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2013-03-06 07:49:01 PM  

FizixJunkee: Negligible: skullkrusher: Mikey1969: 

If it's location, location, location, why the hell is LA property so expensive?
Worst... city... ever.
Actually I reserve that eternally for Phoenix but LA isn't far behind.

Not all neighborhoods in Los Angeles are created equal.   The parts of Santa Monica and Venice close to the beach, all of Brentwood, Bel Air, and Beverly Hills, most of Pasadena, etc., are WONDERFUL places to live, but they're quite expensive.   However, the areas around USC, Compton, Inglewood, etc., aren't so nice.  If you've only seen those shiatty parts of LA, then, yeah, you're going to think L.A. is a hell hole.


As someone who currently lives in LA; My definition of LA as a hellhole would probably have less to do with crime and geography than it would with people.
 
2013-03-06 07:51:41 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.


No, you're wrong.  White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.
 
2013-03-06 07:52:41 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:
Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).
Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?
Difficulty:
1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.
I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.
Anyone have any suggestions?
/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Serious answer:
Pay the $100 for a subscription to West Side Rentals.

With the dog, you're going to be able to eliminate a lot of potential housing fast. We had the same kind of search in LA proper, and there were only about 10 houses that even came close.

I'd focus on Long Beach. A lot of the area between City of Industry and Redondo is high crime territory where white folks stick out. That can be a bad mix, if you're one of those white folks.
 
2013-03-06 07:53:15 PM  
Damn.  If the LL didn't want the tenant filing in court or calling the sheriff, bet he is overjoyed with his and his wife's picture plastered all over the news...

Obviously a pest problem.  Obviously some electrical issues.  No matter the color of your skin, no excuse to have to live like that, and moving would probably take money they may not have.  If the LL asked them to move, he should have done it in writing- as an attorney he knows this- and they have to move.  The text message is gonna cost them BIG!

LMAO at how the attorney, the doctor and their family are going to have a really fun evening.  Karma is a biatch...
 
2013-03-06 07:54:57 PM  

FizixJunkee: Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.

No, you're wrong.  Rich White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.


FTFY

Why would I pay more for private school to get the the same student to teacher ratio I get for free here?
 
2013-03-06 07:56:17 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.
 
2013-03-06 08:01:09 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.

so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?


Damn, for $1500 you could have bought the Silverdome.*

So yeah.

Or you could buy a block of Lansing and become a Romney.

/so many possibilities

*yeah I know, technically in Pontiac
 
2013-03-06 08:03:14 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.
 
2013-03-06 08:04:17 PM  
the problem with (rental) real estate in California is that all those assholes that inherited the properties from their parents haven't worked a day in their life & basically have to gut renters for all they're worth just to pay for their drug addictions.

way overpriced, under-kept & on top of your neighbors.
Welcome to hell for renters, enjoy the weather!

/southern california anyways
//meh.
 
2013-03-06 08:08:04 PM  

Marine1: Every time I've walked out into the cold here in Columbia, MO., I've thought, "Sheesh, it'd be nice to live somewhere warm during the winter. Or all year long."

Then I remember what cost-of-living expenses are like on the coasts and say, "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".


exactly. Living like kings in a frozen wasteland!

/I love snow. until it turns brown and becomes solid ice
 
2013-03-06 08:08:22 PM  

Carth: in DC 1,200 a month will get you a one bedroom and a roommate.


You can't get a studio in NYC for that amount. Even if you just separate NYC into the boroughs, All boroughs except for Staten Island are pricier than DC. Honolulu, Stamford, San Jose, and SF are also pricier than DC. I know lots of people who move down there because costs are so much cheaper. The median cost for RE sales in your area is like $390k. In my "crappy" and totally "uncool" borough of Queens? $550k. Manhattan? Try $1million.

I seriously find it quite funny when you DC/NOVA people complain.

FizixJunkee: Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.

No, you're wrong.  White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.


To be honest, there's plenty of decent public elementary schools in NYC. Just depends on the neighborhood.

.
 
2013-03-06 08:08:36 PM  

SurelyShirley: kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.


Heat is only 3 months of the year, I'm an hour from the beach, so no humidity, and no cow dung- that's Tracey- at least 90 minutes south. Try again.
 
2013-03-06 08:09:59 PM  

chapman: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Lakewood/Pico Rivera/Downey would work.  I lived in Long Beach for years (next to Lakewood), it's a pretty good hub, all the LA freeways radiate out of there because of the port.


I think not.
 
2013-03-06 08:11:10 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: FizixJunkee: Dingleberry Dickwad:  If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right.

No, you're wrong.  Rich White people in NY, LA, and SF send their kids to private schools with high teacher-to-student ratios.

FTFY

Why would I pay more for private school to get the the same student to teacher ratio I get for free here?



We're moving from Los Angeles to Atlanta in the next couple months.  We rent now but will buy a home when we move, paying an $80,000 down payment for our new home.  Once we factor in property taxes (so we can send the little Crotch Junkee to decent public schools),  much higher utilities (we currently pay $40/month...no way they'll be that cheap in ATL), and the increased gasoline expense (we only have to fill up our car's gas tank once a month here in Los Angeles), we're not coming out ahead by moving to Atlanta; we're still going to be paying $2,000/month for housing+commute.

Of course, Atlanta has worse weather than L.A. and its traffic is not really any better...
 
2013-03-06 08:12:41 PM  

Yogimus: Let's be honest here.  If your immigration status is not of the legal persuasion, then people have you by the short and curlies.  You will work for less, (illegally), and rent for more. (illegally).


Yea but I just don't think that is right. People can be breaking the law and still have rights. You have the right to be treated like a human even if you are breaking the law. It is a pretty basic idea and there are plenty of examples of rights people have even after they are convicted of a crime. So stop repeating the stupid idea that illegal immigrants have no rights at all and deserve any horrible thing that happens to them.
 
2013-03-06 08:12:43 PM  

Lunchlady: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).


Don't worry about the stigma. Sherman Oaks is a nice place, but not a place to live if you have to commute to the South Bay and Industry. Both will be at their wits end within weeks, due to the traffic insanity.
 
2013-03-06 08:14:06 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


You might just want to just consider Hermosa/redondo. Downey isn't bad. Long Beach has a lot for what you're willing to shell out. But if you're willing to commute, I'd so somewhere South Bay. You'll kinda be going opposite traffic a lot of the way. And 605 isn't too crazy.
If you don't mind living inland, Buena Park/La Palma is nice and suburban...  and you're near enough to Disney to see/hear fireworks... But the 91 sucks.
 
2013-03-06 08:14:37 PM  
FTA:  , "It is in your best interest not (to) get the courts or sheriff involved. They sometimes call immigration."

What an idiot landlord. I work with landlords in my career in management and if I ever heard this from one of them I'd quit. And I won't represent anyone who lets their properties degrade like this.

Letting things deteriorate is often a way for landlords to move a tenant out, fix the problems, and then jack up the rent.  Or its a way to get rid of an unwanted tenant. Either way, not cool.
 
2013-03-06 08:19:56 PM  
Well, I like LA.  It ain't perfect for sure.  But I'm not walking outside at 7 in the morning in pitch dark, below zero degree weather in January or February to scrap frigging ice off the car windshield.

And running from the building to your car because the winds are cutting through your down jacket like a knife?   I've done that.  Fark that.

It's more expensive.  Or more expensive to live than in WI or the flyover states.  Okay, fine.  But crime in LA?  Whatever.  LA has been safer than its been in decades, regardless of its penchant for televised car chases and the Mr. Killer Cop fiasco.  Other than that, it's not like I'm hanging out with friends smoking crack in Compton or South Central.
 
2013-03-06 08:20:51 PM  

MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..

Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.

NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't ...


Cool list. Do you moonlight as the person who writes the "99% of you won't share this" pics on Facebook?
 
2013-03-06 08:21:10 PM  
My complex just sold to a new landlord last year. I like the lady that used to own it, but she let shiat slide. These guys are on top of it. One tenant moved out and they totally gutted and rebuilt the unit. I pounced on that place with a quickness.
View of the entire Monterey bay, patio, 2 car garage, 1 bedroom, 1 bath, two minute walk to the beach. New appliances, counters, floors, paint, etc. $1400 monthly.

And I have never shoveled snow here.
 
2013-03-06 08:21:56 PM  

CaptainMorgan13: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I would recommend Norwalk, North Orange County (Fullerton, Brea etc), Whittier or Cypress.  Unfortunately there's little to no chance you'll get a place, in that rental window, that won't have a level of "older neighborhood = borderline sketch" and a handful of security bars on the windows.

Via con Dios.


I was going to suggest either Fullerton or Placentia. Brea and La Habra aren't bad, either - a little farther from the 91, but closer to Industry.
 
2013-03-06 08:22:22 PM  
What's really funny is that threatening a Mexican with deportation in San Diego is not a threat.

It's at most a 50 min drive to the border from Oceanside. And there is always a new tunnel being built under the fence.

\fyi
 
2013-03-06 08:25:54 PM  
Just for comparison, my rental house in Lexington, KY goes for $1200.  It's 1900 sq ft, with a 2 car garage, 2.5 baths, 3 bedrooms on .20 acres.

But I bought when the market and rates were at their peak.  So after management fees it barely covers the mortgage and insurance.  Trying to refinance now.  Being somewhat recently unemployed, if it doesn't rent for a couple months, I'm screwed.
 
2013-03-06 08:26:07 PM  

kiwimoogle84: SurelyShirley: kiwimoogle84: Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Oceanside is not L.A.
The money you save by renting in Sacramento, you'll spend on a/c and air-purifiers to keep heat, humidity and cow dunk smells out.

Heat is only 3 months of the year, I'm an hour from the beach, so no humidity, and no cow dung- that's Tracey- at least 90 minutes south. Try again.


How does an hour from the beach equal no humidity?
What beach can you reach in 1 hour from Sacramento (port of Stockton or the aqueduct don't count)?
 
2013-03-06 08:26:46 PM  

SurelyShirley: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.


Ugh, who are you? Belmont Shore? Yeah a 1 BR with street parking for 2k. Are you just being a dick?
 
2013-03-06 08:28:00 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Also, I've never lived downtown. Always about 15 mins east in fair oaks/Carmichael, if anyone knows where that is.


Raised/born, respectively.
 
2013-03-06 08:30:30 PM  

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


The name "Tarantino" is spelled incorrectly in your profile.
 
2013-03-06 08:31:09 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


I work in RE so obviously my salary here is a lot more. Teachers make more, cops make more, lawyers make more, hell even retail makes more. Last I heard retail in Manhattan makes like $15/hour starting. The "glamour' jobs are also here: fashion/PR/events. You'd make a lot more in a big market. The only thing that really comes to mind that don't make more are doctors. My friend was telling me about these insane salaries she was being offered to move to like, rural West Virginia and North Dakota because those places have a really hard time attracting talented specialists. A little 1000sf 2 bedroom house in, say, a working class neighborhood in NJ would probably cost in the $250-300ks with a decent commute. Probably more like $600k in regular working class NYC.(any outdoor space comes at a premium).
 
2013-03-06 08:31:18 PM  
lol that's my city

I mean, for years Oceanside was never even mentioned on Fark. Now we've had Junior Seau shooting himself here, a Fark party, and even our poverty is exposed for all to see.

Ah, I love this town.
 
2013-03-06 08:34:36 PM  

SurelyShirley: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

I'd suggest Torrance/South Redondo area.
Unfortunately, there's nothing worth living in halfway between Industry and Hermosa, so you might as well stay in the South Bay and deal with the commute (which will be awful). Belmont Shore is nice, too, but then you'd both have to deal with traffic.


I would definitely recommend driving around a few days in the area during business hours, get a feel for the commute time and the traffic in general.  Redondo Beach is nice, but takes forever to reach a freeway.  Torrance would be my first choice, since commute to City of Industry seems easier, otherwise I think Fullerton and Whittier are not bad choices.  Hopefully something works out.  Your poems are legendary, and I wish you best of luck.
 
2013-03-06 08:38:48 PM  

megarian: Jon iz teh kewl: megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.

so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?

Damn, for $1500 you could have bought the Silverdome.*

So yeah.

Or you could buy a block of Lansing and become a Romney.

/so many possibilities

*yeah I know, technically in Pontiac


Since the Silverdome is in Pontiac, can I use a GM discount?
 
2013-03-06 08:40:42 PM  
Did anyone read the derp in the comment section? Holy shiat. "Its the tenants fault. I mean, stuff doesn't just break on its own." Yes it does retards. And its the landlords responsibility to maintain it. Thats why rent is more expensive than owning. We're paying for upkeep too.
 
2013-03-06 08:41:16 PM  
http://www.fark.com/comments/7629312/82897197#c82897197" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MaxxLarge: Serious question:
Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).
Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?
Difficulty:
1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.
I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.
Anyone have any suggestions?
/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


My 2 cents:

First of all, contrary to an earlier comment, Torrance and San Pedro are not shiatholes - parts of each them are, but most parts of them are really nice (in San Pedro, the South Shores or Averill Park areas for example; in Torrance, anything adjacent to the beach, Redondo, even Old Town Torrance).

If you have kids, those areas are not so great for middle or high schools, but have some nice elementary schools.

The main difficulty you'll have at your price range is getting a house as opposed to an apartment.

Investing in a Westside Rentals subscription (as someone else mentioned) is a good idea. Get a South Bay Rentals subscription too - there is some overlap but you can find some jewels in SBR that are not in WSR.  I would avoid the Valley if I were you - it would not be a fun drive for your wife up and down the 405 day after day. I've done it and it's horrible. Focus on the South Bay, and the west side (Culver City, Mar Vista, Venice). Whatever you do, do NOT go east of the 110.

Before I bought a house in Redondo recently, my wife and I (and her cat) rented a 2 bedroom duplex on a walk street 2 blocks from the beach in Manhattan Beach for 2,400 a month. It took us 4 months to find it but we did.  We found it on SBR.

Above all, keep looking - the deals are out there. Look for mom & pop landlords, the older, the better - someone you can "sell" you and your family to as worthy of living on their property. There are still older moms & pops out there who are somewhat clueless about the rental market and will underprice their properties.  Sometimes they just want to get long term tenants in there, so they set the price at a level where people find it easy to stay. For some landlords who have already made their money, anything they get above their mortgage payments is gravy. I accidentally opened our landlord's mortgage payment one day and found out it was about $900/month (this at the place where we were paying $2,400).

/Live in Redondo Beach
//Work in El Segundo
///So grateful for this commute
 
2013-03-06 08:44:30 PM  
Novart:
lol that's my city

I mean, for years Oceanside was never even mentioned on Fark. Now we've had Junior Seau shooting himself here, a Fark party, and even our poverty is exposed for all to see.

Ah, I love this town.


And yet strangely enough it gets co-opted into a thread about driving directions and places to live in LA.
 
2013-03-06 08:46:02 PM  
gingerjet:/fark Wisconsin
//and Minnesotan winters


So. Very. Much. This.

I lived in or near Milwaukee for most of my life. Did the last six years in Minneapolis.

I never chose to live someplace where it's colder than Santa's nutsack...That's just where I was. I'd hated the weather with every single ounce of my soul since I was a kid, but I just always figured that a warmer climate was out of the question financially.

It wasn't until the winter of '10, (when it was -20° for about 6 weeks, and we got 20 feet of overall snowfall) that I finally got fed up, and said "enough." Luckily, I was at a point in my career where the affordability of coastal living had started to look pretty feasible. And that was BEFORE I got a $16K raise when I jumped gigs.

So...Here we are. And it's BEAUTIFUL. And yeah, it's more expensive. I about shiat the first time I gassed up my Jeep. But frankly, I can't see ever going back to shoveling. Not for anything.
 
2013-03-06 08:48:26 PM  

lack of warmth: megarian: Jon iz teh kewl: megarian: They should move to Detroit. Being in the USA illegally would make them better off than most of my neighbors.

And you can BUY a house for $100. "Fixer-upper" comes to mind: http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

Yeah. No.

so for only $1500 i could buy all of them, and be the next John McCain?

Damn, for $1500 you could have bought the Silverdome.*

So yeah.

Or you could buy a block of Lansing and become a Romney.

/so many possibilities

*yeah I know, technically in Pontiac

Since the Silverdome is in Pontiac, can I use a GM discount?


Hell yeah! I think you actually get a complimentary house in Detroit, too!

The houses are made of used GM parts, PVC pipes, old mattresses and luck. But it comes with a year of OnStar!
 
2013-03-06 08:48:55 PM  

fsbilly: Ugh, who are you? Belmont Shore? Yeah a 1 BR with street parking for 2k. Are you just being a dick?


Yep, just being a dick. A dick who takes 2 seconds to find this.
And there are more. Plenty. You just have to take a minute and look instead of being a penis, Penis.
 
2013-03-06 08:48:59 PM  

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Hmmmm. If you're looking for somewhere between Industry and Hermosa, you have some...interesting neighborhoods to look at. If you're looking at somewhere roughly the same distance from either there's some nicer options. I'm in Western Anaheim and it's 17 mi. from Industry and 28 mi. from Hermosa. Last apartment I rented around here was around 1600 a couple years ago.

Or, if you're looking for something more urban but still safe you could try for one of the more hipster-y neighborhoods of LA like Silver Lake or Echo Park. Dunno what the rent is like though since it's been over a decade since I lived there.
 
2013-03-06 08:49:36 PM  

xcv: Dingleberry Dickwad: xcv: NO DOUBT. People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin...

How is it if you're not-white?


Where I live have a few black families, some hmong, some hispanic, a few Amish and about 40% native.

Big Man On Campus: If you love the ocean, Wisconsin doesn't cut it.


We have more lakes than Minnesota, a bunch of rivers, and 2 Great Lakes- they're not salt, but they're huge.

SirEattonHogg: I also really, really hate driving at 55 - 65 on your one frigging interstate highway (which mostly only has 4 lanes) because the hick state trooper will bust me if I go over that.


I find great humor in this comment coming from the someone who lives in the home of the LAPD.  Yes, we enforce the law here. If you don't like that, thank you for not living here.
 
2013-03-06 08:49:52 PM  
Lol California. I'm currently paying $1000 for a 3 bedroom two story with a full finished basement and a one car garage in suburban Cleveland. Now, before you go "it's Cleveland dude" this is actually a fairly nice suburb . Hell, it beats the shiat out of Buffalo.
 
2013-03-06 08:52:06 PM  

fsbilly: MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero:

Cool list. Do you moonlight as the person who writes the "99% of you won't share this" pics on Facebook?

No, those people need to die.
 
2013-03-06 08:53:23 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Well, I like LA.  It ain't perfect for sure.  But I'm not walking outside at 7 in the morning in pitch dark, below zero degree weather in January or February to scrap frigging ice off the car windshield.


I have friends in Minneapolis who swore I was going to "miss the snow." I used to respond to that by just getting like an inch from their face, and laughing lunch fumes into it until my guts were sore.  

And running from the building to your car because the winds are cutting through your down jacket like a knife?   I've done that.  Fark that.

My favorite was always when the condensation from my breath would form ice crystals in my moustache in just the 30 feet between my door and the car.
 
2013-03-06 08:54:04 PM  

jayphat: it beats the shiat out of Buffalo.


That's a high bar to clear.
 
2013-03-06 08:55:14 PM  
I pay $850 plus utils for a small 1BR apt in a nice area in Seattle. Close to Puget Sound, and walking distance to anything I need. That $850 would go a lot farther in N. Illinois, where I grew up, but I barely like to visit for more than a few days at a time. Getting far away from a conservative prairie state with extreme weather was one of the best descisions I've made.

/lots of loved ones back there, though.
 
2013-03-06 08:57:53 PM  

Lunchlady: zabadu: Lunchlady: MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site

Honest to God, the Valley. I know it's got a stigma, but it's probably as close you'll get as middle between the two and it cuts out going through Downtown for one or both of you for your trip to work. As bad as the 405 will be going to Redondo most days it is NOTHING compared to getting not only into downtown but also through downtown. And once you get past the 5 split in Burbank the drive to Industry is cake.

I live in Sherman Oaks literally 60 seconds from a 101 onramp in a two bed, one bath, half kitchen, sitting area, living room with a one-car garage with a door and space for a second behind it for $1,295 per month. I can walk to two different supermarkets and the gigantic West Valley Park complex nearby. Now I live in a small 5 unit complex so I don't have a fenced yard, but you can get a house a street or two in either direction for under $2,000 per month easy (I know since I moved to this place in October).

Hey homie.  I lived in Studio City and can vouch for your story.

Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.

I used to live in Studio City to, you move out of town?


I did. My dad had Alz, and I came back to be with him.  Now my mother is 85 and my 62 year old brother has Alz.  I'm cursed.
 
2013-03-06 08:58:10 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


Because they offer things you can't get in bumfark Wisconsin, and not everyone likes the same stuff.

I'm from bumfark Ohio, recently moved to Chicago, and am moving to the Bay Area in the fall.  There's no way in hell you could ever drag me back to small-town living in a place like Wisconsin.  I understand the appeal, it's just not for me.  Wisconsin also has the same huge disadvantage as Chicago and Ohio in that the weather is terrible.

The San Francisco Bay area is ideal for me.  I'm a Computer Engineer, and jobs are plentiful.  I love that you can have 260+ sunny days a year instead of 180 you get in the Midwest (200 is the country-wide average).  That's 2-3 additional months of sunny days a year.  As with most major cities, you have fantastic dining options.  One day you could be skiing on one of the best slopes in the country, and the next you could be out on the ocean surfing or laying on the beach, all without driving more than a couple hours from home.  You can take a few hour drive up to wine country for a relaxing weekend with a significant other.  Watch a game of one of the many professional and college sports teams (Even hockey!  Awesome). That's just to name a few, I could go on...

NY and every other major city has a list of unique attractions much like those.  If your primary interests are low cost of living and access to good schools, and none of the above interest you, then there's no reason to move to the SF Bay Area where it's much more expensive to live.  You have to set your own priorities.
 
2013-03-06 08:58:31 PM  
SurelyShirley:Yep, just being a dick. A dick who takes 2 seconds to find this.

Holy fark, that's nice.

Thanks!
 
2013-03-06 08:58:51 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: zabadu: Plus, you can take Sepulveda to almost anywhere.

Just avoid the Slauson Cutoff...


I already cut off my Slauson.
 
2013-03-06 09:00:22 PM  

MaliFinn: Dingleberry Dickwad: que.guero: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?

Because very few people dream of moving to Wisconsin...

SF/LA/NY/SEA are desirable because they are actual places -- opportunity abounds for most anyone who has the determination to make things happen.

Places like Wisconsin are where people end up, nothing personal..

Bwwahahahahahaha! You, I like you. If you want to call higher chances to get shot, mugged, ripped off, have your kids go to overcrowded schools and all the other problems you constantly hear about places like NY, LA,SF, etc opportunity, then I guess you're right. I'll grant you that in those places you don't have to deal with dipshiat backwoods bigoted rednecks as much as you would in WI, but still seems a small price to pay for lower cost of living and lack of the issues I mentioned.

NO DOUBT.  People say they want to live in California, and then they spend all their money trying to get what we have for free in small-town Wisconsin.
- I have an IT job with a good wage and full health coverage.  My commute is five minutes, with a WalMart in between.
- My kids have no problems with schools.  If I have an issue, I walk over to the Principal's house and say 'hi.'
- Our crime consists of angry neighbors fighting over fences, and drunks.  Mostly drunks.
- I don't get litterbugs or vagrants in my yard, but on rare occasions, deer.
- No 'gated neighborhoods' or 'homeowners' associations'. My neighbors are two churches, a county sheriff, and a retired doctor.  When a pet runs free in our neighborhood we recognize it and call the owner to tell them which way it ran.
- Guns aren't ...


But it's Wisconsin.
 
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