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2013-03-06 04:29:44 PM  

Perlin Noise: Here is a question ...since when was playing video games a hobby?

I guess it could be considered one but I think it makes more sense to call it a pastime. Hobby implies some sort of productivity to me... meh,  semantics I suppose...


For it to be a semantic argument, you'd have to actually be correct about the definition of a "hobby" in the first farkking place.

hob·by/ˈhäbē/NounAn activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.See the period? That means the sentence is over. There's no addition to it about how you have to get some kind of "productivity" out of it.https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+hobby&aq=f&oq=define%3A+ hobb y&aqs=chrome.0.57j58.3499&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&qscrl=1
 
2013-03-06 04:30:16 PM  
Gaming != online multiplayer gaming.  It's a lot easier to have a mellow evening with my wife if I'm playing offline.  If she talks to me, I hit pause, make eye contact, listen to her for like 10 freaking seconds (it's not that hard), respond, then we both go happily back to what we were doing.  I'd play multiplayer if I had no conflicts, but with a wife and two kids, offline/single player hits the spot.
 
2013-03-06 04:30:17 PM  

Perlin Noise: jaylectricity: soporific: you have to understand that you can't play games the way you did as a kid.

Actually I can play a lot more now. Back then my mom would make me go outside.

Haha ..."can't play games the way you did as a kid". Friend, I own 23 arcade cabinets, a whole room dedicated to really old game consoles and computers and (literally) thousands of games. I still find time to be married, be in a band, regularly play table RPGs, have a full time job and develop games independently.

You can certainly do it.. just can't have kids ;)
That's the secret.


Yeah, that's not playing games as a kid. You have to be a grown-up to be that awesome. I didn't know any kids who could boast a collection half that big, let alone arcade cabinets. That requires adult finances and adult knowhow.

/and can I come over?
 
2013-03-06 04:30:19 PM  

WhippingBoy: You sound like a dull boy, Jack.


Also stupid or uninformed.  My best man made a couple hundred bucks playing Diablo 3 with me because he's lucky and I'm not (somehow my character still slaughters his in all measurable stats).
 
2013-03-06 04:31:04 PM  

CleanAndPure: ltdanman44: this is why gamers should date gamers.

... dunno... nothing sounds more repulsive than too big flabby neck beards getting sweaty together under the covers.


Yes, because all gamers live in their parent's basement and are clinically obese. Glad you have us all figured out. You sure got ME pegged.
 
2013-03-06 04:31:44 PM  

Theaetetus: I'm not willing to leave him over it; how can I get him to stop or change my own attitude to accept it? (For clarification, I have no suspicions of any online infidelity-it just bothers me that he spends his leisure time gaming instead of reading a book, watching TV with me, etc.)

You could pick up a controller every once in a while, rather than sitting on your ass watching TV, you know.


Next month, she'll be writing: "Dear Prudie: My husband spends 10-20 hours a week reading and it really bothers me..."
 
2013-03-06 04:31:48 PM  
She needs to buy a BBOD.

/Blue Bikini of Death

i7.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-06 04:31:50 PM  

shazbotuh: tricycleracer: When he first disclosed this after the honeymoon

This is why you live together first.

This is why you're honest before you get married. Living together first doesn't necessarily guarantee full disclosure.

/didn't work for me


That works for people who allow any other opinion than their own to live.  If you end up marrying a judgmental person who is never wrong about anything, it doesn't work so well.
 
2013-03-06 04:31:52 PM  

Gifted Many Few: J. Frank Parnell: Gifted Many Few: Not really. Video games are one of the few "hobbies" that doesn't require you to get off your ass.

Actually, most hobbies are like that. The ones which involve physical activity are usually called sports.

No, video games are the laziest of the hobbies. The only activity there is going to the store and buying the game. Even that is being circumvented by Gamefly and DLCs. Name me another you can do if you literally had no legs and were glued to the couch.


I see you have no idea what you are talking about. You know, because all games are created equal and all gamers are just fat slobs.

"Name me another you can do if you literally had no legs and were glued to the couch." *sic*

Posting on Fark.
 
2013-03-06 04:31:55 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Meh, old complaint from a new shrew. Last time I read something like this the husband was playing softball, soccer, or something every weekend. Basically it boils down to a co-dependent biatch wanting every farking second of your time. He should divorce or beat her, because it won't get any better.


men golfing too much has been a staple of sitcoms shrew jokes since the 50's. at least with games i'm at the house and we can play a lot of them together
 
2013-03-06 04:32:10 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Perlin Noise: jaylectricity: soporific: you have to understand that you can't play games the way you did as a kid.

Actually I can play a lot more now. Back then my mom would make me go outside.

Haha ..."can't play games the way you did as a kid". Friend, I own 23 arcade cabinets, a whole room dedicated to really old game consoles and computers and (literally) thousands of games. I still find time to be married, be in a band, regularly play table RPGs, have a full time job and develop games independently.

You can certainly do it.. just can't have kids ;)
That's the secret.

When you're an adult you can put a column in your excel spreadsheet you keep for your budget for gaming. That's what I did. I saved up for new games I wanted (the new Tomb Raider reboot is MINE next paycheck) and when you're a kid, you can't just go in on a Saturday and work a few hours of overtime in order to hit Gamestop's midnight release of the newest Dragon Age.


You're going to LOVE it.

/Ol'skool Tomb fan.
 
2013-03-06 04:32:26 PM  

Gifted Many Few: akula: TV. Movies. Reading. Music enjoyment. Composing poetry. Painting. Even writing or playing music (depending on the instrument).

I'll concede poetry, painting and music because they are creating something. The most an online gamer does is create a character and an oh so witty double entendre name. The TV, moves and music listening to are way too passive to be considered hobbies. My dog likes doing those. Reading, I am on the fence about. I do find people that read a lot more educated than a hobby gamer.


Too bad that you don't get to write the Dictionary...

https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+hobby&aq=f&oq=define%3A+ho bb y&aqs=chrome.0.57j58.3499&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&qscrl=1
 
2013-03-06 04:33:47 PM  

L.D. Ablo: NightSteel: There are plenty of other habits that could be in place of 'video games' here. What if the guy was a gearhead and liked to work on his project car every day?

10-20 hours a week is equivalent to about 1.5-3 hours per day. It'd be like watching a movie or a ballgame every evening. That's really not so much.

There's a huge difference.

Someone who knows how to wrench can make a business out of it.  Restore that old car and you can monetize its sale.  You could start a business restoring cars.  You end up with something of value and that value can be transferred to someone else.

I've had a longtime hobby that's becoming a career in my semi-retirement.

Had I spent the past 15 years playing games, I wouldn't have shiat.

You can't take 100 hours of gameplay and sell it or give it to someone.  100 hours in my shop produces tangible goods that can be used or sold.

Videogames are a waste of life.


What the hell is with this (seemingly, I don't know if it is prevalent in other countries) American obsession with turning a hobby into a business venture?  This "ideal" that if you cannot make money with some activity, it is useless and should be discarded?

Can't a hobby just stay a hobby without someone saying "Wow, you're really good at that, maybe you should go into business for yourself."?


 
2013-03-06 04:33:48 PM  

zooyorkfreak: serial_crusher: He spends several hours a week (10-20) playing these online games!

Wow, this guy needs to talk to a divorce lawyer ASAP.  That woman is crazy

All women hate video games .. becuase Men love it .. anything Men love .. women hate .. its how it works .. especially with marriage ..


\currently going through divorce
\\played video games last night


You sound bitter. I'm looking forward to trying out my new headset tonight in Halo.
/female

meanmutton: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Adolf Oliver Nipples:
Yes.  What kind of asshat interrupts someone reading a book?


My FIL, despite the fact that he's always reading too.
 
2013-03-06 04:34:24 PM  

barnacleboy: thecpt: meat0918: Cards Against Humanity

so much fun.  easily a staple of the drunken get together

what the fark, why do I only hear of this now and why cantI get them in the Uk :(


Believe me, I've been trying to buy a Deck for me and Mr. Mafiageek1980 here in the US and they are ALWAYS sold out :(
 
2013-03-06 04:35:11 PM  

L.D. Ablo: NightSteel: There are plenty of other habits that could be in place of 'video games' here. What if the guy was a gearhead and liked to work on his project car every day?

10-20 hours a week is equivalent to about 1.5-3 hours per day. It'd be like watching a movie or a ballgame every evening. That's really not so much.

There's a huge difference.

Someone who knows how to wrench can make a business out of it.  Restore that old car and you can monetize its sale.  You could start a business restoring cars.  You end up with something of value and that value can be transferred to someone else.

I've had a longtime hobby that's becoming a career in my semi-retirement.

Had I spent the past 15 years playing games, I wouldn't have shiat.

You can't take 100 hours of gameplay and sell it or give it to someone.  100 hours in my shop produces tangible goods that can be used or sold.

Videogames are a waste of life.


Well, aren't YOU special? Pretentious assholes are the TRUE wastes of life. Grow up and get down off your soapbox, nobody is actually impressed that you have crowned yourself the King of Spending Free Time. It's their time, not yours.
 
2013-03-06 04:36:25 PM  

kiwimoogle84: SuperChuck: kiwimoogle84: Lexx: CSB time: my gf can't understand why I like video games, so I introduce her to final fantasy. She's chewed through them in about a month each. I've created a monster.

Have her play the Fables and Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning. And Lost Odyssey.

/you're welcome

My wife really liked Fables but man does it get weird sometimes


Being able to beat 3 in a chicken suit. You: weird. Me: awesome


Awesome and weird are not mutually exclusive. I did think that your character can get a little overly affectionate with the dog though. That was just weird
 
2013-03-06 04:36:36 PM  

Two16: kiwimoogle84: Perlin Noise: jaylectricity: soporific: you have to understand that you can't play games the way you did as a kid.

Actually I can play a lot more now. Back then my mom would make me go outside.

Haha ..."can't play games the way you did as a kid". Friend, I own 23 arcade cabinets, a whole room dedicated to really old game consoles and computers and (literally) thousands of games. I still find time to be married, be in a band, regularly play table RPGs, have a full time job and develop games independently.

You can certainly do it.. just can't have kids ;)
That's the secret.

When you're an adult you can put a column in your excel spreadsheet you keep for your budget for gaming. That's what I did. I saved up for new games I wanted (the new Tomb Raider reboot is MINE next paycheck) and when you're a kid, you can't just go in on a Saturday and work a few hours of overtime in order to hit Gamestop's midnight release of the newest Dragon Age.

You're going to LOVE it.

/Ol'skool Tomb fan.


NEVER played the OG's. Back when those were hoppin' I never had a computer. Didn't get a computer until 2007. I was always borrowing my parents' internet. Also I'm FP impaired- I HAVE to be able to see myself or I have zero bearing. I cried when I figured out I couldn't play Metroid Prime.

So yes, looking forward to this. A lot.
 
2013-03-06 04:36:40 PM  

Gifted Many Few: No, video games are the laziest of the hobbies. The only activity there is going to the store and buying the game. Even that is being circumvented by Gamefly and DLCs. Name me another you can do if you literally had no legs and were glued to the couch.


Fantasy football.
 
2013-03-06 04:37:14 PM  

loonatic112358: mafiageek1980: In turn, I've got him watching "Duck Dynasty", "Cops", and "Toddlers and Tiaras", lol!

You're evil, and should be tarred and feathered


muahahhaahahahahahahahaha! Seriously, watching those shows (cept Duck Dynasty, that one is a semi-legit decent reality show) while getting drunk on cheap beer is VERY fun!
 
2013-03-06 04:37:21 PM  

vudukungfu: jennies1897: This woman seriously needs to talk to someone who has dealt with someone who has a serious addiction to video games. I was with a guy who slowly devolved over the four years I lived with him. At first he played more than I expected, which wasn't that big of a deal. We still did things together. Over time, it got to a point where he couldn't hold down a job anymore. I could go days without speaking to him because he was so busy raiding. He turned down sex repeatedly and the rare times we had it at all, it was entirely hate-farking on my part. He spent days on that computer, neglecting himself, me, the apartment. My complaints fell on deaf ears, once in awhile he would encourage me to join him. The guy literally did not realize he was destroying his relationship and was utterly shocked when I finally broke it off. It still bothers me to this day and while I did date another guy who was into online role playing games, I couldn't move forward because the experience wouldn't leave my mind. That's sad and honestly, she should be delighted he only plays 10 hrs a week. That shiat can destroy lives.

So... You're single?


i second that notion for a response from jennie
 
2013-03-06 04:37:54 PM  

LineNoise: Carn: I'd wager most people watch more than 10 hours of tv a week, but we don't call them tv addicts.  At least video games are interactive and have been proven to stimulate and improve parts of the mind and physical coordination.  Conclusion: she's a stupid biatch.

You sound like a 12 year old arguing to mom when she tells you to put down super mario brothers and go outside.


Haha, sure I do, because only 12 year olds play video games, right?
 
2013-03-06 04:38:34 PM  

Felgraf: Gifted Many Few: No, video games are the laziest of the hobbies. The only activity there is going to the store and buying the game. Even that is being circumvented by Gamefly and DLCs. Name me another you can do if you literally had no legs and were glued to the couch.

Fantasy football.


You don't even need a brain for fantasy football, just pick your best players at each position and pray. You have no control over it.
 
2013-03-06 04:38:40 PM  

serial_crusher: He spends several hours a week (10-20) playing these online games!

Wow, this guy needs to talk to a divorce lawyer ASAP.  That woman is crazy


I don't have to read any further; you win the thread.
 
2013-03-06 04:39:16 PM  
Hey, doesn't anybody have a significant other that they share their gaming hobby with?

'Cause that sounds like it would make a fascinating story.
 
2013-03-06 04:39:32 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Perlin Noise: jaylectricity: soporific: you have to understand that you can't play games the way you did as a kid.

Actually I can play a lot more now. Back then my mom would make me go outside.

Haha ..."can't play games the way you did as a kid". Friend, I own 23 arcade cabinets, a whole room dedicated to really old game consoles and computers and (literally) thousands of games. I still find time to be married, be in a band, regularly play table RPGs, have a full time job and develop games independently.

You can certainly do it.. just can't have kids ;)
That's the secret.

When you're an adult you can put a column in your excel spreadsheet you keep for your budget for gaming. That's what I did. I saved up for new games I wanted (the new Tomb Raider reboot is MINE next paycheck) and when you're a kid, you can't just go in on a Saturday and work a few hours of overtime in order to hit Gamestop's midnight release of the newest Dragon Age.


Or just buy them all on Steam when they have their holiday sales :D
 
2013-03-06 04:40:35 PM  

ladyfortuna: zooyorkfreak: serial_crusher: He spends several hours a week (10-20) playing these online games!

Wow, this guy needs to talk to a divorce lawyer ASAP.  That woman is crazy

All women hate video games .. becuase Men love it .. anything Men love .. women hate .. its how it works .. especially with marriage ..


\currently going through divorce
\\played video games last night

You sound bitter. I'm looking forward to trying out my new headset tonight in Halo.
/female

meanmutton: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Adolf Oliver Nipples:
Yes.  What kind of asshat interrupts someone reading a book?

My FIL, despite the fact that he's always reading too.


Not at all bitter .. actually quite happy .. but yes that was a bitter FARKy comment i had.. lol.
\bought a new headset two days ago
\\played halo last night
\\\fate?
 
2013-03-06 04:41:27 PM  

meat0918: What the hell is with this (seemingly, I don't know if it is prevalent in other countries) American obsession with turning a hobby into a business venture?


Because we all hate our jobs and would love to make money doing something we enjoy. The irony is, the minute it becomes a "job," we don't enjoy doing it anymore.
 
2013-03-06 04:42:48 PM  

Carn: kiwimoogle84: Perlin Noise: jaylectricity: soporific: you have to understand that you can't play games the way you did as a kid.

Actually I can play a lot more now. Back then my mom would make me go outside.

Haha ..."can't play games the way you did as a kid". Friend, I own 23 arcade cabinets, a whole room dedicated to really old game consoles and computers and (literally) thousands of games. I still find time to be married, be in a band, regularly play table RPGs, have a full time job and develop games independently.

You can certainly do it.. just can't have kids ;)
That's the secret.

When you're an adult you can put a column in your excel spreadsheet you keep for your budget for gaming. That's what I did. I saved up for new games I wanted (the new Tomb Raider reboot is MINE next paycheck) and when you're a kid, you can't just go in on a Saturday and work a few hours of overtime in order to hit Gamestop's midnight release of the newest Dragon Age.

Or just buy them all on Steam when they have their holiday sales :D


There is that, yes. Didn't enjoy the battle mechanic of DA actually. Never finished either. I think that was when I discovered Valkyria Chronicles. I've played that all the way through at least 10 times. I'll fire it up and attempt to win random battles with as few soldiers as possible when I'm bored and killing time. If you've not played, and you like RTS's, I've never played anything like it. Also, anime-style cell shading=gorgeous.
 
2013-03-06 04:43:16 PM  

Mikey1969: For it to be a semantic argument, you'd have to actually be correct about the definition of a "hobby" in the first farkking place


Wow, that's a lot of anger about a definition, friend.

However, thank you for the clarification. I'm not sure why my post made you so mad, but I apologize. I don't mean to contradict that definition, it's just that I more often hear hobby in the context of more productive activities. That is not to say that non-productive activities are in some way bad.

Also, if you would look up the word pastime ...you may find what I meant about semantics
 
2013-03-06 04:43:19 PM  

meat0918: What the hell is with this (seemingly, I don't know if it is prevalent in other countries) American obsession with turning a hobby into a business venture? This "ideal" that if you cannot make money with some activity, it is useless and should be discarded?

Can't a hobby just stay a hobby without someone saying "Wow, you're really good at that, maybe you should go into business for yourself."?


I think it's capitalism. We're taught at a young age to find something we like doing and then find somebody to pay us to do that. Also, because of the way capitalism is set up, if you aren't making every dollar you possibly can, you start to fall behind. So now that the richest people in the country have taken so much of the money, the rest of us have fallen behind and we end up needing supplemental income.
 
2013-03-06 04:43:31 PM  

meanmutton: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Adolf Oliver Nipples: She probably watches more TV or reads more than that every week. What's the difference?

Playing Devil's advocate: reading or watching TV are not as "exclusive" an activity as video games are.  Have you ever walked up to someone reading a book to ask a question and were told "Not now!  I'm in the middle of a chapter!"  Video games can be seen much more as a solitary, I'm-ignoring-you activity - thus the feeling of abandonment by the non-playing party.

TMYK

Yes.  What kind of asshat interrupts someone reading a book?


That was my reaction.  I absolutely lose track when someone interrupts me while I'm reading a book, and it's extremely annoying.  Gaming on the other hand?

"What are you playing?"
"Mass Effect 3."
"Why is that salamander girl yelling at that big fat snapping turtle dude?"
"Eh, I'm trying to broker a peace deal between these three alien races, so they'll help the human race against an invasion by these other evil aliens."
"What are they mad each other for?"
"Two of them tried to wipe the third race with biological weapons.  They might go extinct in a few generations."
"That's pretty farked up, why did they do that?"
"The big dude is a Krogan.  They tried to conquer the galaxy a few thousand years ago."
"What side did the humans take?"
"This was before we discovered space travel.  It's only set in the 23rd century or so."
"Huh, so what about..."

I ended up explaining the entire plot, the backstory, etc. to the point she was genuinely intrigued by the game's premise.  She couldn't get the hang of the controls (most modern shooter games were beyond her grasp), but we ended up making a character based on her, and I played through the action sequences, and let her make the decisions in the RPG sequences.  It basically became a Choose Your Own Adventure movie for her, I got to shoot things, she didn't get frustrated by the controls, and we both had fun.
 
2013-03-06 04:43:43 PM  

belhade: When i first met my wife, I was pretty heavily involved in Everquest.


I never understood Everquest. My brother in law played it when it was the big thing, and I would sometimes hang out and we'd bullshiat while he played. Sometimes  I'd just hang and watch him play for awhile. I never once saw him do anything but run from point 'A' to point 'B', to point 'C', all the way down through point 'Z', and then start attaching numbers to he end, point 'A1', and so on. Seriously, it seemed like the most boring game ever...
 
2013-03-06 04:44:50 PM  

fawlty: meat0918: What the hell is with this (seemingly, I don't know if it is prevalent in other countries) American obsession with turning a hobby into a business venture?

Because we all hate our jobs and would love to make money doing something we enjoy. The irony is, the minute it becomes a "job," we don't enjoy doing it anymore.


You said it, buddy.  Being a porn-star/astronaut is NOT as fun as I thought it would be.
 
2013-03-06 04:45:07 PM  
mafiageek1980:
I have had a similar experience with my husband's love for sci-fi movies and shows. I've always hated sci-fi and swore that would be "his thing, not mine", but once he got me watching "Battlestar Galactica" (the new version), I've been more understanding and even hooked. I still can't get into Star Trek, but I am a hard-core Whovian now thanks to him.

In turn, I've got him watching "Duck Dynasty", "Cops", and "Toddlers and Tiaras", lol!



You know how I know you smoke marijuana? lol

I had this one lady friend that would often come over to my place. When we weren't enjoying each others company she would flip the TV on and watch a TV show called the Bachelor. For starters, this is truely one of the most moronic shows about a bunch of desperate women I've ever seen. However, we noticed that we were laughing through entire episodes by mocking every single part. I didn't mind it so much when I could rip the show to shreds.

She ended up finding a guy that wanted to be her boyfriend and I've not really watched any reality TV since then. But out of all of the shows, I could see myself watching the Bachelor again for the laughs.
 
2013-03-06 04:45:19 PM  

mafiageek1980: scottydoesntknow: Maybe you should try and get involved with his activity instead of acting like a passive-agressive biatch.

CSB: I kinda hid my gaming from my girlfriend when we first started dating. Never turned it on or talked about any of the games I bought because I figured she didn't care. About 3 months in we're watching TV and she asks "Why don't you ever turn on your Xbox?" I told her it was because I figured she didn't like it. She then asks what games I play and wanted to try one out herself. I had her play Mass Effect. She didn't really get the shooting down too much (has a bad habit of only using one thumb at a time, so she'd run forward, stop turn, stop, run forward, etc.) but eventually got the hang of it and fell in love with the story. She's currently a Lvl 37 Commander on ME2 and loves telling people that (She hates that stuck-up biatch Miranda). We alternate playing now, do co-op, she uses the Kinect to exercise, got into PC gaming a little bit, mainly playing Sims, but started playing Fallout: NV recently.

/CSB

I have had a similar experience with my husband's love for sci-fi movies and shows. I've always hated sci-fi and swore that would be "his thing, not mine", but once he got me watching "Battlestar Galactica" (the new version), I've been more understanding and even hooked. I still can't get into Star Trek, but I am a hard-core Whovian now thanks to him.

In turn, I've got him watching "Duck Dynasty", "Cops", and "Toddlers and Tiaras", lol!


Heh we actually have a set-up where I get the big living room TV for my games, but I also brought out our bedroom TV and have it set-up on the coffee table. She can watch her shows while I play my game, or vice versa. We constantly catch ourselves watching what the other person is doing (she was mesmerized by Skyrim and loved watching the dragon battles), and I've seen a lot more of "Toddlers and Tiaras" than I care to admit.
 
2013-03-06 04:45:34 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: She wishes he'd watch more TV instead? Because passively staring at a screen is so much better, right?

Really says something for the sad state of things when watching TV is considered doing something together.


Well, watching a show together gives you something to talk about and a reason to cuddle. Playing games together might not be your thing. It just depends.

My GF and I are both very busy and we're still figuring out how to spend what time we get together. Right now, we're going through TV shows. I might try to get her into a particular game at some point, but I'm not sure yes.
 
2013-03-06 04:45:43 PM  

JustFish: JustFish: My GF was a big gamer in the 2D days of NES / SNES, and can still kick my ass at super mario. She never figured out the whole change to 3D, went so far as to buy a N64 to start her at the beginning, but she just can't get into it, humps the wall in the corner on any FPS she tries.

She does however love good puzzle games, like Safe Cracker and Puzzle Agent 1 / 2

Can anyone recommend a couple good puzzle games from over the years?

Myst and 7th Guest are the obvious choices, but I'd like to find some on the consoles, I have the big 3 (PS3, 360, Wii)

Portal 1 & 2.  3D, look great, and as a bonus both are funny (but the second is especially hilarious).  I played it twice because it made me laugh so much.

Portal are close to the top of my favorite of all times, and I've tried getting her to do the co-op with me. Because there isn't the run and gun like most FPS, she got farther then usual, but her frustration really gets high with 3D games for some reason. I'll have to try again.

I was able to get her into sci fi, Battlestar and Dr Who broke the ice, a well as firefly, now she's willing to at least try things in the genera.

I keep trying to tell her some of the best sci fi stories i've seen have been in games in the past couple years, finally playing through the ME series now, half way through 2 and I'm just blown away.


Man, I also was late to the ME party.  I just finished 2 a couple weeks ago.  The ending in the first one absolutely blew me away.  3 is on my list for after I play the cheapies I got off Steam.

For more puzzle goodness, you might try World of Goo, Limbo, or Trine 2.  World of goo is more arcadey kind of, while the other two are story based.  All three were pretty original.
 
2013-03-06 04:46:35 PM  

kiwimoogle84: I think that was when I discovered Valkyria Chronicles.


I'm still super pissed the third one is never coming to the states. =(
 
2013-03-06 04:47:57 PM  
I was married to a woman like that.

Notice I said "was".
 
2013-03-06 04:48:19 PM  

Sgt Otter: It basically became a Choose Your Own Adventure movie for her, I got to shoot things, she didn't get frustrated by the controls, and we both had fun.


that's beautiful man
 
2013-03-06 04:49:23 PM  

fawlty: meat0918: What the hell is with this (seemingly, I don't know if it is prevalent in other countries) American obsession with turning a hobby into a business venture?

Because we all hate our jobs and would love to make money doing something we enjoy. The irony is, the minute it becomes a "job," we don't enjoy doing it anymore.


Which is precisely why I never went to culinary school. As soon as I'm forced to cook, I'll hate it, no matter how much I loved cooking before. And I'd never cook for fun anymore.
 
2013-03-06 04:49:54 PM  

Mikey1969: belhade: When i first met my wife, I was pretty heavily involved in Everquest.

I never understood Everquest. My brother in law played it when it was the big thing, and I would sometimes hang out and we'd bullshiat while he played. Sometimes  I'd just hang and watch him play for awhile. I never once saw him do anything but run from point 'A' to point 'B', to point 'C', all the way down through point 'Z', and then start attaching numbers to he end, point 'A1', and so on. Seriously, it seemed like the most boring game ever...


He may have just been running quests. Some of them are like that. He might have been looking for specific items or monsters at those locations. I hated those, but they were necessary for a lot of things. Most play was supposed to revolve around up-to-6-player groups killing monsters.
 
2013-03-06 04:53:00 PM  
Advice columns are always good for a laugh as they do a fine job of illustrating a fundamental difference between men and women.

Men use an argument to win a crowd.

Women use a crowd to win an argument.
 
2013-03-06 04:53:19 PM  

Perlin Noise: Mikey1969: For it to be a semantic argument, you'd have to actually be correct about the definition of a "hobby" in the first farkking place

Wow, that's a lot of anger about a definition, friend.

However, thank you for the clarification. I'm not sure why my post made you so mad, but I apologize. I don't mean to contradict that definition, it's just that I more often hear hobby in the context of more productive activities. That is not to say that non-productive activities are in some way bad.

Also, if you would look up the word pastime ...you may find what I meant about semantics


You don't understand why people get annoyed when you start badmouthing the way they spend their free time? Seriously?

Let me type more slowly: People don't like smug jersey inferring that their chosen hobby is somehow more lowbrow than whatever the smug jerk has put their own personal seal of approval on.
 
2013-03-06 04:54:15 PM  

Carn: kiwimoogle84: Perlin Noise: jaylectricity: soporific: you have to understand that you can't play games the way you did as a kid.

Actually I can play a lot more now. Back then my mom would make me go outside.

Haha ..."can't play games the way you did as a kid". Friend, I own 23 arcade cabinets, a whole room dedicated to really old game consoles and computers and (literally) thousands of games. I still find time to be married, be in a band, regularly play table RPGs, have a full time job and develop games independently.

You can certainly do it.. just can't have kids ;)
That's the secret.

When you're an adult you can put a column in your excel spreadsheet you keep for your budget for gaming. That's what I did. I saved up for new games I wanted (the new Tomb Raider reboot is MINE next paycheck) and when you're a kid, you can't just go in on a Saturday and work a few hours of overtime in order to hit Gamestop's midnight release of the newest Dragon Age.

Or just buy them all on Steam when they have their holiday sales :D


I got the THQ pack as well as finally, finally buying Portal 1 & 2 this past Christmas.  I've since also finally bought Minecraft, and that game is more addictive than it should be.  My kids love it, although I've had to mediate and reteach the "Don't tell someone else how to play a game unless they ask" lesson a few times.  They both hate when the other one tells them how they should be playing, but they both do it to each other.

Of course, I don't just play video games.  I also do my portion of the yard work and the gardening with my wife during the daylight hours.  The roses are my responsibility, and I need to muck out the chicken coop this weekend, as well as help with the veggie starts for spring and get the finished compost out onto the beds.

My wife is amazing really. She liked Morrowind, we played WoW together, she can kick my butt in Mario Kart Wii, we play Just Dance on occasion, we've painted miniatures together (only one each for a home craft project, but it was fun learning how to do it, and I've for a long time purposely stopped myself from getting into that particular money sink).
 
2013-03-06 04:54:31 PM  

kiwimoogle84: zooyorkfreak: serial_crusher: He spends several hours a week (10-20) playing these online games!

Wow, this guy needs to talk to a divorce lawyer ASAP.  That woman is crazy

All women hate video games .. becuase Men love it .. anything Men love .. women hate .. its how it works .. especially with marriage ..


\currently going through divorce
\\played video games last night

You poor thing. You need a hug.

/just out of curiosity, what game were you playing?


Haha.  Thanks.

Halo 4 ... until my 3 brothers came on (two married with kids) and we played NBA2K13 (because the one that rarely comes on wanted to play a sports game) .. or we would of played halo 4 instead.
 
2013-03-06 04:54:39 PM  

Sgt Otter: I ended up explaining the entire plot, the backstory, etc. to the point she was genuinely intrigued by the game's premise. She couldn't get the hang of the controls (most modern shooter games were beyond her grasp), but we ended up making a character based on her, and I played through the action sequences, and let her make the decisions in the RPG sequences. It basically became a Choose Your Own Adventure movie for her, I got to shoot things, she didn't get frustrated by the controls, and we both had fun.


Heh that was the same approach I took. She would take the controls and start the battles, but if she started to get frustrated she'd just hand the controller to me, I'd blast through the baddies, and she could get back to the Role Playing part. But it's awesome when she completes a whole section by herself, she feels really proud.
 
2013-03-06 04:54:43 PM  

kiwimoogle84 [TotalFark]

Dirtybird971: DontMakeMeComeBackThere

Adolf Oliver Nipples: She probably watches more TV or reads more than that every week. What's the difference?

Playing Devil's advocate: reading or watching TV are not as "exclusive" an activity as video games are. Have you ever walked up to someone reading a book to ask a question and were told "Not now! I'm in the middle of a chapter!" Video games can be seen much more as a solitary, I'm-ignoring-you activity - thus the feeling of abandonment by the non-playing party.

TMYK

To me it's not any different than someone who spends all their time looking at their phone and texting or doing whatever..

OMGTHIS.

My younger sister never understood how I could be 87 hours into a save file of FFIX, in fact I think she called it BORING, but she was constantly IMing people on AIM. SAME EFFING THING, only I get the satisfaction of being a perfectionist/completist with every item synthed by the time I'm done, and you're STILL talking about Bobby's dreamy eyes.


tell me more about my eyes...

/BB
 
2013-03-06 04:55:36 PM  

meat0918: L.D. Ablo: NightSteel: There are plenty of other habits that could be in place of 'video games' here. What if the guy was a gearhead and liked to work on his project car every day?

10-20 hours a week is equivalent to about 1.5-3 hours per day. It'd be like watching a movie or a ballgame every evening. That's really not so much.

There's a huge difference.

Someone who knows how to wrench can make a business out of it.  Restore that old car and you can monetize its sale.  You could start a business restoring cars.  You end up with something of value and that value can be transferred to someone else.

I've had a longtime hobby that's becoming a career in my semi-retirement.

Had I spent the past 15 years playing games, I wouldn't have shiat.

You can't take 100 hours of gameplay and sell it or give it to someone.  100 hours in my shop produces tangible goods that can be used or sold.

Videogames are a waste of life.

What the hell is with this (seemingly, I don't know if it is prevalent in other countries) American obsession with turning a hobby into a business venture?  This "ideal" that if you cannot make money with some activity, it is useless and should be discarded?

Can't a hobby just stay a hobby without someone saying "Wow, you're really good at that, maybe you should go into business for yourself."?


He's just bitter because his DPS was too low to get into the raid group.
 
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