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(Digital Spy)   There's a reason the Iron Man 3 trailer seemed to have a fair amount of lensflare; JJ Abrams helped punch up the script   (digitalspy.com) divider line 67
    More: Followup, J.J. Abrams, Iron Man, Robert Downey Jr., Shane Black, Jon Favreau, lens flares  
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2013-03-06 10:03:27 AM  
Not one lens flare in the trailer, subby. I know you hate Star Trek and Abrams, but it's borderline obsession at this point.
 
2013-03-06 10:03:30 AM  
Really? Abrams deserves kudos for remarkable restraint, then.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:47 AM  
Iron Man movies shouldn't have a script. They should just wing it, like the first movie. Then add effects to whatever the actors end up doing.
 
2013-03-06 10:05:53 AM  
Speaking of, is that Star Trek sequel out yet?
 
2013-03-06 10:06:14 AM  
You know how I know subby didn't read the article?

Because there's a huge difference between "made the trailer" and "consulted on the story line when Shane Black asked.
 
2013-03-06 10:08:37 AM  

Fade2black: You know how I know subby didn't read the article?

Because there's a huge difference between "made the trailer" and "consulted on the story line when Shane Black asked.


Nonsense. All direction, effects, sound and editing decisions are made at the script stage.
 
2013-03-06 10:09:34 AM  
Why don't they save time and just list the franchises JJ isn't sticking his dick in?
 
2013-03-06 10:24:41 AM  
Wow, the Literal Headline Police are out today.
 
2013-03-06 10:30:34 AM  
I'm OK with this.
 
2013-03-06 10:35:25 AM  
I hear Peter Jackson was also involved.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-06 10:42:20 AM  

MikeSass: I hear Peter Jackson was also involved.

[i.imgur.com image 520x466]


I'm glad they colored that silver, had it been red I fully planned on standing up in the theater and yelling HEY KOOL-AID
 
2013-03-06 10:42:58 AM  
What's with all the len's flare hate?

To me it's kind of a more realistic you-are-there-with-the-character camera trick.  Just like Spielberg's shaky camera technique for Saving Private Ryan, Abrams is just trying to make you feel like you are experiencing what the character on screen is experiencing.
 
2013-03-06 10:43:53 AM  
Am I the only one that is dreading this news?
 
2013-03-06 10:47:46 AM  

I am Wee Todd Ed: What's with all the len's flare hate?

To me it's kind of a more realistic you-are-there-with-the-character camera trick.  Just like Spielberg's shaky camera technique for Saving Private Ryan, Abrams is just trying to make you feel like you are experiencing what the character on screen is experiencing.


Um, you see lens flares in real life?

I know it's a subject that's been beaten to death but it really was annoying in Star Trek.
 
2013-03-06 10:50:07 AM  
Lens flares happen normally with glass camera lenses and bright lights, and people try to avoid them.  Then when computer graphics started coming up with CGI, lens flares were added to make it seem like you were using an actual camera with lenses.
 
2013-03-06 10:51:07 AM  

I am Wee Todd Ed: What's with all the len's flare hate?

To me it's kind of a more realistic you-are-there-with-the-character camera trick.  Just like Spielberg's shaky camera technique for Saving Private Ryan, Abrams is just trying to make you feel like you are experiencing what the character on screen is experiencing.


Everyone on screen was on acid?  Seriously, if you ar elooking through glass you may see one lens flare occasionally.  Or if you wear glasses.  But you will never see them with the frequency and in the numbers as you didi in Star Trek unless you are wearing prismatic glasses or doing hallucinogens.
 
2013-03-06 10:55:40 AM  
Whatever he did, however much he added- the trailer makes the movie seem awesome.  I'm definitely looking forward to this movie now.
 
2013-03-06 11:10:12 AM  

Mugato: Why don't they save time and just list the franchises JJ isn't sticking his dick in?


This, only I get the sense that you don't find him to be the "script Casanova" that I do.

// "script Peter North"?
 
2013-03-06 11:16:02 AM  

MikeSass: I am Wee Todd Ed: What's with all the len's flare hate?

To me it's kind of a more realistic you-are-there-with-the-character camera trick.  Just like Spielberg's shaky camera technique for Saving Private Ryan, Abrams is just trying to make you feel like you are experiencing what the character on screen is experiencing.

Everyone on screen was on acid?  Seriously, if you ar elooking through glass you may see one lens flare occasionally.  Or if you wear glasses.  But you will never see them with the frequency and in the numbers as you didi in Star Trek unless you are wearing prismatic glasses or doing hallucinogens.


To me it's Abrams trademark film thingee.  Like the Wilhelm Scream is in every farking movie if you listen closely.  In Kevin Smith's films the camera hardly ever moves or never pans in on things.  There's that weird diner scene in GoodFellas where DeNiro and RayLiota(?) are talking and the camera zooms in on the background between them for some bizarre reason.

But despite too many camera flares people enjoyed Star Trek, didn't you?  I mean if that's the worst thing about the film then it's not that bad...it's not Jar Jar Binks level of WTF?!? did you do to this classic genre?

And, don't you remember in the late 90s early 2000s almost every director was copying the Matrix 360 zoom around the action guy thing?  Yeah, I think the lens flare is a little over used but you do see it in real life.
 
2013-03-06 11:32:46 AM  
thezeroroom.net

Will be relevant in this thread eventually.
 
2013-03-06 11:41:46 AM  
Fringe, for me, was completely unwatchable. They recently added it to Netflix, so the wife and I started watching it. Completely over used lens flares in really unnecessary spots.
 
2013-03-06 12:00:09 PM  

MikeSass: I hear Peter Jackson was also involved.

[i.imgur.com image 520x466]


This may be the funniest thing I've seen today.
 
2013-03-06 12:08:04 PM  

I read fark for the pics: Fringe, for me, was completely unwatchable. They recently added it to Netflix, so the wife and I started watching it. Completely over used lens flares in really unnecessary spots.


Wait, WHAT?

*off to Netflix*

Oh you meant on disc, not streaming.

JERK.
 
2013-03-06 12:25:22 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Mugato: Why don't they save time and just list the franchises JJ isn't sticking his dick in?

This, only I get the sense that you don't find him to be the "script Casanova" that I do.

// "script Peter North"?


Well Lost was a mess. Star Trek was a very entertaining space action movie that had nothing to do with Star Trek... but he must be doing something right. I'm not a hater but there are a lot of talented screenwriters in Hollywood who sleep in a van down by the river who could use a shot.
 
2013-03-06 12:30:43 PM  
Oooh, I know, Iron Man 2 had 2 Iron men in it, let's do a WHOLE BUNCH for this movie!


Or, you could write a script that doesn't utterly suck.
 
2013-03-06 12:41:22 PM  

I am Wee Todd Ed: What's with all the len's flare hate?


When used In moderation,they can add a nice look and feel to the cinematography of a movie.

When overused ala Star Trek and Super 8, it starts to feel like the visual equivalent of skullfarking the audience, so it becomes a bit much.

/Don't care, still liked Trek '09.
 
2013-03-06 12:45:01 PM  

Mugato: Star Trek was a very entertaining space action movie that had nothing to do with Star Trek


This cannot be repeated enough.
 
2013-03-06 12:46:40 PM  

Mugato: I am Wee Todd Ed: What's with all the len's flare hate?

To me it's kind of a more realistic you-are-there-with-the-character camera trick.  Just like Spielberg's shaky camera technique for Saving Private Ryan, Abrams is just trying to make you feel like you are experiencing what the character on screen is experiencing.

Um, you see lens flares in real life?

I know it's a subject that's been beaten to death but it really was annoying in Star Trek.


Actually, I do. I wear glasses.
 
2013-03-06 12:47:42 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I read fark for the pics: Fringe, for me, was completely unwatchable. They recently added it to Netflix, so the wife and I started watching it. Completely over used lens flares in really unnecessary spots.

Wait, WHAT?

*off to Netflix*

Oh you meant on disc, not streaming.

JERK.


It is on amazon prime streaming for freeeeeeeee.

/if you are into that kind of thing
 
2013-03-06 12:57:04 PM  
I for one am sick of the shaky cam and lens flares.  Wasn't the whole point of the steady cam harness and the camera tracks to prevent shiat like shaky cam to begin with?  It just distracts from the story and obfuscates the picture.
 
2013-03-06 01:04:01 PM  

YodaBlues: When used In moderation,they can add a nice look and feel to the cinematography of a movie.


See, Bourne Identity for a good example of this

...but ignore the following sequels
 
2013-03-06 01:04:45 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Um, you see lens flares in real life?

I know it's a subject that's been beaten to death but it really was annoying in Star Trek.

Actually, I do. I wear glasses.


Well no one in Star Trek does. Except Kirk in Wrath of Khan but he immediately broke them. Then he sold them in The Voyage Home for cash.

/why did Kirk still have those broken glasses with him?
//really, he kept them with him while he stole the Enterprise, fought Doc Brown, spent 3 months on Vulcan and when he traveled to 1986?
///just saying, I don't wear glasses but when I have sunglasses in my pocket it's pretty uncomfortable
 
2013-03-06 01:10:10 PM  

PsyLord: I for one am sick of the shaky cam and lens flares.  Wasn't the whole point of the steady cam harness and the camera tracks to prevent shiat like shaky cam to begin with?  It just distracts from the story and obfuscates the picture.


What he said. As a (wannabe) filmmaker, I hate the shaky cam. I get the supposed feeling of anarchy it's supposed to convey and it worked in that scene in Saving Private Ryan because he was going for a documentary feel but it doesn't have to be used in every scene in every action movie ever. The lens flare, I don't know what the purpose of that is.

/yes, I know JJ and Paul Greengrass are successful filmmaker and I'm not
//has a day job
 
2013-03-06 01:12:54 PM  

Mugato: Dr Dreidel: Mugato: Why don't they save time and just list the franchises JJ isn't sticking his dick in?

This, only I get the sense that you don't find him to be the "script Casanova" that I do.

// "script Peter North"?

Well Lost was a mess. Star Trek was a very entertaining space action movie that had nothing to do with Star Trek... but he must be doing something right. I'm not a hater but there are a lot of talented screenwriters in Hollywood who sleep in a van down by the river who could use a shot.


Lost was fine, it's just in the online hate phase of it's pop culture journey right now, and anyways Abrams had input in what... 5 episodes?
 
2013-03-06 01:21:49 PM  

Decillion: Lost was fine, it's just in the online hate phase of it's pop culture journey right now, and anyways Abrams had input in what... 5 episodes?


Yeah but he started it so he could have at least let the other writers know where he was going with it, which turned out to be nowhere. And the old comment that something is "cool" or "hip" to hate on is annoying. They didn't know WTF they were going with Lost. There's nothing "fashionable" about pointing that out.

It's The Matrix syndrome of "Oh shiat, this show got picked up/we have sequels? We don't know WTF the story is going and we're out of weed".
 
2013-03-06 01:27:13 PM  
JJ Abrams is a writer the same way krusty brand imitation gruel is food.
 
2013-03-06 01:32:59 PM  

Mugato: Star Trek was a very entertaining space action movie that had nothing to do with Star Trek...


Really, nothing?
 
2013-03-06 01:43:25 PM  
Attention All Nerds:

These two men are in control of your future.  Take it as you will.


www.techdigest.tv img2.timeinc.net

/I'm taking it well.
 
2013-03-06 01:46:57 PM  

LograyX: Attention All Nerds:

These two men are in control of your future.  Take it as you will.


[www.techdigest.tv image 375x205] [img2.timeinc.net image 320x240]

/I'm taking it well.


Same here.
 
2013-03-06 01:53:05 PM  

Apos: LograyX: Attention All Nerds:

These two men are in control of your future.  Take it as you will.


[www.techdigest.tv image 375x205] [img2.timeinc.net image 320x240]

/I'm taking it well.

Same here.


Imagine if Whedon and Abrams made a movie together.

Fark's geek community would literally implode on itself.
 
2013-03-06 01:56:48 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Imagine if Whedon and Abrams made a movie together.


A lot of people talking quickly in the same sarcastic voice. And shiat explodes. And the audience doesn't know WTF is going on. And lens flares.
 
2013-03-06 01:57:27 PM  
...and a small girl kicks everyone's ass. And lens flares.
 
2013-03-06 02:02:23 PM  

Mugato: ...and a small girl kicks everyone's ass. And lens flares.


I didn't know JJ was going to pick up Kickass 2
 
2013-03-06 02:04:29 PM  

Carousel Beast: Mugato: Star Trek was a very entertaining space action movie that had nothing to do with Star Trek

This cannot be repeated enough.


Yes, yes it can and has. We get it already, other people besides Trekkies found Star Trek entertaining. It's not the end in the world.
 
2013-03-06 02:10:06 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Mugato: ...and a small girl kicks everyone's ass. And lens flares.

I didn't know JJ was going to pick up Kickass 2


The girls kicking ass thing belongs to Whedon. Not that I mind.
 
2013-03-06 02:15:18 PM  

Mugato: The girls kicking ass thing belongs to Whedon. Not that I mind.


I know, I suck at jokes today for some reason.
 
2013-03-06 02:35:10 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I read fark for the pics: Fringe, for me, was completely unwatchable. They recently added it to Netflix, so the wife and I started watching it. Completely over used lens flares in really unnecessary spots.

Wait, WHAT?

*off to Netflix*

Oh you meant on disc, not streaming.

JERK.


Wait.. so... Fringe streaming is the ONLY thing that Canadian Netflix has over American?
 
2013-03-06 02:37:48 PM  

Mugato: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Mugato: ...and a small girl kicks everyone's ass. And lens flares.

I didn't know JJ was going to pick up Kickass 2

The girls kicking ass thing belongs to Whedon. Not that I mind.


Teenage Waifs kicking ass belongs to Whedon.
 
2013-03-06 02:43:12 PM  

Alphax: Lens flares happen normally with glass camera lenses and bright lights, and people try to avoid them.  Then when computer graphics started coming up with CGI, lens flares were added to make it seem like you were using an actual camera with lenses.


They didn't always try to avoid them. Last time I watched the first Die Hard I noticed a significant amount of lens flare.
 
2013-03-06 02:44:07 PM  

Mugato: Decillion: Lost was fine, it's just in the online hate phase of it's pop culture journey right now, and anyways Abrams had input in what... 5 episodes?

Yeah but he started it so he could have at least let the other writers know where he was going with it, which turned out to be nowhere. And the old comment that something is "cool" or "hip" to hate on is annoying. They didn't know WTF they were going with Lost. There's nothing "fashionable" about pointing that out.

It's The Matrix syndrome of "Oh shiat, this show got picked up/we have sequels? We don't know WTF the story is going and we're out of weed".


Ya, it was and they admitted they had a "now what do we do?" moment. In the end though, after an entertaining ride they went with "The Island meant this to these people," instead of, "The Island was [     ] and the meaning of it being that is [     ].

Abrams did give them the light vs. dark battle right at the start, and, well, that's exactly what happened.
 
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