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(Kotaku)   One day after launch, SimCity is still missing a power plant   (kotaku.com) divider line 213
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2013-03-06 04:45:44 PM
These kind of bugs are to be expected.

Yeah, they do farking suck; but the cloud computing revolution is gonna be like every other computing revolution, and that is full of bugs
 
2013-03-06 04:53:10 PM

cman: These kind of bugs are to be expected.

Yeah, they do farking suck; but the cloud computing revolution is gonna be like every other computing revolution, and that is full of bugs


It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.
 
2013-03-06 04:54:54 PM
media.yourdailymedia.com
 
2013-03-06 04:55:58 PM
Population cap of 200,000? I'm out.
 
2013-03-06 05:02:36 PM

Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.


Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).
 
2013-03-06 05:08:03 PM

Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.


It's not a single player game anymore.
 
2013-03-06 05:12:44 PM
Clock is ticking for these guys, it's not like there is a dearth of entertainment options to turn to. You lose the people that were actually interested enough to buy at launch and you're on the monorail to Failton Heights.
 
2013-03-06 05:14:38 PM

ThatGuyGreg: It's not a single player game anymore.


If you absolutely love Simcity 4 and Rush Hour, I can almost guarantee the more you learn about this newest iteration, the less you'll like.
 
2013-03-06 05:14:43 PM
Lessee....

1) an EA game
2) always-on DRM

Yep, if you bought it on release day, or preordered it, you may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 
2013-03-06 05:15:21 PM
Will the old ones work on a win 8 pc?

or android or ios?
 
2013-03-06 05:20:33 PM
I've been playing EA games since the Commodore 64 days, and because of that i've been slow to condemn them for a number of bad moves in the last decade. But this marks the point where i'm going to be all "fark EA" from now on.
 
2013-03-06 05:23:08 PM

ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.


And that's the shame of it all really. Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?

Will everything we play in the future have to be hooked into our Facebook/Twitter Social Media Profile in order to run? I have to say I'll be amazed if after three decades of gaming the farking gaming industry finally kills my enjoyment of games by forcing everything online so they can kill GameStop.

I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

When I was the kids' age we played games completely contained on our cartridges damnit! We didn't have fancy online micro transactions and that's the way we liked it!
 
2013-03-06 05:24:58 PM

scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).


If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.
 
2013-03-06 05:26:04 PM

js34603: Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?


Thankfully, what's currently happening is an indie game revolution, as the big game developers lose their way.
 
2013-03-06 05:30:06 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: [words]


... I love that in trying to stop the second-hand game market, they're pushing people towards it instead.

images.sodahead.com
 
2013-03-06 05:35:35 PM
Hey guys, way to f*ck up your launch! With that "not allowed to play without and internet connection" DRM of yours, I'm glad.
 
2013-03-06 05:38:48 PM

js34603: ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.

And that's the shame of it all really. Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?

Will everything we play in the future have to be hooked into our Facebook/Twitter Social Media Profile in order to run? I have to say I'll be amazed if after three decades of gaming the farking gaming industry finally kills my enjoyment of games by forcing everything online so they can kill GameStop.

I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

When I was the kids' age we played games completely contained on our cartridges damnit! We didn't have fancy online micro transactions and that's the way we liked it!


Indie developers are getting a larger and larger share of the market, and kick starter funded games are just starting to become reality. The days of the big game companies screwing over their consumers at every possible turn are coming to an end.

I was excited about the new Sim City until I heard more and more about the online only, social media scheme. Many of the options in previous versions of the game are missing. I'm sure that these will be added in latter as DLC. Why would I pay you full price for a basic game and then pay you for half a dozen DLC's just to get a whole game? I expected a complete working game for my sixty dollars. No thank you. You will not get my money today.

/maybe I'll try it in a year when the base game is free
 
2013-03-06 05:41:52 PM
The game is really fun, when you can play it. As for it being DRM, I'm inclined to disagree. The region level agent simulations are run on the EA servers. It's not Sim City 4.5, it's a wholly different game, to be honest. It's a very hard game, too. Which I like. Think more like Sim Manhattan instead of Sim Houston.
 
2013-03-06 05:43:20 PM
STOP BEING SO ENTITLED YOU ENTITLED BUMS

YOU ENTITLED ENTITLEDS
 
2013-03-06 05:48:02 PM
The last EA/Maxis game I bought at launch was Spore.

I won't be buying a Maxis game at launch ever again.  Not until the dust has settled and there's a consensus in the reviews.  Talk about a disappointing game.

I was excited about a new SimCity, but the more I hear about it, the less I want to spend money on it.
 
2013-03-06 05:48:38 PM
The best part was when Origin's geolocation decided most of California wasn't part of the US, so users from there were locked out of their accounts.
 
2013-03-06 05:49:31 PM

kurr: The game is really fun, when you can play it. As for it being DRM, I'm inclined to disagree. The region level agent simulations are run on the EA servers. It's not Sim City 4.5, it's a wholly different game, to be honest. It's a very hard game, too. Which I like. Think more like Sim Manhattan instead of Sim Houston.


For someone that wants to play solo, there's no reason the games couldn't be hosted locally.

And a Sim game where I can't rain down disasters and reload an old save?  No, thanks.
 
2013-03-06 05:50:05 PM

ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.


Its clearly no longer part of the SimCity series either, but here we are.
 
2013-03-06 05:52:31 PM
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
 
2013-03-06 05:55:25 PM
I think the saddest thing I'm reading is that your city is only saved to their servers - you can't just smite the city when you feeling peevish IRL then go back and reload - can anyone confirm that you pretty much get one pass at these things?
 
2013-03-06 05:57:08 PM

NeoCortex42: And a Sim game where I can't rain down disasters and reload an old save?  No, thanks.


Wait, really? Isn't that the whole point of the game??
 
2013-03-06 05:57:17 PM

BumpInTheNight: ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.

Its clearly no longer part of the SimCity series either, but here we are.


Its not SimCity 5, its SimCity.  Its the gritty reboot where they don't use a number but the same title of the original.  The rules have changed.

The problem with doing that is that there was a lot of people out there who wanted SimCity 5, and that's not exactly what has been delivered here.  What has been delivered might end up being a good game, or maybe not.  But it probably needs 6+ months of maturation before it will really work right.
 
2013-03-06 05:57:48 PM

Bonanza Jellybean: The best part was when Origin's geolocation decided most of California wasn't part of the US, so users from there were locked out of their accounts.


To be honest, most Texans don't consider California part of the US either.
 
2013-03-06 05:58:28 PM

DamnYankees: Population cap of 200,000? I'm out.


That"s Worcester, MA sized. Jesus.
 
2013-03-06 05:58:46 PM
If it's anything like Crush, Crumble, and Chomp - I'm IN!
 
2013-03-06 05:59:08 PM
Well, launching the client now and unable to connect.  I guess that I should expect to only play this game in the middle of the night when I should be sleeping.  Fark you EA.
 
2013-03-06 06:01:46 PM
i2.kym-cdn.com    YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON SERVER FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!
 
2013-03-06 06:04:06 PM
Cities XL never looked so good.

Scratch that, my old copy of SimCity 2000 never looked so good.
 
2013-03-06 06:06:18 PM
I thought their, "Play SimCity Beta for 1 hour" was as stupid as it was going to get... now this? I've heard very little "good" press about this game from anyone who's actually played it.
 
2013-03-06 06:07:20 PM

DamnYankees: Population cap of 200,000? I'm out.


EA announced it is a temporary thing, and larger maps will be offered soon.

You'll probably have to buy them.
 
2013-03-06 06:08:53 PM
Anyone foolish enough to pay sixty dollars for a game that they don't own and that they must play while always logged onto EA servers deserves this. Maybe people had an excuse for buying Diablo III, but after seeing the downside of all-intrusive DRM on that game, there is no reason that anyone should have bothered to do anything but pirate this game.

/I have not pirated this game
 
2013-03-06 06:08:56 PM
Clearly these game developers *puts on sunglasses*

i.imgur.com

don't have a Kluwe

YEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
 
2013-03-06 06:10:12 PM

js34603: ThatGuyGreg: Lsherm: It's not "cloud computing" - it's DRM.  SimCity should work just fine as a standalone single player game.

It's not a single player game anymore.

And that's the shame of it all really. Will there ever be single player games again? Or will the industry's hard on for piracy...er secondary markets...er security, its security right?...mean the age of the single player game is over?

Will everything we play in the future have to be hooked into our Facebook/Twitter Social Media Profile in order to run? I have to say I'll be amazed if after three decades of gaming the farking gaming industry finally kills my enjoyment of games by forcing everything online so they can kill GameStop.

I don't want my game hooked to my Facebook account so you can spam my friends. I don't want to have an Internet connection always on in order to play games in which I don't interact with other players except by force from the developers (why hello there Diablo III). And sometimes I just feel like playing by myself without the hassle that comes from the online community.

When I was the kids' age we played games completely contained on our cartridges damnit! We didn't have fancy online micro transactions and that's the way we liked it!


Which leads to my question, who cares? There are already more games out there than one could play in a lifetime, or a hundred lifetimes. Hell I was poking around in a couple of boxes the other day and found my usb Wingman controllers, and then decided that I would fire up my Atari 800 emulator. My wife and I were playing a game of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves for a couple of hours. She had never played the game and was having a great time once we got it rolling. I have boxes full of games just for that system alone. They could stop making games right this second and I still have enough games laying around the house to keep me from ever leaving the house again until I am dead.
 
2013-03-06 06:11:25 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: ThatGuyGreg: It's not a single player game anymore.

If you absolutely love Simcity 4 and Rush Hour, I can almost guarantee the more you learn about this newest iteration, the less you'll like.


I finally installed the NAM addon last night.

I should have used it YEARS ago.
 
2013-03-06 06:14:12 PM
I'd laugh my ass off if steam released their weekly sales numbers for Simcity 4 and revealed it stomped all over the new Origin exclusive SimCity.  I would laugh very very hard.

/Already owned it but the Steam one was faster to buy and install then trying to remember where I kept that archaic tomb that we used to refer to as a "CD binder".
 
2013-03-06 06:19:57 PM
I bought it on the way home from work today. Since I am now on Fark you can probably figure out that I am not one of the chosen few able to play the game.
 
2013-03-06 06:22:57 PM

BumpInTheNight: I'd laugh my ass off if steam released their weekly sales numbers for Simcity 4 and revealed it stomped all over the new Origin exclusive SimCity.  I would laugh very very hard.

/Already owned it but the Steam one was faster to buy and install then trying to remember where I kept that archaic tomb that we used to refer to as a "CD binder".


I would have gotten SC4 right now if the price was under $10. It is a flipping 10 year old game. I actually already own it, but like you - I have no idea where the disk is.
 
2013-03-06 06:23:36 PM

Smelly McUgly: Anyone foolish enough to pay sixty dollars for a game that they don't own and that they must play while always logged onto EA servers deserves this. Maybe people had an excuse for buying Diablo III, but after seeing the downside of all-intrusive DRM on that game, there is no reason that anyone should have bothered to do anything but pirate this game.


Pretty much.

I'm not going to pirate it, though, I'm just not going to play it. I still have SC 2000 that I bought off GoG.com for 5 bucks. It's fun, it works right, it works now, and it will work forever because it doesn't include "features" that realistically only exist as a mechanism for preventing me from playing what I paid for either by error or intent.

There are just too many classic and indie games available that aren't asking me to bend over and grab my ankles so a bunch of suits who never even like games to begin with can take turns riding me like a cheap whore as part of the EULA. I'll just go ahead and play them instead, thanks.

/ Skyrim is the only non-MMO PC game I've bought in years that wasn't indie or oldie
// gamers are stupid, stupid people though and will learn nothing from this just as they've learned nothing from any other massive DRM failure and corporate screwjob over the last decade
 
2013-03-06 06:27:32 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: scottydoesntknow: Yep, that's why I refuse to buy it. The only thing that should be "online" about that game is server storage for your maps. And it should be optional (i.e. you can store your cities locally on your hard drive AND/OR upload a copy for protection/sharing if you choose).

If it was like Skyrim or other Steam games, with automatic online backups and updates but with the option to play offline and no "Log in to the server" ridiculousness, that would be fine - but yeah, this is pants-on-head retarded. I was going to buy this, but I'll be spending my money on a used copy of SimCity 2000 instead, I think.


Why bother trying to track one down?

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/simcity_2000_special_edition

The only issue I have with them is I have to call the bank to authorize the transaction since they're based in a foreign country.
 
2013-03-06 06:27:38 PM
Single player game not working due to server issues? Something's not adding up here.

Should I reinstall Sim City 2000 or Sim City 4?
 
2013-03-06 06:28:10 PM

skozlaw: I still have SC 2000 that I bought off GoG.com for 5 bucks. It's fun, it works right, it works now, and it will work forever because it doesn't include "features" that realistically only exist as a mechanism for preventing me from playing what I paid for either by error or intent.


I love GoG. I just picked up Alpha Centauri complete with the Alien Crossfire add-on for five bucks total. No DRM, downloaded straight to my computer. 

I need to go back and play some of those mid-'90s, late-'90s, and early '00s PC games that I did not play because I had a dinky computer and was heavily a console gamer. I should really look around GoG.
 
2013-03-06 06:29:51 PM
I managed to connect this afternoon, although I ended up having to play on the Oceana server with a few Japanese players in the same region.
 
2013-03-06 06:36:32 PM
<threadjack>

In today's world, why do games end up on the 'geek' tab instead of the 'entertainment' tab?

Similarly has anyone figured out this for other topics as well (movies for instance)?  These two sections of fark have lots of needle sharing.

</threadjack>
 
2013-03-06 06:38:08 PM
so no one in the industry learned a damn thing from the Diablo II debacle? how sadly typical.
 
2013-03-06 06:38:11 PM

Arumat: Why bother trying to track one down?


Hell, that makes things even easier. Thankyou! :)
 
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