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(WPRI Rhode Island)   As we try to find $85 billion in cuts to meet the "sequester", here's a timely report that concludes that the $60 billion we spent re-constructing Iraq, was basically all wasted, to say nothing of the $767 billion we spent DE-constructing it   (wpri.com ) divider line
    More: Sad, Iraq, President of Iraq, Deputy Secretary of State, Maliki, Iraqi security forces, Sunni Muslims, infighting, gas pipelines  
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2013-03-06 12:08:58 PM  
3 votes:

GiantRex: I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it


No, if there wasn't oil in the Middle East, we'd have ignored it almost completely by now. See: Africa.
2013-03-06 01:36:26 PM  
2 votes:

pxsteel: Bareefer Obonghit: The only number that you need to remember is 9/11. Never forget.

Only time will tell if the money and blood we spent in Iraq and Afganistan was worth it.  There were plenty of mistakes made but Saddam and his sons were completely insane and there were terrorist training camps in Iraq.  We fought for months to get control of Samarra and Ramadi.  We have not had another 9/11 type attack in 12 years and let's hope it stays that way.  Al Qaeda did not die with Saddam or OBL, but you have to know that the war in Iraq and Afganistan has played a huge roll in disrupting the operations of the terrorist groups.


Conflating secular Baathist Saddam with Al-Qaeda, failing to mention the terrorist training camp were in Kurdish territory and training anti-Saddam insurgents.  Magnificent. 10/10
2013-03-06 12:35:29 PM  
2 votes:

Rev.K: My God, how f*cking retarded do you have to be to go along with that asinine bit of "logic"?


That quote comes from his testimony to the US Congress at the time, so there's your answer.
2013-03-06 12:22:40 PM  
2 votes:
the $60 billion we spent re-constructing Iraq, was basically all wasted, to say nothing of the $767 billion we spent DE-constructing it

The stockholders at Halliburton disagree.
2013-03-06 12:17:25 PM  
2 votes:
Well, duh. Warfare is basically very large-scale armed robbery.

In this case, we assembled a crack team of con men, safecrackers, drivers, and professional crooks, but instead of robbing three Vegas casinos, we knocked over a 7-11 that had already made its deposit for the day.
2013-03-06 11:32:52 AM  
2 votes:
But sending pallet loads of cash into an unstable, ethnically divided country with no functioning government seemed like such a good idea at the time.

www.tedellis.net
2013-03-06 09:12:26 PM  
1 vote:
But if the U.S. didn't use its massive military to invade other countries and waste billions doing it, then some rational people might conclude that it doesn't NEED such a massive investment in the military, and the taxpayer dollars might be used to actually do something that benefits the nation (infrastructure, education, research, etc.etc.)
2013-03-06 02:27:41 PM  
1 vote:

Cletus C.: It's what our country does. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq. Stupid, costly wars.

Yes, the Iraq war was particularly moronic. But those other two had their share of pointlessness. Korea and Vietnam were meat grinders, chewing up young American lives. Iraq fatalities paled by comparison, at least.

But all bad wars. Bush and his minions own that Iraq mess. Now the question is where we'll wage our next stupid war. Iran? North Korea?

What is it with this country?


Baby Boomers still looking for justification of might makes right. The Boomers lost Korea and they lost Vietnam. The people who brought you Korea and Vietnam were still trying to use the theory of military domination to setup friendly governments. It is sad they lost Iraq and Afghanistan using this outdated and dis-proven theory of military domination.

They desperately needed these two wars to work as intended, because other wise why do we need a 700+ billion dollar military, if we can't even conquer and control two backward third world shiat holes?  That is the real lesson of Iraq and Afghanistan, we don't need his much military to dominate the world.
m00
2013-03-06 01:38:24 PM  
1 vote:

unexplained bacon: m00: unexplained bacon: pxsteel: Bareefer Obonghit: The only number that you need to remember is 9/11. Never forget.

Only time will tell if the money and blood we spent in Iraq and Afganistan was worth it.  There were plenty of mistakes made but Saddam and his sons were completely insane and there were terrorist training camps in Iraq.  We fought for months to get control of Samarra and Ramadi.  We have not had another 9/11 type attack in 12 years and let's hope it stays that way.  Al Qaeda did not die with Saddam or OBL, but you have to know that the war in Iraq and Afganistan has played a huge roll in disrupting the operations of the terrorist groups.

Right
Why is everyone getting so tense man?
Do like our republican buddies and be chill dude.

GOPers have a knack for letting worries about massive fark ups just roll right off them. Hey man time will tell just wait and see maaaann.

They only freak the fark out if you do something crazy like attempt to give poor people healthcare coverage or some dumb shiat.

yeah but thats not what Obamacare is. Obamacare was the Republican alternative to the medicaid expansion under clinton.

And it mandates that everyone must buy ins coverage. People who can't afford it get assistance.

/single payer is what we actually need though.


I think if we want socialized medicine, we should have socialized medicine. but Obamacare isn't socialized medicine, it merely legislates that everyone must purchase insurance from a private provider but then gives discounts or rebates to the poor. But it's still just a payout to the Insurance industry.
2013-03-06 01:27:56 PM  
1 vote:

unexplained bacon: pxsteel: Bareefer Obonghit: The only number that you need to remember is 9/11. Never forget.

Only time will tell if the money and blood we spent in Iraq and Afganistan was worth it.  There were plenty of mistakes made but Saddam and his sons were completely insane and there were terrorist training camps in Iraq.  We fought for months to get control of Samarra and Ramadi.  We have not had another 9/11 type attack in 12 years and let's hope it stays that way.  Al Qaeda did not die with Saddam or OBL, but you have to know that the war in Iraq and Afganistan has played a huge roll in disrupting the operations of the terrorist groups.

Right
Why is everyone getting so tense man?
Do like our republican buddies and be chill dude.

GOPers have a knack for letting worries about massive fark ups just roll right off them. Hey man time will tell just wait and see maaaann.

They only freak the fark out if you do something crazy like attempt to give poor people healthcare coverage or some dumb shiat.


Killing people en masse: Well, let's do it and hope it turns out okay.

Proven effective domestic policy to alleviate poverty: NO THERE'S A SMALL POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEONE SOMEWHERE MIGHT GET SOMETHING THEY DON'T DESERVE AND WE CAN'T RISK THAT.
m00
2013-03-06 12:30:44 PM  
1 vote:
I remember when Dick Cheney said "deficits don't matter." I remember arguing with conservatives on message boards who INSISTED that deficits don't matter, and any criticism of Bush was tantamount to treason. And any criticism of the military was aiding the enemy.

It is pretty funny that Republicans have conveniently forgotten 2001-2008
2013-03-06 12:16:46 PM  
1 vote:

GiantRex: I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it


It's not about oil.  If it was about oil, we would have, um, taken it.

It's about one guy wanting to kill somebody who threatened his daddy.  That's it.
2013-03-06 12:14:09 PM  
1 vote:

Karac: CygnusDarius: [www.steroid.com image 350x254]

Steroid users need not apply because they'll be welcome regardless.


And these guys actually changed their name a couple of time to avoid lawsuits, right?.
2013-03-06 12:10:59 PM  
1 vote:
I can't imagine after the colossal waste of money that was Iraq anyone can in good faith trust the Republican party again.

That was a shiat ton of money.  Makes all the arguments over NPR and Planned Parenthood look like peanuts.

Thinking about it just gives me a sad.  What a waste of money and life.
2013-03-06 12:10:00 PM  
1 vote:
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
2013-03-06 12:07:59 PM  
1 vote:
Well I'm glad they cut my parents social security and veterans benefits to help pay for this. I feel safer already
2013-03-06 12:05:22 PM  
1 vote:
"There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."  -- Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003.
2013-03-06 12:02:59 PM  
1 vote:
The GOP wanted the war.......it's about time they pony up and pay for it.
2013-03-06 11:57:16 AM  
1 vote:
It' s actually quite simple:

Stop electing social conservatives to office.   There is no reason we need another Bush administration in the White House, or for that matter, the Republican party to dominate in Congress.
2013-03-06 11:55:44 AM  
1 vote:
Remember, guys, Democrats are big spenders and Republicans are fiscally responsible.
2013-03-06 11:55:35 AM  
1 vote:
I am pretty sure we had all agreed not to talk about this.
2013-03-06 11:55:17 AM  
1 vote:
It's a nice scam the rightists have going.
2013-03-06 11:10:53 AM  
1 vote:
I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it
2013-03-06 11:07:51 AM  
1 vote:
Republicans are fiscal conservatives.
2013-03-06 10:59:38 AM  
1 vote:
If we've learned anything from the past few years, it's that the years 2001 to 2009 didn't happen. Everyone was on vacation.
 
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