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2013-03-06 09:17:43 AM  
Our local Fox Sports affiliate does a great job with the local sports it puts out there.  Beyond that, what's the point?
 
2013-03-06 09:18:31 AM  
ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies
 
2013-03-06 09:27:00 AM  

Hang On Voltaire: ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies


This. Also, the time is actually perfect right now. It'll be tough to find inroads with the NFL, but I think they can do it.
 
2013-03-06 09:27:33 AM  
As dreadful as FOX's NASCAR coverage is, they do great stuff with UFC and NFL. I think their plan is a good one, and this fight fan welcomes it entirely.
 
2013-03-06 09:27:42 AM  
It's kind of scary to think that, as big as sports has become, it's only going to get bigger. Live sports are the only guaranteed rating now. Can you imagine the bidding war Fox/CBS/ESPN/NBC are going to have for the various NFL packages next time those contracts come up?
 
2013-03-06 09:29:24 AM  
I'm more concerned about the Forumula 1 broadcast schedule on NBCSN. I haven't seen any details yet and we're a week away from the first Grand Prix!
 
2013-03-06 09:30:07 AM  

Hang On Voltaire: ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies


Are they able to soak the cable/satellite companies because of SportsCenter or because of MNF, college football, college basketball, MLB, etc.?
 
2013-03-06 09:31:03 AM  

Hang On Voltaire: ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies


It sure as hell isn't going to be Fox Sports.  They've never been able to get their shiat together; it's a collection of specialized regional networks and a "dedicated auto racing" channel that's about to get a SPike TV-type overhaul that will ruin it.

Hopefully, NBC Sports will improve.  I'm already happy with their random football documentaries - they had one last month on the history of labor relations in the NFL.  Later this month we'll see how they handle Formula 1, but in all honestly a bag of cat turds can call an F1 race better than Bob Varsha.
 
2013-03-06 09:31:31 AM  

jayhawk88: It's kind of scary to think that, as big as sports has become, it's only going to get bigger. Live sports are the only guaranteed rating now. Can you imagine the bidding war Fox/CBS/ESPN/NBC are going to have for the various NFL packages next time those contracts come up?


Plus, if someone can work out an Internet streaming deal for it... I know plenty of people who ONLY keep cable because they can watch live sports on FoxSports and ESPN.
 
2013-03-06 09:32:37 AM  
 
2013-03-06 09:35:40 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It sure as hell isn't going to be Fox Sports.  They've never been able to get their shiat together; it's a collection of specialized regional networks and a "dedicated auto racing" channel that's about to get a SPike TV-type overhaul that will ruin it.


the thing is some of those local networks are really good (what I saw from the Michigan one was great) and some are not so great (the bay area, FS west were strange but I've only seen a little).  I wonder if they keep those going with a centralized network that broadcasts certain timeslots.

I'm interested at least.
 
2013-03-06 09:36:49 AM  

meanmutton: jayhawk88: It's kind of scary to think that, as big as sports has become, it's only going to get bigger. Live sports are the only guaranteed rating now. Can you imagine the bidding war Fox/CBS/ESPN/NBC are going to have for the various NFL packages next time those contracts come up?

Plus, if someone can work out an Internet streaming deal for it... I know plenty of people who ONLY keep cable because they can watch live sports on FoxSports and ESPN.


i dropped mine a while back, but yeah this is making it painful, especially since ESPN3 turned to shiat. I keep thinking, though, that someone is about ready to throw a big old wrench into the whole cable tv model, whether it's Apple, Amazon, or someone like Disney going rogue.
 
2013-03-06 09:39:46 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Hang On Voltaire: ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies

It sure as hell isn't going to be Fox Sports.  They've never been able to get their shiat together; it's a collection of specialized regional networks and a "dedicated auto racing" channel that's about to get a SPike TV-type overhaul that will ruin it.

Hopefully, NBC Sports will improve.  I'm already happy with their random football documentaries - they had one last month on the history of labor relations in the NFL.  Later this month we'll see how they handle Formula 1, but in all honestly a bag of cat turds can call an F1 race better than Bob Varsha.


Just looked. F1 Race is live on Sunday March 17 at 1:30 AM. Rebroadcast later on Sunday at 1 PM.
 
2013-03-06 09:42:34 AM  

jayhawk88: especially since ESPN3 turned to shiat.


Yeah, this really pissed me off. They don't broadcast anything anymore, aside from the occasional cricket match from Uzbekistan and a high school basketball game that nobody gives a f*ck about.
 
2013-03-06 09:52:47 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Hang On Voltaire: ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies

It sure as hell isn't going to be Fox Sports.  They've never been able to get their shiat together; it's a collection of specialized regional networks and a "dedicated auto racing" channel that's about to get a SPike TV-type overhaul that will ruin it.

Hopefully, NBC Sports will improve.  I'm already happy with their random football documentaries - they had one last month on the history of labor relations in the NFL.  Later this month we'll see how they handle Formula 1, but in all honestly a bag of cat turds can call an F1 race better than Bob Varsha.


FOX has NASCAR in the spring (when people pay attention), a lot of mid-week college football, and exclusive rights to UFC. They're going to be formidable, the only question is to what degree.
 
2013-03-06 10:01:09 AM  

soopey: UNC_Samurai: Hang On Voltaire: ESPN definitely needs some competition.  They are soaking the cable/satellite companies

It sure as hell isn't going to be Fox Sports.  They've never been able to get their shiat together; it's a collection of specialized regional networks and a "dedicated auto racing" channel that's about to get a SPike TV-type overhaul that will ruin it.

Hopefully, NBC Sports will improve.  I'm already happy with their random football documentaries - they had one last month on the history of labor relations in the NFL.  Later this month we'll see how they handle Formula 1, but in all honestly a bag of cat turds can call an F1 race better than Bob Varsha.

Just looked. F1 Race is live on Sunday March 17 at 1:30 AM. Rebroadcast later on Sunday at 1 PM.


This is now an F1 thread.

I'm planning on sleeping that afternoon so I can be awake to watch.  This is going to be an interesting season, even if the teams are trying to spend as much time jockeying to be ready for next season's engine changes.  I think we're going to see Perez win a race, Bottas is going to surprise everyone, and Mercedes will make a run at Red Bull for the Constructor's.  And I'm anxious to see if someone like Massa, Vergne, or Pic underperforms, if Kobiyashi will get a second chance.
 
2013-03-06 10:02:31 AM  
You do have to respect FOX's track record so far though as stated.... turning a little TV network in the late 80s into a first place network within 15 years or so.... turning their news network into the #1 news network (whether you agree with their slant or not, it is).... they can show they can do it.

No, it probably won't be on ESPN's heels in 2, 3, 4 years, but, by the 2020's, I won't be shocked if we are looking at ESPN the way we look at CNN right now.
 
2013-03-06 10:06:04 AM  

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2013-03-06 10:15:47 AM  
Although, SPEED becoming "FS1" is another in a long line of networks that started out very "focused", and are now becoming more "homogenized".

At one point, the "dream" of Cable TV was that because we now had dozens or even 100s of networks, each network could be very focused and just deliver a specific type of programming.  But, as we've seen across a wide variety of channel types, instead of keeping with that model, they have all devolved into clones of each other..... in the entertainment realm they all are a bunch of networks with maybe a few original shows, some reruns of old shows, and a bunch of usually lame reality shows.    In the sports realm, every major player has cannibalized a specialized channel to turn it into their own "ESPN" (Outdoor Life Network->NBCSN, College Sports TV->CBSSN, SPEED -> FS1).   I guess one would say though that the internet and internet video streaming has taken over that "focused" angle that cable was supposed to be.
 
2013-03-06 10:26:23 AM  
If I got the ESPN News channel, I'd never watch SportsCenter again.
 
2013-03-06 10:30:40 AM  
Can't wait for weekly episodes of Bill O'Reilly's All Star Bloopers
 
2013-03-06 10:34:50 AM  
UNC_Samurai:
This is now an F1 thread.

I'm planning on sleeping that afternoon so I can be awake to watch.  This is going to be an interesting season, even if the teams are trying to spend as much time jockeying to be ready for next season's engine changes.  I think we're going to see Perez win a race, Bottas is going to surprise everyone, and Mercedes will make a run at Red Bull for the Constructor's.  And I'm anxious to see if someone like Massa, Vergne, or Pic underperforms, if Kobiyashi will get a second chance.


There will be some seriously interesting story lines to start the year. I think we'll see Lotus, Sauber and/or Williams take another large step forward and be jockeying for the top spots in the constructors championship along with RB, Ferrari, McClarren, and possibly even Mercedes. I don't mean outright win, but Lotus or Sauber placing second would be a huge coup for them and their sponsors.

With the stable rules. everything in these cars will be tweaked within a millimeter of their lives. I wonder if we'll see some reliability issues early as teams push extra hard at the beginning to get out in front.
 
2013-03-06 10:57:27 AM  
Remember when MTV played music videos. Something something something ESPN.
 
2013-03-06 11:16:08 AM  

the biggest redneck here: FOX has NASCAR in the spring (when people pay attention), a lot of mid-week college football, and exclusive rights to UFC. They're going to be formidable, the only question is to what degree.



also exclusive rights to EPL / Champion's League.

i know, i know, 'LOL SOCCER IS GAY LOL', that's fine, but they will get TONS of eyeballs for that alone.  jay mohr had a quote yesterday where he's like "keep in mind, sports fans, the first two years of the Fox Sports Empire, soccer or 'futbol' will be paying the freight for the network.  you have no idea how many viewers they'll get for that alone."
 
2013-03-06 11:32:49 AM  
Has Olbermann already been hired/ fired by this new network?
 
2013-03-06 11:43:22 AM  
I watched Scott Hansen (Hockey East official) take a puck in the eye during the Beanpot 2009. I laughed because he's genuinely a terrible referee.  Karma came back to bite me when he was in the replay booth and disallowed a legitimate UMass Lowell goal during the Hockey East Championship game because he inferred the "on ice official had intended to blow the whistle and the replay booth didn't have sound so he couldn't determine when play actually stopped."

/Still hate him.
// All HEA refs and linesmen have to wear a visor now.
 
2013-03-06 12:46:42 PM  
All Fox would need to do in order to be better in every way than ESPN, is to copy exactly what ESPN was doing 20 years ago.
 
2013-03-06 01:03:12 PM  

dletter: Although, SPEED becoming "FS1" is another in a long line of networks that started out very "focused", and are now becoming more "homogenized".

At one point, the "dream" of Cable TV was that because we now had dozens or even 100s of networks, each network could be very focused and just deliver a specific type of programming.  But, as we've seen across a wide variety of channel types, instead of keeping with that model, they have all devolved into clones of each other..... in the entertainment realm they all are a bunch of networks with maybe a few original shows, some reruns of old shows, and a bunch of usually lame reality shows.    In the sports realm, every major player has cannibalized a specialized channel to turn it into their own "ESPN" (Outdoor Life Network->NBCSN, College Sports TV->CBSSN, SPEED -> FS1).   I guess one would say though that the internet and internet video streaming has taken over that "focused" angle that cable was supposed to be.


Channel drift.

TV Tropes
 
2013-03-06 01:05:49 PM  

mikaloyd: All Fox would need to do in order to be better in every way than ESPN, is to copy exactly what ESPN was doing 20 years ago.


Show hockey games?
 
2013-03-06 01:08:01 PM  
Hey, if they have Kelly Ripa cameltoe, I'll watch.
 
2013-03-06 01:29:17 PM  

soopey: mikaloyd: All Fox would need to do in order to be better in every way than ESPN, is to copy exactly what ESPN was doing 20 years ago.

Show hockey games?



No, have the 6AM - 12PM program block be spandex-clad chicks flashing their vag and wiggling their butt while doing "fark me raw" positions on the beach.
 
2013-03-06 02:18:51 PM  
Hopefully them and NBCSN give the worldwide shiatter a battle to step up their game. I personally love that NBC and FOX1 will air other sports outside the big 4. I really enjoy soccer and UFC. Plus thanks to NBCSN i've watched some rugby and lacrosse. More of that please.
 
2013-03-06 03:56:08 PM  

rickythepenguin: also exclusive rights to EPL / Champion's League.


Not exclusive-- ESPN broadcasts the early game each week.  Also,  NBC takes over EPL rights starting in August.  6 games/week.
 
2013-03-06 04:38:32 PM  

rickythepenguin: soopey: mikaloyd: All Fox would need to do in order to be better in every way than ESPN, is to copy exactly what ESPN was doing 20 years ago.

Show hockey games?


No, have the 6AM - 12PM program block be spandex-clad chicks flashing their vag and wiggling their butt while doing "fark me raw" positions on the beach.


That was certainly better
 
2013-03-06 04:43:08 PM  

soopey: mikaloyd: All Fox would need to do in order to be better in every way than ESPN, is to copy exactly what ESPN was doing 20 years ago.

Show hockey games?


thats good too. Also some of the oddball sports like jetboats racing at high speeds through mud in New Zealand.


Both of those are preferable to watching colostomy bags debating diouchebags about which quarterback is the elitest quarterback this half decade.
 
2013-03-06 04:52:12 PM  
"Is this just sabermetrics you do as a Cubs fan to make yourself feel better?"
 
2013-03-06 07:05:50 PM  

soopey: I'm more concerned about the Forumula 1 broadcast schedule on NBCSN. I haven't seen any details yet and we're a week away from the first Grand Prix!


FYI, go to the NBC Sports website and look under TV listings to find NBCSN's program guide. They do list showing all 3 practice sessions and qualifying for the Aussie GP.
 
2013-03-06 08:15:23 PM  

i_got_nuthin: Not exclusive-- ESPN broadcasts the early game each week. Also, NBC takes over EPL rights starting in August. 6 games/week.


shiat, my bad.  i thoguht Fox had exclusive rights.  thanks for correcting me.

still, Fox has a shiatload of EPL and i believe exclusive CL rights.  who cares.
 
2013-03-06 08:19:09 PM  

desertgeek: FYI, go to the NBC Sports website and look under TV listings to find NBCSN's program guide. They do list showing all 3 practice sessions and qualifying for the Aussie GP.


Thanks. My DVR is going to get cluttered next weekend.
 
2013-03-06 08:46:18 PM  
Great. Baseball wasn't enough, you're going try to fark up all sports coverage?
 
2013-03-07 01:35:24 AM  

soopey: desertgeek: FYI, go to the NBC Sports website and look under TV listings to find NBCSN's program guide. They do list showing all 3 practice sessions and qualifying for the Aussie GP.

Thanks. My DVR is going to get cluttered next weekend.


Allow me to make a correction: they do not show practice 3 on their schedule. It will probably be streamed online, however (if they're true to their previous statements).
 
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