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(CNN)   Over a half a million Americans travel more than 90 minutes each way to work; Atlantans only wish they were that lucky   (money.cnn.com) divider line 172
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Skr
2013-03-06 09:04:18 AM  
Goddamn, I can't imagine what a commute like that would turn into with even a little snow.... or rain... or gazelle fart.
 
2013-03-06 09:09:33 AM  
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Let's revisit this number in June, OK? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
2013-03-06 09:10:36 AM  
Mass Transit infrastructure is too expensive. Let them walk!
 
2013-03-06 09:16:54 AM  
If i have more than a 10 minute walk to the office I start looking to move.
 
2013-03-06 09:17:11 AM  
Has anybody figured out yet this is the natural result of 60 years of sprawling out rather than building up?


No?

Well enjoy clogging the freeways, heroes. I'm going to go walk to work now.
 
2013-03-06 09:19:53 AM  
I used to commute from Centennial, CO to Longmont, CO for a contract job.  About 1 hr, 10 minutes in traffic on a good day.  The pay was great, but not worth the commute.

Right now my commute is 45 minutes in traffic (30 minutes if I leave early).
 
2013-03-06 09:20:40 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Forward-thinking leaders decentralize their offices to the 'burbs or allow telecommuting and take full advantage of tech available to eliminate the needless energy waste and frustrations.

The problem is those useless egotistical stubborn old coots that insist on running their business in an office tower in a downtown, and actually obtain satisfaction from being able to look out on row upon row of worker bees in their cubicles.

Farking Luddites need to be put out to pasture. Age does not always equate to wisdom.


Uh, a hell of a lot of people live near those towers. And walk to work or take transit or even bike, or even work from home. Which is a lot smarter than driving from crappy cul de sac in suburbia to crappy office park in suburbia, over roads in suburbia never designed for this much traffic.

Most tech startups in Seattle are either right downtown or they're close to Redmond, for some reason.
 
2013-03-06 09:21:59 AM  
I'm 10 minutes front door to desk. Maybe a few more if I get stuck at the train crossing. But then again I live and work in a Columbus suburb.

When it comes time to buy a house I'll end up bring further away just because the area I'm in now is a commercial wasteland of mass produced apartments and shopping, not a residential area.
 
2013-03-06 09:22:04 AM  
Atlantan:  Check.
50 minutes each way:  Check.

Thank $DEITY for audio books.  They're the only thing between me and another news story about road rage.

I work at the airport, so moving closer isn't really an option.  I have a killer allergy to noise, pollution and murder.
 
2013-03-06 09:22:52 AM  

The Southern Logic Company: Rapmaster2000: This Atlantans reverse commutes to the burbs. It's a 35 minute drive going 80mph and looking at the other side of I-85 as a parking lot heading intown. It would probably be easier professionally for me to live in the burbs but for everything nonwork related it's better where I'm at. Plus the wife only works 8 miles away in Midtown so it's no option for her.

I've been spoiled by my commute (Buckhead to Chamblee) for the past year and now my little startup company has been acquired and we're moving to Alpharetta.  Really don't want to move to the 'burbs yet plus the girlfriend is a grad student at Emory.  Looks like I'll be braving 400 N everyday, not excited.


400 reverse probably isn't that terrible. At least you're not driving from Alpharetta to Buckhead.
 
2013-03-06 09:23:19 AM  
I travel 3 min.  4 if the light is long.
 
2013-03-06 09:23:30 AM  

DubtodaIll: Someone should invent some sort of large vehicle to carry large groups of people that can cover moderate distances without delays. It would be really slick if you could create a private network for these vehicles to travel on to further reduce delays.  Also if you could make them powered by electricity that would be good too.


The city of Atlanta has decided one of those is a grand idea. They are building it in order to connect two tourist destinations intown, Centennial Park and the MLK Center.  Great idea right?

Sure, except it's a streetcar, so the tracks will go down the middle of what is already a main crosstown road. And there is already a Marta Station serving both areas. And there is little or no demonstrated demand for ridership between the two places.

But it's cool because you, the federal taxpayer, is paying for it.
 
2013-03-06 09:23:47 AM  
2.5 miles from work here, I wish it were shorter.
 
2013-03-06 09:23:55 AM  
I time my morning commute with music.
Normally, it's 1 Kashmir. If I hit all the lights, it can be as long as 1 La Villa Strangiato.
 
2013-03-06 09:25:42 AM  

Rapmaster2000: 400 reverse probably isn't that terrible. At least you're not driving from Alpharetta to Buckhead.


It's not. And when they finally get the 85N 400N exit ramps finished it will improve even more.
 
2013-03-06 09:25:50 AM  
I did a commute for about 4 years that was an hour and a half.  It sucked.  The  only good thing about it was that there was rarely any bad traffic.  So I was moving most of the time.  Traffic light areas were the worst.

But, I was out of the house for 12 hours a day.  By the time I got home I was exhausted.  It was a good job and all, but that commute took a toll and me and my wife.

Nowadays my commute is about 25 minutes.  I'm much happier.
 
2013-03-06 09:29:22 AM  

StrangeQ: AlwaysRightBoy: Two hours door-to-door, but I wouldn't live in NYC for anything. I like my space and yard.

/on train now

The yard you never get to see because your entire day is spent either at work or commuting to/from work?


Oh I think I see it enough with all the yard work my wife gives me.
 
2013-03-06 09:31:52 AM  

ManRay: DubtodaIll: Someone should invent some sort of large vehicle to carry large groups of people that can cover moderate distances without delays. It would be really slick if you could create a private network for these vehicles to travel on to further reduce delays.  Also if you could make them powered by electricity that would be good too.

The city of Atlanta has decided one of those is a grand idea. They are building it in order to connect two tourist destinations intown, Centennial Park and the MLK Center.  Great idea right?

Sure, except it's a streetcar, so the tracks will go down the middle of what is already a main crosstown road. And there is already a Marta Station serving both areas. And there is little or no demonstrated demand for ridership between the two places.

But it's cool because you, the federal taxpayer, is paying for it.


This thing is the cruelest joke.  It goes between two places that no one in Atlanta wants to go.  Not even really that many tourists care to go to the MLK Center.  I used to live by it and it was empty all the time.

The only thing I would use it for was to get from 5 points to the bars at Edgewood and Boulevard, but I'd rather just drive.  It's only about 3 miles from downtown.
 
2013-03-06 09:33:51 AM  
Round trip?

A little over 2 miles, and 5 minutes total. . .maybe 6 minutes if I hit both red lights.
 
2013-03-06 09:40:58 AM  

probesport: 2.5 miles from work here, I wish it were shorter.


Well, you could always just live at work.

www.betterlivingthroughbeowulf.com
 
2013-03-06 09:45:21 AM  

Hopman: TheSelphie: My husband and I both work in Boston (well, Cambridge and Brookline) and there is no way we would be able to afford to live where we work.  7 miles from my husband's work and 14 miles from mine is well under half the cost of a similar sized home in the Boston area proper and because we both work early and leave early, it comes out to a 35 min or so commute for me with normal traffic.  But yeah, we weren't about to pay $1 mil for a house in Boston that could be had for <$300k just a few miles away.  Anyone who commutes into Boston with a commute much longer than that, though, is farking crazy.  Can't believe all the morons who commute from New Hampshire.

I know the feeling. I work for a company in NH that delivers A LOT of stuff to metro Boston around the 128 belt & the Hub. Amazed at the traffic I see flowing into Boston during the morning rush. And sadly, most of the drivers are morons.

/ Dreading an early delivery to Cambridge tomarrow.


The stupid thing is the T is way slower for us.  We could take it into work as we're about a mile away from an Orange Line station, but it takes more time than driving, some of which has to do with the fact we'd have to go to a different line to get to work (hubby Red Line and me Green Line) and most of which has to do with the fact that the T is SO FARKING SLOW.  It'd take me an hour and half+ door to door to get to work using the T.  And my husband can't even use the T because has to be in work at 6am, and the T doesn't even farking open until like 5:30 am.  Until the T gets their shiat together (which will never happen), it's not going to do much to alleviate traffic in the area.
 
2013-03-06 09:52:38 AM  
It takes me between an hour and 90 minutes to make the 25 mile drive to work. It doesn't matter which route I take- they all take the same length of time.  It would take well over two hours if I opted to take mass transit (buses are all we have and they're not convenient at all).

Tampa traffic is truly horrific and I live in hope that one day we'll have a light rail system.
 
2013-03-06 09:54:19 AM  

StrangeQ: AlwaysRightBoy: Two hours door-to-door, but I wouldn't live in NYC for anything. I like my space and yard.

/on train now

The yard you never get to see because your entire day is spent either at work or commuting to/from work?


To be fair, the commutable distance to NYC seems to be a lot larger than most other cities. If you want *space* within a short-ish commute, you need to be prepared to shell out quite a bit of cash for it. Fairfield county CT, Westchester county NY, etc, are outrageously expensive.
 
2013-03-06 10:02:06 AM  
I love when other people tell me how terrible my commute is. Many of my coworkers live near work but I actually bought a house on the opposite side of town because I like the area better. It's 30 miles and takes about 35 minutes in the morning and 45 home. It's nothing compared to major cities like Atlanta but some people just like to biatch any time they have to drive more than 5 miles.
 
2013-03-06 10:04:37 AM  

TheSelphie: My husband and I both work in Boston (well, Cambridge and Brookline) and there is no way we would be able to afford to live where we work.  7 miles from my husband's work and 14 miles from mine is well under half the cost of a similar sized home in the Boston area proper and because we both work early and leave early, it comes out to a 35 min or so commute for me with normal traffic.  But yeah, we weren't about to pay $1 mil for a house in Boston that could be had for <$300k just a few miles away.  Anyone who commutes into Boston with a commute much longer than that, though, is farking crazy.  Can't believe all the morons who commute from New Hampshire.


I'm curious. What other options do these "morons" have? Do they choose to commute that long because they like it or are stupid?
 
2013-03-06 10:09:25 AM  

I should be in the kitchen: I love when other people tell me how terrible my commute is. Many of my coworkers live near work but I actually bought a house on the opposite side of town because I like the area better. It's 30 miles and takes about 35 minutes in the morning and 45 home. It's nothing compared to major cities like Atlanta but some people just like to biatch any time they have to drive more than 5 miles.


Well when you figure you're spending about an hour a day commuting, so 20 hours a month or 10 full days a year in your car that does seem pretty crazy. Life is too short to spend about 10% of your free time commuting to work.
 
2013-03-06 10:10:52 AM  
I live in Atlanta. And the traffic is horrific. Or, well. There's a lunch place near my apartment I like; a bit further away then my apartment. I get there in 15-20m at most on my lunch break.

My evening commute, during rush hour, is 30-40 minutes.

But I'm not even who this article is about. It's about the people stuck in the same traffic, on buses. That make extra stops. That can run late. That just get screwed. Don't want to think about their commutes.
 
2013-03-06 10:12:06 AM  

addy2: TheSelphie: My husband and I both work in Boston (well, Cambridge and Brookline) and there is no way we would be able to afford to live where we work.  7 miles from my husband's work and 14 miles from mine is well under half the cost of a similar sized home in the Boston area proper and because we both work early and leave early, it comes out to a 35 min or so commute for me with normal traffic.  But yeah, we weren't about to pay $1 mil for a house in Boston that could be had for <$300k just a few miles away.  Anyone who commutes into Boston with a commute much longer than that, though, is farking crazy.  Can't believe all the morons who commute from New Hampshire.

I'm curious. What other options do these "morons" have? Do they choose to commute that long because they like it or are stupid?


Clearly, buy a home 2 hrs out was the only choice possible.
 
2013-03-06 10:14:12 AM  
Commuted 40 miles each way for almost five years.  Now I walk around 700 yards from my front door to my desk.  Quality of life improvement is immeasurable.
 
2013-03-06 10:27:55 AM  
So is there any truth to the rumor I heard that DC and Atlanta have piss-poor traffic commutes? Someone said that once, I can't remember though for sure.
 
2013-03-06 10:31:27 AM  

addy2: I'm curious. What other options do these "morons" have? Do they choose to commute that long because they like it or are stupid?


Well, the main difference is that if you live WAY outside Boston, you can buy a home with a big yard.  We're still talking tens of thousands of dollars per acre, though.

Our house doesn't have a lawn, but I don't like yardwork anyway.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:13 AM  
I live 2.1 miles from work and takes 5 min. to get there.   One day I went to work an hour later than normal and it took 10 min.  I found myself being pissed off because my commute doubled that day.  Ridiculous, now that I look back at that.
 
2013-03-06 10:32:26 AM  

LordOfThePings: dragonchild: The Lost City of Atlanta does not exist.  It's an optical illusion caused by fumes mixing with vapor from the freeway asphalt.

/ we can only hope

Also the quality people ran away. Ted Turner, Hank Aaron, Jeff Foxworthy, the guy who invented Coca Cola, the magician, and the so-called other gods of our legends, though gods they were -- and also, Jane Fonda was there.


don't forget Elton John and his mega-condo at Park Place tower
 
2013-03-06 10:35:27 AM  

LDM90: 13 miles. At night. No traffic.

What do I win?


About 3 seconds from bed to computer

Am I ahead now?
 
2013-03-06 10:35:33 AM  
That makes my 45 minutes seem relaxing... not really. It'd be about 25 if everyone else stayed home.

I'd rather take the train... bus... something. In 50 years when they figure out how to do that it'll be too late.
 
2013-03-06 10:49:30 AM  

Generation_D: addy2: TheSelphie: My husband and I both work in Boston (well, Cambridge and Brookline) and there is no way we would be able to afford to live where we work.  7 miles from my husband's work and 14 miles from mine is well under half the cost of a similar sized home in the Boston area proper and because we both work early and leave early, it comes out to a 35 min or so commute for me with normal traffic.  But yeah, we weren't about to pay $1 mil for a house in Boston that could be had for <$300k just a few miles away.  Anyone who commutes into Boston with a commute much longer than that, though, is farking crazy.  Can't believe all the morons who commute from New Hampshire.

I'm curious. What other options do these "morons" have? Do they choose to commute that long because they like it or are stupid?

Clearly, buy a home 2 hrs out was the only choice possible.


So they can all afford homes closer? Everyone of these morons? Can you break down the circumstances of each commuter for me and give me an idea of the options for each? Thanks!
 
2013-03-06 11:06:33 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Forward-thinking leaders decentralize their offices to the 'burbs or allow telecommuting and take full advantage of tech available to eliminate the needless energy waste and frustrations.

The problem is those useless egotistical stubborn old coots that insist on running their business in an office tower in a downtown, and actually obtain satisfaction from being able to look out on row upon row of worker bees in their cubicles.

Farking Luddites need to be put out to pasture. Age does not always equate to wisdom.


That works if you are some massive corporation of drones all chained to their desks performing repetitive and redundant tasks, but when you are a real company that provides any sort of tangible service, you need to be in a relatively close proximity to your clients. When the vast majority of people are downtown or just outside of it, moving your business to the burbs won't do you any good. Our place of business is literally only 5 miles closer to downtown than one of our competitors, yet our clients refuse to go to their space ever because it is so "far" meanwhile, they are happy to come here. By us moving closer, we increased our business by 250%, let that sink in. When you only have roughly an hour for lunch, it doesn't work to drive an hour to pick up or meet a client and an hour back to the office. They CERTAINLY won't drive to meet you.
 
2013-03-06 11:10:09 AM  
Lived in and around Atlanta for 10 years. Hated the daily slog of those commutes, even when I lived inside the Perimeter. Twice in my life I lived right next to my workplace, I didn't like that so much since it felt like I never left the place (and sometimes they think you can come in on the weekends since you live right there ---- might as well come in and get some more work done, right?)

In my life I've had to deal with the traffic of LA, DC, San Francisco, NYC and even Paris. Atlanta will always stick in my mind as the worst of those, with a second being DC. At least all the Parisian drivers drove / parked like true-to-form maniacs to deal with it.

I currently live in the FARK-tag of Florida. I have a really cool job with a long commute and minor traffic. I commute round-trip 130 miles every day, occasionally working from home when I can (working on doing this much more frequently). It is nothing compared to Atlanta's traffic ever, at any time.
 
2013-03-06 11:19:39 AM  
I live in Philadelphia, but there are no jobs in this city, so I've always had to commute a ridiculous amount of time to various suburbs. To make matters worse, the roads here are atrocious (often slow and one lane) and there's no public transport. The most I've had to commute is about 45 mi to Princeton, yet that took the same amount of time as me commuting to King of Prussia (15 mi away and 40+ min). Luckily I've made an argument to telecommute full time, as everyone who can, should.
 
2013-03-06 11:39:08 AM  
I have a 70 mile one way commute. My wife goes home for lunch.
 
2013-03-06 11:39:56 AM  
One of the main problems with Atlanta traffic is that Atlanta drivers are entitled pricks.  It is their road, and how dare you think that they should share it.
 
2013-03-06 11:47:39 AM  
Oh my god, half a million?! That's 0.1% of the population!
 
2013-03-06 11:48:06 AM  
Worst. Drivers. Ever!
 
2013-03-06 11:51:23 AM  
Atlanta -

Hell's Waiting Room
 
2013-03-06 12:00:51 PM  
At little as 22 minutes in off hours. Up to 35-40 minutes when traffic is bad, but most days I take a company-provided bus with wifi.


If I had to spend 90 minutes one way driving, I would kill myself.
 
2013-03-06 12:39:02 PM  
8min to my main office all on the highway with 2 stoplights. 18min to other office all highway. I only go to other office once every 2 weeks and i get to expense out that trip.
 
2013-03-06 12:44:06 PM  
It takes me roughly one hour to get to work in the morning and roughly one hour to get home, give or take 5-10 minutes in either direction. I've been doing it since early 2009, and I don't think much of it now. It's mostly walking and public transportation, so if it saves me wear and tear on my car, gas money, and the aggravation of operating a machine in a large, slow-moving crowd of other aggravated machine operators, then I'm fine with the duration.
 
2013-03-06 01:15:16 PM  
About an hour out my door until signed in with a little over forty miles each day. What is worse is there is no direct route from my work to campus, so I basically have to make the same trek and then another hour to class and an hour after. All said, those days I am on the road for four hours, which gets me out the door a little after 6am and back in my house a little before 10pm. Fortunately, I don't sleep more than a few hours anyway or else this would be my entire day. Today... a break.
 
2013-03-06 01:21:56 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Happy Hours: Studson: I live in Atlanta but commute just outside the perimeter. It takes me about 15 minutes each way, during rush hour.

Also, Marta is not only inconvenient (it runs in the shape of a cross and covers limited areas) but unreliable and not entirely safe. I wouldn't use it even if I didn't have such a short commute.

MARTA? Moving Afro Rapidly Through Atlanta?

My favorite thing about this joke is that in the 30 years I've heard it has two facets.

1. The person telling it never lives in Atlanta. These are the people that I imagine say Hotlanta which is another way to get groans from the locals.
2. The person telling it seems to think they're busting out an original and witty zinger. If you hear it in person, you can see the sparkle in their eye as they unleash it followed by the anxious pause as they wait patiently for thunderous applause.


I don't know - last time I was in Atlanta I walked from Peachtree down to the Varsity and I was the only white guy I saw anywhere.
 
2013-03-06 01:48:39 PM  
I grew up in northern Virginia, which made me absolutely determined never to live anywhere again with traffic like northern Virginia's. Now my commute is five minutes on a quiet country road :)
 
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