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2013-03-06 06:01:46 PM  
6 votes:
i2.kym-cdn.com    YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON SERVER FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!
2013-03-06 05:14:43 PM  
5 votes:
Lessee....

1) an EA game
2) always-on DRM

Yep, if you bought it on release day, or preordered it, you may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
2013-03-06 04:53:10 PM  
5 votes:

cman: These kind of bugs are to be expected.

Yeah, they do farking suck; but the cloud computing revolution is gonna be like every other computing revolution, and that is full of bugs


It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.
2013-03-06 05:23:08 PM  
4 votes:

ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.


And that's the shame of it all really. Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?

Will everything we play in the future have to be hooked into our Facebook/Twitter Social Media Profile in order to run? I have to say I'll be amazed if after three decades of gaming the farking gaming industry finally kills my enjoyment of games by forcing everything online so they can kill GameStop.

I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

When I was the kids' age we played games completely contained on our cartridges damnit! We didn't have fancy online micro transactions and that's the way we liked it!
2013-03-06 05:02:36 PM  
4 votes:

Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.


Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).
2013-03-06 10:32:45 PM  
3 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: I've been playing EA games since the Commodore 64 days, and because of that i've been slow to condemn them for a number of bad moves in the last decade. But this marks the point where i'm going to be all "fark EA" from now on.


Electronic Arts was fantastic back then. One of the best publishers around, and undoubtedly the most creative and innovative of them all.

Younger gamers never believe me when I say that, but it's true. EA started its decline when Trip Hawkins left to found 3DO and it's been downhill ever since. I don't know if Will Wright is still there, but if so then Maxis can remain the last wee spark left. That's what happens when the creative people become too successful and need to bring in the money people to run things.

Those early games, they were absolutely breathtaking. They may not look like much to those used to the latest and flashiest but they're brilliantly conceived and offer genuinely unique experiences, which is a lot more than you can say for the vast majority of current titles.

www.c64-wiki.com
MULE

www.c64-wiki.de

Mail Order Monsters

www.c64-wiki.de

Seven Cities of Gold

www.c64-wiki.de
www.c64-wiki.de

Neuromancer

www.c64-wiki.de

Archon

www.c64-wiki.de
Murder on the Zinderneuf


And so many more. Watch the animations above then play them all.
2013-03-06 05:20:33 PM  
3 votes:
I've been playing EA games since the Commodore 64 days, and because of that i've been slow to condemn them for a number of bad moves in the last decade. But this marks the point where i'm going to be all "fark EA" from now on.
2013-03-06 05:12:44 PM  
3 votes:
Clock is ticking for these guys, it's not like there is a dearth of entertainment options to turn to. You lose the people that were actually interested enough to buy at launch and you're on the monorail to Failton Heights.
2013-03-06 04:55:58 PM  
3 votes:
Population cap of 200,000? I'm out.
2013-03-06 06:27:32 PM  
2 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).

If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.


Why bother trying to track one down?

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/simcity_2000_special_edition

The only issue I have with them is I have to call the bank to authorize the transaction since they're based in a foreign country.
2013-03-06 06:23:36 PM  
2 votes:

Smelly McUgly: Anyone foolish enough to pay sixty dollars for a game that they don't own and that they must play while always logged onto EA servers deserves this. Maybe people had an excuse for buying Diablo III, but after seeing the downside of all-intrusive DRM on that game, there is no reason that anyone should have bothered to do anything but pirate this game.


Pretty much.

I'm not going to pirate it, though, I'm just not going to play it. I still have SC 2000 that I bought off GoG.com for 5 bucks. It's fun, it works right, it works now, and it will work forever because it doesn't include "features" that realistically only exist as a mechanism for preventing me from playing what I paid for either by error or intent.

There are just too many classic and indie games available that aren't asking me to bend over and grab my ankles so a bunch of suits who never even like games to begin with can take turns riding me like a cheap whore as part of the EULA. I'll just go ahead and play them instead, thanks.

/ Skyrim is the only non-MMO PC game I've bought in years that wasn't indie or oldie
// gamers are stupid, stupid people though and will learn nothing from this just as they've learned nothing from any other massive DRM failure and corporate screwjob over the last decade
2013-03-06 05:49:31 PM  
2 votes:

kurr: The game is really fun, when you can play it. As for it being DRM, I'm inclined to disagree. The region level agent simulations are run on the EA servers. It's not Sim City 4.5, it's a wholly different game, to be honest. It's a very hard game, too. Which I like. Think more like Sim Manhattan instead of Sim Houston.


For someone that wants to play solo, there's no reason the games couldn't be hosted locally.

And a Sim game where I can't rain down disasters and reload an old save?  No, thanks.
2013-03-06 05:26:04 PM  
2 votes:

js34603: Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?


Thankfully, what's currently happening is an indie game revolution, as the big game developers lose their way.
2013-03-06 05:24:58 PM  
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).


If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.
2013-03-06 05:14:38 PM  
2 votes:

ThatGuyGreg: It's not a single player game anymore.


If you absolutely love Simcity 4 and Rush Hour, I can almost guarantee the more you learn about this newest iteration, the less you'll like.
2013-03-08 01:06:24 PM  
1 votes:

jack21221: ManhattanRedneck: I hope in the future that the "sandbox" mode could be offline...

NEVER going to happen.


And this is why piracy will win. Not because of money, but because of absolute deafness on the part of software companies when it comes to listening to consumer demands. Pirates aren't just ripping off products, the changes they are making creates a substantively better product. If I had a pirated copy of SimCity right now, I could play it, but like a chump, I gave money to EA for this... lesson learned.
2013-03-07 05:28:00 PM  
1 votes:

Edymnion: Klivian: Or a company could rent out some extra servers to handle the burden that comes with launch, and then once the initial traffic boom is over, migrate to other, permanent EA servers. But anticipating demand isn't something we should expect from a company, right?

So you're saying they should rent out servers, let people accumulate massive amounts of user data on those servers, then migrate all that data to another server while trying to educate people that the server they told everyone they were on no longer exists?


CLOUD COMPUTING DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!
2013-03-07 04:05:20 PM  
1 votes:

jack21221: Tax Boy: [i.imgur.com image 850x544]

Lol, is that real?


Not real, but it sure did get me to check Steam
2013-03-07 12:58:38 PM  
1 votes:

log_jammin: Barry McCackiner: Who cares who publishes a game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Arts#Criticism


From the link:

"On June 24, 2009, EA announced and formalized a change in its approach to preventing piracy of PC games. The company plans to drop all DRM from its games, replacing it with a traditional CD-key check."

What?
2013-03-07 09:36:59 AM  
1 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: I've been playing EA games since the Commodore 64 days, and because of that i've been slow to condemn them for a number of bad moves in the last decade. But this marks the point where i'm going to be all "fark EA" from now on.


I miss the old EA of the c64 days.  Seven cities of gold, archon, those games were my staples for a long time.
2013-03-07 08:04:47 AM  
1 votes:

Alonjar: Everybody biatching about the online requirement CLEARLY have no understanding of this new game.  It REQUIRES you to work successfully with your neighbors to advance, although you can be your own neighbor.  It really is a multiplayer game, not a single player game with DRM.

Its not SimCity 4 version 2.0.... but it IS a great game, if you bother to open your mind and learn what its all about.  You'd actually have to play it, and do so without bias, to understand though.

The server issues do suck.. but hey, what are ya gonna do.  They'll fix it.


EA has pulled online support from several games I own, well within the lifetime of the game, often after just a year or two. So no, I don't want to drop $60 on an online-only game that will probably be unplayable (literally, as in you cannot play it) in 2015.

Always-on DRM is not new to technology or the gaming industry, so it's disappointing they can't get it right. Would you buy a car from people who have proven themselves to be royal farkwits time and time again? If they can't get this right, even after having multiple tries, it just speaks to the general levels of incompetence in their organization.

Valve had one major hiccup that I can remember, and that was with Half-Life 2, and they fixed it for their next major release after that. EA has a consistent pattern of failures and anti-consumer policies at this point.
2013-03-07 07:22:20 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Breeze: So anyway, is Sim City 4 worth it?


Yes, as long as you have the Rush Hour expansion.  The sims are very picky about commute times, and while Rush Hour adds a lot of ways to help that out, they still tend to be pretty stupid about choosing the most effective means of transportation.  But there's a really excellent mod called NAM (can't remember exactly what it stands for) that fixes all of that.  It's really easy to install, and it's very customizable while doing a very good job of explaining what changes each option makes to the game, so it's easy to tailor to your interests.  But even without the mod it's still the best of the series except for possibly SC2K.
2013-03-07 06:35:19 AM  
1 votes:
I almost bought this, until I read the amazon reviews. When a day after release the game has 25 positive (4+ star) reviews, and 290+ 1 star reviews, then there's a problem. I LoL'd.

So anyway, is Sim City 4 worth it?
2013-03-07 04:37:15 AM  
1 votes:

No Line For Beer: This reminds me of my experience buy The Muppets on Blu-Ray.  I bought the package with the digital copy included and after six hours of fighting the DRM to play the damn thing on my Video player, I just downloaded it illegally.  Next time I want a Disney film perhaps I'll just skip the part where I give them money.

DRM should never interfere with the paying customer.


The problem being it nearly always does - except for games that are crap that you never want to play again in the future. DRM is over 90% of the problems installing and playing old games on a new operating system (this is probably why GOG works so well - if you can strip the DRM out, the vast majority of compatability issues go away just by that one step alone. Steam I can live with just because it is massively in their financial interest to ensure things keep working on all new systems.
2013-03-07 04:23:55 AM  
1 votes:

potterydove: You can't play skyrim in offline mode?


You do have to have verified credentials (a saved cookie) to use Steam in offline mode, and it does expire. If your computer has multiple accounts or you're habitually paranoid about saved passwords, you may not be use offline functionality without some forethought.
2013-03-07 04:18:27 AM  
1 votes:

Al!: Fluorescent Testicle: scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).

If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.

Except I can't play Skyrim because I don't have the internet atm, meaning I can't log into Steam.  Single player games should be able to be played without an internet connection.  I started a new guy on Oblivion before I got bored and loaded up Neverwinter Nights 2.  I have a large box filled with one player games that I can still play and a small pile of one player games that I can't play because they want me on the internet so they can make sure I'm not a thief.


You can't play skyrim in offline mode?
2013-03-07 03:19:06 AM  
1 votes:
I think i figured out how i was able to play earlier. Managed to get a city loaded before the servers went down, and could play on that while the servers went up and down all they wanted, but when i went to region view and tried to load a new city the server went down during loading, which quit the game. I just got it to load my first city again, so any of you who can't get in might have a chance if you keep trying, and can load a city between server crashes.
2013-03-07 02:34:20 AM  
1 votes:

Lsherm: Are you playing it by yourself?


Going by the article, he, and many many others, aren't playing t all.
2013-03-07 02:29:39 AM  
1 votes:
This makes me glad the Ultima VI project just got finished.

/No, I don't need an Internet connection to play it
//And play it I am
2013-03-07 02:03:07 AM  
1 votes:

saintstryfe: js34603: I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

Diablo is different. The one-player, single-run story campaign is, really, about 8 hours long. The reason people play is to grind out fantastic gear and to fight the very very hard enemies toward the end of the game. THe always-on part is to prevent cheating in this much more competitive format. Item cloning runined D2 for a long time.

miniflea: Answers the question I came into this thread to ask.  Is this a steam-like service, or does it let you download a fully functional game with no DRM?

Fully functional, no DRM, and even includes a DOSBOX wrapper so it will run right on any modern computer. Even intel Macs.


Thanks to all who mentioned gog.  The game is downloaded and I've already lost three cities to bankruptcy.  Back in the day I never tried starting with a ten thousand dollar bond but I'm determined to crack this.  I love how all the little things come back to me after so many years.  Glorious.
2013-03-06 10:19:51 PM  
1 votes:

kurr: The game is really fun, when you can play it. As for it being DRM, I'm inclined to disagree. The region level agent simulations are run on the EA servers. It's not Sim City 4.5, it's a wholly different game, to be honest. It's a very hard game, too. Which I like. Think more like Sim Manhattan instead of Sim Houston.


Yeah, except Manhattan has more than 200,000 people in it.

madgonad: I would have gotten SC4 right now if the price was under $10. It is a flipping 10 year old game. I actually already own it, but like you - I have no idea where the disk is.


I wonder if they jacked the price up just before the launch of this new "Sim City" to cash in on people that want a true SimCity experience, not this social media infested nightmare.  Honestly I think you'd be morally justified in just downloading it from pirate bay, you already own it.
2013-03-06 10:06:34 PM  
1 votes:
I'm pretty bitter with EA since they farked up Mass Effect 3. I had come to terms with it and thought i might go back and purchase some of the DLC, but I'll be farked if I'm going to spend 40 bucks for 3 sets of side missions.
2013-03-06 10:04:05 PM  
1 votes:

js34603: I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.


Diablo is different. The one-player, single-run story campaign is, really, about 8 hours long. The reason people play is to grind out fantastic gear and to fight the very very hard enemies toward the end of the game. THe always-on part is to prevent cheating in this much more competitive format. Item cloning runined D2 for a long time.

miniflea: Answers the question I came into this thread to ask.  Is this a steam-like service, or does it let you download a fully functional game with no DRM?


Fully functional, no DRM, and even includes a DOSBOX wrapper so it will run right on any modern computer. Even intel Macs.
2013-03-06 10:03:07 PM  
1 votes:

Kuroshin: Arumat: Fluorescent Testicle: scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).

If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.

Why bother trying to track one down?

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/simcity_2000_special_edition

The only issue I have with them is I have to call the bank to authorize the transaction since they're based in a foreign country.

Funnel the transaction through PayPal.  AMEX refused a payment once to GOG because I had just made one less than five minutes prior (bought one batch of games, then realized I forgot a few).  It really was a simple phone call to AMEX, and their CS is always top-notch (and I prefer they keep their anti-fraud practices), but in order to avoid future hassles, I just started paying through PP.

I know they lose a cut of the sale, but like you I really don't fancy calling up the bank any time I get spend-thrifty.


While I'm aware that PayPal is an option, I'd honestly prefer to make the phone call.  I dislike PayPal immensely and won't give them a cent unless I have absolutely no alternative.
2013-03-06 09:04:53 PM  
1 votes:

jack21221: ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.

It clearly is a single player game. They threw in some minor optional multiplayer components, but it's still possible to play completely solo. The only reason this line "it's not a single player game" is being spread is because EA is making that bald assertion. Most of the components of this game are single player. Other players don't get to roam around your city building shiat. They're not going to declare war on your city and invade.


Why would anyone want to play this particular type of game with other people? Some games are just better as solitary experiences - and BTW - solitary experiences are getting way too rare these days. Every damn thing in life doesn't have to be "social".
2013-03-06 09:04:01 PM  
1 votes:

Karac: BafflerMeal: BG1 + BG2 + TuTu mod (run BG1 on BG2 engine) = a great retro buy.

They're actually selling that on Steam now.  Everything comes already set up, and they tossed in a new character or two and (I think) a new dungeon.



Actually it's a little more different than that. There's a few write ups here and there that explain it. The TuTu mod and a few other things not only port it to the new engine, but also fix a slew of bugs that have been there since forever. Plus if you buy them from GOG, one doesn't need steam and they give you a slew of extra stuff. Manuals, shortcut cards, development art, soundtracks, wallpapers, forum avatars, etc... Here's a discussion of the pros and cons:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/75251-baldurs-gate/64923323
2013-03-06 08:58:08 PM  
1 votes:
I don't buy games published by EA anymore. Don't care what it is, there are plenty of other games out there to play. They are fark tards that have draconian DRM systems, ruin good game development companies and keep trying to shovel unwanted "social networking" shiat down your throat at every chance they get.

Hey guys, here's an idea - give good game companies money to make games, spend money on marketing, and STAY THE fark AWAY from everything else because frankly, you suck at it. Suck at it very hard. In fact, the only thing that EA is good at is identifying good game developers that they want to ruin.

Please stop "helping".
2013-03-06 08:51:03 PM  
1 votes:
YOU WILL REGRET THIS
2013-03-06 08:18:03 PM  
1 votes:

BafflerMeal: BG1 + BG2 + TuTu mod (run BG1 on BG2 engine) = a great retro buy.


They're actually selling that on Steam now.  Everything comes already set up, and they tossed in a new character or two and (I think) a new dungeon.

scottydoesntknow: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).



I had the exact same experience with Heroes of Might and Magic 6.  I've bought and played the ever-loving hell out of 1 - 5, but 6 came with Ubisoft's always on DRM - and they couldn't keep their servers up.  What the farking point is online-only storage of saves on what is ONLY a single-player game?  That's when I started checking any new games for a Ubisoft logo - they'll never see another red cent out of me.

Their DRM might have stopped people from pirating HOMM 6, but it also stopped people from evey buying HOMM 7.
2013-03-06 07:18:41 PM  
1 votes:
2013-03-06 07:13:16 PM  
1 votes:

TheOriginalEd: Do the needful:
Which leads to my question, who cares? There are already more games out there than one could play in a lifetime, or a hundred lifetimes. Hell I was poking around in a couple of boxes the other day and found my usb Wingman controllers, and then decided that I would fire up my Atari 800 emulator. My wife and I were playing a game of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves for a couple of hours. She had never played the game and was having a great time once we got it rolling. I have boxes full of games just for that system alone. They could stop making games right this second and I still have enough games laying around the house to keep me from ever leaving the house again until I am dead.

Yes, by all means, enough books have been written, enough movies have been made, enough television series have run their course . Why strive for anything better or different ever again when we and all further generations can sit back and bludgeon ourselves with nostalgia. Idiot.


A game that doesn't work isn't better.
2013-03-06 06:59:31 PM  
1 votes:
From that Bioshock DRM BS:

img.photobucket.com

bbsimg.ngfiles.com
pcbx.us
2013-03-06 06:55:56 PM  
1 votes:

soporific: Smelly McUgly: skozlaw: I still have SC 2000 that I bought off GoG.com for 5 bucks. It's fun, it works right, it works now, and it will work forever because it doesn't include "features" that realistically only exist as a mechanism for preventing me from playing what I paid for either by error or intent.

I love GoG. I just picked up Alpha Centauri complete with the Alien Crossfire add-on for five bucks total. No DRM, downloaded straight to my computer. 

I need to go back and play some of those mid-'90s, late-'90s, and early '00s PC games that I did not play because I had a dinky computer and was heavily a console gamer. I should really look around GoG.

Careful, the next thing you know you've got a game library with more games than you'll ever have time to play. And you'll keep checking back every day to see what's on sale and what they've added next. I also got Alpha Centauri from GOG, right after Quest for Glory, and I'm pretty sure System Shock 2 will soon be mine. And maybe Icewind Dale. Gog is one addictive website, though it has nothing on Steam. (those Steam sales are murder on your free time, but pretty merciful on your bank account.)

So yeah, this once more confirms why the only places I shop for games online are GOG, Steam, and HumbleBundle. You can keep your always on DRM.



BG1 + BG2 + TuTu mod (run BG1 on BG2 engine) = a great retro buy.
2013-03-06 06:22:57 PM  
1 votes:

BumpInTheNight: I'd laugh my ass off if steam released their weekly sales numbers for Simcity 4 and revealed it stomped all over the new Origin exclusive SimCity.  I would laugh very very hard.

/Already owned it but the Steam one was faster to buy and install then trying to remember where I kept that archaic tomb that we used to refer to as a "CD binder".


I would have gotten SC4 right now if the price was under $10. It is a flipping 10 year old game. I actually already own it, but like you - I have no idea where the disk is.
2013-03-06 06:11:25 PM  
1 votes:

Sergeant Grumbles: ThatGuyGreg: It's not a single player game anymore.

If you absolutely love Simcity 4 and Rush Hour, I can almost guarantee the more you learn about this newest iteration, the less you'll like.


I finally installed the NAM addon last night.

I should have used it YEARS ago.
2013-03-06 06:10:12 PM  
1 votes:

js34603: ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.

And that's the shame of it all really. Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?

Will everything we play in the future have to be hooked into our Facebook/Twitter Social Media Profile in order to run? I have to say I'll be amazed if after three decades of gaming the farking gaming industry finally kills my enjoyment of games by forcing everything online so they can kill GameStop.

I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

When I was the kids' age we played games completely contained on our cartridges damnit! We didn't have fancy online micro transactions and that's the way we liked it!


Which leads to my question, who cares? There are already more games out there than one could play in a lifetime, or a hundred lifetimes. Hell I was poking around in a couple of boxes the other day and found my usb Wingman controllers, and then decided that I would fire up my Atari 800 emulator. My wife and I were playing a game of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves for a couple of hours. She had never played the game and was having a great time once we got it rolling. I have boxes full of games just for that system alone. They could stop making games right this second and I still have enough games laying around the house to keep me from ever leaving the house again until I am dead.
2013-03-06 05:59:08 PM  
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Well, launching the client now and unable to connect.  I guess that I should expect to only play this game in the middle of the night when I should be sleeping.  Fark you EA.
2013-03-06 05:57:08 PM  
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NeoCortex42: And a Sim game where I can't rain down disasters and reload an old save?  No, thanks.


Wait, really? Isn't that the whole point of the game??
2013-03-06 05:52:31 PM  
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YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
2013-03-06 05:48:38 PM  
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The best part was when Origin's geolocation decided most of California wasn't part of the US, so users from there were locked out of their accounts.
2013-03-06 05:41:52 PM  
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The game is really fun, when you can play it. As for it being DRM, I'm inclined to disagree. The region level agent simulations are run on the EA servers. It's not Sim City 4.5, it's a wholly different game, to be honest. It's a very hard game, too. Which I like. Think more like Sim Manhattan instead of Sim Houston.
2013-03-06 05:38:48 PM  
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js34603: ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.

And that's the shame of it all really. Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?

Will everything we play in the future have to be hooked into our Facebook/Twitter Social Media Profile in order to run? I have to say I'll be amazed if after three decades of gaming the farking gaming industry finally kills my enjoyment of games by forcing everything online so they can kill GameStop.

I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

When I was the kids' age we played games completely contained on our cartridges damnit! We didn't have fancy online micro transactions and that's the way we liked it!


Indie developers are getting a larger and larger share of the market, and kick starter funded games are just starting to become reality. The days of the big game companies screwing over their consumers at every possible turn are coming to an end.

I was excited about the new Sim City until I heard more and more about the online only, social media scheme. Many of the options in previous versions of the game are missing. I'm sure that these will be added in latter as DLC. Why would I pay you full price for a basic game and then pay you for half a dozen DLC's just to get a whole game? I expected a complete working game for my sixty dollars. No thank you. You will not get my money today.

/maybe I'll try it in a year when the base game is free
 
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