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(WPRI Rhode Island)   As we try to find $85 billion in cuts to meet the "sequester", here's a timely report that concludes that the $60 billion we spent re-constructing Iraq, was basically all wasted, to say nothing of the $767 billion we spent DE-constructing it   (wpri.com) divider line 141
    More: Sad, Iraq, President of Iraq, Deputy Secretary of State, Maliki, Iraqi security forces, Sunni Muslims, infighting, gas pipelines  
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2013-03-06 10:59:38 AM
If we've learned anything from the past few years, it's that the years 2001 to 2009 didn't happen. Everyone was on vacation.
 
2013-03-06 11:07:51 AM
Republicans are fiscal conservatives.
 
2013-03-06 11:10:53 AM
I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it
 
2013-03-06 11:25:21 AM
Freedom isn't free.
 
2013-03-06 11:32:52 AM
But sending pallet loads of cash into an unstable, ethnically divided country with no functioning government seemed like such a good idea at the time.

www.tedellis.net
 
2013-03-06 11:41:47 AM
Way to go , America. Job well done. Thumb's up!

/the important thing to remember - certain people got filthy rich
 
2013-03-06 11:54:27 AM
The only number that you need to remember is 9/11. Never forget.
 
2013-03-06 11:55:17 AM
It's a nice scam the rightists have going.
 
2013-03-06 11:55:35 AM
I am pretty sure we had all agreed not to talk about this.
 
2013-03-06 11:55:44 AM
Remember, guys, Democrats are big spenders and Republicans are fiscally responsible.
 
2013-03-06 11:57:16 AM
It' s actually quite simple:

Stop electing social conservatives to office.   There is no reason we need another Bush administration in the White House, or for that matter, the Republican party to dominate in Congress.
 
2013-03-06 11:58:23 AM
www.steroid.com
 
2013-03-06 11:59:38 AM

Sybarite: But sending pallet loads of cash into an unstable, ethnically divided country with no functioning government seemed like such a good idea at the time.

[www.tedellis.net image 719x520]


Wow, you could literally dump all that cash into a pool and go for a swim in it.  Jesus that's quite a bit of money.
 
2013-03-06 12:02:37 PM
But hey a select few made a buttload of cash from it so it's all good! That's how Freedom works baby!  USA!USA!USA!

/amidoingitright?
 
2013-03-06 12:02:59 PM
The GOP wanted the war.......it's about time they pony up and pay for it.
 
2013-03-06 12:05:12 PM
Don't forget Benghazi!
 
2013-03-06 12:05:22 PM
"There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."  -- Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003.
 
2013-03-06 12:06:12 PM
A few billion here, a few billion there, sooner or later you're talking about real money.
 
2013-03-06 12:07:35 PM
We could have won if it weren't for the stinkin' libs.
 
2013-03-06 12:07:42 PM

CygnusDarius: [www.steroid.com image 350x254]


Steroid users need not apply because they'll be welcome regardless.
 
2013-03-06 12:07:59 PM
Well I'm glad they cut my parents social security and veterans benefits to help pay for this. I feel safer already
 
2013-03-06 12:08:58 PM

GiantRex: I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it


No, if there wasn't oil in the Middle East, we'd have ignored it almost completely by now. See: Africa.
 
2013-03-06 12:10:00 PM
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
 
2013-03-06 12:10:59 PM
I can't imagine after the colossal waste of money that was Iraq anyone can in good faith trust the Republican party again.

That was a shiat ton of money.  Makes all the arguments over NPR and Planned Parenthood look like peanuts.

Thinking about it just gives me a sad.  What a waste of money and life.
 
2013-03-06 12:11:07 PM
It's what our country does. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq. Stupid, costly wars.

Yes, the Iraq war was particularly moronic. But those other two had their share of pointlessness. Korea and Vietnam were meat grinders, chewing up young American lives. Iraq fatalities paled by comparison, at least.

But all bad wars. Bush and his minions own that Iraq mess. Now the question is where we'll wage our next stupid war. Iran? North Korea?

What is it with this country?
 
2013-03-06 12:11:58 PM
What's surprising about this?  Congress is so worried about spending and $85 billion in cuts when they appropriated $82 billion for another year of war in Afghanistan.
 
2013-03-06 12:13:50 PM

LordJiro: GiantRex: I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it

No, if there wasn't oil in the Middle East, we'd have ignored it almost completely by now. See: Africa.


Actually, yeah, that makes way more sense.
 
2013-03-06 12:14:00 PM

Ivo Shandor: "There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."  -- Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003.


My God, how f*cking retarded do you have to be to go along with that asinine bit of "logic"?

"Yeah, we can go in and blow all the sh*t up we want, Iraq has a few spare billions lying around just waiting to rebuild the country".
 
2013-03-06 12:14:09 PM

Karac: CygnusDarius: [www.steroid.com image 350x254]

Steroid users need not apply because they'll be welcome regardless.


And these guys actually changed their name a couple of time to avoid lawsuits, right?.
 
2013-03-06 12:16:46 PM

GiantRex: I love seeing numbers in reports like this one, because it helps quantify the reasoning behind asking a very important question: "Why did we do this?"

/if there wasn't oil in the middle east, we would have turned it into a glass parking lot already, and you know it


It's not about oil.  If it was about oil, we would have, um, taken it.

It's about one guy wanting to kill somebody who threatened his daddy.  That's it.
 
2013-03-06 12:17:25 PM
Well, duh. Warfare is basically very large-scale armed robbery.

In this case, we assembled a crack team of con men, safecrackers, drivers, and professional crooks, but instead of robbing three Vegas casinos, we knocked over a 7-11 that had already made its deposit for the day.
 
2013-03-06 12:17:39 PM
Money spent killing non-Caucasians is always money well spent, RIGHT REPUBLICANS???????????????????????????????
 
2013-03-06 12:18:14 PM

Sybarite: But sending pallet loads of cash into an unstable, ethnically divided country with no functioning government seemed like such a good idea at the time.

[www.tedellis.net image 719x520]


to this day i'm amazed folks 1) thought this was a good idea 2) didn't go to jail for it.

really we farked up so badly there but this is the poster child for our worst mistakes.
 
2013-03-06 12:19:04 PM

FuturePastNow: Well, duh. Warfare is basically very large-scale armed robbery.

In this case, we assembled a crack team of con men, safecrackers, drivers, and professional crooks, but instead of robbing three Vegas casinos, we knocked over a 7-11 that had already made its deposit for the day.


We were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off...
 
2013-03-06 12:20:27 PM

Ivo Shandor: "There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."  -- Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003.


this dick lick should be forced to live in Iraq outside the green zone for the rest of his pathetic life.
 
2013-03-06 12:22:36 PM
How much of Iraqs money did we seize and repatriate or use to rebuild Iraq?
 
2013-03-06 12:22:40 PM
the $60 billion we spent re-constructing Iraq, was basically all wasted, to say nothing of the $767 billion we spent DE-constructing it

The stockholders at Halliburton disagree.
 
2013-03-06 12:23:51 PM
But even still, MIC cuts are fought by the left because it will result in job losses.
 
2013-03-06 12:25:07 PM
Remember folks, one ambassador getting killed by a mob ambush is more criminal than the thousands of lives and dollars lost in the Iraq conflict and "reconstruction."
 
2013-03-06 12:26:32 PM
Trying to "reconstruct" Iraq was always a waste of time, they're not ready culturally to enter the modern world. It would make more sense to deconstruct them back to thethe bronze ageage so their technological sophistication matches their cultural sophistication.
 
2013-03-06 12:26:49 PM

Close2TheEdge: Remember folks, one ambassador getting killed by a mob ambush is more criminal than the thousands of lives and dollars lost in the Iraq conflict and "reconstruction."


Are you kidding? The former is a scandal and a crime. The latter was great and awesome and we should do it again and again and again.
 
2013-03-06 12:28:37 PM

JesusJuice: Trying to "reconstruct" Iraq was always a waste of time, they're not ready culturally to enter the modern world. It would make more sense to deconstruct them back to thethe bronze ageage so their technological sophistication matches their cultural sophistication.


I see someone else who's "not ready culturally to enter the modern world" but no one's suggesting you should be blown up.
 
2013-03-06 12:28:41 PM

JesusJuice: Trying to "reconstruct" Iraq was always a waste of time, they're not ready culturally to enter the modern world. It would make more sense to deconstruct them back to thethe bronze ageage so their technological sophistication matches their cultural sophistication.


You should be a diplomat.
 
2013-03-06 12:28:56 PM

runwiz: What's surprising about this?  Congress is so worried about spending and $85 billion in cuts when they appropriated $82 billion for another year of war in Afghanistan.


So just fire everyone in Afghanistan

/they'd probably appreciate it
 
2013-03-06 12:30:04 PM

Rev.K: Ivo Shandor: "There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."  -- Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003.

My God, how f*cking retarded do you have to be to go along with that asinine bit of "logic"?

"Yeah, we can go in and blow all the sh*t up we want, Iraq has a few spare billions lying around just waiting to rebuild the country".



The good news is this argument isn't convincing anymore, and won't work for a long time. Public opinion polling leading up to the 2012 elections showed that Ds were outpolling Rs on national security. I'm not aware if anyone's dug into this since election day, and yeah, security/foreign affairs wasn't the electorate's biggest worry in November, but still it would be fascinating to learn how many votes Romney lost because he recruited W.'s old national security policy guys...
 
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2013-03-06 12:30:44 PM
I remember when Dick Cheney said "deficits don't matter." I remember arguing with conservatives on message boards who INSISTED that deficits don't matter, and any criticism of Bush was tantamount to treason. And any criticism of the military was aiding the enemy.

It is pretty funny that Republicans have conveniently forgotten 2001-2008
 
2013-03-06 12:31:54 PM
"Sequester" is a verb. "Sequestration" is the corresponding noun. When one says "the sequester," one sounds like a moran. Not to bust  subby's chops, in particular - I've been hearing this same illiterate nonsense from professional journalists for the past couple of months, and it's infuriating. Why does no one ever embrace Second Amendment solutions for poor English usage?
 
2013-03-06 12:31:55 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Close2TheEdge: Remember folks, one ambassador getting killed by a mob ambush is more criminal than the thousands of lives and dollars lost in the Iraq conflict and "reconstruction."

Are you kidding? The former is a scandal and a crime. The latter was great and awesome and we should do it again and again and again.


Maybe if we stop invading their countries, they'll stop killing our ambassadors...

//Probably not
//Worth a try though
 
2013-03-06 12:35:20 PM
We still have enough money for Fartbongo to go golfing though, right?


whew!
 
2013-03-06 12:35:29 PM

Rev.K: My God, how f*cking retarded do you have to be to go along with that asinine bit of "logic"?


That quote comes from his testimony to the US Congress at the time, so there's your answer.
 
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