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2013-03-06 05:41:57 PM
6 votes:
Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.
2013-03-06 06:21:50 PM
4 votes:
Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..
2013-03-06 05:23:58 PM
3 votes:
So they're heading home then?
2013-03-06 05:50:02 PM
2 votes:
Pay your farkng bill or get out... That simple... You have been asked to move out so repairs can be made and refused.... Quit biatching and move to a better option (if there is one, your stupid ass is staying put for a reason)

/GO HOME, I'm sure it's better there....
2013-03-06 05:45:21 PM
2 votes:

too_amuzed: In NY, 1250 will get you one of the mouse holes.


s.wsj.net
2013-03-06 07:36:13 PM
1 votes:

SirEattonHogg: cloud_van_dame :  kiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.

Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?


Not when I was there in the late 90's.  Lived right next to Land Park.  Got to hear the sheriff ghetto bird doing runs over lovely Oak Park and noise of gunfire.   For a city the size of Sacramento, the crime news in the Sacramento Bee was pretty horrific.

To be fair, that was over a decade ago.  Maybe things are better?


Certain areas of downtown are pits. Specifically near the street named for a pacifist black man- always tons of crime there. However, there's the fab 40's and Tahoe Park. Gorgeous neighborhoods with high home value.

Also, I've never lived downtown. Always about 15 mins east in fair oaks/Carmichael, if anyone knows where that is.

And to whomever said that its 4 hours to Tahoe and SF? I've got news for you. It's 55 minutes from my mom's house, which is 20 mins from mine. And SF? I can get there in 70 minutes on a Saturday morning. If you hit any major freeway between 1pm and 8pm in sac, yes, you're going to have issues.

/I know where to get good lox not in a package
//and where there is a Jewish deli
2013-03-06 07:19:51 PM
1 votes:

Solid State Vittles: Marine1: "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".

Said no one ever.


... kU fan-like typing detected.

Seriously, though, there are pretty nice areas in Missouri. KC, North; Columbia; St. Louis County... places where housing is affordable (2-bedroom, 2-car garage: $180,000), crime is relatively low, commutes aren't horrible, and schools are good. Job growth isn't shabby, either. You could certainly do worse, save the er... spicy... variety of weather we have around here.
2013-03-06 07:18:34 PM
1 votes:

Carth: DC


Came in here to say exactly this... so I'll just add "In NoVA, you get all that AND TRAFFIC!"
2013-03-06 07:00:43 PM
1 votes:
We pay $760 a month for a 2 bedroom, one bath apartment (1015 sq feet) that's just a short walk to shopping, transit and is less than 10 minutes away from my son's workplace. Full-size washer & dryer in unit, seasonal pool, granite countertops. Brand new tiles were installed in the kitchen, dining room, bathroom and vanity before we moved in. And best of all, free expanded basic cable so now all we have to pay for is internet, plus we got a couple of bonuses when we signed a lease. A $200 gift card to the store of our choice and the Comcast representative the complex works through also gave us 6 months of HBO for free.

The rent is higher than in our previous place, but not having to pay for cable balances that out, plus our previous place had none of the amenities that our new place does.
2013-03-06 06:43:14 PM
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.


The location of your jobs means that one of you will have to commute significantly further unless you want to live in South-Central Los Angeles (roughly defined as the area between the 405, the 5, and the 10 freeways, though there are pockets of good in there. I do not recommend living in your average municipality in that area if you have the means to live elsewhere, most of those neighborhoods have bars on the windows, or are just plain ghetto. You'll do fine in Redondo/Hermosa, but you might have sticker shock on the prices. Note, however, that I have never rented a home in this area, single apartments in this area are all over $1k a month. Also your commute to City of Industry will be long, basically nightmarish long depending on the time of day since you'll likely have to use more than 2 freeways to reduce the distance (there are no southwest-to-northeast freeways in that area).

There are some nice areas in Whittier/ La Mirada that might be in your price range, and while not rich, they're certainly not as bad as south-central. You likely won't find many bars on the windows there. Your wife will unfortunately have to commute a ways, but she can use the 105, which is almost a straight shot between work/home from that area.

You could just say f-it and move to orange county, but then both of you would have very long commutes.

You could move to Long Beach, there are nice areas in Long Beach, Lakewood, & Cerritos. Those areas are not OC. That area generally gets a nice ocean breeze, especially Long Beach proper. However, again, both of you would have fairly lengthy commutes depending on time of day. The good news with Lakewood & Cerritos is they contract out their police services to LA County Sheriff, which is the most professional police force in the state (and it shows when stacked up against LAPD).

You can likely find some places in and around Pasadena that are nice, however, your wifes commute to the beach cities then becomes a big deal.

I can't find a good solution because your jobs straddle the ghetto in a way that makes freeway use difficult, unless you want to live in Downtown Los Angeles or the ghetto. You can find pockets of non-bar-window neighborhoods in the large swath of Southern California known as South Central, but they are few and far between, and in this era of major municipal budget cuts, I wouldn't trust those neighborhoods to remain good bets.
2013-03-06 06:30:11 PM
1 votes:

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


In California, it's the mountains and the water.  This does 2 things.

1) It sharply limits the amount of available space.  (The Bay area is REALLY terrible about this.  You're either in the valley or looking at a 3-hour one-way commute over a couple mountain ranges (or possibly both because the entire East and South Bays suck.))
2) It constrains the road network into funnels and sharply limits the space that can be given over to roads leading to terrible traffic.  If there's exactly one road leading from Point A to Point B, I have no choice but to grin and bear it, and if all the roads are 2 lanes tops (where they ought to be 3 lanes minimum with 4-7 lane highways).  Which means that I have a 4-mile commute that can take up to an hour.

And they do pay more.  Chicago was offering 45K-55K compared to Seattle's 90K (or SF's 72K.  (which I took.  Lulz)).  They just don't pay enough more to justify the expense.  Hence why all the "I did everything right and my finances suck" people are from the coasts.  When a house is $70K, I can pick it up with petty change on a 10-year mortgage.  When a house is starting at a million, that's half my lifetime earnings post-tax.

/Also, in SF, there need to be 2 US 101's.  1 101 where people can back up and get onto the bridges across the Bay, and 1 101 where people heading up to the city can just drive over the clusterfark that is the bridge onramps.  Because (other than Google traffic down in Mountain View), that's the big backup for 101.
//Either that or they need to make it easier to get to 280.
2013-03-06 06:20:00 PM
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Torrance, or San Pedro.

Although I don't know where City of Industry is.  Sounds like something east of the 405, where I dare not venture.  On a map, anything east of the 405 might as well say "Thar be dragons", except for Disneyland.
2013-03-06 06:13:25 PM
1 votes:

Rufus Lee King: It's a shame about crime rates. What causes rising crime rates, do you suppose?


Poverty, social inequality, racism, sexism, homophobia, unjust laws, etc.

But you were implying immigrants right?
2013-03-06 06:05:46 PM
1 votes:
I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month
2013-03-06 06:04:30 PM
1 votes:
kiwimoogle84 Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Zabadu But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO



This.  Lived in Sacto for a few years. The weird combo of Asian/black/hispanic gang areas, white redneck trash, boring govt town and the fact the King just left.  Yeah, no thanks.
2013-03-06 05:57:36 PM
1 votes:

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


That's a pretty big exaggeration. Sacramento isn't an hour away from SF or Tahoe. More like 3 hours. 5 if you hit the daily traffic on 80. It's the definition of "bedroom community" and while the housing is nice and cheap (relatively), unless you got 3 kids tying up your time and never had a hope of having a social life, it's really not that exciting of a place to be.
2013-03-06 05:54:00 PM
1 votes:
in before all the posters from flyover land claim you should move to the middle of the country and get a four bedroom house with a two car garage and a nice big yard for around $1,200 a month.
2013-03-06 05:53:58 PM
1 votes:
they want you to move out of your own accord... eviction is a lengthy and expensive process. these people sound like bad tenants.

Rosas said things got bad a year and a half ago when they got their new landlords -- attorney Ali Golchin and his wife, Mahshid Hamidi, a doctor of family medicine.
In a just-filed lawsuit, Rosas said his landlords have let the apartment become uninhabitable, and when Rosas started withholding rent, he said he got a text from Golchin that read, "It is in your best interest not (to) get the courts or sheriff involved. They sometimes call immigration."

Golchin added, "I've made $10,000 in repairs. I've asked them to move out so we could make more repairs and they refused."


so, 1200 per month for a year and a half (18 months)... but they have been squatting withholding rent for at least some of that time... so lets say they actually paid 15 months rent. 15*1200=18000 in rent paid. less the 10k in repairs = 8000 in 18 months of "profit" but the property has become unintabitable...

So Mr. Rosas, you allowed the place where you and your mother live to become uninhabitable in just a year and a half?

no sympathy for bad tenants.
2013-03-06 05:53:22 PM
1 votes:

Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass


Excuse me, fake cop.  Where IN California.  Others understood.
2013-03-06 05:52:23 PM
1 votes:
Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.



Culver City, El Segundo?
2013-03-06 05:50:25 PM
1 votes:

spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.


To be fair, in California, once the taxes finish eating you alive, you have to make $36K just to make rent on a terribad 1 BR in a sketchy area.

/My boss spends more in rent than I take home in a year.
//But that's okay, because if I rented my own place, I'd spend half my pay on rent.
2013-03-06 05:49:03 PM
1 votes:

Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.


Both parties are minorities
2013-03-06 05:45:52 PM
1 votes:
To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.
2013-03-06 05:45:21 PM
1 votes:
I'm paying 382 for a studio, utilities included.

/in wI
2013-03-06 05:42:45 PM
1 votes:
In NY, 1250 will get you one of the mouse holes.
2013-03-06 05:42:29 PM
1 votes:

gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space


I have a theory that the amount of crap people are expected to put up with to live someplace desirable makes it undesirable.
2013-03-06 05:41:47 PM
1 votes:

lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.


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"Go on. Take it."
2013-03-06 05:41:05 PM
1 votes:
In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space
2013-03-06 05:32:40 PM
1 votes:
Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".
2013-03-06 05:31:57 PM
1 votes:
in DC 1,200 a month will get you a one bedroom and a roommate.
2013-03-06 05:29:33 PM
1 votes:
Sounds just like the housing situation here in Connecticut. I'm about to buy a house, and will be paying about $100 a month less on my mortgage than some friends of mine who rent a crappy apartment, and that's even factoring in utilities. Unless you're on Section 8, renting around here is both a waste and a joke.
2013-03-06 05:20:47 PM
1 votes:

blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?


Couple means "two. "
2013-03-06 05:16:46 PM
1 votes:

timujin: Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.

Moving, though, to the west side into a 1-bed with a loft, a 1-car garage and a small (15x20) yard.  It'll be $1600, but it's 4 miles from the beach and, more importantly, about 2.3 miles from my favorite bar.


Gotta love priorities.
2013-03-06 05:09:45 PM
1 votes:
Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.

Moving, though, to the west side into a 1-bed with a loft, a 1-car garage and a small (15x20) yard.  It'll be $1600, but it's 4 miles from the beach and, more importantly, about 2.3 miles from my favorite bar.
2013-03-06 05:08:10 PM
1 votes:
Assholes
 
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