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2013-03-05 11:09:03 AM  
and that EA told Visceral to bring in a wider audience than previous series entries did by focusing more on action than horror.

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2013-03-05 11:21:01 AM  

scottydoesntknow: and that EA told Visceral to bring in a wider audience than previous series entries did by focusing more on action than horror.

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Dead Space Fans: "I really like the horror aspect.  Makes it stand out from being another generic sci-fi shooter."

EA: "Great news!  We're turning it into a generic sci-fi shooter!"

Dead Space Fans: "Pass."

Generic Shooter Fans: "Bro, I played the first one.  It's totally farkin' slow and there's no killstreaks.  Plus, the story is all weird and shiat.  Don't get it."

EA: "HOW COULD THIS HAVE POSSIBLY BACKFIRED?!?"
 
2013-03-05 11:25:27 AM  
There's a Dead Space 3?  1 and 2 were pretty good, never heard of 3.
 
2013-03-05 11:28:06 AM  
Keep your horror out of my fps space shooters...
 
2013-03-05 12:00:43 PM  
How can this be?  Who doesn't like micro transactions, pre-order exclusives, and poorly ported controls?  Though, honestly, a game has to be DAMN good for me to consider buying something with EA's stink on it...
 
2013-03-05 12:20:42 PM  
DAMMIT. I feel personally responsible for this. Dead Space is one of my favorite franchises, but I haven't picked this one up yet, since I just moved and cash is tight.

I hope they re-think this.
 
2013-03-05 12:46:30 PM  
Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369
 
2013-03-05 12:56:06 PM  
I like the first one.  The second one not so much.  Passed on the third.
 
2013-03-05 12:58:34 PM  

Honest Bender: How can this be?  Who doesn't like micro transactions, pre-order exclusives, and poorly ported controls?  Though, honestly, a game has to be DAMN good for me to consider buying something with EA's stink on it...


I think you left out re-used armor.

/Not for horses this time, but still...
 
2013-03-05 01:02:12 PM  

Snotnose: There's a Dead Space 3?  1 and 2 were pretty good, never heard of 3.


They added microtransactions for weapon upgrades.
 
2013-03-05 01:15:08 PM  

CPennypacker: Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369


I'd sooner believe the rumor than EA's official statement.
 
2013-03-05 01:16:27 PM  

HeartBurnKid: CPennypacker: Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369

I'd sooner believe the rumor than EA's official statement.


What about the devs as Visceral?
 
2013-03-05 01:17:40 PM  
FARK got trolled.
 
2013-03-05 01:22:04 PM  

Honest Bender: How can this be?  Who doesn't like micro transactions, pre-order exclusives, and poorly ported controls?  Though, honestly, a game has to be DAMN good for me to consider buying something with EA's stink on it...


Isn't Borderlands an EA title? Sure, it's got that stuff you mentioned (though not micro-transactions, but a subscription), but it's a solid title even without the BS.

// also, once you realize that DS1 is horror/FPS and not "Call of Duty: Spacefreighter", it's an AWESOME game (for some reason, I couldn't get through 2, though)
// video games never made me jump
// I used to call it "Alien: The Video Game" because that's what it farking IS
 
2013-03-05 01:24:03 PM  
For the record, I submitted an article-- which was specifically about the retraction-- before this one went live.

"Dead Space upgraded to Just Resting Space"

Not to toot my own horn but it was about 10 Brazilian times better

/honk honk
//like 85% cacao chocolate
 
2013-03-05 01:27:11 PM  

CPennypacker: Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369


FARK posts links to WorldNutDaily, the DailyFail, and Breitbart on the front page all the time.

We can't be bothered to check for factorial accuracy. What do you think this is, Fox News?
 
2013-03-05 01:29:24 PM  
Elllieeeeee!!!
 
2013-03-05 01:31:12 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Honest Bender: How can this be?  Who doesn't like micro transactions, pre-order exclusives, and poorly ported controls?  Though, honestly, a game has to be DAMN good for me to consider buying something with EA's stink on it...

Isn't Borderlands an EA title? Sure, it's got that stuff you mentioned (though not micro-transactions, but a subscription), but it's a solid title even without the BS.

// also, once you realize that DS1 is horror/FPS and not "Call of Duty: Spacefreighter", it's an AWESOME game (for some reason, I couldn't get through 2, though)
// video games never made me jump
// I used to call it "Alien: The Video Game" because that's what it farking IS


No.  Borderlands is 2K Studios and Gearbox.
 
2013-03-05 01:32:29 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Isn't Borderlands an EA title?


Nope. Gearbox and 2K games.
 
2013-03-05 01:43:41 PM  
Genre switch + Pile all your annoying monetization gimmicks on without decreasing the base price + Army of 2 nonsense in my single-player franchise = you're gonna lose some customers, man.

//That said, that they weren't gonna outright cancel it should have been obvious well before the correction was issued.  If they didn't have big names to tag onto shiatty games to wring dying-franchise revenue from, EA's entire business model would fail.  They're basically doing with video game studios what Bain Capital did with everything else.
 
2013-03-05 01:46:20 PM  

CPennypacker: HeartBurnKid: CPennypacker: Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369

I'd sooner believe the rumor than EA's official statement.

What about the devs as Visceral?


If EA were planning on cancelling it, Visceral might not even know it yet.  And publishers are infamous for telling the public "Everything's fine" while they privately sharpen the knives.
 
2013-03-05 01:46:21 PM  

Snotnose: There's a Dead Space 3?  1 and 2 were pretty good, never heard of 3.


that's because it just came out a week ago.  apparently, a game can only make money in its first two weeks, after that nobody buys the game.  AT ALL.  and therefore a game can be determined a failure based solely on those only two weeks of sales
 
2013-03-05 01:46:45 PM  

Elzar: Keep your horror out of my fps space shooters...


Are you sure they aren't called fps space shooter shooter shooters?
 
2013-03-05 01:53:05 PM  
Hopefully someone will pick up after them...

Get yer filthy hands out of Dead Space, Capcom! I know what you did to Resident Evil!
 
2013-03-05 02:06:34 PM  

Vexed Thespian: Snotnose: There's a Dead Space 3?  1 and 2 were pretty good, never heard of 3.

that's because it just came out a week ago.  apparently, a game can only make money in its first two weeks, after that nobody buys the game.  AT ALL.  and therefore a game can be determined a failure based solely on those only two weeks of sales


Welcome to the media marketplace.
 
2013-03-05 02:10:15 PM  

Vexed Thespian: Snotnose: There's a Dead Space 3?  1 and 2 were pretty good, never heard of 3.

that's because it just came out a week ago.  apparently, a game can only make money in its first two weeks, after that nobody buys the game.  AT ALL.  and therefore a game can be determined a failure based solely on those only two weeks of sales


Well, games have been cribbing off the movie industry for everything else over the last decade, don't know why they wouldn't adopt the stupid sales metrics, too.
 
2013-03-05 02:23:06 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Isn't Borderlands an EA title?


DrGunsforHands: No. Borderlands is 2K Studios and Gearbox.


CraicBaby: Nope. Gearbox and 2K games.


You'd think, having just completed B2 last month (and B1 about two months before THAT), I'd remember this. Apparently, it's easy to mix up two-character production companies.
 
2013-03-05 02:35:21 PM  
DS1 was a masterpiece. And there was a huge amount of buzz about DS2 because people were excited about it. EA took the horror out of DS3, made it a coop game (further killing any horror element), and didn't sell it via Steam. There was literally no one talking about it. So who cares if there's no DS4?
 
2013-03-05 02:43:35 PM  

enik: DS1 was a masterpiece. And there was a huge amount of buzz about DS2 because people were excited about it. EA took the horror out of DS3, made it a coop game (further killing any horror element), and didn't sell it via Steam. There was literally no one talking about it. So who cares if there's no DS4?


I bought DS1 and DS2 on steam.
 
2013-03-05 02:48:25 PM  

BafflerMeal: enik: DS1 was a masterpiece. And there was a huge amount of buzz about DS2 because people were excited about it. EA took the horror out of DS3, made it a coop game (further killing any horror element), and didn't sell it via Steam. There was literally no one talking about it. So who cares if there's no DS4?

I bought DS1 and DS2 on steam.


DS3 isn't on Steam. EA has abandoned Steam for their own platform, and all their newer games are exclusive to Origin. Same thing happened to Mass Effect.
 
2013-03-05 02:49:29 PM  
I don't think it's a popular opinion, but I liked talking Isaac from DS2 more than the silent suit from 1. The set pieces were fantastic in both. I really liked the first 2. However, I'm having a hard time caring that 3 even exists. When I saw Mr Tagalong in the trailer I was instantly done. Why does EA suck so bad? Has gutting something good to appeal to a wider audience ever really worked for them?
 
2013-03-05 02:49:56 PM  

hawcian: BafflerMeal: enik: DS1 was a masterpiece. And there was a huge amount of buzz about DS2 because people were excited about it. EA took the horror out of DS3, made it a coop game (further killing any horror element), and didn't sell it via Steam. There was literally no one talking about it. So who cares if there's no DS4?

I bought DS1 and DS2 on steam.

DS3 isn't on Steam. EA has abandoned Steam for their own platform, and all their newer games are exclusive to Origin. Same thing happened to Mass Effect.



Ah.  I misread what you wrote.  My fault there.
 
2013-03-05 02:53:50 PM  
I, for one, like EA's model of "if it doesn't sell a billion copies, it ain't worth publishing."

Niche games are just not worth playing.  And don't even get me started on indie crap.
 
2013-03-05 02:55:05 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Isn't Borderlands an EA title?


No:  Gearbox and 2K, not EA.

Sure, it's got that stuff you mentioned (though not micro-transactions, but a subscription)

Not really.  That "subscription" is a "season pass" (for Borderlands 2) which got/gets you the big-name DLC (mission/map packs) at a set, discounted price (minor DLC (costumes) is not included).  A bunch of other games are going a similar route.

but it's a solid title even without the BS.

This is true.

CygnusDarius: Hopefully someone will pick up after them...

Get yer filthy hands out of Dead Space, Capcom! I know what you did to Resident Evil!


Capcom made the first one, ya know...

/that and I actually liked 5 and expect to like 6.

enik: didn't sell it via Steam.

And this is part of why I refuse to purchase mass effect 3.  EA, your "Origin" is a piece of shiat.
 
2013-03-05 02:57:22 PM  
I never played the first one but 2 was pretty impressive.  Not the actual creature design (that was kinda boring) but the tense atmosphere kept me on the edge of my seat and the set pieces were brilliant.

would buy a box set of all three.
 
2013-03-05 02:57:34 PM  

A Leaf in Fall: I, for one, like EA's model of "if it doesn't sell a billion copies, it ain't worth publishing."

Niche games are just not worth playing.  And don't even get me started on indie crap.

 I am a goddamned moron who wouldn't know quality if it came and bit my dick off.  I will now proceed to scream at people while I get owned at Call of Duty.
  FTFY
 
2013-03-05 03:12:12 PM  

A Leaf in Fall: I, for one, like EA's model of "if it doesn't sell a billion copies, it ain't worth publishing."

Niche games are just not worth playing.  And don't even get me started on indie crap.


9/10  I would've given you a 7 but you already got a bite.
 
2013-03-05 03:20:18 PM  

Vexed Thespian: Snotnose: There's a Dead Space 3?  1 and 2 were pretty good, never heard of 3.

that's because it just came out a week ago.  apparently, a game can only make money in its first two weeks, after that nobody buys the game.  AT ALL.  and therefore a game can be determined a failure based solely on those only two weeks of sales


Just a guess, but I'd think they'd want to know whether or not they're going to do a sequel before they reassign the dev teams to other projects. If they decide they want a sequel after 6 months, there may be delays in reassembling the developers because they're committed to other projects for the year.

/not defending the process
 
2013-03-05 03:24:31 PM  
MICRO.
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TRANSACTIONS.


Way to kill a game EA, you greedy little whores.
 
2013-03-05 03:44:10 PM  
How do you people find DS 1 and 2 fun? I played DS3 and the fact they made all ammo generic is one of the best parts. Now I run around with the ripper with absolute impunity, never worrying about ammo, and always being fully stocked on healing items.

DS1 and 2 are just an exercise in bullshiat resource management. How is a game supposed to be scary when I'm spending most of my time looking at lame ass inventory screens rather than butting boot to deformed ass?

Space marines aren't supposed to be ill-equipped pussies!
 
2013-03-05 03:45:47 PM  
So, they added a tag-a-long character and took out the horror elements? They should have called it Resident Evil 5 instead of Dead Space 3.
 
2013-03-05 03:47:14 PM  

Strategeryz0r: How do you people find DS 1 and 2 fun? I played DS3 and the fact they made all ammo generic is one of the best parts. Now I run around with the ripper with absolute impunity, never worrying about ammo, and always being fully stocked on healing items.

DS1 and 2 are just an exercise in bullshiat resource management. How is a game supposed to be scary when I'm spending most of my time looking at lame ass inventory screens rather than butting boot to deformed ass?

Space marines aren't supposed to be ill-equipped pussies!


He's not a space marine
 
2013-03-05 03:47:15 PM  
I played this game back when it was called Doom 3.

The problem is that big producers keep trying to chase prior successes by homogenizing their products rather than looking at what makes each of them unique.   Ohh yes, lets forget the horror element and make a sci fi action shooter. That's sure to beunlike every halo clone, ever...
All the worse that they follow up this mediocrity by nickle and dimeing their customers to death.

Stop trying to milk the system and just focus on making good products.
 
2013-03-05 03:51:47 PM  

friday13: A Leaf in Fall: I, for one, like EA's model of "if it doesn't sell a billion copies, it ain't worth publishing."

Niche games are just not worth playing.  And don't even get me started on indie crap.  I am a goddamned moron who wouldn't know quality if it came and bit my dick off.  I will now proceed to scream at people while I get owned at Call of Duty.
  FTFY


Arumat: A Leaf in Fall: I, for one, like EA's model of "if it doesn't sell a billion copies, it ain't worth publishing."

Niche games are just not worth playing.  And don't even get me started on indie crap.

9/10  I would've given you a 7 but you already got a bite.


Uhh, guys? I think that was just blatant sarcasm. Not everyone that makes a joke is a troll..
 
2013-03-05 03:52:45 PM  

CPennypacker: Strategeryz0r: How do you people find DS 1 and 2 fun? I played DS3 and the fact they made all ammo generic is one of the best parts. Now I run around with the ripper with absolute impunity, never worrying about ammo, and always being fully stocked on healing items.

DS1 and 2 are just an exercise in bullshiat resource management. How is a game supposed to be scary when I'm spending most of my time looking at lame ass inventory screens rather than butting boot to deformed ass?

Space marines aren't supposed to be ill-equipped pussies!

He's not a space marine


He's a farking space mechanic.
 
2013-03-05 03:53:01 PM  

Strategeryz0r: How do you people find DS 1 and 2 fun? I played DS3 and the fact they made all ammo generic is one of the best parts. Now I run around with the ripper with absolute impunity, never worrying about ammo, and always being fully stocked on healing items.

DS1 and 2 are just an exercise in bullshiat resource management. How is a game supposed to be scary when I'm spending most of my time looking at lame ass inventory screens rather than butting boot to deformed ass?

Space marines aren't supposed to be ill-equipped pussies!


1) The main character is not a Space Marine. He's an engineer, and his weapons are improvised from mining tools.

2) If you ran out of ammo in DS 1 & 2, you're doing it wrong.

3) You get a 1.5/10. Your troll-fu is weak, young grasshopper.
 
2013-03-05 03:54:45 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Strategeryz0r: How do you people find DS 1 and 2 fun? I played DS3 and the fact they made all ammo generic is one of the best parts. Now I run around with the ripper with absolute impunity, never worrying about ammo, and always being fully stocked on healing items.

DS1 and 2 are just an exercise in bullshiat resource management. How is a game supposed to be scary when I'm spending most of my time looking at lame ass inventory screens rather than butting boot to deformed ass?

Space marines aren't supposed to be ill-equipped pussies!

1) The main character is not a Space Marine. He's an engineer, and his weapons are improvised from mining tools.

2) If you ran out of ammo in DS 1 & 2, you're doing it wrong.

3) You get a 1.5/10. Your troll-fu is weak, young grasshopper.


Really? Because counting your reply that's 2 in less than 5 minutes. =P

/DS1 is amazing
//DS2 first half = awesomesauce, second half = weaksauce
///DS3 haven't touched it, don't want to =P
////slashies!
 
2013-03-05 04:03:06 PM  

CPennypacker: Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369


Came to point this out.

I'll leave by saying: People think the Dead Space games are horror games? Frictional Games laugh at what passes as your puny excuses of 'horror' games.
 
2013-03-05 04:11:07 PM  

envirovore: CPennypacker: Dear Fark

If you're going to greenlight rumors five hours after they circulate mayeb you should check to see if they have been disproved first:

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/308965374483898369

Came to point this out.

I'll leave by saying: People think the Dead Space games are horror games? Frictional Games laugh at what passes as your puny excuses of 'horror' games.


Fark that game.
 
2013-03-05 04:12:27 PM  

Strategeryz0r: Really? Because counting your reply that's 2 in less than 5 minutes. =P


Like I said, weak. There's 5 year-old kids in China on iMacs with 14.4 kb internet connections that get 50 bites in 2 minutes! WHY YOU SO LAZY?
 
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