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(Slate)   The death of one of the greatest gifts in the English language: the pun. Experts believe it happened sometime in the recent present   (slate.com) divider line 162
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2013-03-06 09:31:57 AM
Blah blah blah blah blah
They're neolexic portmanteaus, in which root words are brutally slammed together with cavalier lack of wit.

Blah blah blah blah

I saved you from reading the article
 
2013-03-06 10:04:57 AM

FullMetalPanda: Blah blah blah blah blah
They're neolexic portmanteaus, in which root words are brutally slammed together with cavalier lack of wit.

Blah blah blah blah

I saved you from reading the article


I'm not trying to knicks your comment, but you should have included the fact that he's talking about words like "Bridezilla".  Bride doesn't rhyme with God, therefore it is not a pun.

I think this line sums it up a bit better:
Any copy editor, cable station line producer, or entertainment magazine photo captioner who opts for an adjoinage in lieu of at least attempting a functioning pun is clearly a creature of crushingly limited personal ambition.
 
2013-03-06 10:17:09 AM
So you're saying that oevure is over?
 
2013-03-06 10:23:57 AM
Someone needs to chillax.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:57 AM
Notlob
 
2013-03-06 10:34:25 AM
Suppose a joke is only 2/3's of a pun...The P-U.
 
2013-03-06 10:36:20 AM
The author seriously thinks that the definition of "pun" is a substitution of a word with one that rhymes? Really?

Mr. Slate, whoever you are, your blog sucks!
 
2013-03-06 10:36:29 AM
Someone needs to study etymology a bit more
 
2013-03-06 10:36:53 AM
And thus began "pungate".
 
2013-03-06 10:38:21 AM
Whole article is pseudointellectual  bullshiat, because nutjob is basically saying bad neologisms are bad because they are not puns.

He 's complaining that a brass band doesnt sound like a barbershop quartet.
 
2013-03-06 10:38:35 AM
It's just a temporary bromance.
 
2013-03-06 10:38:54 AM
This discussion is likely to mushroom.

However, I will roll with it because I am a fungi.
 
2013-03-06 10:39:45 AM
I will NOT click and endure what is most likely a lengthy....


*dons sunglasses*

.....pun-tification.

/Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!
 
2013-03-06 10:39:59 AM

Mytch: Someone needs to study etymology a bit more


What do insects have to do with this?
 
2013-03-06 10:41:41 AM
I stopped reading when the author said "gentle readers"....obviously the author is a fuddyduddy.
 
2013-03-06 10:43:07 AM
What a pompousadouche.
 
2013-03-06 10:44:37 AM

Fast Thick Pants: The author seriously thinks that the definition of "pun" is a substitution of a word with one that rhymes? Really?

Mr. Slate, whoever you are, your blog sucks!


Came here to say something along these lines, and possibly post Inigo. "Bridezillas" isn't a pun, nobody has ever called it one.

In another thread, I made a comment about the movie "Twister" and was going to say that the special effects had "blown me away" when it came out, realized it was a really stupid (if unintentional) pun, and changed it to impressed.

Dumb article is dumb.
 
2013-03-06 10:44:51 AM

Apos: I will NOT click and endure what is most likely a lengthy....


*dons sunglasses*

.....pun-tification.

/Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!


Looks like this is one case where...

*dons sunglasses*

The pun-ishment fits the crime.
 
2013-03-06 10:45:13 AM
They've all come to die of old age as Fark headlines.
 
2013-03-06 10:45:27 AM
Pomplemouse is one of the few French words I know.

Surprisingly, it don't mean a teenage rodent with a skin condition.
 
2013-03-06 10:46:09 AM
Someone got a modern "Word of the Day" calendar for Christmas...

/not a very punny article

//I see the Farkers unleashing their full wit in this thread - I will check back later
 
2013-03-06 10:46:48 AM
People assume that jokes is a strict progression of pun to punchline, but actually, from a non-comedic non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big bowl of wibbly wobbly timey wimey... stuff.
 
2013-03-06 10:48:05 AM
Simon Akam is a British writer. His work has appeared in the New York Times Book Review, the Times Literary Supplement, the Economist, and the New Republic.

Does wiping your ass with something & leaving a streak = your work appearing in?

Probably I'm just bitterly jealous of all those Slate orgies. Their staff is like 75% eager, mousy sex-positive-post-post-feminist sex columnists, right?
 
2013-03-06 10:48:15 AM
 I think the editor should have pun-ted on this article..
 
2013-03-06 10:48:24 AM
that's what she said
 
2013-03-06 10:48:50 AM

brap: Pomplemouse is one of the few French words I know.

Surprisingly, it don't mean a teenage rodent with a skin condition.




The loose translation is "cloying and annoying hipster band"
 
2013-03-06 10:49:19 AM
That guy probably loves to read what he wrote. Over and over again.

He may as well, because I sure won't be reading anymore of that tripe.

Sorry, no puns here to make you laugh. I'm not a punny guy.
 
2013-03-06 10:50:41 AM
You know... I'm an avid grammar nazi, but the author takes it to a level that would have me believe that the fellow may yet be a virgin.

Mm. Maybe not. If he was an English major, there's money to be won betting that an overweight classmate that was really into 19th Century poetry was desperate enough to take it.
 
2013-03-06 10:50:55 AM
Bartleby the Scrivener:The loose translation is "cloying and annoying hipster band"

Don't sully my word.
 
2013-03-06 10:51:54 AM
Looking like a fool with your puns on the ground.
 
2013-03-06 10:52:43 AM

roughridersfan


Sorry, no puns here to make you laugh. I'm not a punny guy.


You're not a pun-gent?
 
2013-03-06 10:53:01 AM
You know, whoever is elected pope, I bet he'll be an animal lover. Apparently every pope in history has been a cataholic.
 
2013-03-06 10:53:16 AM
This is what happens when the Puntiff resigns.
 
2013-03-06 10:55:17 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: This discussion is likely to mushroom.

However, I will roll with it because I am a fungi.



Meh, nice try. Here's a quarter for your truffles.
 
2013-03-06 10:56:43 AM

WI241TH: FullMetalPanda: Blah blah blah blah blah
They're neolexic portmanteaus, in which root words are brutally slammed together with cavalier lack of wit.

Blah blah blah blah

I saved you from reading the article

I'm not trying to knicks your comment, but you should have included the fact that he's talking about words like "Bridezilla".  Bride doesn't rhyme with God, therefore it is not a pun.


Exactly.  It's not a pun, it's not supposed to be a pun, so comparing them to puns is pointless.

It's like complaining that steaks don't taste like ice cream, so therefore steaks are inferior.  Apples and oranges, as they say.
 
2013-03-06 10:56:48 AM

WI241TH: I'm not trying to knicks your comment, but you should have included the fact that he's talking about words like "Bridezilla". Bride doesn't rhyme with God, therefore it is not a pun.


It's not even an accurate portmanteau.

The phoneme in "Godzilla" is more accurately "dzilla". So you should have "Bridedzilla," not "Bridezilla."
 
2013-03-06 10:56:54 AM
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2013-03-06 11:00:29 AM

r1niceboy: You know, whoever is elected pope, I bet he'll be an animal lover. Apparently every pope in history has been a cataholic.


+1 from a Southern Baptist

What do you get when you cross a Catholic with the Grim Reaper...A Pope-sickle!

/obscure?
 
2013-03-06 11:00:46 AM
I hate Bridezillas for one simple reason: Bride does not rhyme with god. Ergo, Bridezillas is not a functioning pun.

We could call them Broadzillas.
 
2013-03-06 11:01:18 AM
That guy is a legend in his own socks.
 
2013-03-06 11:02:38 AM

Bartleby the Scrivener: Whole article is pseudointellectual  bullshiat, because nutjob is basically saying bad neologisms are bad because they are not puns.

He 's complaining that a brass band doesnt sound like a barbershop quartet.


You said what I wanted to say, except you said it earlier and better.

Curse you.
 
2013-03-06 11:02:52 AM
Sure, many of the mashed up examples he gives are terrible words, but the examples from the past that he lionizes are horribly corny as well.
 
2013-03-06 11:03:35 AM
FTA: Bridezillas is not a functioning pun.

Whoever said it was? If someone has called bridezilla a pun, they're ignorant. It's a portmanteau. Ignore that ignorant person and move on.

All failed puns.

Who on earth is calling these puns except you, you ignorant waste of digital ink?

Neolexic portmanteau is redundant. They're portmanteaus, period. Not "adjoinages," portmanteaus. Being a neologism is part and parcel of being a portmanteau.

Also, this author has a very limited idea of what puns should be. He apparently thinks puns are only when you replace a word with another word that rhymes. Witness a pun that doesn't rhyme: "Ask for me tomorrow, and you shall find me a grave man."
 
2013-03-06 11:04:06 AM
Dude needs to chillax the fark out.  They're portmanteau's, period, not failed puns.  They are simply neologisms formed from portions of familiar words so that you intuitively understand what they mean.  Did anyone have to have <i>Bridezilla</i> explained to them when they first heard it?  Or <i>Chillax?</i>  <i>Bromance?</i>.  No.  Sometimes they might be tortured, but we immediately understand the meaning they convey, so they serve the purpose of more succinctly describing a particular concept.  Cleverness in coinage is just a bonus.
 
2013-03-06 11:08:59 AM
Author is a "cockgobbler"

(Cockgobbler is actually a clever portmanteau of  cock (strutting rooster) and gobbler (dumb turkey))
 
2013-03-06 11:09:57 AM

WI241TH: FullMetalPanda: Blah blah blah blah blah
They're neolexic portmanteaus, in which root words are brutally slammed together with cavalier lack of wit.

Blah blah blah blah

I saved you from reading the article

I'm not trying to knicks your comment, but you should have included the fact that he's talking about words like "Bridezilla".  Bride doesn't rhyme with God, therefore it is not a pun.

I think this line sums it up a bit better:
Any copy editor, cable station line producer, or entertainment magazine photo captioner who opts for an adjoinage in lieu of at least attempting a functioning pun is clearly a creature of crushingly limited personal ambition.


"Nix".
 
2013-03-06 11:11:27 AM

Psychopusher: Dude needs to chillax the fark out.  They're portmanteau's, period, not failed puns.  They are simply neologisms formed from portions of familiar words so that you intuitively understand what they mean.  Did anyone have to have <i>Bridezilla</i> explained to them when they first heard it?  Or <i>Chillax?</i>  <i>Bromance?</i>.  No.  Sometimes they might be tortured,
but we immediately understand the meaning they convey, so they serve the purpose of more succinctly describing a particular concept.  Cleverness in coinage is just a bonus.




Yes, there are a great deal of words that we can use (express and comprehend)
but are poorly constructed, like particle board furniture...functional but ugly.

Mangina is one. The author, however, should consider visiting his guynocologist regarding the sand in his.
 
2013-03-06 11:12:29 AM
Bridezillas isn't a pun, just a made up word to describe the situation presented in the show.  Anyway anyone describing  the "Death of X" as regards to a language obviously only has a rudimentary understanding of linguistics.  Any "living" language is dynamic and always changing.  Change does no equal death.  Though I don't really see the pun going anywhere, it's constantly used by the people who enjoy them and as long as those people continue to breed the pun will be there.

Though what I see happening is that the general standard of intelligence has been eroding rapidly since the advent of the internet.  With such a large amount of information being produced and consumed by the masses, strict adherence to grammar has become less essential to being viewed as a competent individual.  Puns require a good deal of knowledge to appreciate.  Today the average person's head is no longer filled with knowledge but with irrelevant information.  Knowledge has been pushed in to it's own cubby on the net and is not widely consumed.
 
2013-03-06 11:16:28 AM

bdub77: Apos: I will NOT click and endure what is most likely a lengthy....


*dons sunglasses*

.....pun-tification.

/Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

Looks like this is one case where...

*dons sunglasses*

The pun-ishment fits the crime.


they should start praying,

*dons sunglasses*

because here comes christ the pun-tokrator
 
2013-03-06 11:17:42 AM
www.nndb.com
Why this is an outrage! I couldn't live in such a world!
 
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