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(Fox News)   This could be it, folks: Sequestergate. Leaked email shows that Obama has been deliberately trying to make the sequester a bad thing   (foxnews.com) divider line 469
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2013-03-06 10:02:25 AM
I've been wondering where the GOP was going to take this since they been repeating the line that even though the cuts won't be even the slightest bit bad its still all of Obama's doing.

And now we know that when the cuts start to take effect the right wing talking point will be that Obama made the cuts bad. Essentially " but he cut the wrong things!".

Just watch.
 
2013-03-06 10:02:38 AM

I_C_Weener: I_C_Weener: St_Francis_P: The talking points are always a little confusing, but lately they're just flat contradictory. The sequester is and isn't bad, but the government is hoarding bullets to shoot patriots who riot because of the sequester, but the GOP wanted to cut spending the whole time, but it's Obama's fault. There, did I cover all the salient points?

It was Obama's idea.  It was designed to punish, not cut.  It has military spending cuts in it (not just cuts to future increases) and yet the Democrats aren't happy with that either.

Now, I think we've got it.

Oh, and Republicans already gave in on Tax Increases, now it is time for the Democrats to give in on spending cuts.


You are everything that is wrong with this website.
 
2013-03-06 10:03:25 AM
By the way, Subby, the approved scandal reporting convention we're using these days is to replace the suffix -gate with -ghazi.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:04 AM
The President has the power to choose where to make these cuts. He wants to punish the American people as much as possible so he can blame others. WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make -s equester-painful-promised/
 
2013-03-06 10:04:06 AM
Worst president ever in the history of this country!!  Never thought Carter could be topped but congratulations!
 
2013-03-06 10:04:15 AM
So Obama is also  an Agriculture Department field officer?
Damn, that guy can multitask!

That being said, the email says that congress was already told what the cuts would be and not to contradict that. To extrapolate anything more is just typical republican Benghaziism.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:32 AM

Smackledorfer: You are everything that is wrong with this website.


Why do you want to shut down a fark moderator's opinions, just because they are at odds with objective observable reality?
 
2013-03-06 10:05:29 AM

Yakk: This is Obama's New Coke.


This is Obama's Jar Jar Binks
 
2013-03-06 10:05:36 AM

I_C_Weener: somedude210: Well, sequester really is a bad thing, and anyone who thinks that blindly cutting our way to prosperity isn't a bad thing should be smacked around with my furlough notice

Take a 20% pay cut and get back to me how your spending isn't affected by it

Those of us in the private sector have been dealing with that for years now.


But lazy government employees with outrageous perks paid for by people in the private sector are more important because FARK YOU.
 
2013-03-06 10:05:53 AM

s2s2s2: Protip: Don't propose a solution that is exactly what the GOP wants, and exactly what you don't want.


Difficulty: Enough of the GOP are anti-sequester that there could probably be a good compromise struck with House Dems if Boehner wasn't committed to being a dick over it. He wants the "win", and the sequester - if it's dealt with at all before the furloughs start - will probably be handled after the CR is hammered out.

// another question: when will the GOP learn that being dogmatically anti-spending means when furloughs or shutdowns happen over spending, people will blame you, PR or no PR
 
2013-03-06 10:06:39 AM
Obama will never be elected again.
 
2013-03-06 10:06:47 AM
Cut the conservatives some slack and let them hem and haw about how Obama is making the sequester sound worse than it is. This is their baby, and their gloating will make it sweeter when it starts shiatting all over them in a few months.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:22 AM

log_jammin: I've been wondering where the GOP was going to take this since they been repeating the line that even though the cuts won't be even the slightest bit bad its still all of Obama's doing.

And now we know that when the cuts start to take effect the right wing talking point will be that Obama made the cuts bad. Essentially " but he cut the wrong things!".

Just watch.


Republicans don't even have the balls to cut the programs they hate. They biatch all day about entitlements but lie when running for office about how they are really looking out for granny.

They talk about cutting loopholes but won't tell you which.

I hate this planet sometimes. So much stupid.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:23 AM

SVenus: Obama will never be elected again.


Even now, he's preparing to declare martial law, and himself president for life. Prove me wrong - you can't!

Deal with it, libbo.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:35 AM

tony41454: WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.


clane: Worst president ever in the history of this country!!  Never thought Carter could be topped but congratulations!


Awkward, two shills repeating the same thing in the same thread.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:47 AM
Repubs break vase.
Obama doesn't sweep the mess under a rug
Repubs: "Obama is making it worse!  On purpose!"
 
2013-03-06 10:08:50 AM
I see the Hyperbole Battalion of the Outrage Brigade has arrived...

Tally-ho, Dipshiats.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:34 AM

jehovahs witness protection: But lazy government employees with outrageous perks paid for by people in the private sector are more important because FARK YOU.


what outrageous perks that private sector doesn't get?
 
2013-03-06 10:10:56 AM

GAT_00: JerseyTim: I feel like we're spending about 99.9% of the time arguing about why there is a sequester and who is responsible and .1% of the time trying to do something about it.

Which we wouldn't have to if Boehner hadn't decided to rewrite history and the media let him.


His point hardly needed proving.
 
2013-03-06 10:11:37 AM
How dare they conspire together to stay on message.

How dare they!

Obama is the worst dictator since Stalin!!
 
2013-03-06 10:12:07 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: BillCo: It's called the Washington Memorial Strategy.

And, we really don't need the memo to prove that Obama is engaging in it.  He shut down tours of the White House for fark's sake.  Can't get much more transparent than that.  He is doing everything in his power to make the American public think that this is still the end of the world.

It's pretty sad when the President of the United States resorts to such childish tactics to scare the American people.  Whatever happened to the concept of leadership?

Are public tours of the White House a vital function of the Federal Government? That seems like a pretty smart cut to me.


Tours are done by volunteers...AND COST NOTHING
 
2013-03-06 10:12:12 AM
No shiat they are playing politics over it, that's what politicians do.
 
2013-03-06 10:14:00 AM
Obama is the worst 'worst president' in history.
 
2013-03-06 10:14:22 AM

Headso: No shiat they are playing politics over it, that's what politicians do.


ya know, the other possibility here is that Obama simply decided to get the hell outta the way and let the GOP fall flat on their faces yet again.  if I were the GOP that'd make me mad as hell.
 
2013-03-06 10:15:11 AM
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2013-03-06 10:15:21 AM

somedude210: jehovahs witness protection: But lazy government employees with outrageous perks paid for by people in the private sector are more important because FARK YOU.

what outrageous perks that private sector doesn't get?


Lower pay, guaranteed* seniority (and pay increases), better benefits, it's harder to fire (some of) them (sometimes), guaranteed telework (thanks Obama)...

// the pay increases are still below-market until you hit long-term
 
2013-03-06 10:15:30 AM
The brave patriot who leaked this email is clearly showing us 0bamao's nefarious plot. By painting the cutting of jobs, spending, funding & education as a bad thing this dastardly regime is shining a spotlight on the facts about the sequester. The American people don't deserve an administration that would enforce the legislation that the representatives of the people agreed to. What happened to my country? Pray for this once great nation. God bless.
www.tedhickman.com
 
2013-03-06 10:15:37 AM

tony41454: The President has the power to choose where to make these cuts. He wants to punish the American people as much as possible so he can blame others. WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make -s equester-painful-promised/


Nope. Congress specified across-the-board cuts.

Here is the language from the law:
"Each non-exempt account within a category shall be reduced by a dollar amount calculated by multiplying the enacted level of sequestrable budgetary resources in that account at that time by the uniform percentage necessary to eliminate a breach within that category."

/ Protip: The Washington Times is not a credible source.
 
2013-03-06 10:15:40 AM

Dr Dreidel: when will the GOP learn


The GOP doesn't like to participate in demonic shiat like "learning".
All they need to know is that they are incapable of misunderestimating the will of all mighty fa**ot-hating god!
 
2013-03-06 10:15:41 AM

theknuckler_33: Obama is the worst 'worst president' in history.


how so?
 
2013-03-06 10:16:41 AM

Smackledorfer: Republicans don't even have the balls to cut the programs they hate.


I think one of the reasons they decided to let the sequester pass is because they were able to get massive cuts across the board while retaining a political out ("It was Obama's idea!"). They must be well aware of how unpopular their policy is, so the sequester was the perfect opportunity to implement some fiscal austerity while avoiding the level of flack they would get if they just passed a bill with those kinds of cuts.
 
2013-03-06 10:16:54 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Shut the fark up, Fox, nobody cares.


Ah, let them whine. They and every other member of the GOP are still recovering from Nov 2012 when the electoral college told them: "Bite the Pillow, I'm going in Dry."
 
2013-03-06 10:16:56 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Philip Francis Queeg: BillCo: It's called the Washington Memorial Strategy.

And, we really don't need the memo to prove that Obama is engaging in it.  He shut down tours of the White House for fark's sake.  Can't get much more transparent than that.  He is doing everything in his power to make the American public think that this is still the end of the world.

It's pretty sad when the President of the United States resorts to such childish tactics to scare the American people.  Whatever happened to the concept of leadership?

Are public tours of the White House a vital function of the Federal Government? That seems like a pretty smart cut to me.

Tours are done by volunteers...AND COST NOTHING


The reservation process, tickets and security are all provided wholly without cost? Amazing.
 
2013-03-06 10:17:21 AM

tony41454: The President has the power to choose where to make these cuts. He wants to punish the American people as much as possible so he can blame others. WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make -s equester-painful-promised/




But Tony, according to you, "he's going to be Impeached because he's not a REAL president anyway, and just the House-Negro in chief"
 
2013-03-06 10:17:29 AM
I wonder if there is a connection between sequester, and the all time DJI high.
 
2013-03-06 10:17:37 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Tours are done by volunteers...AND COST NOTHING


I see the AM radio false talking points are out.
 
2013-03-06 10:17:46 AM
Outstanding

70 posts in and absolutely nobody has actually address the article.  Someone posted a copy of the email mentioned in the article, but then asked about "Lucy"  Many here will moan about people working together, then post crap about "the other side".  In the same post complaining about the other side only looking to place blame, the poster then tries to place blame.

Good job, keep at it
 
2013-03-06 10:17:50 AM

make me some tea: How dare they conspire together to stay on message.

How dare they!

Obama is the worst dictator since Stalin!!


And the least effective pres empty suit ever. Remembrr how congressional failures and filibusters were really his fault because he couldn't use his position to make republicans sane?

I heard that on fark so farking much last year.

Ugh. I'm out.
 
2013-03-06 10:18:12 AM

s2s2s2: I wonder if there is a connection between sequester, and the all time DJI high.


It's a bubble. Investors are clearly on drugs. I wouldn't buy any stock right now, it's all overpriced.
 
2013-03-06 10:18:39 AM
Leaked email adds fuel to claims White House playing politics over impact of cuts

Because the Right wold NEVER play politics over ANYthing, they're far too mature, and they value country over Party.

Right??
 
2013-03-06 10:19:02 AM
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling politics is going on in here!
 
2013-03-06 10:19:13 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Tours are done by volunteers...AND COST NOTHING


I'm sure you're incorrect, since I have frequently been informed that government is always super-expensive and worse at things than private businesses.

Therefore, a private business should just build their OWN whitehouse that they can provide tours of. PROBLEM SOLVED.
 
2013-03-06 10:19:31 AM

Mikey1969: Leaked email adds fuel to claims White House playing politics over impact of cuts

Because the Right wold NEVER play politics over ANYthing, they're far too mature, and they value country over Party.

Right??


So this is perfectly fine, and everyone should keep doing this?
 
2013-03-06 10:19:41 AM
Conservatives called for an elimination of the entire Department of Agriculture before as proposed by the Cato Institute.   http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2011/07/29/take-chains a w-budget-2

They should be happy with this cut as it's a step in the direction of their policy goals.
 
2013-03-06 10:20:10 AM

Munchausen's Proxy: Outstanding

70 posts in and absolutely nobody has actually address the article.  Someone posted a copy of the email mentioned in the article, but then asked about "Lucy"  Many here will moan about people working together, then post crap about "the other side".  In the same post complaining about the other side only looking to place blame, the poster then tries to place blame.

Good job, keep at it


So why didn't you comment on the article?
 
2013-03-06 10:20:39 AM

Weaver95: theknuckler_33: Obama is the worst 'worst president' in history.

how so?


By not being very bad?

Unless you take 'worst worst' as implying 'the best', then yea, that's not right... but he's pretty bad at being the worst president in history.
 
2013-03-06 10:21:01 AM

Raharu: But Tony, according to you, "he's going to be Impeached because he's not a REAL president anyway, and just the House-Negro in chief"


Did he really say that?
 
2013-03-06 10:21:15 AM

somedude210: Well, sequester really is a bad thing, and anyone who thinks that blindly cutting our way to prosperity isn't a bad thing should be smacked around with my furlough notice

Take a 20% pay cut and get back to me how your spending isn't affected by it


Get a real job in the private sector.
 
2013-03-06 10:21:41 AM
A quick check shows only the right wing sites are making much of the "leaked email" so far. It's hard to take their outrage seriously after years of steady anti-Obama mouth-foaming. But sequestration cuts like shutting down White House tours do seem silly and punitive. We'll no doubt be seeing a lot more of that.
 
2013-03-06 10:22:19 AM

jaybeezey: somedude210: Well, sequester really is a bad thing, and anyone who thinks that blindly cutting our way to prosperity isn't a bad thing should be smacked around with my furlough notice

Take a 20% pay cut and get back to me how your spending isn't affected by it

Get a real job in the private sector.


Cause fark the troops! Ameyerite?!?!
 
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