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2013-03-06 05:08:10 PM  
Assholes
 
2013-03-06 05:09:45 PM  
Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.

Moving, though, to the west side into a 1-bed with a loft, a 1-car garage and a small (15x20) yard.  It'll be $1600, but it's 4 miles from the beach and, more importantly, about 2.3 miles from my favorite bar.
 
2013-03-06 05:15:04 PM  
A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.



Ummm, what?
 
2013-03-06 05:16:46 PM  

timujin: Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.

Moving, though, to the west side into a 1-bed with a loft, a 1-car garage and a small (15x20) yard.  It'll be $1600, but it's 4 miles from the beach and, more importantly, about 2.3 miles from my favorite bar.


Gotta love priorities.
 
2013-03-06 05:16:52 PM  

blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?


*re-reads article*

Well, shiat.  Nevermind

/reading is hard
 
2013-03-06 05:20:47 PM  

blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?


Couple means "two. "
 
2013-03-06 05:23:58 PM  
So they're heading home then?
 
2013-03-06 05:26:57 PM  

blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?


So they have basements in California.  Not really surprised.
 
2013-03-06 05:29:33 PM  
Sounds just like the housing situation here in Connecticut. I'm about to buy a house, and will be paying about $100 a month less on my mortgage than some friends of mine who rent a crappy apartment, and that's even factoring in utilities. Unless you're on Section 8, renting around here is both a waste and a joke.
 
2013-03-06 05:31:57 PM  
in DC 1,200 a month will get you a one bedroom and a roommate.
 
2013-03-06 05:31:59 PM  
you rent to people, you take care of their shiat. You don't care about their immigration status. You upheld your end of the bargain as long as they're upholding their end.
 
2013-03-06 05:32:40 PM  
Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".
 
2013-03-06 05:32:52 PM  

blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?


read it again...
 
2013-03-06 05:34:03 PM  
THIS, is diversity:


The 2010 United States Census reported that Oceanside had a population of 167,086. The population density was 3,961.8 people per square mile (1,529.7/km²). The racial makeup of Oceanside was 109,020 (65.2%) White, 7,873 (4.7%) African American, 1,385 (0.8%) Native American, 11,081 (6.6%) Asian (3.4% Filipino, 0.7% Japanese, 0.7% Vietnamese, 0.6% Chinese, 0.4% Korean, 0.2% Indian), 2,144 (1.3%) Pacific Islander, 25,886 (15.5%) from other races, and 9,697 (5.8%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 59,947 persons (35.9%). Among the Hispanic population, 31.3% Mexican, 1.0% Puerto Rican, and 0.4% Salvadoran.
 
2013-03-06 05:34:32 PM  
So...move?
 
2013-03-06 05:34:33 PM  
Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site
 
2013-03-06 05:35:00 PM  

Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.


trolling from the left. Novel approach
 
2013-03-06 05:37:47 PM  

skullkrusher: blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?

read it again...


See my post 2 down from the original.
 
2013-03-06 05:38:01 PM  
But enough about who I rent my private yacht to...
 
2013-03-06 05:38:02 PM  

Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.


What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.
 
2013-03-06 05:39:00 PM  
Look at the way we treat each other just to get a few more debt notes in out money bag.
 
2013-03-06 05:40:10 PM  
So, are they illegals or not?
 
2013-03-06 05:41:05 PM  
In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space
 
2013-03-06 05:41:18 PM  
in OUR money bag.
 
2013-03-06 05:41:47 PM  

lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.


2.bp.blogspot.com

"Go on. Take it."
 
2013-03-06 05:41:57 PM  
Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.
 
2013-03-06 05:42:29 PM  

gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space


I have a theory that the amount of crap people are expected to put up with to live someplace desirable makes it undesirable.
 
2013-03-06 05:42:45 PM  
In NY, 1250 will get you one of the mouse holes.
 
2013-03-06 05:44:14 PM  
Okay, maybe its the (evil) lawyer side of me talking, but I kind of can see where the LL is coming from.

Yeah, it was probably a threat.  But OTOH, I could sort of see the LL actually honestly saying:  look you need to pay the rent or figure out someway we can come to a mutual arrangement.  If you involve the courts, your immigration status could come up and I know that's what you want to avoid.

The meaning or motive could be better ascertained from the way the LL said it, but unfortunately for him, its in a phone text, so there is no tone of voice.
 
2013-03-06 05:44:58 PM  
Where's the POS tag for this slum lord?  Slum lords are as akin to the rodents they let infest their buildings.
 
2013-03-06 05:45:11 PM  

Nogrhi: blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?

So they have basements in California.  Not really surprised.


They do not. That's a dirty lie.
 
2013-03-06 05:45:21 PM  

too_amuzed: In NY, 1250 will get you one of the mouse holes.


s.wsj.net
 
2013-03-06 05:45:21 PM  
I'm paying 382 for a studio, utilities included.

/in wI
 
2013-03-06 05:45:27 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.


The jack-hole landlord is a lawyer.  I'm sure if he threatened them with "deportation", he would claim the agreement, if it is worth the paper it is written on,  to be null.
 
2013-03-06 05:45:31 PM  

gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space


Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?
 
2013-03-06 05:45:41 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


CBSB:

I used to have a brother who was a radar genius. Top secret clearance (probably above that). Decades ago, he lived in Arizona and every so often he would get long-term contract offers from California firms. He never took them up but when he adopted two kids, he got offers that would "make sure he and his family were well taken care of out here in California". The pay was substantially higher than anything he got in Arizona. So he flies out to look the place over.

Those long-term generous offers would have kept him and his family in rags due to cost of living. Farking bastards were going to lock him in to wage slavery with two kids and wife.

/I thought we only did that to foreign workers

/End of Cool Bro Story Bro.
/He sat in an SR-71. Waited 25 years to tell us. Then died.
 
2013-03-06 05:45:52 PM  
To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.
 
2013-03-06 05:46:09 PM  

blatz514: skullkrusher: blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?

read it again...

See my post 2 down from the original.


yeah, well, reading the thread is hard ;)
 
2013-03-06 05:46:41 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


The Valley.
 
2013-03-06 05:47:13 PM  
Let's be honest here.  If your immigration status is not of the legal persuasion, then people have you by the short and curlies.  You will work for less, (illegally), and rent for more. (illegally).
 
2013-03-06 05:47:27 PM  
In before trolls blame the condition of the house on the tenants.
 
2013-03-06 05:47:35 PM  

lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.


I wasn't sure if I should mention the 0% interest loans, free health care, college and clothing but what they heck, as long as we're sharing.
 
2013-03-06 05:47:47 PM  
In a just-filed lawsuit, Rosas said his landlords have let the apartment become uninhabitable, and when Rosas started withholding rent, he said he got a text from Golchin that read, "It is in your best interest not (to) get the courts or sheriff involved. They sometimes call immigration."
"They're taking advantage of my client's immigration status to rent them a piece of filth," said Rosas' attorney Dan Gilleon.
On the phone, Golchin told Team 10 the text was "not a threat. I was helping them out by giving them information. The idea of a threat is appalling."


What a sleazy piece of shiat.

Anyways, I live in a great neighborhood in San Diego in a 2br house with a washer/dryer and a garage and pay $1650.  Who the fark wants to live in Oceanside?
 
2013-03-06 05:48:05 PM  

lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.


Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe
 
2013-03-06 05:48:09 PM  

spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.


Really?  Where?
 
2013-03-06 05:49:03 PM  

Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.


Both parties are minorities
 
2013-03-06 05:49:08 PM  

KrispyKritter: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

I wasn't sure if I should mention the 0% interest loans, free health care, college and clothing but what they heck, as long as we're sharing.


As long as you don't bring up getting a new supermodel girlfriend who's into anal every month, they shouldn't get too mad.
 
2013-03-06 05:49:11 PM  
sounds about right. In the Bay Area, more like $1500.
 
2013-03-06 05:49:31 PM  

zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?


Santa Barbara.  The company I used to work for there paid their secretaries $36k/year and they didn't require a college degree or anything.
 
2013-03-06 05:49:37 PM  
MaxxLarge:

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


C-O-M-P-T-O-N and the city they call Long Beach.

/no idea, just wanted drop some Dre
 
2013-03-06 05:49:56 PM  

zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?


In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass
 
2013-03-06 05:50:01 PM  

bunner: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

I have a theory that the amount of crap people are expected to put up with to live someplace desirable makes it undesirable.


Case in point... Leaving Florida, been her 12 years after escaping the cold a$$ north.  Heading back home in 2 years after I finish this contract.  Florida is fun,
but toooo farkin weird. Out grew my willingness to put up with B.S. for a hot girl with tight a$$ in a bikini. Just isn't worth it anymore.
 
2013-03-06 05:50:02 PM  
Pay your farkng bill or get out... That simple... You have been asked to move out so repairs can be made and refused.... Quit biatching and move to a better option (if there is one, your stupid ass is staying put for a reason)

/GO HOME, I'm sure it's better there....
 
2013-03-06 05:50:25 PM  

spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.


To be fair, in California, once the taxes finish eating you alive, you have to make $36K just to make rent on a terribad 1 BR in a sketchy area.

/My boss spends more in rent than I take home in a year.
//But that's okay, because if I rented my own place, I'd spend half my pay on rent.
 
2013-03-06 05:50:28 PM  

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO
 
2013-03-06 05:50:55 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBCbMPWbMx4

Obligatory.

Video.

one NSFW word.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:07 PM  
THIS, is diversity:


The 2010 United States Census reported that Oceanside had a population of 167,086. The population density was 3,961.8 people per square mile (1,529.7/km²). The racial makeup of Oceanside was 109,020 (65.2%) White, 7,873 (4.7%) African American, 1,385 (0.8%) Native American, 11,081 (6.6%) Asian (3.4% Filipino, 0.7% Japanese, 0.7% Vietnamese, 0.6% Chinese, 0.4% Korean, 0.2% Indian), 2,144 (1.3%) Pacific Islander, 25,886 (15.5%) from other races, and 9,697 (5.8%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 59,947 persons (35.9%). Among the Hispanic population, 31.3% Mexican, 1.0% Puerto Rican, and 0.4% Salvadoran.



But what percentage of them were Marines?
Probably about 40-60%.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:23 PM  

spiderpaz: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

Santa Barbara.  The company I used to work for there paid their secretaries $36k/year and they didn't require a college degree or anything.


Ah, SOUTHERN California.
Not in Northern California (except Bay Area) . Everywhere else is minimum.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:33 PM  

zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?


In a chair. At a desk.  But that's not really important right now.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:44 PM  
I moved out to a decent neighbourhood in Cali.  For $1200 we got a nice, clean, house in a great neighbourhood right nearby a university and a decent bit of industry and commercial activity.  It's spacey (the kitchen is a bit small but that's because we're a bit big), doesn't have problems, is bug-free, and there's very little crime in the area.

How about instead of buying shiatty apartments you get off your ass and find a decent place to live.
 
2013-03-06 05:52:23 PM  
Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.



Culver City, El Segundo?
 
2013-03-06 05:52:47 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.


In most states the landlord wil evict you 15 days after the rent is not paid. The Sheriff's Dept. will be happy to do the eviction.

Placing your money in escrow is meaningless unless you get a court order FIRST mandating this arrangment to force the landlord to repair the apartment to get access to the rent held in escrow.  This will probably cost you many months rent in legal fees to obtain.
 
2013-03-06 05:52:50 PM  
FTA : Golchin added, "I've made $10,000 in repairs. I've asked them to move out so we could make more repairs and they refused."

You dont have to ask. Just give them 30 days notice prior to the lease expiring that you want them out. If they're still around, file a UD and let the courts handle it.

Better yet, offer them a couple of hundred cash on handing over the unit... way cheaper than filing and serving.

That said, I doubt the place was a shiat hole when they moved in.

Your landlord isnt your cleaning lady.
 
2013-03-06 05:53:22 PM  

Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass


Excuse me, fake cop.  Where IN California.  Others understood.
 
2013-03-06 05:53:27 PM  

cloud_van_dame: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.


Culver City, El Segundo?


if you see my wallet, lemme know?
 
2013-03-06 05:53:39 PM  

spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?


in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.
 
2013-03-06 05:53:58 PM  
they want you to move out of your own accord... eviction is a lengthy and expensive process. these people sound like bad tenants.

Rosas said things got bad a year and a half ago when they got their new landlords -- attorney Ali Golchin and his wife, Mahshid Hamidi, a doctor of family medicine.
In a just-filed lawsuit, Rosas said his landlords have let the apartment become uninhabitable, and when Rosas started withholding rent, he said he got a text from Golchin that read, "It is in your best interest not (to) get the courts or sheriff involved. They sometimes call immigration."

Golchin added, "I've made $10,000 in repairs. I've asked them to move out so we could make more repairs and they refused."


so, 1200 per month for a year and a half (18 months)... but they have been squatting withholding rent for at least some of that time... so lets say they actually paid 15 months rent. 15*1200=18000 in rent paid. less the 10k in repairs = 8000 in 18 months of "profit" but the property has become unintabitable...

So Mr. Rosas, you allowed the place where you and your mother live to become uninhabitable in just a year and a half?

no sympathy for bad tenants.
 
2013-03-06 05:54:00 PM  
in before all the posters from flyover land claim you should move to the middle of the country and get a four bedroom house with a two car garage and a nice big yard for around $1,200 a month.
 
2013-03-06 05:54:11 PM  

Marine1: "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".


Said no one ever.
 
2013-03-06 05:55:22 PM  

skullkrusher: cloud_van_dame:

Culver City, El Segundo?

if you see my wallet, lemme know?


*shakes fist*

Sounds like quite the scenario
 
2013-03-06 05:55:38 PM  
MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site



Damn, dude.  Either you or your spouse is going to be spending a fair amount of time on the LA freeways.

Better spring for some satellite radio.  Maybe trade in the car for a Volt or Prius.
 
2013-03-06 05:55:38 PM  
How much is the LL charging the mice?
 
2013-03-06 05:56:57 PM  

dumbobruni: spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?

in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.


I lived on the UWS and we had a decent sized 1 BR with a terrace in a doorman building for ~$2800 . That's was pretty much prevailing market price when we lived there. You want to live on CPW and 78th St, you're gonna pay a shiatload. It's not difficult to find more affordable, great places
 
2013-03-06 05:56:58 PM  
Well I know I ALWAYS believe the tenants because they're usually so upstanding and respectful of other people's property. And I ESPECIALLY believe illegals.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:05 PM  

zabadu: kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO


I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:09 PM  

cman: Assholes


Agreed, they should be here legally.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:33 PM  

busy chillin': skullkrusher: cloud_van_dame:

Culver City, El Segundo?

if you see my wallet, lemme know?

*shakes fist*

Sounds like quite the scenario


here we go...

/yo
 
2013-03-06 05:57:36 PM  

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


That's a pretty big exaggeration. Sacramento isn't an hour away from SF or Tahoe. More like 3 hours. 5 if you hit the daily traffic on 80. It's the definition of "bedroom community" and while the housing is nice and cheap (relatively), unless you got 3 kids tying up your time and never had a hope of having a social life, it's really not that exciting of a place to be.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:57 PM  
Best SoCal apartment I ever had was illegal.
 
2013-03-06 05:59:52 PM  

enik: Well I know I ALWAYS believe the tenants because they're usually so upstanding and respectful of other people's property. And I ESPECIALLY believe illegals.


how can I 'splain it? I'll take you frame by frame it

/90s in the hizzy
 
2013-03-06 06:00:03 PM  

skullkrusher: dumbobruni: spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?

in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.

I lived on the UWS and we had a decent sized 1 BR with a terrace in a doorman building for ~$2800 . That's was pretty much prevailing market price when we lived there. You want to live on CPW and 78th St, you're gonna pay a shiatload. It's not difficult to find more affordable, great places


compared to the rents i'm seeing in Cobble Hill these days....that seems like a great deal.

/love and equally hate NYC
 
2013-03-06 06:01:36 PM  

kiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.



Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?
 
2013-03-06 06:02:04 PM  

dumbobruni: skullkrusher: dumbobruni: spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?

in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.

I lived on the UWS and we had a decent sized 1 BR with a terrace in a doorman building for ~$2800 . That's was pretty much prevailing market price when we lived there. You want to live on CPW and 78th St, you're gonna pay a shiatload. It's not difficult to find more affordable, great places

compared to the rents i'm seeing in Cobble Hill these days....that seems like a great deal.

/love and equally hate NYC


yeah we locked in for 2 years right at the height of the crash. I am sure it's gone up since then. Had to give up the terrace and the doorman for an extra bedroom and bathroom for the bambino
 
2013-03-06 06:03:09 PM  

rkiller1: cman: Assholes

Agreed, they should be here legally.


Funny, like a clown
 
2013-03-06 06:04:23 PM  
Good, you have no legal right to be here anyway. You snuck in, then demand full rights as if they were owed to you. I do hope they grab your ass up and throw you across the border. You and your raghead ilk.

/amidoingitrite?
 
2013-03-06 06:04:30 PM  
kiwimoogle84 Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Zabadu But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO



This.  Lived in Sacto for a few years. The weird combo of Asian/black/hispanic gang areas, white redneck trash, boring govt town and the fact the King just left.  Yeah, no thanks.
 
2013-03-06 06:05:17 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Lakewood/Pico Rivera/Downey would work.  I lived in Long Beach for years (next to Lakewood), it's a pretty good hub, all the LA freeways radiate out of there because of the port.
 
2013-03-06 06:05:46 PM  
I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month
 
2013-03-06 06:06:18 PM  
Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?
 
2013-03-06 06:06:27 PM  

Broktun: So, are they illegals or not?


/yes, the reporter said the scumbag lawyer and his wife were taking advantage of them due to their citizenship status. Which means, illegal.
 
2013-03-06 06:06:48 PM  

Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month


/in Utah

location, location, location
 
2013-03-06 06:07:13 PM  
I paid $600 a month in the bay area for 1/2 of a small bedroom in a one story house with eight other people living in it. Oh, and black mold. Lots of it. I found out the hard way that if you only see your land lord once a year, they're probably a slum lord.

/never again.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:08 PM  

Marine1: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 350x244]

"Go on. Take it."


I love that skit so farking much...

/Along with 'Magic shoes'
 
2013-03-06 06:08:23 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


/It comes down to where you live. Here in illinois, out in the country, you buy a pack of smokes for 3 bucks and some change. In NY, its like 10 or more usd.  It depends on where you are.  You wanna live in Cali? You're going to pay through the nose.  Even for a shiathole place like in tfa.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:32 PM  

jim32rr: rkiller1: cman: Assholes

Agreed, they should be here legally.

Funny, like a clown


Glad I amooze you.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:46 PM  

kiwimoogle84: zabadu: kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.


I beg to differ.

Paid less in rent in LA.
Less in utilities
Made more money at job
Lots of things to do
Downtown Sac is for hipsters and gangs
Try getting lox in Sacramento (that isn't in a package)
"What's a Jewish deli?"
Allergic to trees (they say if you live here more than 15 years, you will develop allergies to trees. I have)
Sacramento sucks.
 
2013-03-06 06:09:24 PM  

SirEattonHogg: kiwimoogle84 Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Zabadu But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO


This.  Lived in Sacto for a few years. The weird combo of Asian/black/hispanic gang areas, white redneck trash, boring govt town and the fact the King just left.  Yeah, no thanks.


There you go.
 
2013-03-06 06:09:48 PM  

gblive: Sin_City_Superhero: Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.

In most states the landlord wil evict you 15 days after the rent is not paid. The Sheriff's Dept. will be happy to do the eviction.


I am not a lawyer, so take this with a grain of salt, but as I understand it, by placing the rent in an escrow account, you have paid the rent. By placing the money in escrow, you are demonstrating "good faith". You paid what you owe. You just paid it to a third party who won't release the funds until the property is "habitable" as defined by local ordinance.
 
2013-03-06 06:10:53 PM  

cloud_van_dame: kiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.


Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?


No, and your beautiful Victorian is a fire trap. We lose at least two a year to fire.  And you have bars on your windows, park on the street and have your stereo stolen.

But you can walk to get a cup of coffee.  Big deal.
 
2013-03-06 06:11:34 PM  
cloud_van_damekiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.


Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?


Not when I was there in the late 90's.  Lived right next to Land Park.  Got to hear the sheriff ghetto bird doing runs over lovely Oak Park and noise of gunfire.   For a city the size of Sacramento, the crime news in the Sacramento Bee was pretty horrific.

To be fair, that was over a decade ago.  Maybe things are better?
 
2013-03-06 06:12:01 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


The weather.
 
2013-03-06 06:12:20 PM  
i4.ytimg.com
 
2013-03-06 06:13:21 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

/It comes down to where you live. Here in illinois, out in the country, you buy a pack of smokes for 3 bucks and some change. In NY, its like 10 or more usd.  It depends on where you are.  You wanna live in Cali? You're going to pay through the nose.  Even for a shiathole place like in tfa.


That answered nothing. I'm asking why it's like that. About the only thing Cali has going for it is that it's warm year round and that's about it. New York doesn't have a single farking thing good about it that I can think of, yet it's expensive as fark. So I ask again, why?
 
2013-03-06 06:13:25 PM  

Rufus Lee King: It's a shame about crime rates. What causes rising crime rates, do you suppose?


Poverty, social inequality, racism, sexism, homophobia, unjust laws, etc.

But you were implying immigrants right?
 
2013-03-06 06:13:33 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).
 
2013-03-06 06:14:53 PM  
It worked before you broke it.
 
2013-03-06 06:15:28 PM  

Lunchlady: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).


Hey homie.  I lived in Studio City and can vouch for your story.

Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.
 
2013-03-06 06:15:31 PM  

zabadu: Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

The weather.


Ok, but I don't have to worry about earthquakes in buttfark Wisconsin. And the weather in New York isn't much different than Wisconsin, and it's less crowded and has less pollution. So again I ask what gives?
 
2013-03-06 06:16:25 PM  
The guy speaks really good English to be a illegal
 
2013-03-06 06:16:26 PM  

skullkrusher: Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month

/in Utah

location, location, location


If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?
Worst... city... ever.
Actually I reserve that eternally for Phoenix but LA isn't far behind.
 
2013-03-06 06:17:35 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: The guy speaks really good English to be a illegal


It's probably a given that he didn't go to any California schools then.
 
2013-03-06 06:17:56 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Fullerton is a nice bedroom community about halfway between in your price rance. Orange and Anaheim have very nice and more marginal areas. Brea is also nice. I wouldn't go north of there. You have lots of choices in those areas I mentioned while staying on the freeway corridor.
 
2013-03-06 06:18:16 PM  
Escaped California and 1400 USD rent for a 1 bedroom apt in Woodland Hills.

/getting a kick etc.
 
2013-03-06 06:19:37 PM  
Sounds like Fort McMurray, AB.  But without the sunny skies, beaches and bikinis.
 
2013-03-06 06:20:00 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Torrance, or San Pedro.

Although I don't know where City of Industry is.  Sounds like something east of the 405, where I dare not venture.  On a map, anything east of the 405 might as well say "Thar be dragons", except for Disneyland.
 
2013-03-06 06:20:22 PM  

drayno76: Case in point... Leaving Florida, been her 12 years after escaping the cold a$$ north. Heading back home in 2 years after I finish this contract. Florida is fun,
but toooo farkin weird. Out grew my willingness to put up with B.S. for a hot girl with tight a$$ in a bikini. Just isn't worth it anymore.


My guess is the a44 outgrew the bikini.
 
2013-03-06 06:20:23 PM  

Negligible: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month

/in Utah

location, location, location

If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?
Worst... city... ever.
Actually I reserve that eternally for Phoenix but LA isn't far behind.


I agree. Several million people disagree though
 
2013-03-06 06:20:35 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: zabadu: Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

The weather.

Ok, but I don't have to worry about earthquakes in buttfark Wisconsin. And the weather in New York isn't much different than Wisconsin, and it's less crowded and has less pollution. So again I ask what gives?


Earthquakes do not happen in all of California, and they only happen occasionally.  Would not live in a place I have to dig out from snow, or be worried about tornadoes or hurricanes.

New York is full of assholes, maybe that's the reason.
 
2013-03-06 06:21:29 PM  
The valley is waaaay out of your way unless you want to spend hours a day on the freeway. Downey/Lakewood have nice areas but are more out of your way.
 
2013-03-06 06:21:45 PM  
Threads like this are always just teeming with derp.  Who cares where you live and what you pay?  The article is about a dick landlord, not how awesome/terrible it is where you live/used to live.
 
2013-03-06 06:21:50 PM  
Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..
 
2013-03-06 06:22:18 PM  
Torrance, San Pedro and El Segundo are shiatholes.
 
2013-03-06 06:22:34 PM  
MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site



Lakewood/Pico Rivera/Downey would work.  I lived in Long Beach for years (next to Lakewood), it's a pretty good hub, all the LA freeways radiate out of there because of the port.

I've also lived in Long Beach.  That's not a bad in-between mark beween City of Industry and Redondo.   And yeah, those highways are great for Long Beach folks.  Property values aren't as crazy as other parts of LA county, IMHO.  And, depending on your preference for social life/shopping, you can either do sleepy downtown Long Beach, LA, or if you are more suburban in tastes - Orange County (Costa Mesa, Irvine, etc).
 
2013-03-06 06:22:57 PM  

Solid State Vittles: Threads like this are always just teeming with derp.  Who cares where you live and what you pay?  The article is about a dick landlord, not how awesome/terrible it is where you live/used to live.


Actually, the article is about dick tenants.
 
2013-03-06 06:23:49 PM  

skullkrusher: Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month

/in Utah

location, location, location


Even with the wacky drinking laws here, I'd rather live in Utah than most parts of California. WAY too many goddamned people. Too many helicopters. Too many sirens at night. Too many gunshots. Too much traffic.

/It's why I left Phoenix
 
2013-03-06 06:23:51 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


I hear Fort Ord is real nice. The streets are so empty blind people are allowed to drive there.

www.tv-reviewed.com
 
2013-03-06 06:25:59 PM  

Purelilac: Torrance, San Pedro and El Segundo are shiatholes.


True that.
Long Beach too.
 
2013-03-06 06:26:14 PM  

Negligible: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month

/in Utah

location, location, location

If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?

 

Two reasons.   This, and this.
 
2013-03-06 06:26:53 PM  

zabadu: kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO


I used to live in SF.

/never moving back
//too expensive
///it's nice to be able to go outside and not have people all around me at all times
 
2013-03-06 06:27:14 PM  

zabadu: Earthquakes do not happen in all of California, and they only happen occasionally. Would not live in a place I have to dig out from snow, or be worried about tornadoes or hurricanes.


LA Town is falling down,
While the ground moves around.
We won't let it get us down,
We're Californians.

/obscure?
 
2013-03-06 06:27:45 PM  
Is this news somehow?

I rent a 3 bedroom house in San Jose. Across the street there is a trailer park with razor wire. Down the road about 1/4 mile is where all the migrant workers mill around waiting for jobs, all day, every day. Our backyard is the size of a postage stamp. Rent is $2800/month.

This is why $125K/yr is a salary that nearly qualifies for low-income assistance.

Everyone wants to live out here, so one pays a premium.
 
2013-03-06 06:27:56 PM  
I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month



Hot Flats, Texas?

If you live someplace nice, I'm jealous.
 
2013-03-06 06:28:42 PM  

zabadu: Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.


Just avoid the Slauson Cutoff...
 
2013-03-06 06:29:21 PM  
zabadu: Torrance, San Pedro and El Segundo are shiatholes.

True that.

Long Beach too.



Oh come on. There are nice parts of Long Beach.  Well, a third of it anyways.
 
2013-03-06 06:30:03 PM  

timujin: Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.


Meanwhile, I pay $750/mo on my mortgage for a 2400 sq ft house.

/wisconsin
 
2013-03-06 06:30:11 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


In California, it's the mountains and the water.  This does 2 things.

1) It sharply limits the amount of available space.  (The Bay area is REALLY terrible about this.  You're either in the valley or looking at a 3-hour one-way commute over a couple mountain ranges (or possibly both because the entire East and South Bays suck.))
2) It constrains the road network into funnels and sharply limits the space that can be given over to roads leading to terrible traffic.  If there's exactly one road leading from Point A to Point B, I have no choice but to grin and bear it, and if all the roads are 2 lanes tops (where they ought to be 3 lanes minimum with 4-7 lane highways).  Which means that I have a 4-mile commute that can take up to an hour.

And they do pay more.  Chicago was offering 45K-55K compared to Seattle's 90K (or SF's 72K.  (which I took.  Lulz)).  They just don't pay enough more to justify the expense.  Hence why all the "I did everything right and my finances suck" people are from the coasts.  When a house is $70K, I can pick it up with petty change on a 10-year mortgage.  When a house is starting at a million, that's half my lifetime earnings post-tax.

/Also, in SF, there need to be 2 US 101's.  1 101 where people can back up and get onto the bridges across the Bay, and 1 101 where people heading up to the city can just drive over the clusterfark that is the bridge onramps.  Because (other than Google traffic down in Mountain View), that's the big backup for 101.
//Either that or they need to make it easier to get to 280.
 
2013-03-06 06:31:18 PM  
FTFA: Rosas said things got bad a year and a half ago when they got their new landlords -- attorney Ali Golchin and his wife, Mahshid Hamidi, a doctor of family medicine.

I'd be careful about who's ratting out who into Immigration.
 
2013-03-06 06:31:52 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I hear Fort Ord is real nice. The streets are so empty blind people are allowed to drive there.


What is going on there?

/I can see Fort Ord from my office window.
 
2013-03-06 06:32:00 PM  
Scary Shacks

The land underneath the shack is worth money. The shack is not.
 
2013-03-06 06:32:39 PM  

que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..


Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.
 
2013-03-06 06:33:52 PM  
Oh goodie! Another hate-on for where you live.

NYC/LA/CHI sux!
Flyover country sux!

Different strokes for different folks.

/personally, I have no desire to live in NYC or Cal.
//but that's just me
 
2013-03-06 06:34:15 PM  
meyerkev:

And I didn't finish my thought.  And since it takes forever to get anywhere, it's hard to spread out and people are willing to pay more to live closer to work.  A 10 mile commute is not bad if it's a 15 minute commute.  That same 10 miles, turned into an hour and a half, is a bit of a dealbreaker.

/Looking at you Boston.  13 mile commute on a single line of the T was a hour and 20 minutes.
//Getting home could take over 2 hours.
 
2013-03-06 06:35:18 PM  

ISO15693: Everyone wants to live out here, so one pays a premium.


No, many of us don't.
 
2013-03-06 06:35:42 PM  

busy chillin': MaxxLarge:

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

C-O-M-P-T-O-N and the city they call Long Beach.

/no idea, just wanted drop some Dre


puttin that shiat together
 
2013-03-06 06:36:57 PM  

zabadu: Honest to God, the Valley.


It gets up to 110F in the summer in the Valley. Not as humid as Texas though.
 
2013-03-06 06:37:54 PM  

eggrolls: I'd be careful about who's ratting out who into Immigration.


Tehrangeles.
 
2013-03-06 06:39:28 PM  
"clogged sinks, dysfunctional electrical outlets You mean plural, as in they have MORE than ONE?
Lucky devils-makes you wonder how the poor people live...

Seriously though; having lived in SoCal and NoCal most my life, what appears to be "high" rent elsewhere in the country is a common occurrence in California. They say New York is worse, but can't comment as I've never lived there-

/Moving back to OC Friday-spent the last 8 years doing time in Cleveland, Ohio. Fully expect the "sticker shock" upon my return- Fortunately, (historically) the (employment) wages were commensurate with the higher cost of living. I'll never afford retirement or home ownership there. THAT dream has withered and blew away like a fart in the wind-

/Pretty great place to be homeless though (comparatively speaking)..
 
2013-03-06 06:43:14 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.


The location of your jobs means that one of you will have to commute significantly further unless you want to live in South-Central Los Angeles (roughly defined as the area between the 405, the 5, and the 10 freeways, though there are pockets of good in there. I do not recommend living in your average municipality in that area if you have the means to live elsewhere, most of those neighborhoods have bars on the windows, or are just plain ghetto. You'll do fine in Redondo/Hermosa, but you might have sticker shock on the prices. Note, however, that I have never rented a home in this area, single apartments in this area are all over $1k a month. Also your commute to City of Industry will be long, basically nightmarish long depending on the time of day since you'll likely have to use more than 2 freeways to reduce the distance (there are no southwest-to-northeast freeways in that area).

There are some nice areas in Whittier/ La Mirada that might be in your price range, and while not rich, they're certainly not as bad as south-central. You likely won't find many bars on the windows there. Your wife will unfortunately have to commute a ways, but she can use the 105, which is almost a straight shot between work/home from that area.

You could just say f-it and move to orange county, but then both of you would have very long commutes.

You could move to Long Beach, there are nice areas in Long Beach, Lakewood, & Cerritos. Those areas are not OC. That area generally gets a nice ocean breeze, especially Long Beach proper. However, again, both of you would have fairly lengthy commutes depending on time of day. The good news with Lakewood & Cerritos is they contract out their police services to LA County Sheriff, which is the most professional police force in the state (and it shows when stacked up against LAPD).

You can likely find some places in and around Pasadena that are nice, however, your wifes commute to the beach cities then becomes a big deal.

I can't find a good solution because your jobs straddle the ghetto in a way that makes freeway use difficult, unless you want to live in Downtown Los Angeles or the ghetto. You can find pockets of non-bar-window neighborhoods in the large swath of Southern California known as South Central, but they are few and far between, and in this era of major municipal budget cuts, I wouldn't trust those neighborhoods to remain good bets.
 
2013-03-06 06:45:48 PM  

zabadu: Lunchlady: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).

Hey homie.  I lived in Studio City and can vouch for your story.

Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.


I used to live in Studio City to, you move out of town?
 
2013-03-06 06:47:04 PM  

Big Man On Campus: MaxxLarge: Serious question:


I should also mention... Add about 30 minutes to get between ANY freeway and Redondo Beach to your commute calculations.
 
2013-03-06 06:51:02 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..

Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.


NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't an issue here.  Lots of people have them, and lots of people have venison at Christmas.
- I fill up my gas tank about once every three weeks.  If I wanted to I could bicycle everywhere I needed to go, always.
- There is no smog, but there is occasionally the smell of a summer BBQ.  Otherwise it just smells like pine trees.
- There are no pet restrictions, but you can't really own cattle in town.  I think.  Horses are ok though, the Amish often ride them around town.
- We have a library, a swim park, a fitness center, a walking trail, snowmobile trails, a hockey rink, a golf course, tennis courts, and many other amenities that are well-maintained and there's never a crowd or a waiting list for any of them.  The swim park costs $3 though.
- When you first move to town it feels like everyone is watching you and is in your business - but it only feels that way.  They really don't care, they just want to say 'hi'.
- Houses can be had for as little as $50k.  Really expensive ones are $250k.
- There's plenty of work, especially if you have a degree, but still plenty even if you don't, as long as you work hard.
- Beer, cheese, sausage, and wild rice.
 
2013-03-06 06:51:35 PM  

pudding7: Negligible: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month

/in Utah

location, location, location

If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?
 

Two reasons.   This, and this.


Reason 1: You need to have seasons. I like seasons.
Reason 2: That is not LA. Too green. Too little smog. Too few people in the frame.
 
2013-03-06 06:51:44 PM  

Marine1: Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".


My sister and aunt live in Missouri and we visit them regularly.  You know what, we're always eager to return to California after those visits.

\Missouri is cheap for a reason
 
2013-03-06 06:52:11 PM  
Anyone ever think maybe it wasn't trashed and a rat infested place until they move in and let things get filthy?

Just asking questions.
 
2013-03-06 06:52:37 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


One word:  density

/recently moved to San Diego from Minneapolis
 
2013-03-06 06:53:33 PM  
Lunchlady: ...As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

Ah, He said Redondo/Hermosa, so he means PCH-Redondo. That's +30 minutes from the 405, easy. I think people forget just how far the beach cities in this area are from any freeway.
 
2013-03-06 06:54:16 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site



have several friends living up there including one who used to be a realtor.  Will send emails and ask...if I find anything out will post to this thread.
 
2013-03-06 06:57:25 PM  

spman: Sounds just like the housing situation here in Connecticut. I'm about to buy a house, and will be paying about $100 a month less on my mortgage than some friends of mine who rent a crappy apartment, and that's even factoring in utilities. Unless you're on Section 8, renting around here is both a waste and a joke.


Congrats, man.
Making good decisions and posting them on Fark is rare these days.
But no snark...I'm happy for ya.
 
2013-03-06 06:58:45 PM  

FizixJunkee: Marine1: Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".

My sister and aunt live in Missouri and we visit them regularly.  You know what, we're always eager to return to California after those visits.

\Missouri is cheap for a reason


california is gay
 
2013-03-06 07:00:43 PM  
We pay $760 a month for a 2 bedroom, one bath apartment (1015 sq feet) that's just a short walk to shopping, transit and is less than 10 minutes away from my son's workplace. Full-size washer & dryer in unit, seasonal pool, granite countertops. Brand new tiles were installed in the kitchen, dining room, bathroom and vanity before we moved in. And best of all, free expanded basic cable so now all we have to pay for is internet, plus we got a couple of bonuses when we signed a lease. A $200 gift card to the store of our choice and the Comcast representative the complex works through also gave us 6 months of HBO for free.

The rent is higher than in our previous place, but not having to pay for cable balances that out, plus our previous place had none of the amenities that our new place does.
 
2013-03-06 07:01:20 PM  

busy chillin': in before all the posters from flyover land claim you should move to the middle of the country and get a four bedroom house with a two car garage and a nice big yard for around $1,200 a month.


How about a 3 bedroom brick ranch with an acre of yard for under 600 including taxes and insurance with attached 2 car garage and an out building with fenced in yard.
 
2013-03-06 07:01:56 PM  
I had to to a meeting, but imagine my delight and surprise to come back to such massive amounts of incredibly useful knowledge.

Will be poring over this thread a lot. Genuine thanks to everyone for al the advice.
 
2013-03-06 07:02:49 PM  

Big Man On Campus: Lunchlady: ...As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

Ah, He said Redondo/Hermosa, so he means PCH-Redondo. That's +30 minutes from the 405, easy. I think people forget just how far the beach cities in this area are from any freeway.


Ahhh missed that.

I guess Long Beach is a pretty good option then, going on what others have said. Though if I had my pick I'd do Costa Mesa first.
 
2013-03-06 07:03:19 PM  

timujin: Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.

Moving, though, to the west side into a 1-bed with a loft, a 1-car garage and a small (15x20) yard.  It'll be $1600, but it's 4 miles from the beach and, more importantly, about 2.3 miles from my favorite bar.


You still work on lab? That's a hell of a commute. One of my devs lives in marina del ray and commutes to Pasadena every day. She's farking bug nuts.
 
2013-03-06 07:04:18 PM  
As someone who pays $750 a month for rent on a 2bd house in norcal, I'm getting a kick...

To be fair I do live in Rio Vista, of all places.
 
2013-03-06 07:08:49 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


I would recommend Norwalk, North Orange County (Fullerton, Brea etc), Whittier or Cypress.  Unfortunately there's little to no chance you'll get a place, in that rental window, that won't have a level of "older neighborhood = borderline sketch" and a handful of security bars on the windows.

Via con Dios.
 
2013-03-06 07:11:04 PM  
O-side, Where the Debris Meets the Sea
 
2013-03-06 07:11:09 PM  

busy chillin': in before all the posters from flyover land claim you should move to the middle of the country and get a four bedroom house with a two car garage and a nice big yard for around $1,200 a month.


Or $580/month in buttfark Indiana
 
2013-03-06 07:11:52 PM  

spman: Sounds just like the housing situation here in Connecticut. I'm about to buy a house, and will be paying about $100 a month less on my mortgage than some friends of mine who rent a crappy apartment, and that's even factoring in utilities. Unless you're on Section 8, renting around here is both a waste and a joke.


CT sucks, I moved to AZ and I LOVE IT!!!
 
xcv
2013-03-06 07:12:36 PM  

MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..

Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.

NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't ...


How is it if you're not-white?
 
2013-03-06 07:14:04 PM  
the only reason i live is to spite the people that saved me from suicide.
 
2013-03-06 07:18:34 PM  

Carth: DC


Came in here to say exactly this... so I'll just add "In NoVA, you get all that AND TRAFFIC!"
 
2013-03-06 07:19:51 PM  

Solid State Vittles: Marine1: "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".

Said no one ever.


... kU fan-like typing detected.

Seriously, though, there are pretty nice areas in Missouri. KC, North; Columbia; St. Louis County... places where housing is affordable (2-bedroom, 2-car garage: $180,000), crime is relatively low, commutes aren't horrible, and schools are good. Job growth isn't shabby, either. You could certainly do worse, save the er... spicy... variety of weather we have around here.
 
2013-03-06 07:22:28 PM  
There is a down side to being an illegal undocumented citizen? WTF is this world coming to?

*sarcasm*
 
2013-03-06 07:23:47 PM  
Malifinn NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't an issue here.  Lots of people have them, and lots of people have venison at Christmas.
- I fill up my gas tank about once every three weeks.  If I wanted to I could bicycle everywhere I needed to go, always.
- There is no smog, but there is occasionally the smell of a summer BBQ.  Otherwise it just smells like pine trees.
- There are no pet restrictions, but you can't really own cattle in town.  I think.  Horses are ok though, the Amish often ride them around town.
- We have a library, a swim park, a fitness center, a walking trail, snowmobile trails, a hockey rink, a golf course, tennis courts, and many other amenities that are well-maintained and there's never a crowd or a waiting list for any of them.  The swim park costs $3 though.
- When you first move to town it feels like everyone is watching you and is in your business - but it only feels that way.  They really don't care, they just want to say 'hi'.
- Houses can be had for as little as $50k.  Really expensive ones are $250k.
- There's plenty of work, especially if you have a degree, but still plenty even if you don't, as long as you work hard.
- Beer, cheese, sausage, and wild rice.


I live in LA, but lived in Wisconsin for many years and have family there.  It's a real low stress life up there.  Nobody works long hours and the idea of traffic (even in Milwaukee) is pretty laughable.  And lots of people can afford a second home (a lake house).  I visit and I understand the appeal.  Oh, and I like guns and venison.  LA has the former but not the later.

I do hate the weather though.  So, I will never move back.  And I like more cosmspolitan atmosphere and LA is always interesting - good or bad. I also really, really hate driving at 55 - 65 on your one frigging interstate highway (which mostly only has 4 lanes) because the hick state trooper will bust me if I go over that.

It's hard to compare really.  Obviously it just comes down to priorities and interests in life.... and where your job is (of course).
 
2013-03-06 07:25:50 PM  

zabadu: Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass

Excuse me, fake cop.  Where IN California.  Others understood.


He already admitted he's a dumass. What more do you want?
 
2013-03-06 07:26:44 PM  
Sand immigrant vs Wet immigrant. I don't know who to root for.

Hey, there is a Roberto's on a corner in Oceanside.
 
Ehh
2013-03-06 07:27:10 PM  

cloud_van_dame: Serious question:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.


Culver City, El Segundo?


Redondo/Hermosa is "near the water," which in LA means "up to an hour to drive 10 miles." Spread out a map on a table. Some possibilities: Torrance and Leimert Park.
 
2013-03-06 07:27:47 PM  

Sargun: I moved out to a decent neighbourhood in Cali.  For $1200 we got a nice, clean, house in a great neighbourhood right nearby a university and a decent bit of industry and commercial activity.  It's spacey (the kitchen is a bit small but that's because we're a bit big), doesn't have problems, is bug-free, and there's very little crime in the area.

How about instead of buying shiatty apartments you get off your ass and find a decent place to live.



Near which university?
 
2013-03-06 07:29:08 PM  

meyerkev: Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

In California, it's the mountains and the water.  This does 2 things.

1) It sharply limits the amount of available space.  (The Bay area is REALLY terrible about this.  You're either in the valley or looking at a 3-hour one-way commute over a couple mountain ranges (or possibly both because the entire East and South Bays suck.))
2) It constrains the road network into funnels and sharply limits the space that can be given over to roads leading to terrible traffic.  If there's exactly one road leading from Point A to Point B, I have no choice but to grin and bear it, and if all the roads are 2 lanes tops (where they ought to be 3 lanes minimum with 4-7 lane highways).  Which means that I have a 4-mile commute that can take up to an hour.

And they do pay more.  Chicago was offering 45K-55K compared to Seattle's 90K (or SF's 72K.  (which I took.  Lulz)).  They just don't pay enough more to justify the expense.  Hence why all the "I did everything right and my finances suck" people are from the coasts.  When a house is $70K, I can pick it up with petty change on a 10-year mortgage.  When a house is starting at a million, that's half my lifetime earnings post-tax.

/Also, in SF, there need to be 2 US 101's.  1 101 where people can back up and get onto the bridges across the Bay, and 1 101 where people heading up to the city can just drive over the clusterfark that is the bridge onramps.  Because (other than Google traffic down in Mountain View), that's the big backup for 101.
//Either that or they need to make it easier to get to 280.


this man knows what the fark he is talking about.

/280 rocks, too bad it take forever to to get to it.
 
2013-03-06 07:29:47 PM  

MaxxLarge: I had to to a meeting, but imagine my delight and surprise to come back to such massive amounts of incredibly useful knowledge.

Will be poring over this thread a lot. Genuine thanks to everyone for al the advice.


Since your commute is going to be an evil whore no matter what (unless you move east of work), I'm going suggest sticking with the general Bellflower/Lakewood/Downey area.
One of the issues you're looking at is that most of the new homes are larger than you need and it's hard to find a quaint older home in an area that doesn't require bars on the windows.  These areas have decent neighborhoods and 605 access.

The Valley blows.  It's the definition of soul sucking and you'll leave both you and your wife with a shiatty commute.  At least this way you'll be the only one that's completely miserable.  Take it for the team!
 
2013-03-06 07:29:51 PM  

Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass


Ok, no really. California is a big farking state. Tell me where I can double my hourly wage doing anything but stripping with no extra education needed and I'll be there in a heartbeat.
 
2013-03-06 07:30:48 PM  

MaxxLarge: 1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.


Norwalk or Downey .
 
2013-03-06 07:30:58 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass

Ok, no really. California is a big farking state. Tell me where I can double my hourly wage doing anything but stripping with no extra education needed and I'll be there in a heartbeat.


just play PowerBall.  you'll win eventually
 
2013-03-06 07:31:04 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.


Maybe that works where you are (Vegas, apparently).  California law is different.
 
2013-03-06 07:31:53 PM  

xcv: NO DOUBT. People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage. My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools. If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks. Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor. When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't ...

How is it if you're not-white?


Depends on ethnicity and part of the state. If you're in one of the larger cities you my get the occasional raised eyebrow, but if you aren't an example of the negative stereotype of whatever ethnicity you are that's all you'd get. Smaller towns may earn you some dirty looks though. Depending on the area, if you're Asian, you'll be mistaken for Hmong even if you aren't.
 
2013-03-06 07:33:17 PM  
2 tiny bedrooms and 1 bath house for $325 a month. off street parking and a veggie garden and pecan trees in the backyard. landlord fixes things immediately. $20-25 monthly electric bill in the summer and $45-55 in the winter.
its not how much you make but how little you spend imho.
 
2013-03-06 07:34:15 PM  

starlost: 2 tiny bedrooms and 1 bath house for $325 a month. off street parking and a veggie garden and pecan trees in the backyard. landlord fixes things immediately. $20-25 monthly electric bill in the summer and $45-55 in the winter.
its not how much you make but how little you spend imho.


you live in a bath house?  that's gay
 
2013-03-06 07:36:13 PM  

SirEattonHogg: cloud_van_dame :  kiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.

Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?


Not when I was there in the late 90's.  Lived right next to Land Park.  Got to hear the sheriff ghetto bird doing runs over lovely Oak Park and noise of gunfire.   For a city the size of Sacramento, the crime news in the Sacramento Bee was pretty horrific.

To be fair, that was over a decade ago.  Maybe things are better?


Certain areas of downtown are pits. Specifically near the street named for a pacifist black man- always tons of crime there. However, there's the fab 40's and Tahoe Park. Gorgeous neighborhoods with high home value.

Also, I've never lived downtown. Always about 15 mins east in fair oaks/Carmichael, if anyone knows where that is.

And to whomever said that its 4 hours to Tahoe and SF? I've got news for you. It's 55 minutes from my mom's house, which is 20 mins from mine. And SF? I can get there in 70 minutes on a Saturday morning. If you hit any major freeway between 1pm and 8pm in sac, yes, you're going to have issues.

/I know where to get good lox not in a package
//and where there is a Jewish deli
 
2013-03-06 07:36:17 PM  

MaliFinn: NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.


But its still fark'n Wisconsin.  After 35 years living in MN I recently moved to San Diego.  I get paid more, the job is not in boring financial, manufacturing, retail, or a health insurance industries, there is much more to do, and there are actual brown people here.

Oh did I mention the fark'n weather.

/fark Wisconsin
//and Minnesotan winters
 
2013-03-06 07:37:04 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: zabadu: Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

The weather.

Ok, but I don't have to worry about earthquakes in buttfark Wisconsin. And the weather in New York isn't much different than Wisconsin, and it's less crowded and has less pollution. So again I ask what gives?



There aren't that many 6-figure jobs for physicists and mathematicians in bumfark Missouri, for one...
 
2013-03-06 07:37:32 PM  
"the sinks are often clogged "

But sometimes not? Then stop pouring grease down the drain.
 
2013-03-06 07:39:19 PM  
They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.
 
2013-03-06 07:39:33 PM  
MaliFinn:
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't an issue here.  Lots of people have them, and lots of people have venison at Christmas.
- I fill up my gas tank about once every three weeks.  If I wanted to I could bicycle everywhere I needed to go, always.
- There is no smog, but there is occasionally the smell of a summer BBQ.  Otherwise it just smells like pine trees.
- There are no pet restrictions, but you can't really own cattle in town.  I think.  Horses are ok though, the Amish often ride them around town.
- We have a library, a swim park, a fitness center, a walking trail, snowmobile trails, a hockey rink, a golf course, tennis courts, and many other amenities that are well-maintained and there's never a crowd or a waiting list for any of them.  The swim park costs $3 though.
- When you first move to town it feels like everyone is watching you and is in your business - but it only feels that way.  They really don't care, they just want to say 'hi'.
- Houses can be had for as little as $50k.  Really expensive ones are $250k.
- There's plenty of work, especially if you have a degree, but still plenty even if you don't, as long as you work hard.
- Beer, cheese, sausage, and wild rice.


That's a nice list. However... If you love the ocean, Wisconsin doesn't cut it.
There are ways to live in Los Angeles cheaply and have a great time doing it. I'm sad to say that most people who live in Los Angeles have their hearts so set on living the "LA Lifestyle" they won't consider alternatives.

Los Angeles is a city of mostly lower class people trying to pretend they're upper class. It's a rare duck indeed to find rational people in this town who hold down high-paying jobs but don't look it.
 
2013-03-06 07:40:49 PM  

Marine1: Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".


Agreed. We moved from California to Missouri a little over a year ago. It was a great decision. We own our home outright while our Californian relatives struggle to pay for their $500,000 shacks.
 
2013-03-06 07:41:25 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


1.  There is plenty of labor available in California.
2.  People would rather live in California than Wisconsin, especially  the bumfark part.
 
2013-03-06 07:41:42 PM  

Negligible: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: 

If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?
Worst... city... ever.
Actually I reserve that eternally for Phoenix but LA isn't far behind.


Not all neighborhoods in Los Angeles are created equal.   The parts of Santa Monica and Venice close to the beach, all of Brentwood, Bel Air, and Beverly Hills, most of Pasadena, etc., are WONDERFUL places to live, but they're quite expensive.   However, the areas around USC, Compton, Inglewood, etc., aren't so nice.  If you've only seen those shiatty parts of LA, then, yeah, you're going to think L.A. is a hell hole.
 
2013-03-06 07:45:58 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


I'm wearing a short-sleeved dress shirt to work today, and I'm a professional engineer. I wore a similar shirts through most of February. There is no month of the year in So.Cal where the weather is so cold that you give up your summer clothes. That's probably the main reason people don't leave Southern California.
 
2013-03-06 07:46:35 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: Anyone ever think maybe it wasn't trashed and a rat infested place until they move in and let things get filthy?

Just asking questions.


I'm thinking it wasn't a problem until they were asked to move.
 
2013-03-06 07:48:14 PM  

megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.


so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?
 
2013-03-06 07:49:01 PM  

FizixJunkee: Negligible: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: 

If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?
Worst... city... ever.
Actually I reserve that eternally for Phoenix but LA isn't far behind.

Not all neighborhoods in Los Angeles are created equal.   The parts of Santa Monica and Venice close to the beach, all of Brentwood, Bel Air, and Beverly Hills, most of Pasadena, etc., are WONDERFUL places to live, but they're quite expensive.   However, the areas around USC, Compton, Inglewood, etc., aren't so nice.  If you've only seen those shiatty parts of LA, then, yeah, you're going to think L.A. is a hell hole.


As someone who currently lives in LA; My definition of LA as a hellhole would probably have less to do with crime and geography than it would with people.
 
2013-03-06 07:51:41 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.


No, you're wrong.  White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.
 
2013-03-06 07:52:41 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:
Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).
Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?
Difficulty:
1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.
I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.
Anyone have any suggestions?
/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Serious answer:
Pay the $100 for a subscription to West Side Rentals.

With the dog, you're going to be able to eliminate a lot of potential housing fast. We had the same kind of search in LA proper, and there were only about 10 houses that even came close.

I'd focus on Long Beach. A lot of the area between City of Industry and Redondo is high crime territory where white folks stick out. That can be a bad mix, if you're one of those white folks.
 
2013-03-06 07:53:15 PM  
Damn.  If the LL didn't want the tenant filing in court or calling the sheriff, bet he is overjoyed with his and his wife's picture plastered all over the news...

Obviously a pest problem.  Obviously some electrical issues.  No matter the color of your skin, no excuse to have to live like that, and moving would probably take money they may not have.  If the LL asked them to move, he should have done it in writing- as an attorney he knows this- and they have to move.  The text message is gonna cost them BIG!

LMAO at how the attorney, the doctor and their family are going to have a really fun evening.  Karma is a biatch...
 
2013-03-06 07:54:57 PM  

FizixJunkee: Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.

No, you're wrong.  Rich White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.


FTFY

Why would I pay more for private school to get the the same student to teacher ratio I get for free here?
 
2013-03-06 07:56:17 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.
 
2013-03-06 08:01:09 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.

so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?


Damn, for $1500 you could have bought the Silverdome.*

So yeah.

Or you could buy a block of Lansing and become a Romney.

/so many possibilities

*yeah I know, technically in Pontiac
 
2013-03-06 08:03:14 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.
 
2013-03-06 08:04:17 PM  
the problem with (rental) real estate in California is that all those assholes that inherited the properties from their parents haven't worked a day in their life & basically have to gut renters for all they're worth just to pay for their drug addictions.

way overpriced, under-kept & on top of your neighbors.
Welcome to hell for renters, enjoy the weather!

/southern california anyways
//meh.
 
2013-03-06 08:08:04 PM  

Marine1: Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".


exactly. Living like kings in a frozen wasteland!

/I love snow. until it turns brown and becomes solid ice
 
2013-03-06 08:08:22 PM  

Carth: in DC 1,200 a month will get you a one bedroom and a roommate.


You can't get a studio in NYC for that amount. Even if you just separate NYC into the boroughs, All boroughs except for Staten Island are pricier than DC. Honolulu, Stamford, San Jose, and SF are also pricier than DC. I know lots of people who move down there because costs are so much cheaper. The median cost for RE sales in your area is like $390k. In my "crappy" and totally "uncool" borough of Queens? $550k. Manhattan? Try $1million.

I seriously find it quite funny when you DC/NOVA people complain.

FizixJunkee: Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.

No, you're wrong.  White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.


To be honest, there's plenty of decent public elementary schools in NYC. Just depends on the neighborhood.

.
 
2013-03-06 08:08:36 PM  

SurelyShirley: kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.


Heat is only 3 months of the year, I'm an hour from the beach, so no humidity, and no cow dung- that's Tracey- at least 90 minutes south. Try again.
 
2013-03-06 08:09:59 PM  

chapman: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Lakewood/Pico Rivera/Downey would work.  I lived in Long Beach for years (next to Lakewood), it's a pretty good hub, all the LA freeways radiate out of there because of the port.


I think not.
 
2013-03-06 08:11:10 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: FizixJunkee: Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.

No, you're wrong.  Rich White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.

FTFY

Why would I pay more for private school to get the the same student to teacher ratio I get for free here?



We're moving from Los Angeles to Atlanta in the next couple months.  We rent now but will buy a home when we move, paying an $80,000 down payment for our new home.  Once we factor in property taxes (so we can send the little Crotch Junkee to decent public schools),  much higher utilities (we currently pay $40/month...no way they'll be that cheap in ATL), and the increased gasoline expense (we only have to fill up our car's gas tank once a month here in Los Angeles), we're not coming out ahead by moving to Atlanta; we're still going to be paying $2,000/month for housing+commute.

Of course, Atlanta has worse weather than L.A. and its traffic is not really any better...
 
2013-03-06 08:12:41 PM  

Yogimus: Let's be honest here.  If your immigration status is not of the legal persuasion, then people have you by the short and curlies.  You will work for less, (illegally), and rent for more. (illegally).


Yea but I just don't think that is right. People can be breaking the law and still have rights. You have the right to be treated like a human even if you are breaking the law. It is a pretty basic idea and there are plenty of examples of rights people have even after they are convicted of a crime. So stop repeating the stupid idea that illegal immigrants have no rights at all and deserve any horrible thing that happens to them.
 
2013-03-06 08:12:43 PM  

Lunchlady: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).


Don't worry about the stigma. Sherman Oaks is a nice place, but not a place to live if you have to commute to the South Bay and Industry. Both will be at their wits end within weeks, due to the traffic insanity.
 
2013-03-06 08:14:06 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


You might just want to just consider Hermosa/redondo. Downey isn't bad. Long Beach has a lot for what you're willing to shell out. But if you're willing to commute, I'd so somewhere South Bay. You'll kinda be going opposite traffic a lot of the way. And 605 isn't too crazy.
If you don't mind living inland, Buena Park/La Palma is nice and suburban...  and you're near enough to Disney to see/hear fireworks... But the 91 sucks.
 
2013-03-06 08:14:37 PM  
FTA:  , "It is in your best interest not (to) get the courts or sheriff involved. They sometimes call immigration."

What an idiot landlord. I work with landlords in my career in management and if I ever heard this from one of them I'd quit. And I won't represent anyone who lets their properties degrade like this.

Letting things deteriorate is often a way for landlords to move a tenant out, fix the problems, and then jack up the rent.  Or its a way to get rid of an unwanted tenant. Either way, not cool.
 
2013-03-06 08:19:56 PM  
Well, I like LA.  It ain't perfect for sure.  But I'm not walking outside at 7 in the morning in pitch dark, below zero degree weather in January or February to scrap frigging ice off the car windshield.

And running from the building to your car because the winds are cutting through your down jacket like a knife?   I've done that.  Fark that.

It's more expensive.  Or more expensive to live than in WI or the flyover states.  Okay, fine.  But crime in LA?  Whatever.  LA has been safer than its been in decades, regardless of its penchant for televised car chases and the Mr. Killer Cop fiasco.  Other than that, it's not like I'm hanging out with friends smoking crack in Compton or South Central.
 
2013-03-06 08:20:51 PM  

MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..

Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.

NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't ...


Cool list. Do you moonlight as the person who writes the "99% of you won't share this" pics on Facebook?
 
2013-03-06 08:21:10 PM  
My complex just sold to a new landlord last year. I like the lady that used to own it, but she let shiat slide. These guys are on top of it. One tenant moved out and they totally gutted and rebuilt the unit. I pounced on that place with a quickness.
View of the entire Monterey bay, patio, 2 car garage, 1 bedroom, 1 bath, two minute walk to the beach. New appliances, counters, floors, paint, etc. $1400 monthly.

And I have never shoveled snow here.
 
2013-03-06 08:21:56 PM  

CaptainMorgan13: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I would recommend Norwalk, North Orange County (Fullerton, Brea etc), Whittier or Cypress.  Unfortunately there's little to no chance you'll get a place, in that rental window, that won't have a level of "older neighborhood = borderline sketch" and a handful of security bars on the windows.

Via con Dios.


I was going to suggest either Fullerton or Placentia. Brea and La Habra aren't bad, either - a little farther from the 91, but closer to Industry.
 
2013-03-06 08:22:22 PM  
What's really funny is that threatening a Mexican with deportation in San Diego is not a threat.

It's at most a 50 min drive to the border from Oceanside. And there is always a new tunnel being built under the fence.

\fyi
 
2013-03-06 08:25:54 PM  
Just for comparison, my rental house in Lexington, KY goes for $1200.  It's 1900 sq ft, with a 2 car garage, 2.5 baths, 3 bedrooms on .20 acres.

But I bought when the market and rates were at their peak.  So after management fees it barely covers the mortgage and insurance.  Trying to refinance now.  Being somewhat recently unemployed, if it doesn't rent for a couple months, I'm screwed.
 
2013-03-06 08:26:07 PM  

kiwimoogle84: SurelyShirley: kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.

Heat is only 3 months of the year, I'm an hour from the beach, so no humidity, and no cow dung- that's Tracey- at least 90 minutes south. Try again.


How does an hour from the beach equal no humidity?
What beach can you reach in 1 hour from Sacramento (port of Stockton or the aqueduct don't count)?
 
2013-03-06 08:26:46 PM  

SurelyShirley: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.


Ugh, who are you? Belmont Shore? Yeah a 1 BR with street parking for 2k. Are you just being a dick?
 
2013-03-06 08:28:00 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Also, I've never lived downtown. Always about 15 mins east in fair oaks/Carmichael, if anyone knows where that is.


Raised/born, respectively.
 
2013-03-06 08:30:30 PM  

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


The name "Tarantino" is spelled incorrectly in your profile.
 
2013-03-06 08:31:09 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


I work in RE so obviously my salary here is a lot more. Teachers make more, cops make more, lawyers make more, hell even retail makes more. Last I heard retail in Manhattan makes like $15/hour starting. The "glamour' jobs are also here: fashion/PR/events. You'd make a lot more in a big market. The only thing that really comes to mind that don't make more are doctors. My friend was telling me about these insane salaries she was being offered to move to like, rural West Virginia and North Dakota because those places have a really hard time attracting talented specialists. A little 1000sf 2 bedroom house in, say, a working class neighborhood in NJ would probably cost in the $250-300ks with a decent commute. Probably more like $600k in regular working class NYC.(any outdoor space comes at a premium).
 
2013-03-06 08:31:18 PM  
lol that's my city

I mean, for years Oceanside was never even mentioned on Fark. Now we've had Junior Seau shooting himself here, a Fark party, and even our poverty is exposed for all to see.

Ah, I love this town.
 
2013-03-06 08:34:36 PM  

SurelyShirley: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.


I would definitely recommend driving around a few days in the area during business hours, get a feel for the commute time and the traffic in general.  Redondo Beach is nice, but takes forever to reach a freeway.  Torrance would be my first choice, since commute to City of Industry seems easier, otherwise I think Fullerton and Whittier are not bad choices.  Hopefully something works out.  Your poems are legendary, and I wish you best of luck.
 
2013-03-06 08:38:48 PM  

megarian: Jon iz teh kewl: megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.

so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?

Damn, for $1500 you could have bought the Silverdome.*

So yeah.

Or you could buy a block of Lansing and become a Romney.

/so many possibilities

*yeah I know, technically in Pontiac


Since the Silverdome is in Pontiac, can I use a GM discount?
 
2013-03-06 08:40:42 PM  
Did anyone read the derp in the comment section? Holy shiat. "Its the tenants fault. I mean, stuff doesn't just break on its own." Yes it does retards. And its the landlords responsibility to maintain it. Thats why rent is more expensive than owning. We're paying for upkeep too.
 
2013-03-06 08:41:16 PM  
http://www.fark.com/comments/7629312/82897197#c82897197" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MaxxLarge: Serious question:
Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).
Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?
Difficulty:
1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.
I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.
Anyone have any suggestions?
/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


My 2 cents:

First of all, contrary to an earlier comment, Torrance and San Pedro are not shiatholes - parts of each them are, but most parts of them are really nice (in San Pedro, the South Shores or Averill Park areas for example; in Torrance, anything adjacent to the beach, Redondo, even Old Town Torrance).

If you have kids, those areas are not so great for middle or high schools, but have some nice elementary schools.

The main difficulty you'll have at your price range is getting a house as opposed to an apartment.

Investing in a Westside Rentals subscription (as someone else mentioned) is a good idea. Get a South Bay Rentals subscription too - there is some overlap but you can find some jewels in SBR that are not in WSR.  I would avoid the Valley if I were you - it would not be a fun drive for your wife up and down the 405 day after day. I've done it and it's horrible. Focus on the South Bay, and the west side (Culver City, Mar Vista, Venice). Whatever you do, do NOT go east of the 110.

Before I bought a house in Redondo recently, my wife and I (and her cat) rented a 2 bedroom duplex on a walk street 2 blocks from the beach in Manhattan Beach for 2,400 a month. It took us 4 months to find it but we did.  We found it on SBR.

Above all, keep looking - the deals are out there. Look for mom & pop landlords, the older, the better - someone you can "sell" you and your family to as worthy of living on their property. There are still older moms & pops out there who are somewhat clueless about the rental market and will underprice their properties.  Sometimes they just want to get long term tenants in there, so they set the price at a level where people find it easy to stay. For some landlords who have already made their money, anything they get above their mortgage payments is gravy. I accidentally opened our landlord's mortgage payment one day and found out it was about $900/month (this at the place where we were paying $2,400).

/Live in Redondo Beach
//Work in El Segundo
///So grateful for this commute
 
2013-03-06 08:44:30 PM  
Novart:
lol that's my city

I mean, for years Oceanside was never even mentioned on Fark. Now we've had Junior Seau shooting himself here, a Fark party, and even our poverty is exposed for all to see.

Ah, I love this town.


And yet strangely enough it gets co-opted into a thread about driving directions and places to live in LA.
 
2013-03-06 08:46:02 PM  
gingerjet:/fark Wisconsin
//and Minnesotan winters


So. Very. Much. This.

I lived in or near Milwaukee for most of my life. Did the last six years in Minneapolis.

I never chose to live someplace where it's colder than Santa's nutsack...That's just where I was. I'd hated the weather with every single ounce of my soul since I was a kid, but I just always figured that a warmer climate was out of the question financially.

It wasn't until the winter of '10, (when it was -20° for about 6 weeks, and we got 20 feet of overall snowfall) that I finally got fed up, and said "enough." Luckily, I was at a point in my career where the affordability of coastal living had started to look pretty feasible. And that was BEFORE I got a $16K raise when I jumped gigs.

So...Here we are. And it's BEAUTIFUL. And yeah, it's more expensive. I about shiat the first time I gassed up my Jeep. But frankly, I can't see ever going back to shoveling. Not for anything.
 
2013-03-06 08:48:26 PM  

lack of warmth: megarian: Jon iz teh kewl: megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.

so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?

Damn, for $1500 you could have bought the Silverdome.*

So yeah.

Or you could buy a block of Lansing and become a Romney.

/so many possibilities

*yeah I know, technically in Pontiac

Since the Silverdome is in Pontiac, can I use a GM discount?


Hell yeah! I think you actually get a complimentary house in Detroit, too!

The houses are made of used GM parts, PVC pipes, old mattresses and luck. But it comes with a year of OnStar!
 
2013-03-06 08:48:55 PM  

fsbilly: Ugh, who are you? Belmont Shore? Yeah a 1 BR with street parking for 2k. Are you just being a dick?


Yep, just being a dick. A dick who takes 2 seconds to find this.
And there are more. Plenty. You just have to take a minute and look instead of being a penis, Penis.
 
2013-03-06 08:48:59 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Hmmmm. If you're looking for somewhere between Industry and Hermosa, you have some...interesting neighborhoods to look at. If you're looking at somewhere roughly the same distance from either there's some nicer options. I'm in Western Anaheim and it's 17 mi. from Industry and 28 mi. from Hermosa. Last apartment I rented around here was around 1600 a couple years ago.

Or, if you're looking for something more urban but still safe you could try for one of the more hipster-y neighborhoods of LA like Silver Lake or Echo Park. Dunno what the rent is like though since it's been over a decade since I lived there.
 
2013-03-06 08:49:36 PM  

xcv: Dingleberry Dickwad: xcv: NO DOUBT. People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin...

How is it if you're not-white?


Where I live have a few black families, some hmong, some hispanic, a few Amish and about 40% native.

Big Man On Campus: If you love the ocean, Wisconsin doesn't cut it.


We have more lakes than Minnesota, a bunch of rivers, and 2 Great Lakes- they're not salt, but they're huge.

SirEattonHogg: I also really, really hate driving at 55 - 65 on your one frigging interstate highway (which mostly only has 4 lanes) because the hick state trooper will bust me if I go over that.


I find great humor in this comment coming from the someone who lives in the home of the LAPD.  Yes, we enforce the law here. If you don't like that, thank you for not living here.
 
2013-03-06 08:49:52 PM  
Lol California. I'm currently paying $1000 for a 3 bedroom two story with a full finished basement and a one car garage in suburban Cleveland. Now, before you go "it's Cleveland dude" this is actually a fairly nice suburb . Hell, it beats the shiat out of Buffalo.
 
2013-03-06 08:52:06 PM  

fsbilly: MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero:

Cool list. Do you moonlight as the person who writes the "99% of you won't share this" pics on Facebook?

No, those people need to die.
 
2013-03-06 08:53:23 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Well, I like LA.  It ain't perfect for sure.  But I'm not walking outside at 7 in the morning in pitch dark, below zero degree weather in January or February to scrap frigging ice off the car windshield.


I have friends in Minneapolis who swore I was going to "miss the snow." I used to respond to that by just getting like an inch from their face, and laughing lunch fumes into it until my guts were sore.  

And running from the building to your car because the winds are cutting through your down jacket like a knife?   I've done that.  Fark that.

My favorite was always when the condensation from my breath would form ice crystals in my moustache in just the 30 feet between my door and the car.
 
2013-03-06 08:54:04 PM  

jayphat: it beats the shiat out of Buffalo.


That's a high bar to clear.
 
2013-03-06 08:55:14 PM  
I pay $850 plus utils for a small 1BR apt in a nice area in Seattle. Close to Puget Sound, and walking distance to anything I need. That $850 would go a lot farther in N. Illinois, where I grew up, but I barely like to visit for more than a few days at a time. Getting far away from a conservative prairie state with extreme weather was one of the best descisions I've made.

/lots of loved ones back there, though.
 
2013-03-06 08:57:53 PM  

Lunchlady: zabadu: Lunchlady: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).

Hey homie.  I lived in Studio City and can vouch for your story.

Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.

I used to live in Studio City to, you move out of town?


I did. My dad had Alz, and I came back to be with him.  Now my mother is 85 and my 62 year old brother has Alz.  I'm cursed.
 
2013-03-06 08:58:10 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


Because they offer things you can't get in bumfark Wisconsin, and not everyone likes the same stuff.

I'm from bumfark Ohio, recently moved to Chicago, and am moving to the Bay Area in the fall.  There's no way in hell you could ever drag me back to small-town living in a place like Wisconsin.  I understand the appeal, it's just not for me.  Wisconsin also has the same huge disadvantage as Chicago and Ohio in that the weather is terrible.

The San Francisco Bay area is ideal for me.  I'm a Computer Engineer, and jobs are plentiful.  I love that you can have 260+ sunny days a year instead of 180 you get in the Midwest (200 is the country-wide average).  That's 2-3 additional months of sunny days a year.  As with most major cities, you have fantastic dining options.  One day you could be skiing on one of the best slopes in the country, and the next you could be out on the ocean surfing or laying on the beach, all without driving more than a couple hours from home.  You can take a few hour drive up to wine country for a relaxing weekend with a significant other.  Watch a game of one of the many professional and college sports teams (Even hockey!  Awesome). That's just to name a few, I could go on...

NY and every other major city has a list of unique attractions much like those.  If your primary interests are low cost of living and access to good schools, and none of the above interest you, then there's no reason to move to the SF Bay Area where it's much more expensive to live.  You have to set your own priorities.
 
2013-03-06 08:58:31 PM  
SurelyShirley:Yep, just being a dick. A dick who takes 2 seconds to find this.

Holy fark, that's nice.

Thanks!
 
2013-03-06 08:58:51 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: zabadu: Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.

Just avoid the Slauson Cutoff...


I already cut off my Slauson.
 
2013-03-06 09:00:22 PM  

MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..

Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.

NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't ...


But it's Wisconsin.
 
2013-03-06 09:00:57 PM  
MaxxLarge:  And running from the building to your car because the winds are cutting through your down jacket like a knife?   I've done that.  Fark that.

My favorite was always when the condensation from my breath would form ice crystals in my moustache in just the 30 feet between my door and the car.

Or when you breath in through your nose and its so cold that your nostrils close shut.  All the runny mucus freezing up.

I like cold weather (snow, ice, etc) in December because its childhood memories and romantic stuff about Christmas.  February, March?  That shiat gets old.
 
2013-03-06 09:01:34 PM  

Rich Cream: "the sinks are often clogged "

But sometimes not? Then stop pouring grease down the drain.


This.  Clogged sinks, mold and vermin don't happen on their own.  If the place didn't have clogs, mold and vermin before you moved in, you are the most likely the problem and you are responsible for repairs or you will lose your security deposit.
 
2013-03-06 09:02:26 PM  

lousyskater: As someone who pays $750 a month for rent on a 2bd house in norcal, I'm getting a kick...

To be fair I do live in Rio Vista, of all places.


And you admit to it?
 
2013-03-06 09:04:51 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Or when you breath in through your nose and its so cold that your nostrils close shut.  All the runny mucus freezing up.


Christ. I'm gettin' flashbacks, man. STAHP.

I like cold weather (snow, ice, etc) in December because its childhood memories and romantic stuff about Christmas.  February, March?  That shiat gets old.

See, I got to the point where I hated it even THEN. My loathing of winter was so total that not even picture-postcard Christmases were tolerable.
 
2013-03-06 09:05:39 PM  

fusillade762: zabadu: Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass

Excuse me, fake cop.  Where IN California.  Others understood.

He already admitted he's a dumass. What more do you want?


Can't even spell it correctly. Probably drunk again.
 
2013-03-06 09:08:47 PM  

kiwimoogle84: SirEattonHogg: cloud_van_dame :  kiwimoogle84:

/I know where to get good lox not in a package
//and where there is a Jewish deli


Where, please?  WHERE???
 
2013-03-06 09:09:33 PM  
We need to do an LA fark party.
 
2013-03-06 09:10:29 PM  

SirEattonHogg: But I'm not walking outside at 7 in the morning in pitch dark, below zero degree weather in January or February to scrap frigging ice off the car windshield.


I have a heated attached garage on my house of 20 years.  It cant be overstated how much easier it makes Minnesota winters.

Were it not for that, I think I may well have made the move already.  Nothing more miserable than an ice cold car when you're half awake, that finally warms up about the time you pull into work.

My own escape plan includes Thousand Oaks, Ca. I do service for restaurants and retail and could end up working anywhere.  Do techs charge for their time in gridlock?  Do they only work in certain areas?

I could live with doing one service call a day. so long as I can bill it out at 5 or 6 hours.
 
2013-03-06 09:14:59 PM  

SurelyShirley: kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.


I LOVE YOU!
 
2013-03-06 09:17:32 PM  

SurelyShirley: fsbilly: Ugh, who are you? Belmont Shore? Yeah a 1 BR with street parking for 2k. Are you just being a dick?

Yep, just being a dick. A dick who takes 2 seconds to find this.
And there are more. Plenty. You just have to take a minute and look instead of being a penis, Penis.


So a 2br with street parking and no yard for $2200 a month plus an extra pet deposit in Naples is your retort. Okay cool guy! Seriously. I was just teasing before but you are a full-on farking dick. Enjoy it. ;-)
 
2013-03-06 09:26:30 PM  
Feh.  I have never seen an illegal that isnt pretty much a building destroying rat.  The apartment was probably in great shape until they moved in.  Now that they destroyed it, they are complaining about its condition.  Sorry but you wont get my sympathy that way.
 
2013-03-06 09:30:06 PM  

dualplains: timujin: Wow, that's rough.  I have a 1050sq ft 2/1 SFH with a 1-car garage and a yard about three times the size of the house in a good neighborhood.  I pay $1400.

Moving, though, to the west side into a 1-bed with a loft, a 1-car garage and a small (15x20) yard.  It'll be $1600, but it's 4 miles from the beach and, more importantly, about 2.3 miles from my favorite bar.

You still work on lab? That's a hell of a commute. One of my devs lives in marina del ray and commutes to Pasadena every day. She's farking bug nuts.


Yeah, but it won't be too bad, I'm on a motorcycle
 
2013-03-06 09:40:40 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-06 09:40:48 PM  
It's funny, I've lived in California for almost 10 years and have been thinking about moving back to the Midwest. I've realized that I'll never be able to afford a house out here and really don't want to live in crappy apartments the rest of my life. I'm tired of the people and the city in general. Yeah the weather is nice but you seriously pay for it. I can buy a mansion back home for what a tiny house sells for out here. But i also grew up a small town country kid so I think the older I get the more I gravitate towards that anyway.
 
2013-03-06 10:21:28 PM  
I have a six year old, 3 bed, 2 bath, 1400 sq ft house I could rent you in Southern California for $650. It's not exactly close to anything metropolitan, though.

/Rent can be cheap, even in the lower third of CA.
 
2013-03-06 10:27:06 PM  

Nogrhi: blatz514: A local couple is at the center of a lawsuit that claims they abused their power as landlords.

Rosas and his mother pay $1,250 a month in rent.


Ummm, what?

So they have basements in California.  Not really surprised.



Actually we dont.  Basements are quite rare in CA.
 
2013-03-06 10:31:36 PM  

TomD9938: Thousand Oaks, Ca


lols. they roll up the sidewalks rather early there.
 

SirEattonHogg: We need to do an LA fark party.


Yes, we sure do. Pick a place
 
2013-03-06 10:33:08 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Basements are quite rare in CA.


Not in San Francisco. At least in Bernal Heights
 
2013-03-06 10:36:32 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


La Habra/Whittier/La Mirada come to mind, if no one has mentioned them yet.  You could take the 605N to City of Industry, your wife could take Beach Blvd all the way to HB.  Some parts of Whittier are ghetto, but others are nice - an Executive VP for my company lives in Whittier.
 
2013-03-06 10:39:52 PM  

alienated: Ima4nic8or: Basements are quite rare in CA.

Not in San Francisco. At least in Bernal Heights


I was thinking of normal places one might actually chose to live. Like homes less than 50 years old in San Jose or Fremont, but yes, the ancient victorians do have basements.
 
2013-03-06 10:45:47 PM  

alienated: TomD9938: Thousand Oaks, Ca

lols. they roll up the sidewalks rather early there.

I'm not a kid anymore, so I can live with that.

Mainly want to golf year round.

/ and work as needed

 
2013-03-06 10:59:39 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: zabadu: Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

The weather.

Ok, but I don't have to worry about earthquakes in buttfark Wisconsin. And the weather in New York isn't much different than Wisconsin, and it's less crowded and has less pollution. So again I ask what gives?


The difference is that there are actually jobs in Ca.  At the risk of sounding elitist, what I mean is jobs for college educated professionals.  You just dont find many biotech, medical device or software jobs in bumfark Wisconsin.  Contrary to what you seem to state above the jobs do pay more here too.  A mid level engineer makes in the low to mid 100,000k range in the SF bay area or in LA.  Even when I was doing nothing more than mindless labor in a bakery packaging department while working my way through college I was making 60k a year.  Do they pay more compared to other areas given the higher housing and other living costs? Probably not, but at least we have tolerable weather and good job options.

Earthquakes are not really a worry.  Sure, they happen, but so do tornadoes, hurricanes, etc..  I find the later much more frightening and cant imagine why folks live in places where they occur.  It is really what you have become acclimated to.  A Californian sees earthquakes as a rare, often harmless event that is easy to prepare for but is terrified by the idea of a tornado.  The mid-westerner has the opposite view.  Its just a frame of reference issue.
 
2013-03-06 11:09:35 PM  
Protip: if you rent from a lawyer, the property will be precisely miserable enough to qualify as legal.
 
2013-03-06 11:21:34 PM  
All this happened in a year and a half from when the new landlords took over,  Sounds like the tenenents had a lot to do with this.  I hope they get deported.
 
2013-03-06 11:48:59 PM  

chapman: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Lakewood/Pico Rivera/Downey would work.  I lived in Long Beach for years (next to Lakewood), it's a pretty good hub, all the LA freeways radiate out of there because of the port.


Some parts of Downey and Lakewood are decent. Pico?? Shopping-wise, it sucks. Try Montebello, particularly the area north of Beverly Blvd. Whittier has some nice areas as well.

Actually, Culver City or the decent parts of Torrance would be better for your wife. You might have a slightly rough commute on the eastbound 10 to the 60, but once you hit the 60, you'll be flying, as the really bad traffic on said freeway is westbound.

/grew up in Pico
 
2013-03-07 12:10:09 AM  
Welcome to America, now go home.
 
2013-03-07 12:19:57 AM  

zabadu: lousyskater: As someone who pays $750 a month for rent on a 2bd house in norcal, I'm getting a kick...

To be fair I do live in Rio Vista, of all places.

And you admit to it?


Damn straight. I'd rather live here in Rio Vista than Fairfield, Vacaville, or Stockton. I work at the wind farm out here and live literally 5 minutes from my shop.
 
2013-03-07 01:50:05 AM  

phelixcubed: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

La Habra/Whittier/La Mirada come to mind, if no one has mentioned them yet.  You could take the 605N to City of Industry, your wife could take Beach Blvd all the way to HB.  Some parts of Whittier are ghetto, but others are nice - an Executive VP for my company lives in Whittier.


Wrong HB
 
2013-03-07 02:01:11 AM  

Ima4nic8or: alienated: Ima4nic8or: Basements are quite rare in CA.

Not in San Francisco. At least in Bernal Heights

I was thinking of normal places one might actually chose to live. Like homes less than 50 years old in San Jose or Fremont, but yes, the ancient victorians do have basements.


Hey now. My mom used to manage a few of those buildings that have basements, and there were waiting lists to get in. Her friend spent a buttload of money after the quake to refit and upgrade them, and they were  quite nice. Close to the Mission too, so one was never wanting for a good tacqueria. I wish her friend was still alive so i could fly into oakland or sfo i/o Charles Schultz in santa rosa when I visit my mum .
 
2013-03-07 02:08:31 AM  
I don't see what the problem is. I know this woman who moved to L.A. from Nebraska to become an actress. She got a job as a waitress at the cheesecake factory until she makes it big. Her place in Pasadena is really nice. Last I heard she was dating some nerd in her apartment building...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-07 02:40:15 AM  
By the way, to completely jack this thread into some good- We do , in fact, need another los angeles fark party.
Its time. Why ? well, the Kings won the damn Stanley Cup, the Clippers are good, The Lakers not so much, The Dodgers might go somewhere, and the Angels just got a bargain deal, which should mean that they win the AL west ( or something, baseball is not my sport, but has been very very good to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0GtPwDJyw0  this is Garret Morris talking about some of his work on SNL . )

We do need another epic party, like 400 plus folks. We can do it. we have the technology. We have places that can on a normal big night handle that many folks. Think your local VFW or DAV. I know one DAV place in the valley that can handle > 500, plus folks swimming and playing horshoes. They have a bar, so license is not an issue ( i can supply some stuff at cost. ) But- you folks might have a better place.
I am open to hear all, and to help the best one host if needed.
 
2013-03-07 03:36:11 AM  

fsbilly: SurelyShirley: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.

Ugh, who are you? Belmont Shore? Yeah a 1 BR with street parking for 2k. Are you just being a dick?



Been living in North Redondo for almost a year and work in El Segundo commute is 15 / 20 mins, the south bay is really really nice, anything west of the 405 and you'll be fine. I used to live (up to a year and a half ago) in caribbean country so being close to the beach is a big plus for me.

I got this apartment through a management company, it's 1 bed / 1 bath, walk in closet, carport garage and I pay 1100 with trash and water included.

I'd say what's the point of making both of you miserable with hour long commutes when you could live in Redondo/Hermosa/Manhattan B, and only one of you would have a shiatty commute. There's nothing pretty near City of Industry.
 
2013-03-07 06:40:36 AM  
I wonder how many of these people who complain about slumlords actually wreck the apartments, live like slobs, and then blame the landlord.
 
2013-03-07 08:28:18 AM  
Fark...did I miss my chance to brag about not having to live on one of the over priced, human infested coasts?

/Mortgage = $647
//1800 sq ft, 3 bed, 2 bath; fenced in yard
///12 minutes to downtown Minneapolis/work
////no hoa!
 
2013-03-07 09:47:09 AM  

Chafed Willi: Fark...did I miss my chance to brag about not having to live on one of the over priced, human infested coasts?

/Mortgage = $647
//1800 sq ft, 3 bed, 2 bath; fenced in yard
///12 minutes to downtown Minneapolis/work
////no hoa


Moved to san diego from hawaii and have lived on east coast and mid west.  Admittedly have become a weather wimp , my job provides a geographic housing bonus, and i bought at pretty close to bottom here.  Golf year, BBQ, etc year round outside....yeah lots of people and traffic but you can have Minnesota.
 
2013-03-07 10:19:42 AM  
MaliFinn:
We have more lakes than Minnesota, a bunch of rivers, and 2 Great Lakes- they're not salt, but they're huge.

Freshwater inland Lake =/= the Pacific Ocean. Can you surf on the waves in the great lakes? Not very often, and when you can, you likely don't want to be out in it.

Yes, Minnesota/Wisconson/Michigan have some of the best lake/river camping areas in the world, it doesn't make up for the Pacific.
 
2013-03-07 10:29:49 AM  

johnny_vegas: Chafed Willi: Fark...did I miss my chance to brag about not having to live on one of the over priced, human infested coasts?

/Mortgage = $647
//1800 sq ft, 3 bed, 2 bath; fenced in yard
///12 minutes to downtown Minneapolis/work
////no hoa

Moved to san diego from hawaii and have lived on east coast and mid west.  Admittedly have become a weather wimp , my job provides a geographic housing bonus, and i bought at pretty close to bottom here.  Golf year, BBQ, etc year round outside....yeah lots of people and traffic but you can have Minnesota.


Maybe its because I lived in MN first, but I lived in the mission valley area for a while. The weather was nice, but you can have the idiots and traffic :)
 
2013-03-07 10:30:05 AM  

lousyskater: zabadu: lousyskater: As someone who pays $750 a month for rent on a 2bd house in norcal, I'm getting a kick...

To be fair I do live in Rio Vista, of all places.

And you admit to it?

Damn straight. I'd rather live here in Rio Vista than Fairfield, Vacaville, or Stockton. I work at the wind farm out here and live literally 5 minutes from my shop.


I've gotta admit, I read that wrong.  I thought you wrote Rio LINDA....my apologies.
 
2013-03-07 10:51:09 AM  

gblive: In most states the landlord wil evict you 15 days after the rent is not paid. The Sheriff's Dept. will be happy to do the eviction.



Know I how I know you've never had to have a non-paying tenant evicted?

It took almost fourmonths to get the police to kick mine out, and I wasn't even able to file the paperwork until they were 30 days late.

It is seriously the closest I've ever come to wanting to kill a person. Or perhaps to burn down my own nose in order to spite my face.
 
2013-03-07 10:51:10 AM  

zabadu: kiwimoogle84: SirEattonHogg: cloud_van_dame :  kiwimoogle84:

/I know where to get good lox not in a package
//and where there is a Jewish deli

Where, please?  WHERE???


http://www.yelp.com/biz/sams-kosher-style-restaurant-and-deli-fair-oa k s

You're welcome. They sell lox there occasionally. Unfortunately the other place I go for smoked fish closed down sometime last year when I was living out of state. There's still good places to look in Old Sac though.

SurelyShirley- My apologies. I can get to my favorite beach in San Francisco in 75 minutes. Pardon me for rounding down. But Sacramento is NOT humid. Nice to see that's the only piece of the three you latched on to though. Someone holds a grudge for no reason. What happened honey, did you get lost in midtown and go the wrong way down a one-way street? Or maybe you didn't know where to look for good food because you used UrbanSpoon and didn't just ask a local. Sorry for your troubles either way.

Sid_6.7 - Good eye, and fixed.
 
2013-03-07 11:02:08 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, but I don't have to worry about earthquakes in buttfark Wisconsin. And the weather in New York isn't much different than Wisconsin, and it's less crowded and has less pollution. So again I ask what gives?



You dismiss a major metropolitan area with "New York doesn't have a single farking thing good about it", and claim that wages are no higher in California or New York.

If you have to ask the question that many times, there is no response that you will accept as good enough. Why would anyone bother?
 
2013-03-07 11:10:01 AM  
/CSB

A few years ago while working in my previous employ to a company that rhymes with Hallmart, I was chit chatting with the interal security guy responsible for all the cable running and hardwiring of systems for a few states. We got to talking about housing and renting as I had just started renting a place. He told me his parents were renting 3 places but as soon as the tenants moved, they were selling.  And they would never rent to immigrants again. Apparently, they had a rented to an immigrant family of latino background.  Quiet people, always paid on time, never complained. Until they left. They go into the unit, and the carpet has to be replaced, it's ruined. And it was new a year ago. But while he is writing up his list of stuff that needs to be fixed he leans against the wall.  It moves. Looks fine though. So he starts pushing on it and notices a tone of cracks forming on the plaster. He looks for the stud and punches a hole away from it.  It's duct tape. He grabs and pulls back a five foot by six foot patch of duct tape covering a whole in the wall of equal size that the renters had made, covered, plastered, and painted.
//end CSB
 
2013-03-07 12:51:48 PM  

Chafed Willi: johnny_vegas: Chafed Willi: Fark...did I miss my chance to brag about not having to live on one of the over priced, human infested coasts?

/Mortgage = $647
//1800 sq ft, 3 bed, 2 bath; fenced in yard
///12 minutes to downtown Minneapolis/work
////no hoa

Moved to san diego from hawaii and have lived on east coast and mid west.  Admittedly have become a weather wimp , my job provides a geographic housing bonus, and i bought at pretty close to bottom here.  Golf year, BBQ, etc year round outside....yeah lots of people and traffic but you can have Minnesota.

Maybe its because I lived in MN first, but I lived in the mission valley area for a while. The weather was nice, but you can have the idiots and traffic :)


make no mistake...weather is the biggest issue for me for sure...several college buddies from Coon Rapids...always enjoyed visiting..
 
2013-03-07 08:47:01 PM  
I'm sure if the people would only shop around before renting, like maybe in another city or state, they could find a place just as crappy for a whole lot less.  I mean, they could even find a nicer place for much, much less.
 
2013-03-08 12:43:59 AM  
They only have themselves to blame. If they came here legally this wouldn't be an issue.
 
2013-03-08 11:56:29 AM  

kiwimoogle84: zabadu: kiwimoogle84: SirEattonHogg: cloud_van_dame :  kiwimoogle84:

/I know where to get good lox not in a package
//and where there is a Jewish deli

Where, please?  WHERE???

http://www.yelp.com/biz/sams-kosher-style-restaurant-and-deli-fair-oa k s

You're welcome. They sell lox there occasionally. Unfortunately the other place I go for smoked fish closed down sometime last year when I was living out of state. There's still good places to look in Old Sac though.


This is a good kosher 'style' restaurant.

Yeah, no.  It's like saying Sam's Hof Brau is a good deli.  Sorry, but that's just a sandwich shop.

As for Old Sac, there is nothing there but chains.  And gangs.
 
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