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(Some Guy)   Hugo Chavez, the champion of the poor, somehow amassed a $1 billion fortune while in office   (celebritynetworth.com) divider line 322
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2013-03-06 10:02:46 AM

1. Put snakes on plane: Folks, I present to you, "What if Jackie Harvey of The Onion wrote obituaries?"


ITEM! I promise to CAPITALIZE more words next TIME.

Also, perhaps I'll be a bit more clear that his end-game seems to have been a failure.
 
2013-03-06 10:02:57 AM
I used to love the threads where American Farkers would tell Venezuelan Farkers that Chavez really wasn't a bad guy.  Those Venezuelans just didn't know what was good for them.
 
2013-03-06 10:03:56 AM

FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.


I see you ignored the false equivalencies, red herrings, and....well, you created your own strawman, so I'll give you that.....
 
2013-03-06 10:04:06 AM
So, does anyone in here know *why* they hate Hugo Chavez?    I'd be genuinely curious to see a list of reasons that in the other thread he was being listed alongside Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.    Seems like a bunch of hyped-up bullshiat to me, but I'm just some ignorant guy waiting to be informed.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:23 AM
Will the autopsy confirm whether or not Chavez had a neck?
 
2013-03-06 10:04:52 AM

FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.

I see you ignored the false equivalencies, red herrings, and....well, you created your own strawman, so I'll give you that.....


I see you believe all Venezuelans hated Chavez.  That's awesome for you.  I'm really happy that you believe that.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:55 AM
i.imgur.com

I still need to see more proof for Chavez, but I don't quite doubt it.

Reminds me of Arafat of the Palensitnian LIberation Organization.  Amassed over a billion dollars, bribes and scraping from aid packages, while Palenstinians lived in shiat.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,995651,00.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-582487.html
 
2013-03-06 10:05:07 AM

epoc_tnac: At least in Venezuela they still have to pretend to be acting in the interests of the people.  In the USA the politicians can't even muster the energy to do that.


Shut up and smile for that red light camera, would you?
 
2013-03-06 10:05:25 AM

factoryconnection: He wanted to do a lot for the little guy, but also did much for himself.


That's like saying Hitler wanted world peace so he started a bigass war to kill everyone that could disrupt world peace
 
2013-03-06 10:05:52 AM

FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.


When Pelosi kicks off there will be dancing in the streets!
 
2013-03-06 10:06:32 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.

When Pelosi kicks off there will be dancing in the streets!


American politicians die, meh.  They are all capitalist swine.
 
2013-03-06 10:06:34 AM

FarkedOver: FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.

I see you ignored the false equivalencies, red herrings, and....well, you created your own strawman, so I'll give you that.....

I see you believe all Venezuelans hated Chavez.  That's awesome for you.  I'm really happy that you believe that.


Another strawman!  Nice!  No, I said I enjoyed the threads where Venezuelan Farkers.....

I like Venezuela and all, but I'm going to go ahead and assume not all Venezuelans are on Fark.
 
2013-03-06 10:06:39 AM
Venezuela is a shiathole, I worked in Caracas in
1990  = Mad Max
2000  = Road Warrior
2010  = Thunderdome

He won the popular vote by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, or so it seems.  He nationalized foreign business under the guise of getting the evil gringo infidels out of the country.  From telecom to grocery stores.  Most recently the Colombian chain Exito was grabbed and "given" to the people.

The majority of his gifts did not come from his coffers, but from those of others.
 
2013-03-06 10:06:43 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Chavez's rule looked like something out of Woody Allen's Bananas. There must be something in the water down there that turns a champion of the people into a ruthless dictator as soon as they get power a hot meal, decent clothes and some hookers.

ftfy

 
2013-03-06 10:07:24 AM

epoc_tnac: So, does anyone in here know *why* they hate Hugo Chavez?    I'd be genuinely curious to see a list of reasons that in the other thread he was being listed alongside Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.    Seems like a bunch of hyped-up bullshiat to me, but I'm just some ignorant guy waiting to be informed.


Well, for one, he had his legislature repeatedly pass "enabling laws" that allowed him to rule by decree.  Chavez signed a paper--new law.  No vote.

Imagine if the Congress did that for a US president.  (Thankfully, I have a little faith left in the system and believe that most Congresscritters, even of the same party, would vote against such a measure.)
 
2013-03-06 10:07:34 AM

FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.

I see you ignored the false equivalencies, red herrings, and....well, you created your own strawman, so I'll give you that.....

I see you believe all Venezuelans hated Chavez.  That's awesome for you.  I'm really happy that you believe that.

Another strawman!  Nice!  No, I said I enjoyed the threads where Venezuelan Farkers.....

I like Venezuela and all, but I'm going to go ahead and assume not all Venezuelans are on Fark.


So then you had no real point you were just typing for the sake of typing.  Cool.
 
2013-03-06 10:07:43 AM
My wife is Venezuelan and we just had family visit. The news broke just after they arrived, so much for the scotch in the house. Chavez has been terrible to his middle class of which my family was a part. They were very happy to hear the news. It's an amazing country with a wonderful diverse population. I sure hope things get better.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:11 AM

theflatline: Venezuela is a shiathole, I worked in Caracas in
1990  = Mad Max
2000  = Road Warrior
2010  = Thunderdome

He won the popular vote by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, or so it seems.  He nationalized foreign business under the guise of getting the evil gringo infidels out of the country.  From telecom to grocery stores.  Most recently the Colombian chain Exito was grabbed and "given" to the people.

The majority of his gifts did not come from his coffers, but from those of others.


Well, lets be totally honest, Santa Claus doesn't actually make all those toys he hands out every year either.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:12 AM

theflatline: He won the popular vote by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor


I'm ok with this.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:35 AM
"Moon Over Parador" was a more realistic version of a banana-republic dictatorship.
Chavez just couldn't pull off the character as well as Richard Dreyfuss.

Plus it had Sammy Davis, Jr. and Charro. It was practically an episode of "The Love Boat."


/R.I.P Raul Julia
 
2013-03-06 10:09:05 AM

dogdaze: My wife is Venezuelan and we just had family visit. The news broke just after they arrived, so much for the scotch in the house. Chavez has been terrible to his middle class of which my family was a part. They were very happy to hear the news. It's an amazing country with a wonderful diverse population. I sure hope things get better.


The scotch is always in danger when latin americans are present.  They view it as some sort of ambrosia, they would have found an excuse to drink it anyway. :)
 
2013-03-06 10:09:54 AM

snocone: I, for one, am just so suprised that he squirreled away  embezzeled $500M.

I am certain that the $250M will go to a good cause.


THIS.  We'll see all of that $100 million handed to charity in 3...2...

/sees what you did there
 
2013-03-06 10:10:06 AM

epoc_tnac: So, does anyone in here know *why* they hate Hugo Chavez?    I'd be genuinely curious to see a list of reasons that in the other thread he was being listed alongside Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.    Seems like a bunch of hyped-up bullshiat to me, but I'm just some ignorant guy waiting to be informed.


Because he set democracy is South America back dramatically while at the same time claiming to be democratic.  He wasn't as brutal of a dictator as Saddam, but he was very similar: suppressed his enemies, suppressed democracy, used oil as a tool for personal gain at the expense of his nation, used the same style of international PR, etc
 
2013-03-06 10:10:08 AM

skinink: Will Dennis Rodman be giving the eulogy?


To befFollowed up with a stirring version of Amazing Grace, sung by Cindy Sheehan.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:38 AM

epoc_tnac: So, does anyone in here know *why* they hate Hugo Chavez?    I'd be genuinely curious to see a list of reasons that in the other thread he was being listed alongside Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.    Seems like a bunch of hyped-up bullshiat to me, but I'm just some ignorant guy waiting to be informed.


He was a dickhead and a corrupt as hell dictator, but certainly not the only one.  He's probably a little better than Hussein, but certainly not as bad as Bin Laden.  He's hyped-up because he so frequently criticized the US and tried to stymie our elite's interests.  And usually tried to do it in a particularly AW sort of way.  So he got a lot of press.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:44 AM

theflatline: Most recently the Colombian chain Exito was grabbed and "given" to the people.


I'm also ok with this.  Fark the Colombian government.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:55 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: When Pelosi kicks off there will be dancing in the streets!


She can't die.  Great healthcare.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:57 AM

WordsnCollision: /Two dbags, one photo


It's like Penn goes out of his way to be a douche.  His group is probably doing some good in Hati, a problem that the world can't seem to get excited about, but there are just days where he needs a pimp slapping.
 
2013-03-06 10:11:48 AM
Why can't a billionaire champion the poor? Championing the poor isn't the same as championing poverty.
 
2013-03-06 10:12:23 AM

FarkedOver: FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.

I see you ignored the false equivalencies, red herrings, and....well, you created your own strawman, so I'll give you that.....

I see you believe all Venezuelans hated Chavez.  That's awesome for you.  I'm really happy that you believe that.

Another strawman!  Nice!  No, I said I enjoyed the threads where Venezuelan Farkers.....

I like Venezuela and all, but I'm going to go ahead and assume not all Venezuelans are on Fark.

So then you had no real point you were just typing for the sake of typing.  Cool.


As opposed to this statement, which will live forever in the halls of infamy.

Get over yourself.  Your Robin Hood schtick is straight out of some community college sociology professor's curriculum.  You sound really sad and miserable.
 
2013-03-06 10:12:52 AM

theflatline: The scotch is always in danger when latin americans are present. They view it as some sort of ambrosia, they would have found an excuse to drink it anyway. :)


If you put some Indians on the other side of the bottle you would have a show.

/by Indians I mean dot not feather.
//I had to be clear so not to be racist.
 
2013-03-06 10:13:03 AM

FarkedOver: Lot of right wing glee in this thread.  I cannot wait until Margaret Thatcher dies.


the difference is, conservatives can die filthy wealthy and not be hypocrites.
 
2013-03-06 10:13:05 AM

FarkedOver: theflatline: Most recently the Colombian chain Exito was grabbed and "given" to the people.

I'm also ok with this.  Fark the Colombian government.


Why?
 
2013-03-06 10:13:26 AM

JohnAnnArbor: epoc_tnac: So, does anyone in here know *why* they hate Hugo Chavez?    I'd be genuinely curious to see a list of reasons that in the other thread he was being listed alongside Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.    Seems like a bunch of hyped-up bullshiat to me, but I'm just some ignorant guy waiting to be informed.

Well, for one, he had his legislature repeatedly pass "enabling laws" that allowed him to rule by decree.  Chavez signed a paper--new law.  No vote.

Imagine if the Congress did that for a US president.  (Thankfully, I have a little faith left in the system and believe that most Congresscritters, even of the same party, would vote against such a measure.)


Okay, well that's a start.  Let's go all out and say he changed the law to make himself a dictator.  And then, what evil deeds did he get up to with his new powers?  If you want to be part of the modern-day axis of evil, it's not enough to just change the law to give you the *ability* to be evil.  You have to actually do something evil.

So - let's hear it.
 
2013-03-06 10:14:37 AM
He was just saving it for the poor because they are too stupid to spend it themselves, and he needed that money to entertain Sean Penn
 
2013-03-06 10:15:03 AM

FLMountainMan: FarkedOver: theflatline: Most recently the Colombian chain Exito was grabbed and "given" to the people.

I'm also ok with this.  Fark the Colombian government.

Why?


Right-wing hit squads.  Collusion with the US government to propagate the cocaine trade.
 
2013-03-06 10:17:46 AM
So the CIA decided they wanted Hugo dead.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:00 AM

FullMetalPanda: I'm sure he was going to will it to the people but died before he could update his will.

One thing, you look at him and Kim from Best Korea... they fat.  You look at Putin and he's in shape and skinny.  The skinny guy is the one you need to be afraid of in my opinion in regards to dictators for life...


Yon Cassius  has a lean and hungry look - he thinks too much, and such men are dangerous.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:21 AM

FLMountainMan: Get over yourself. Your Robin Hood schtick is straight out of some community college sociology professor's curriculum. You sound really sad and miserable.


I judge Chavez from a Marxist point of view.  Was he a great Marxist? No, he wasn't.  Was he the best hope for the disenfranchised and the poor of Venezuela? Yes he was.  I believe the nationalization of the oil companies helped the poor in more ways than a market driven company could have.  Even the people of the US could say this is true, well at least the 250,000 low income people of New England that got free home heating oil from the Venezuelan government.

He was not the "dictator" or the "boogeyman" that everyone makes him out to be.  Hell after there was a US supported "coup" of Chavez the people went on strike and DEMANDED he be put back in power.  This doesn't sound like something an oppressed people would do.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:23 AM
I thought Victor Hugo was dead?
 
2013-03-06 10:19:24 AM
Not sure how "Links lullen, rechts vullen" translates into English, but you sure see these "lefties" amass cash through nefarious means a lot.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:25 AM
What fascinates me is that we are talking about his personal failings and not the fact that he survived a coup attempt by business elites bankrolled and armed by America.  He survived the coup because the entire nation rose up to support him.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:36 AM

FarkedOver: theflatline: He won the popular vote by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor

I'm ok with this.


Im sure you have something I want but cant afford mind if I swing by later and pick it up? You worked for it and Im entitled to it
 
2013-03-06 10:20:02 AM

FLMountainMan: I used to love the threads where American Farkers would tell Venezuelan Farkers that Chavez really wasn't a bad guy.  Those Venezuelans just didn't know what was good for them.


Were you here in yesterday's thread? It was that times elevnty.
 
2013-03-06 10:20:19 AM

epoc_tnac: So, does anyone in here know *why* they hate Hugo Chavez?    I'd be genuinely curious to see a list of reasons that in the other thread he was being listed alongside Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.    Seems like a bunch of hyped-up bullshiat to me, but I'm just some ignorant guy waiting to be informed.


American politicians say he's a bad man for not cooperating with "American" corporations. That's pretty much it.
 
2013-03-06 10:21:28 AM

Clash City Farker: So the CIA decided they wanted Hugo dead.


Actually, it appears that a colony of microscopic organisms wanted him dead.
 
2013-03-06 10:21:41 AM

bhcompy: factoryconnection: He wanted to do a lot for the little guy, but also did much for himself.

That's like saying Hitler wanted world peace so he started a bigass war to kill everyone that could disrupt world peace


Wat.

Chavez wanted to alleviate poverty and so he created a bunch of social programs to help the poor.  He was just bad at it and a lot of his work ended up being "big idea, shoddy execution" that hasn't benefited anyone but him in the long run.

How the hell does that jib with your statement?  Also: Godwinning, really?

FLMountainMan: He was a dickhead and a corrupt as hell dictator, but certainly not the only one. He's probably a little better than Hussein, but certainly not as bad as Bin Laden. He's hyped-up because he so frequently criticized the US and tried to stymie our elite's interests. And usually tried to do it in a particularly AW sort of way. So he got a lot of press.


Wait, in which war did Chavez take over a neighboring country?  In which war did he use chem/bio weapons, including on his own people?  And at what point did Bin Laden become a dictator?

I mean, jeez, Chavez was a corrupt, self-serving, anti-US blowhard but have I missed all this behavior?  It is possible.
 
2013-03-06 10:22:02 AM

Onkel Buck: FarkedOver: theflatline: He won the popular vote by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor

I'm ok with this.

Im sure you have something I want but cant afford mind if I swing by later and pick it up? You worked for it and Im entitled to it


No. Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.
 
2013-03-06 10:22:20 AM
Where's MNGuy?  Apparently he took a few trips to Venezuela, so he probably is familiar with Chavez's personal finances, and us stupid Americans just don't get it.  Just ask him.
 
2013-03-06 10:22:35 AM
Pact in the sun
Slum and skyscraper meet
Billion dollar penthouse
And people on the street
Pact in the sun
Shade by foreign debt
Amnesia in the Sambadrome
King bandits gonna sweat

Three months of freedom
A fugitive from the law
Got to take him alive
Chè martyr no more
Bless the little children
With nylon football shorts
Fly their kites as warning
Their King is never caught

Socialised by compassion
Yeach crime`s his occupation
King bandit for president
Of the sambadrome nation

source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/b/badbigaudiodynamitelyrics/sambadromel y rics.html
 
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