
 
2013-03-07 08:56:03 AM

earthworm2.0: HeWhoHasNoName: What is wrong with Fark today?

Two young parents and a baby are dead - DEAD - because of a criminal with an assault vehicle.  This person wasn't even supposed to be driving, much less in control of a car that could exceed the speed limit by dozens of miles an hour.

Yet I see absolutely no calls for sports car control, large capacity gas tank bans, universal breathalyzer-ignition interlocks, or background checks on all car sales.

Surely Fark wouldn't be packed full of such hypocrites.


Surely...

An assault vehicle? Really?


You don't spend any time in the gun threads, I'm guessing.
 
2013-03-07 09:23:09 AM
If this guy is a convicted killer and also did other shiat later including the DUI, why the fark wasn't he in jail for life already?
 
2013-03-07 10:02:38 AM

sno man: earthworm2.0: HeWhoHasNoName: What is wrong with Fark today?

Two young parents and a baby are dead - DEAD - because of a criminal with an assault vehicle.  This person wasn't even supposed to be driving, much less in control of a car that could exceed the speed limit by dozens of miles an hour.

Yet I see absolutely no calls for sports car control, large capacity gas tank bans, universal breathalyzer-ignition interlocks, or background checks on all car sales.

Surely Fark wouldn't be packed full of such hypocrites.


Surely...

An assault vehicle? Really?

You don't spend any time in the gun threads, I'm guessing.


Some people can't see a difference between something designed for a particular use but can cause harm or death if used with gross negligence and another thing that was specifically designed to cause as much harm and death as possible when used properly.
 
2013-03-07 11:08:27 AM

Yogimus: Mandate criminal back-ground checks on all vehicle purchases.  Already done. what did you think the "credit check" was for?Require transfer of automobiles illegal between private individuals As long as this is all documented and filed with the state, guns/cars should be transferrable. Cars are made to do this, called title transfer/registration. Guns are the next step., and make it illegal to own a vehicle if unlicensed. It is.Make violations of these crimes expensive, to pay for their implementation.The fines are expensive, and they are implemented.


And fishingthesky, you're hilarious.
 
2013-03-07 01:06:37 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: 2wolves: The penalties don't stop the drunks now. Unless you're talking about multi-decade prison terms your view is doomed to fail.

A Wisconsinite needs this lesson?

GPS monitoring. Farking kiddie porn violators have it harder than drunk drivers.

Drunk drivers get 1 easy pass imho. $5k in fines, 18 months in jail or 3 years on the bracelet. Second offense is 5 years in jail without parole or huber, 3rd offense is 10 years without parole or huber. There are a few guys around the state that are near or past their 10th offense.


And I doubt those people are wealthy. I knew a couple of people in their early twenties who had multiple DUIs but wealthy mommy and daddy got them out of trouble. If I remember correctly, one did end up getting her license suspended for 6 months after the 5 offense or so.

/she doesn't do that anymore, thank god.
 
2013-03-07 02:08:58 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: iheartscotch: I've always agreed with Germany on drunk driving. Driving is a privilege. You get convicted of drunk driving once? No more licence for you; ever. Plus huge fines and 30 days in jail.

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Of course, many of my fellow Americans would be butthurt forever if such a sensible policy were ever implemented...


No more Licence ? Really? in which Germany? As far as I know the suspension is for a limited duration for most DUI charges.
 
2013-03-07 05:35:09 PM
Apparently this guy is a convicted violent felon as well
and just got busted fer another DUI

Someone shares the responsibility for releasing him to take more lives
 
2013-03-07 06:00:14 PM

natas6.0: Apparently this guy is a convicted violent felon as well
and just got busted fer another DUI

Someone shares the responsibility for releasing him to take more lives


^agree. This should come up the next time the district attorney comes up for a vote.
 
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