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(AP)   It turns out that the White House is not quite as thrilled about Dennis Rodman's recent visit to North Korea as the press would have you believe   (hosted.ap.org ) divider line 61
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2013-03-05 09:36:43 AM  
Riiight.  First Obama plays golf with Tiger, and now this?

Writing's on the wall, libtards.
 
2013-03-05 09:57:33 AM  
Because the Worm has actually talked to the leader of the country and they have not?

/still don't care
 
2013-03-05 10:26:58 AM  
I'm outraged! I plan to boycott this traitor's workout tapes.
 
2013-03-05 10:27:37 AM  
Let's see them worm their way out of this one.
 
2013-03-05 10:30:17 AM  
This is Obama's Jimmy Carter?
 
2013-03-05 10:32:16 AM  

pd2001: This is Obama's Jimmy Carter?


This is Obama's Jiminy Cricket.
 
2013-03-05 10:32:25 AM  
Rodman will rebound from this criticism. Meh.
 
2013-03-05 10:32:52 AM  

pd2001: This is Obama's Jimmy Carter?


Roosevelt's Jesse Owens, maybe?
 
2013-03-05 10:33:16 AM  
thanks, Obama
 
2013-03-05 10:33:23 AM  
This is Obama's Billy Beer.
 
2013-03-05 10:34:58 AM  
When did anyone think the White House was happy about this?
 
2013-03-05 10:35:05 AM  

Cletus C.: Meh.


Yeah, that joke sort of fell out of bounds.
 
2013-03-05 10:35:53 AM  
Thanks a lot, liberal driveby MSM media, you cock!
 
2013-03-05 10:36:53 AM  
Gotta love the ego on some of these guys. Rodman thinks he's finally going to reunify Korea, when he's actually making the problem worse. It's the same line of thinking that makes these guys want to become actors.
 
2013-03-05 10:39:28 AM  
I'm wary of everything the press would have me believe.
 
2013-03-05 10:40:26 AM  

Shvetz: Rodman thinks he's finally going to reunify Korea


No he doesn't. All he's thinking about the payday they gave him for his appearance there.

I'll bet he got to meet Ri Myung Hun, though.
 
2013-03-05 10:40:31 AM  

Shvetz: Gotta love the ego on some of these guys. Rodman thinks he's finally going to  reunify Korea, when he's actually making the problem worse. It's the same line of thinking that makes these guys want to become actors.


get paid.

More likely, don't you think?
 
2013-03-05 10:40:38 AM  

Shvetz: Gotta love the ego on some of these guys. Rodman thinks he's finally going to reunify Korea, when he's actually making the problem worse. It's the same line of thinking that makes these guys want to become actors.


Yeah, athletes never talk shiat.
 
2013-03-05 10:40:46 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Cletus C.: Meh.

Yeah, that joke sort of fell out of bounds.


*rimshot*
 
2013-03-05 10:41:40 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Shvetz: Rodman thinks he's finally going to reunify Korea

No he doesn't. All he's thinking about the payday they gave him for his appearance there.

I'll bet he got to meet Ri Myung Hun, though.


/shakes tiny fist
//five seconds
 
2013-03-05 10:48:02 AM  
Thanks a lot Basilik OFuk0 Chumpstain!
 
2013-03-05 10:51:04 AM  
Did Dennis Rodman commit treason? Should he be put to death? He is black... Newest White House scandal? Worse than Benghazi. Worse than 9/11?
 
2013-03-05 10:58:05 AM  
Barack is just pissed he can no longer wear his favorite Bulls Rodman throwback in his daily pick-up games with Reggie Love.
 
2013-03-05 10:59:16 AM  
Best Korea is clearly taking an offensive charge on this one. Rodman's three point stance on international relations is suspect and I think it will take a real circus shot to smooth this one over. Any flagrant foul play will result in time on the U.N. pine. South Korea will have to come through with the assist here, and if China gets into the game, well, I expect to see a full court press and maybe some back door passes involving the Russians. I think the U.S. is smart to let Kim Jong Un keep shooting, as his percentage of made shots is VERY low. If Best Korea mistakenly travels or double dribbles on this nuke stuff, we will most certainly come at them with a boom shakalaka style slam dunk.
 
2013-03-05 11:00:44 AM  
Don't we have the right to revoke someone's passport in situations like this?
 
2013-03-05 11:03:01 AM  
i feel sorry for the petite North Korean girls that had to handle Rodman's huge Schlong.  they had to have done it for Love of Country. (and, of course, because they were told to or else....)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGL5LBTSPNA   (NSFW - language)
 
2013-03-05 11:10:06 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Don't we have the right to revoke someone's passport in situations like this?


Would it really matter?  Kim could let Rodman into NK if he wanted to, passport or no.  It's not like Rodman flew American Airlines over to Pyongyang.
 
2013-03-05 11:10:48 AM  
Had he brought his ex along . . .


www.athleteswives.com
 
2013-03-05 11:38:22 AM  

Mentat: When did anyone think the White House was happy about this?


Was wondering that myself. The outrage was instantaneous.
 
2013-03-05 11:43:02 AM  

jaylectricity: Mentat: When did anyone think the White House was happy about this?

Was wondering that myself. The outrage was instantaneous.


Obama hasn't personally denounced it, in the strongest possible terms.

/just guessing
 
2013-03-05 11:44:41 AM  

Mentat: When did anyone think the White House was happy about this?


Came here to ask this... I think Subby's been huffing ether again, I haven't heard a single statement by anybody other than Rodman or Kim Jong Eel(Or whatever his name is) that is anything but dismissive of this. The media, the White House, Rodman's parents... Nobody has anything good to say about this.
 
m00
2013-03-05 11:48:58 AM  
This is really interesting.

"Upon his return to the U.S., Rodman said Kim wants President Barack Obama to call him. Carney says the U.S. already has direct channels of communication to North Korea's government and those are the channels it will continue to use."

So the US has channels to the "North Korea Government" and not to Kim Jung-Un. Kim Jung-Un wants to talk to Obama directly, and Obama says no? Given the fact that Kim is not a dictator in the traditional sense (there is an entrenched military clique that runs the upper echelons of government) and Kim could possibly be a reformer but needs Obama's help to oust the generals, might want to pick up the phone and see what Kim has to say.

On the other hand, if North Korea is more useful with people starving and dying, and conducting nuke tests, so the government can point to it and scare US citizens into giving up freedoms... and so the wealthy can point to the slave labor camps and say "see unemployed Americans, you don't have it so bad. give us more corporate handouts." then by all means, don't call Kim.
 
2013-03-05 11:57:29 AM  

m00: This is really interesting.

"Upon his return to the U.S., Rodman said Kim wants President Barack Obama to call him. Carney says the U.S. already has direct channels of communication to North Korea's government and those are the channels it will continue to use."

So the US has channels to the "North Korea Government" and not to Kim Jung-Un. Kim Jung-Un wants to talk to Obama directly, and Obama says no? Given the fact that Kim is not a dictator in the traditional sense (there is an entrenched military clique that runs the upper echelons of government) and Kim could possibly be a reformer but needs Obama's help to oust the generals, might want to pick up the phone and see what Kim has to say.

On the other hand, if North Korea is more useful with people starving and dying, and conducting nuke tests, so the government can point to it and scare US citizens into giving up freedoms... and so the wealthy can point to the slave labor camps and say "see unemployed Americans, you don't have it so bad. give us more corporate handouts." then by all means, don't call Kim.


Or maybe, just maybe, the White House has a better grasp of everything going on than a washed up former basketball player and they're wisely choosing not to take advice from him on foreign policy? Just a hunch that may be the case....
 
2013-03-05 12:02:21 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Don't we have the right to revoke someone's passport in situations like this?


No
Check out Kennedy's history
 
m00
2013-03-05 12:02:37 PM  
serpent_sky:

Or maybe, just maybe, the White House has a better grasp of everything going on than a washed up former basketball player and they're wisely choosing not to take advice from him on foreign policy? Just a hunch that may be the case....

Wasn't someone in the CIA quoted on a different fark article that Rodman "knows more about Kim Jung Un than the CIA does"? I think the White House's grasp is that it's useful to have a belligerent nation to scare people with. I think if Obama knew with 100% certainty he could pick up the phone and call Kim Jung Un and cause peace and prosperity in NK, and end all hostilities with South Korea and close the slave labor camps he wouldn't do it. Do you?
 
2013-03-05 12:07:54 PM  

m00: Wasn't someone in the CIA quoted on a different fark article that Rodman "knows more about Kim Jung Un than the CIA does"? I think the White House's grasp is that it's useful to have a belligerent nation to scare people with. I think if Obama knew with 100% certainty he could pick up the phone and call Kim Jung Un and cause peace and prosperity in NK, and end all hostilities with South Korea and close the slave labor camps he wouldn't do it. Do you?


I don't think people are all that scared of North Korea. Certainly not in any way that is going to control the masses - they spent too long making middle eastern brown people the boogey man to change it up to people that we don't know much about. Way too much changing of the narrative for the average idiot.  So I don't think he is keeping that country as it is for any reason, or that he could magically change it tomorrow.  If only because changing the "boogeyman" would be way too much work at this point.

I'm sure this is a very complex issue that can be handled many different ways, I just find it difficult to believe that of all the people in the world, the bridge to peace and prosperity in North Korea is freaking Dennis Rodman.
 
m00
2013-03-05 12:12:39 PM  

serpent_sky: I'm sure this is a very complex issue that can be handled many different ways, I just find it difficult to believe that of all the people in the world, the bridge to peace and prosperity in North Korea is freaking Dennis Rodman.


Well the bridge to peace and prosperity with China was Richard Nixon. Dennis Rodman doesn't seem so bad by comparison. :p
 
2013-03-05 12:13:28 PM  
but no backlash against HBO and VICE magazine who were there filming it?
 
2013-03-05 12:14:02 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Shvetz: Rodman thinks he's finally going to reunify Korea

No he doesn't. All he's thinking about the payday they gave him for his appearance there.

I'll bet he got to meet Ri Myung Hun, though.


The stephanopolous trainwreck was a little upsetting.

"THIS ISN'T MORGAN FARKING FREEMAN.  You are asking DENNIS GOD DAMNED RODMAN if he's going to read Kim Jong Un the riot act about human rights violations."

I'm not convinced Dennis Rodman can
1. point to North Korea on a map
2. name the previous leader of NK
3. pronounce "violations"
4. read more than 3 pages without stopping to have a drink (and a quick drive to clear his head)

Let this be the ridiculous, goofy, slightly interested development (for both Rodman and Best Korea) that it is and be done with it.  Jesus.
 
2013-03-05 12:14:12 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Don't we have the right to revoke someone's passport in situations like this?


Situations like what? American citizens can visit NK.
 
2013-03-05 12:16:31 PM  

m00: This is really interesting.

Given the fact that Kim is not a dictator in the traditional sense (there is an entrenched military clique that runs the upper echelons of government) and Kim could possibly be a reformer but needs Obama's help to oust the generals, might want to pick up the phone and see what Kim has to say.


citation needed
 
2013-03-05 12:18:06 PM  
OBAMA'S NORTH KOREA HIP-HOP BARBECUE FAILS TO CREATE ANY JOBS, PUTS MILLIONS OF LIVES IN JEOPARDY
 
2013-03-05 12:19:32 PM  

gittlebass: but no backlash against HBO and VICE magazine who were there filming it?


Well let's see what kind of production VICE puts out there.
 
2013-03-05 12:22:09 PM  

Shvetz: Gotta love the ego on some of these guys. Rodman thinks he's finally going to reunify Korea, when he's actually making the problem worse. It's the same line of thinking that makes these guys want to become actors.


Don't leave out the "Father Knows Best" attitude our government has to foreign relations. Maybe we could put our big dicks down and, ya know, normalize relations. We're going to have a much more positive impact on the peoples and policies in a given region via trade and tourism as opposed to sanctions and shunning.

It's time for peace and normalized relations with N. Korea and Iran. It's the only legitimate way to influence them and move forward as a society.
 
m00
2013-03-05 12:28:10 PM  

schpanky: m00: This is really interesting.

Given the fact that Kim is not a dictator in the traditional sense (there is an entrenched military clique that runs the upper echelons of government) and Kim could possibly be a reformer but needs Obama's help to oust the generals, might want to pick up the phone and see what Kim has to say.

citation needed


You want me to cite what exactly, that there is an entrenched military clique of generals that runs the upper echelons of government, and that when Kim Jong Un came to power a lot of people speculated he could be a reformer because he went to school in the west? You need a citation for this?
 
2013-03-05 12:49:28 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm outraged! I plan to boycott this traitor's workout tapes.


I will never watch "Double Team" again!
 
2013-03-05 01:04:55 PM  

m00: schpanky: m00: This is really interesting.

Given the fact that Kim is not a dictator in the traditional sense (there is an entrenched military clique that runs the upper echelons of government) and Kim could possibly be a reformer but needs Obama's help to oust the generals, might want to pick up the phone and see what Kim has to say.

citation needed

You want me to cite what exactly, that there is an entrenched military clique of generals that runs the upper echelons of government, and that when Kim Jong Un came to power a lot of people speculated he could be a reformer because he went to school in the west? You need a citation for this?


You seem to be implying that there is a higher authority/equal than Kim Jong Un.  That is why I would also be interested in a citation. He is almost literally a god-emperor to my knowledge.
 
m00
2013-03-05 01:35:59 PM  

mrshowrules: You seem to be implying that there is a higher authority/equal than Kim Jong Un. That is why I would also be interested in a citation. He is almost literally a god-emperor to my knowledge.


I googled "North Korea Military Clique" and second hit: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/4/kim-jong-un-north-kore a s-mysterious-leader-fathers/?page=all

"The birth of the latest Kim is considered significant because the communist regime in Pyongyang has evolved from a Soviet-installed Marxist-Leninist regime in the 1950s to an Asian family dynasty where the ruling communist Workers Party shares power with a powerful military clique."

"But intelligence sources say the real power in North Korea today is Kim's aunt, Kim Kyong-hui, sister of Kim Jong-il and daughter of Kim Il-sung. Kim Kyong-hui and her husband Jang Sung-taek are believed to be the key power brokers in Pyongyang."

 Here is an article in Time called "The Generals Who Will Really Rule North Korea" (2011) http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2102985,00.html


So no, he is not God-Emperor. It's just useful to the military ruling class to have a god-like figure to awe the masses, which gives them legitimacy because he is grandson of Kim Il Sung (the "Eternal President" and "Great Leader" who founded North Korea). But all indications is that North Korea is currently in the midst of an internal tug-of-war in terms of who makes the real decisions. As I said, a lot of people watching the situation think he could be a reformer because he went to western schools and did the things normal western kids did -- play basketball, idolize the Chicago Bulls, eat McDonalds, etc. But this could only ever happen if he manages to wrest power from the generals. Kim told Rodman that Kim doesn't want war. That could certainly be true... unfortunately when you live in a country that is an industrial complex and nothing else, the generals are the wealthiest men and the most powerful and have an incentive to keep things that way.

What is interesting is that Kim wants to talk to Obama, but the White House response is "sorry we're not interested in talking to Kim. We talk to NK through the direct channels and we will continue to do so" which to me implies mid-level civil servants which probably are in the military and report to the generals. Seems like Kim wants peace, but Obama doesn't want that. Otherwise, why not at least hear him out?
 
m00
2013-03-05 01:44:28 PM  

serpent_sky: I don't think people are all that scared of North Korea. Certainly not in any way that is going to control the masses - they spent too long making middle eastern brown people the boogey man to change it up to people that we don't know much about. Way too much changing of the narrative for the average idiot. So I don't think he is keeping that country as it is for any reason, or that he could magically change it tomorrow. If only because changing the "boogeyman" would be way too much work at this point.


Well we caught Bin Laden and we're winding down Iraq and Afghanistan. We're out of boogey men that government can use to justify removing freedoms, especially because Iran's military was discovered to be built on photoshop. My prediction is that within the next 4 years, NBC is going to start pushing how dangerous NK is and they have nukes and ICBMs and world war 3 blah blah blah, this is why we need spy drones patrolling US airspace and complete submission to authority to make us safer. I'll take it a step further and say within the next 4 years we'll have an attack on US soil or at a US embassy that will be blamed on North Korea. Then Republicans will finally have their scandal, say that Obama made us weaker, the sequester made us weaker, balancing the budget makes us weaker, and get elected in 2016. Then they will continue to give handouts to the rich, increase our own military industrial complex, and cut medicaid/social security with the reason that "it's communism... like north korea!" The savings from cutting those programs will go right into the pockets of the wealthy. Democrats won't do anything about it, because they're in on the scam.
 
2013-03-05 02:49:01 PM  

m00: mrshowrules: You seem to be implying that there is a higher authority/equal than Kim Jong Un. That is why I would also be interested in a citation. He is almost literally a god-emperor to my knowledge.

I googled "North Korea Military Clique" and second hit: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/4/kim-jong-un-north-kore a s-mysterious-leader-fathers/?page=all

"The birth of the latest Kim is considered significant because the communist regime in Pyongyang has evolved from a Soviet-installed Marxist-Leninist regime in the 1950s to an Asian family dynasty where the ruling communist Workers Party shares power with a powerful military clique."

"But intelligence sources say the real power in North Korea today is Kim's aunt, Kim Kyong-hui, sister of Kim Jong-il and daughter of Kim Il-sung. Kim Kyong-hui and her husband Jang Sung-taek are believed to be the key power brokers in Pyongyang."

 Here is an article in Time called "The Generals Who Will Really Rule North Korea" (2011) http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2102985,00.html


So no, he is not God-Emperor. It's just useful to the military ruling class to have a god-like figure to awe the masses, which gives them legitimacy because he is grandson of Kim Il Sung (the "Eternal President" and "Great Leader" who founded North Korea). But all indications is that North Korea is currently in the midst of an internal tug-of-war in terms of who makes the real decisions. As I said, a lot of people watching the situation think he could be a reformer because he went to western schools and did the things normal western kids did -- play basketball, idolize the Chicago Bulls, eat McDonalds, etc. But this could only ever happen if he manages to wrest power from the generals. Kim told Rodman that Kim doesn't want war. That could certainly be true... unfortunately when you live in a country that is an industrial complex and nothing else, the generals are the wealthiest men and the most powerful and have an incentive to ...


Interesting.  Thank you.
 
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