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2013-03-06 05:49:56 PM

zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?


In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass
 
2013-03-06 05:50:01 PM

bunner: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

I have a theory that the amount of crap people are expected to put up with to live someplace desirable makes it undesirable.


Case in point... Leaving Florida, been her 12 years after escaping the cold a$$ north.  Heading back home in 2 years after I finish this contract.  Florida is fun,
but toooo farkin weird. Out grew my willingness to put up with B.S. for a hot girl with tight a$$ in a bikini. Just isn't worth it anymore.
 
2013-03-06 05:50:02 PM
Pay your farkng bill or get out... That simple... You have been asked to move out so repairs can be made and refused.... Quit biatching and move to a better option (if there is one, your stupid ass is staying put for a reason)

/GO HOME, I'm sure it's better there....
 
2013-03-06 05:50:25 PM

spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.


To be fair, in California, once the taxes finish eating you alive, you have to make $36K just to make rent on a terribad 1 BR in a sketchy area.

/My boss spends more in rent than I take home in a year.
//But that's okay, because if I rented my own place, I'd spend half my pay on rent.
 
2013-03-06 05:50:28 PM

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO
 
2013-03-06 05:50:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBCbMPWbMx4

Obligatory.

Video.

one NSFW word.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:07 PM
THIS, is diversity:


The 2010 United States Census reported that Oceanside had a population of 167,086. The population density was 3,961.8 people per square mile (1,529.7/km²). The racial makeup of Oceanside was 109,020 (65.2%) White, 7,873 (4.7%) African American, 1,385 (0.8%) Native American, 11,081 (6.6%) Asian (3.4% Filipino, 0.7% Japanese, 0.7% Vietnamese, 0.6% Chinese, 0.4% Korean, 0.2% Indian), 2,144 (1.3%) Pacific Islander, 25,886 (15.5%) from other races, and 9,697 (5.8%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 59,947 persons (35.9%). Among the Hispanic population, 31.3% Mexican, 1.0% Puerto Rican, and 0.4% Salvadoran.



But what percentage of them were Marines?
Probably about 40-60%.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:23 PM

spiderpaz: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

Santa Barbara.  The company I used to work for there paid their secretaries $36k/year and they didn't require a college degree or anything.


Ah, SOUTHERN California.
Not in Northern California (except Bay Area) . Everywhere else is minimum.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:33 PM

zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?


In a chair. At a desk.  But that's not really important right now.
 
2013-03-06 05:51:44 PM
I moved out to a decent neighbourhood in Cali.  For $1200 we got a nice, clean, house in a great neighbourhood right nearby a university and a decent bit of industry and commercial activity.  It's spacey (the kitchen is a bit small but that's because we're a bit big), doesn't have problems, is bug-free, and there's very little crime in the area.

How about instead of buying shiatty apartments you get off your ass and find a decent place to live.
 
2013-03-06 05:52:23 PM
Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.



Culver City, El Segundo?
 
2013-03-06 05:52:47 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.


In most states the landlord wil evict you 15 days after the rent is not paid. The Sheriff's Dept. will be happy to do the eviction.

Placing your money in escrow is meaningless unless you get a court order FIRST mandating this arrangment to force the landlord to repair the apartment to get access to the rent held in escrow.  This will probably cost you many months rent in legal fees to obtain.
 
2013-03-06 05:52:50 PM
FTA : Golchin added, "I've made $10,000 in repairs. I've asked them to move out so we could make more repairs and they refused."

You dont have to ask. Just give them 30 days notice prior to the lease expiring that you want them out. If they're still around, file a UD and let the courts handle it.

Better yet, offer them a couple of hundred cash on handing over the unit... way cheaper than filing and serving.

That said, I doubt the place was a shiat hole when they moved in.

Your landlord isnt your cleaning lady.
 
2013-03-06 05:53:22 PM

Yogimus: zabadu: spiderpaz: To be fair, in California you can make $36k/ year just answering phones.

Really?  Where?

In CALIFORNIA.

/dumass


Excuse me, fake cop.  Where IN California.  Others understood.
 
2013-03-06 05:53:27 PM

cloud_van_dame: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.


Culver City, El Segundo?


if you see my wallet, lemme know?
 
2013-03-06 05:53:39 PM

spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?


in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.
 
2013-03-06 05:53:58 PM
they want you to move out of your own accord... eviction is a lengthy and expensive process. these people sound like bad tenants.

Rosas said things got bad a year and a half ago when they got their new landlords -- attorney Ali Golchin and his wife, Mahshid Hamidi, a doctor of family medicine.
In a just-filed lawsuit, Rosas said his landlords have let the apartment become uninhabitable, and when Rosas started withholding rent, he said he got a text from Golchin that read, "It is in your best interest not (to) get the courts or sheriff involved. They sometimes call immigration."

Golchin added, "I've made $10,000 in repairs. I've asked them to move out so we could make more repairs and they refused."


so, 1200 per month for a year and a half (18 months)... but they have been squatting withholding rent for at least some of that time... so lets say they actually paid 15 months rent. 15*1200=18000 in rent paid. less the 10k in repairs = 8000 in 18 months of "profit" but the property has become unintabitable...

So Mr. Rosas, you allowed the place where you and your mother live to become uninhabitable in just a year and a half?

no sympathy for bad tenants.
 
2013-03-06 05:54:00 PM
in before all the posters from flyover land claim you should move to the middle of the country and get a four bedroom house with a two car garage and a nice big yard for around $1,200 a month.
 
2013-03-06 05:54:11 PM

Marine1: "MISSOURI IS GREAT!".


Said no one ever.
 
2013-03-06 05:55:22 PM

skullkrusher: cloud_van_dame:

Culver City, El Segundo?

if you see my wallet, lemme know?


*shakes fist*

Sounds like quite the scenario
 
2013-03-06 05:55:38 PM
MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site



Damn, dude.  Either you or your spouse is going to be spending a fair amount of time on the LA freeways.

Better spring for some satellite radio.  Maybe trade in the car for a Volt or Prius.
 
2013-03-06 05:55:38 PM
How much is the LL charging the mice?
 
2013-03-06 05:56:57 PM

dumbobruni: spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?

in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.


I lived on the UWS and we had a decent sized 1 BR with a terrace in a doorman building for ~$2800 . That's was pretty much prevailing market price when we lived there. You want to live on CPW and 78th St, you're gonna pay a shiatload. It's not difficult to find more affordable, great places
 
2013-03-06 05:56:58 PM
Well I know I ALWAYS believe the tenants because they're usually so upstanding and respectful of other people's property. And I ESPECIALLY believe illegals.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:05 PM

zabadu: kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO


I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:09 PM

cman: Assholes


Agreed, they should be here legally.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:33 PM

busy chillin': skullkrusher: cloud_van_dame:

Culver City, El Segundo?

if you see my wallet, lemme know?

*shakes fist*

Sounds like quite the scenario


here we go...

/yo
 
2013-03-06 05:57:36 PM

kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe


That's a pretty big exaggeration. Sacramento isn't an hour away from SF or Tahoe. More like 3 hours. 5 if you hit the daily traffic on 80. It's the definition of "bedroom community" and while the housing is nice and cheap (relatively), unless you got 3 kids tying up your time and never had a hope of having a social life, it's really not that exciting of a place to be.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:57 PM
Best SoCal apartment I ever had was illegal.
 
2013-03-06 05:59:52 PM

enik: Well I know I ALWAYS believe the tenants because they're usually so upstanding and respectful of other people's property. And I ESPECIALLY believe illegals.


how can I 'splain it? I'll take you frame by frame it

/90s in the hizzy
 
2013-03-06 06:00:03 PM

skullkrusher: dumbobruni: spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?

in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.

I lived on the UWS and we had a decent sized 1 BR with a terrace in a doorman building for ~$2800 . That's was pretty much prevailing market price when we lived there. You want to live on CPW and 78th St, you're gonna pay a shiatload. It's not difficult to find more affordable, great places


compared to the rents i'm seeing in Cobble Hill these days....that seems like a great deal.

/love and equally hate NYC
 
2013-03-06 06:01:36 PM

kiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.



Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?
 
2013-03-06 06:02:04 PM

dumbobruni: skullkrusher: dumbobruni: spman: gmikes: In NYC there would be a line around the block--many of whom would have bribe money/lubricant in hand--with folks vying for such a space

Wasn't there some article a few months back about people in Manhattan paying like $1500 a month to live in a 10X5 room that had about enough space for a cot and a desk?

in Manhattan, south of 42nd st (and parts of upper west side), yes. and in yuppie/hipster Brooklyn. and Long Island City (for some reason, don't a sk me why)

the rest of NYC, nope. unless you are really dumb.

I lived on the UWS and we had a decent sized 1 BR with a terrace in a doorman building for ~$2800 . That's was pretty much prevailing market price when we lived there. You want to live on CPW and 78th St, you're gonna pay a shiatload. It's not difficult to find more affordable, great places

compared to the rents i'm seeing in Cobble Hill these days....that seems like a great deal.

/love and equally hate NYC


yeah we locked in for 2 years right at the height of the crash. I am sure it's gone up since then. Had to give up the terrace and the doorman for an extra bedroom and bathroom for the bambino
 
2013-03-06 06:03:09 PM

rkiller1: cman: Assholes

Agreed, they should be here legally.


Funny, like a clown
 
2013-03-06 06:04:23 PM
Good, you have no legal right to be here anyway. You snuck in, then demand full rights as if they were owed to you. I do hope they grab your ass up and throw you across the border. You and your raghead ilk.

/amidoingitrite?
 
2013-03-06 06:04:30 PM
kiwimoogle84 Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Zabadu But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO



This.  Lived in Sacto for a few years. The weird combo of Asian/black/hispanic gang areas, white redneck trash, boring govt town and the fact the King just left.  Yeah, no thanks.
 
2013-03-06 06:05:17 PM

MaxxLarge: Serious question:

Wife and I just moved to LA a few weeks ago. We're staying with a friend near where I work until we can find a permanent place. And negotiating neighborhoods and rents is like Chinese algebra (in some cases LITERALLY, since some real estate listings are actually written in Chinese).

Can a native-type person let me know where I should be looking to live?

Difficulty:

1) Job is in City of Industry. Wife's job is in Redondo/Hermosa. Yeah, I know.
2) Need a single-family house with fenced yard, as we have a rescue Greyhound.
3) I can't live where there are bars on the windows. I want my parents to come visit.
4) $2,000-$2,200 would be a good rent window.
5) At least 2 bedrooms.

I don't mind a bit of a commute. Wife and I both have cars and solid work.

Anyone have any suggestions?

/fark is not your personal house-hunting site


Lakewood/Pico Rivera/Downey would work.  I lived in Long Beach for years (next to Lakewood), it's a pretty good hub, all the LA freeways radiate out of there because of the port.
 
2013-03-06 06:05:46 PM
I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month
 
2013-03-06 06:06:18 PM
Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?
 
2013-03-06 06:06:27 PM

Broktun: So, are they illegals or not?


/yes, the reporter said the scumbag lawyer and his wife were taking advantage of them due to their citizenship status. Which means, illegal.
 
2013-03-06 06:06:48 PM

Mikey1969: I have a 5 bedroom house with 2 family/bonus rooms(plus living room and dining room), 2 1/2 baths, 3,000 sq ft and a double car garage, that sits on about a quarter of an acre.

For $1500/month


/in Utah

location, location, location
 
2013-03-06 06:07:13 PM
I paid $600 a month in the bay area for 1/2 of a small bedroom in a one story house with eight other people living in it. Oh, and black mold. Lots of it. I found out the hard way that if you only see your land lord once a year, they're probably a slum lord.

/never again.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:08 PM

Marine1: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 350x244]

"Go on. Take it."


I love that skit so farking much...

/Along with 'Magic shoes'
 
2013-03-06 06:08:23 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, so here's what I don't get. From what I understand jobs don't really pay more in places like California, Seattle or New York, so why the fark is the cost of living so much higher, and why are houses so much more expensive? I've been told once that my simple little 2 bedroom house with a moderate sized back yard would sell for twice as much as it does around here in bumfark Wisconsin. What gives?


/It comes down to where you live. Here in illinois, out in the country, you buy a pack of smokes for 3 bucks and some change. In NY, its like 10 or more usd.  It depends on where you are.  You wanna live in Cali? You're going to pay through the nose.  Even for a shiathole place like in tfa.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:32 PM

jim32rr: rkiller1: cman: Assholes

Agreed, they should be here legally.

Funny, like a clown


Glad I amooze you.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:46 PM

kiwimoogle84: zabadu: kiwimoogle84: lockers: Rufus Lee King: It's pure racism. White people get to pay less for their apartments than minorities do.

What's really funny is that as a white person they rip up the check so it never affects your balance when you do pay rent. Paying for things is for minorities.

Paying for things is for minorities? Geez, as a hetero, average weight Caucasian female in her late 20's, I'm doing it wrong.

Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.


I beg to differ.

Paid less in rent in LA.
Less in utilities
Made more money at job
Lots of things to do
Downtown Sac is for hipsters and gangs
Try getting lox in Sacramento (that isn't in a package)
"What's a Jewish deli?"
Allergic to trees (they say if you live here more than 15 years, you will develop allergies to trees. I have)
Sacramento sucks.
 
2013-03-06 06:09:24 PM

SirEattonHogg: kiwimoogle84 Not to mention... MAYBE MOVE OUT OF LA. You can rent a nice 3bed house in Sacramento and the suburbs for $1,200 a month. I had a large 1bed with a walk in closet in a nice neighborhood for $725. So not all of California sucks for rent. Just the lower third.

/an hour away from both SF and Tahoe

Zabadu But then you have to live in Sacramento.

/raised in Sacramento
/lived in L.A for 10 years
/came back for sick father
/now has sick mother
/can't wait to leave this cowtown of a crap joint.

/SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO


This.  Lived in Sacto for a few years. The weird combo of Asian/black/hispanic gang areas, white redneck trash, boring govt town and the fact the King just left.  Yeah, no thanks.


There you go.
 
2013-03-06 06:09:48 PM

gblive: Sin_City_Superhero: Simple. Send the landlord a certified letter (costs about six bucks) stating that all future rent monies will be held in an escrow account until such time that all required repairs are satisfactorily completed. Then make sure to actually deposit every cent of the rent into that escrow account, on or before the date it's due. This shows the court that you, as a tenant, upheld your end of the rental agreement, and that you gave the landlord an opportunity to make good also.

In most states the landlord wil evict you 15 days after the rent is not paid. The Sheriff's Dept. will be happy to do the eviction.


I am not a lawyer, so take this with a grain of salt, but as I understand it, by placing the rent in an escrow account, you have paid the rent. By placing the money in escrow, you are demonstrating "good faith". You paid what you owe. You just paid it to a third party who won't release the funds until the property is "habitable" as defined by local ordinance.
 
2013-03-06 06:10:53 PM

cloud_van_dame: kiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.


Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?


No, and your beautiful Victorian is a fire trap. We lose at least two a year to fire.  And you have bars on your windows, park on the street and have your stereo stolen.

But you can walk to get a cup of coffee.  Big deal.
 
2013-03-06 06:11:34 PM
cloud_van_damekiwimoogle84: /SF and Tahoe an hour away because you DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN SACRAMENTO

I don't mind it here. It's gorgeous, downtown is awesome, lots of trees, and it's home. And FAR less expensive than LA.


Downtown Sacramento is gorgeous and you can rent a beautiful Victorian for not much money. However, the crime rate is at near-Compton levels, at least it was in the 1980s. Has it improved?


Not when I was there in the late 90's.  Lived right next to Land Park.  Got to hear the sheriff ghetto bird doing runs over lovely Oak Park and noise of gunfire.   For a city the size of Sacramento, the crime news in the Sacramento Bee was pretty horrific.

To be fair, that was over a decade ago.  Maybe things are better?
 
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