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2013-03-06 09:25:07 PM

picturescrazy: BumpInTheNight: jack21221: BumpInTheNight: What's your EA authorized script got for this?:  Why does a "single player" game require an online connection in order to even play it let along try the optional mutlplayer component?

Fail.

What the fark? Did you actually read my post?

Just growing the echo chamber of "Single player should mean it doesn't need to be constantly connected to the internet".  Sorry if you are being caught in the wake.

I still get the feeling you didn't read the post you responded to in the first place.


Likely not, its just frustrating to watch the original franchise of the PC gaming platform turn into such a horrible mess, its pretty saddening to be honest.
 
2013-03-06 09:25:30 PM

picturescrazy: BumpInTheNight: jack21221: BumpInTheNight: What's your EA authorized script got for this?:  Why does a "single player" game require an online connection in order to even play it let along try the optional mutlplayer component?

Fail.

What the fark? Did you actually read my post?

Just growing the echo chamber of "Single player should mean it doesn't need to be constantly connected to the internet".  Sorry if you are being caught in the wake.

I still get the feeling you didn't read the post you responded to in the first place.


You're a bit of a stickler for proper procedure, aren't you? What's the fun in responding to posts (or articles) you've actually read? It robs the conversation of all it's nonsensical surreality.
 
2013-03-06 09:27:41 PM

jso2897: picturescrazy: BumpInTheNight: jack21221: BumpInTheNight: What's your EA authorized script got for this?:  Why does a "single player" game require an online connection in order to even play it let along try the optional mutlplayer component?

Fail.

What the fark? Did you actually read my post?

Just growing the echo chamber of "Single player should mean it doesn't need to be constantly connected to the internet".  Sorry if you are being caught in the wake.

I still get the feeling you didn't read the post you responded to in the first place.

You're a bit of a stickler for proper procedure, aren't you? What's the fun in responding to posts (or articles) you've actually read? It robs the conversation of all it's nonsensical surreality.


Oh don't worry. This is Fark after all. I almost never RTFA.
 
2013-03-06 09:30:29 PM

picturescrazy: jso2897: picturescrazy: BumpInTheNight: jack21221: BumpInTheNight: What's your EA authorized script got for this?:  Why does a "single player" game require an online connection in order to even play it let along try the optional mutlplayer component?

Fail.

What the fark? Did you actually read my post?

Just growing the echo chamber of "Single player should mean it doesn't need to be constantly connected to the internet".  Sorry if you are being caught in the wake.

I still get the feeling you didn't read the post you responded to in the first place.

You're a bit of a stickler for proper procedure, aren't you? What's the fun in responding to posts (or articles) you've actually read? It robs the conversation of all it's nonsensical surreality.

Oh don't worry. This is Fark after all. I almost never RTFA.


Look - I never said she had fake tits. I just said they look fake.
 
2013-03-06 09:37:23 PM

jso2897: picturescrazy: jso2897: picturescrazy: BumpInTheNight: jack21221: BumpInTheNight: What's your EA authorized script got for this?:  Why does a "single player" game require an online connection in order to even play it let along try the optional mutlplayer component?

Fail.

What the fark? Did you actually read my post?

Just growing the echo chamber of "Single player should mean it doesn't need to be constantly connected to the internet".  Sorry if you are being caught in the wake.

I still get the feeling you didn't read the post you responded to in the first place.

You're a bit of a stickler for proper procedure, aren't you? What's the fun in responding to posts (or articles) you've actually read? It robs the conversation of all it's nonsensical surreality.

Oh don't worry. This is Fark after all. I almost never RTFA.

Look - I never said she had fake tits. I just said they look fake.


Why are you bringing fartbama into this??
 
2013-03-06 10:02:20 PM
Is there a picture where a rider is riding a horse but strangling it trying to hold on too tightly and then being mad that the horse passes out and it doesn't get a free ride?

Cus I think I might want to plaster UBI/EA over the rider and video games on the horse.
 
2013-03-06 10:03:07 PM

Kuroshin: Arumat: Fluorescent Testicle: scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).

If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.

Why bother trying to track one down?

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/simcity_2000_special_edition

The only issue I have with them is I have to call the bank to authorize the transaction since they're based in a foreign country.

Funnel the transaction through PayPal.  AMEX refused a payment once to GOG because I had just made one less than five minutes prior (bought one batch of games, then realized I forgot a few).  It really was a simple phone call to AMEX, and their CS is always top-notch (and I prefer they keep their anti-fraud practices), but in order to avoid future hassles, I just started paying through PP.

I know they lose a cut of the sale, but like you I really don't fancy calling up the bank any time I get spend-thrifty.


While I'm aware that PayPal is an option, I'd honestly prefer to make the phone call.  I dislike PayPal immensely and won't give them a cent unless I have absolutely no alternative.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:05 PM

js34603: I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.


Diablo is different. The one-player, single-run story campaign is, really, about 8 hours long. The reason people play is to grind out fantastic gear and to fight the very very hard enemies toward the end of the game. THe always-on part is to prevent cheating in this much more competitive format. Item cloning runined D2 for a long time.

miniflea: Answers the question I came into this thread to ask.  Is this a steam-like service, or does it let you download a fully functional game with no DRM?


Fully functional, no DRM, and even includes a DOSBOX wrapper so it will run right on any modern computer. Even intel Macs.
 
2013-03-06 10:05:47 PM

Frederf: Is there a picture where a rider is riding a horse but strangling it trying to hold on too tightly and then being mad that the horse passes out and it doesn't get a free ride?

Cus I think I might want to plaster UBI/EA over the rider and video games on the horse.


To be truly accurate, you'd have to show the rider attempting force Facebook/Twitter logos up the horse's ass, with sign attached to each side of the saddle advertising sections of the still living horse that can be purchased with micro-transactions, with the head being the equivalent of on-disc dlc.  Oh, and after the horse finally does die, he releases a press release that the horse just couldn't meet sales projections, and had to be put down.
 
2013-03-06 10:06:34 PM
I'm pretty bitter with EA since they farked up Mass Effect 3. I had come to terms with it and thought i might go back and purchase some of the DLC, but I'll be farked if I'm going to spend 40 bucks for 3 sets of side missions.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:03 PM
it's kinda sad. When I built my new gaming PC, this was one of the games I was looking forward to trying after spending a very long time gaming on a Mac.

But I'm not gonna buy a game this universally reviled. Oh well, Diablo 3, WoW: Mists, Bastion, DCUO and Arkham City have enough play for me to limp through.

Oh, and all my emulated games on a nice big screen.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:51 PM

kurr: The game is really fun, when you can play it. As for it being DRM, I'm inclined to disagree. The region level agent simulations are run on the EA servers. It's not Sim City 4.5, it's a wholly different game, to be honest. It's a very hard game, too. Which I like. Think more like Sim Manhattan instead of Sim Houston.


Yeah, except Manhattan has more than 200,000 people in it.

madgonad: I would have gotten SC4 right now if the price was under $10. It is a flipping 10 year old game. I actually already own it, but like you - I have no idea where the disk is.


I wonder if they jacked the price up just before the launch of this new "Sim City" to cash in on people that want a true SimCity experience, not this social media infested nightmare.  Honestly I think you'd be morally justified in just downloading it from pirate bay, you already own it.
 
2013-03-06 10:20:57 PM
Diablo III was the last DRM "always-on" game I'm buying. Lesson learned.
 
2013-03-06 10:25:08 PM
Considered buying this.
Glad I didn't.
NO plans to get it now.
EA can take their internet only POS and shove it.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:44 PM
Four hours later I've managed to play 7 minutes of the tutorial before the server shiat the bed and crashed. At this point I'm wondering if EA actually does hate their customers. I run my own business and there are times of the year where I know I'm going to be extra busy and I have extra staff and equipment ready to go so that my customers aren't inconvenienced and (shocker!) I can make more money. The word is out about this crappy game experience and people are either skipping it or waiting rather than actually buying it unfortunately I had a whiff of nostalgia for a series that was one of the first PC games I ever played and saw the Maxis logo but overlooked the EA right on the cover.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:45 PM

J. Frank Parnell: I've been playing EA games since the Commodore 64 days, and because of that i've been slow to condemn them for a number of bad moves in the last decade. But this marks the point where i'm going to be all "fark EA" from now on.


Electronic Arts was fantastic back then. One of the best publishers around, and undoubtedly the most creative and innovative of them all.

Younger gamers never believe me when I say that, but it's true. EA started its decline when Trip Hawkins left to found 3DO and it's been downhill ever since. I don't know if Will Wright is still there, but if so then Maxis can remain the last wee spark left. That's what happens when the creative people become too successful and need to bring in the money people to run things.

Those early games, they were absolutely breathtaking. They may not look like much to those used to the latest and flashiest but they're brilliantly conceived and offer genuinely unique experiences, which is a lot more than you can say for the vast majority of current titles.

www.c64-wiki.com
MULE

www.c64-wiki.de

Mail Order Monsters

www.c64-wiki.de

Seven Cities of Gold

www.c64-wiki.de
www.c64-wiki.de

Neuromancer

www.c64-wiki.de

Archon

www.c64-wiki.de
Murder on the Zinderneuf


And so many more. Watch the animations above then play them all.
 
2013-03-06 10:36:02 PM
Well, after not being able to play for two days straight, I got a callback from EA and demanded a refund of my money and removed the game from my system.  Last EA product I attempt to buy.  Not even their sports games will be saved from my spite.
 
2013-03-06 10:37:33 PM

picturescrazy: jso2897: picturescrazy: jso2897: picturescrazy: BumpInTheNight: jack21221: BumpInTheNight: What's your EA authorized script got for this?:  Why does a "single player" game require an online connection in order to even play it let along try the optional mutlplayer component?

Fail.

What the fark? Did you actually read my post?

Just growing the echo chamber of "Single player should mean it doesn't need to be constantly connected to the internet".  Sorry if you are being caught in the wake.

I still get the feeling you didn't read the post you responded to in the first place.

You're a bit of a stickler for proper procedure, aren't you? What's the fun in responding to posts (or articles) you've actually read? It robs the conversation of all it's nonsensical surreality.

Oh don't worry. This is Fark after all. I almost never RTFA.

Look - I never said she had fake tits. I just said they look fake.

Why are you bringing fartbama into this??


Yeah, sure - like I'm going to pay 30,000 for a car that carries two people and goes 40 miles before I have to recharge it.
 
2013-03-06 10:44:20 PM

Special J: Diablo III was the last DRM "always-on" game I'm buying. Lesson learned.


This - to be fair, I am able to play and enjoy the game - but it's less fun than it's predecessor, and, since I prefer single player, just adds a layer of inconvenience I don't need - and we are talking about Blizzard, a company with a decade of solid success in mmorpg implementation. When every a-hole in the industry starts doing this crap, you get the Ubisoft debacle, and this here crap we are talking about right now.

When they got tired of supporting Diablo, I still had my single-player games. When they do the same with Diablo 2, I'll still have my games. But when they tire of supporting Diablo 3, I'll have nothing.
I'll never buy another always on game.
 
2013-03-06 10:47:16 PM
Is this some new Sim City? And it relies on a Cloud to even play it?

This is why I don't buy games in "The Cloud".. When doomsday arrives and the internet goes away every game I have on Steam is playable in offline mode.
 
2013-03-06 10:47:19 PM

Gordon Bennett: J. Frank Parnell: I've been playing EA games since the Commodore 64 days, and because of that i've been slow to condemn them for a number of bad moves in the last decade. But this marks the point where i'm going to be all "fark EA" from now on.

Electronic Arts was fantastic back then. One of the best publishers around, and undoubtedly the most creative and innovative of them all.

Younger gamers never believe me when I say that, but it's true. EA started its decline when Trip Hawkins left to found 3DO and it's been downhill ever since. I don't know if Will Wright is still there, but if so then Maxis can remain the last wee spark left. That's what happens when the creative people become too successful and need to bring in the money people to run things.

Those early games, they were absolutely breathtaking. They may not look like much to those used to the latest and flashiest but they're brilliantly conceived and offer genuinely unique experiences, which is a lot more than you can say for the vast majority of current titles.

[www.c64-wiki.com image 384x272]
MULE

[www.c64-wiki.de image 384x272]

Mail Order Monsters

[www.c64-wiki.de image 384x272]

Seven Cities of Gold

[www.c64-wiki.de image 384x272]
[www.c64-wiki.de image 384x272]

Neuromancer

[www.c64-wiki.de image 320x200]

Archon

[www.c64-wiki.de image 384x258]
Murder on the Zinderneuf


And so many more. Watch the animations above then play them all.


Wahaha Archon.
Round 1 (black first): teleport shape changer to unicorn.
Round 2 (white went first): teleport shape changer to unicorn.
 
2013-03-06 10:56:59 PM
 
2013-03-06 11:07:03 PM

NeoCortex42: And a Sim game where I can't rain down disasters and reload an old save?  No, thanks.

 
2013-03-06 11:15:00 PM
jso2897: Agreed. The auction house is my other big problem with that game. Drops for your level were crap, but there was great stuff to be had for just a few gold.  One of the best parts: loot farming got reduced to simply gold farming.  Even the loot you find was more useful to you being sold for gold to buy something that was actually good.  And then there's Blizzard's motive for crappy drops: RMT.
 
2013-03-06 11:22:39 PM

Special J: Diablo III was the last DRM "always-on" game I'm buying. Lesson learned.


This right here.
 
2013-03-06 11:32:22 PM
Well, the servers were up for quite awhile since this, but were crashing pretty regularly. Wasn't a big deal because they came back up before you got kicked from the game. Now the servers have died completely, and EA hasn't commented on any of it.

I did have more fun playing it than i did yesterday, for what that's worth. Was just about to start a new city with everything i learned from my first when NO GAME FOR YOU.
 
2013-03-07 12:37:12 AM
I'm thinking that instead of SimCity I'll instead purchase the new XCOM: Enemy Unknown for my PS3.

/now we need a new railroad tycoon
 
2013-03-07 12:48:35 AM

J. Frank Parnell: Well, the servers were up for quite awhile since this, but were crashing pretty regularly. Wasn't a big deal because they came back up before you got kicked from the game. Now the servers have died completely, and EA hasn't commented on any of it.

I did have more fun playing it than i did yesterday, for what that's worth. Was just about to start a new city with everything i learned from my first when NO GAME FOR YOU.


Lucky you. I bought it yesterday after work and still haven't played a single minute of it. I get the message saying "Your game is ready to play," but when I start, it just get kicked back to the main screen with the "Unable to connect to SimCity servers. Please try again" message.
 
2013-03-07 12:49:49 AM
What a shame. I was going to buy this the day before it came out and then remembered this was an EA online only game and thought I would wait a couple days. Boy am I glad I have waited. Even now, with all the reviews, I'm probably going to put off buying it for a couple months. See if they add in larger maps and work out the bugs. Downside is I'm sure the larger maps will cost an extra 20 bucks. At that point, I probably won't care anymore and will wait even longer for the prices to drop.

Looks like I'll be waiting till Bioshock Infinite to buy a new game.
 
2013-03-07 01:25:47 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to get a refund after buying the game on Origin because I'm getting really fed up with this server BS.
 
2013-03-07 01:26:02 AM
Glad to see so many finally joining me on the "F*ck EA" bandwagon. I've been here since Madden was cancelled on PC and they turned Spore into a joke.  Are you listening EA/Ubisoft/Blizzard?  Firaxis/2K, Sega, Bethesda and Chris Roberts all got my money...you did not.  Can you figure out why?

Hint: It's not because I don't want to play SimCity, I've played every incarnation UNTIL this one.
 
2013-03-07 01:43:30 AM
ct.fra.bz
 
2013-03-07 01:50:01 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.


Hope you still have a floppy drive - my copy of SC2K comes on two 3.5in floppies.
 
2013-03-07 01:53:53 AM
Man there is a lot of butt hurt nerds in this thread.  There is no hate quite like nerd hate.

In about a week this will all blow over and you will be able to play sim city until your heart is content.  Will you be able to play it in 15 years?  I dunno who gives a shiat.  None of this crap has anything to do with the GAME itself.  And the game itself is quite fun.
 
2013-03-07 01:54:31 AM
At first I was like, "Oooh, new SimCity!"  Then I saw the DRM and was like, "Pass."

I am completely disinclined to pay sixty bucks for an EA game that put more effort into making sure I'd be more inconvenienced than entertained.

... especially when I can drop a lot less cash and get in on the wonderful work-in-progress of Blockscape.

/Yeah, that's a real old build
//Lotta progress since then
 
2013-03-07 02:03:07 AM

saintstryfe: js34603: I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

Diablo is different. The one-player, single-run story campaign is, really, about 8 hours long. The reason people play is to grind out fantastic gear and to fight the very very hard enemies toward the end of the game. THe always-on part is to prevent cheating in this much more competitive format. Item cloning runined D2 for a long time.

miniflea: Answers the question I came into this thread to ask.  Is this a steam-like service, or does it let you download a fully functional game with no DRM?

Fully functional, no DRM, and even includes a DOSBOX wrapper so it will run right on any modern computer. Even intel Macs.


Thanks to all who mentioned gog.  The game is downloaded and I've already lost three cities to bankruptcy.  Back in the day I never tried starting with a ten thousand dollar bond but I'm determined to crack this.  I love how all the little things come back to me after so many years.  Glorious.
 
2013-03-07 02:04:23 AM

Barry McCackiner: Man there is a lot of butt hurt nerds in this thread.  There is no hate quite like nerd hate.

In about a week this will all blow over and you will be able to play sim city until your heart is content.  Will you be able to play it in 15 years?  I dunno who gives a shiat.  None of this crap has anything to do with the GAME itself.  And the game itself is quite fun.


I don't plan to get or play the game myself but I can totally understand why everybody's ticked off.  It'd be like buying a shiny new car from a dealership, except it won't start.  Turns out the fuel pump is defective, the dealership doesn't have a replacement on hand, and the warranty won't cover having anybody else do the work.

/I'm aware the scale of the money involved is quite different
//knows the joy of getting a shiny new game to play
///knows the agony of having to jump through hoops to get it to work
////4th slashie because I can
 
2013-03-07 02:11:54 AM
I'd play a stolen, hacked copy.  Otherwise...no.
 
2013-03-07 02:19:48 AM

ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.


Are you playing it by yourself?

That's what I thought.

Second question:  are you farking retarded?
 
2013-03-07 02:22:31 AM

Surool: Hey guys, way to f*ck up your launch! With that "not allowed to play without and internet connection" DRM of yours, I'm glad.


This is crap. Diablo 3 and now this. The only farking games I've played in the last decade.

I guess I'll go back to solitaire.
 
2013-03-07 02:29:31 AM
Well, it's good that the single save that you are allowed to have is on their servers and you know from history that EA never shuts down those servers.
 
2013-03-07 02:29:39 AM
This makes me glad the Ultima VI project just got finished.

/No, I don't need an Internet connection to play it
//And play it I am
 
2013-03-07 02:34:20 AM

Lsherm: Are you playing it by yourself?


Going by the article, he, and many many others, aren't playing t all.
 
2013-03-07 03:12:03 AM
EA is fixing the problem? Why would they do that - they already have your money.

Anyone saying that they're glad it's not like this on consoles... I think everyone's in for an unpleasant surprise when the PS4 / Xbox 720 come out.
 
2013-03-07 03:19:06 AM
I think i figured out how i was able to play earlier. Managed to get a city loaded before the servers went down, and could play on that while the servers went up and down all they wanted, but when i went to region view and tried to load a new city the server went down during loading, which quit the game. I just got it to load my first city again, so any of you who can't get in might have a chance if you keep trying, and can load a city between server crashes.
 
2013-03-07 04:10:40 AM

Arumat: I don't plan to get or play the game myself but I can totally understand why everybody's ticked off.  It'd be like buying a shiny new car from a dealership, except it won't start.  Turns out the fuel pump is defective, the dealership doesn't have a replacement on hand, and the warranty won't cover having anybody else do the work.

/I'm aware the scale of the money involved is quite different
//knows the joy of getting a shiny new game to play
///knows the agony of having to jump through hoops to get it to work
////4th slashie because I can


I want to play as well.  I'm not happy about it.  I just played another game tonight instead.  Like a lot of people have said, there are tons of games to play.  People are getting nuts though, swearing off all DRM games forever, boycotting EA, etc.  Who cares who publishes a game?  If I want to play a game I just play it.  Do I expect live launches to always go as planned?  I've been playing online games for 20 years, I've never seen a single live launch that went well.  Why should Sim City be any different?  Yes if it didn't have online only it wouldn't be a problem.  OK, so you add a week onto the release date.  The game is not going anywhere.  60 bucks is nothing when I know I will spend at least 60 hours playing it no problem.
 
2013-03-07 04:18:27 AM

Al!: Fluorescent Testicle: scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).

If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.

Except I can't play Skyrim because I don't have the internet atm, meaning I can't log into Steam.  Single player games should be able to be played without an internet connection.  I started a new guy on Oblivion before I got bored and loaded up Neverwinter Nights 2.  I have a large box filled with one player games that I can still play and a small pile of one player games that I can't play because they want me on the internet so they can make sure I'm not a thief.


You can't play skyrim in offline mode?
 
2013-03-07 04:23:47 AM
like a few have mentioned up thread, i also got a new PC in like august of 2011. i missed out on a lot of games between 2005 and 2011, sim city 4 not being one i missed out on. sim city 4 is awesome. anywho, last saturday i went to best buy to see what games they had, actually i went to buy a 100 dollar steam card, i ended up buying doom 3 bfg edition. it came with doom and doom II, well worth the 20 bucks. doom 1 & 2 aren't the best graphics but they are still awesome 20 years later. i was expecting doom 3 to be more like hell than a station on mars but it is still fun to play so far.

since i got a newer pc 1.5 years ago i have probably bought 50+ games.

i almost bought gta: san andreas off steam today. i may wait to finish doom 3 first. i still haven't spent 5 minutes in gta iv. and still need to finish metro 2033.
 
2013-03-07 04:23:55 AM

potterydove: You can't play skyrim in offline mode?


You do have to have verified credentials (a saved cookie) to use Steam in offline mode, and it does expire. If your computer has multiple accounts or you're habitually paranoid about saved passwords, you may not be use offline functionality without some forethought.
 
2013-03-07 04:30:24 AM
 
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