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2013-03-05 01:05:47 PM  
I just want to know where they were going with the plot of Space Above and Beyond. They introduced a couple of interesting plot lines with the season finale and then it was canceled.
 
2013-03-05 01:06:33 PM  
I would like to nominate EFC and TimeTrax.
 
2013-03-05 01:08:24 PM  

Mikey1969: Once again, i doubt anyone tried to put that in any particular order, specifically because everybody would spend all day flaming them for the slightest misjudgment  It says nowhere that I could see that it was "in " order,, just the "50 Greatest"...


Then why does it count down?
If they did not want to get flamed, they would just have used a non-arbitrary value neutral ordering like premire date, or series duration. With none of those present it is a FARKING countdown.

highbrow45: ST:DS9 is too damn low! And Lost wasn't science fiction!

Neither is Life on Mars and I doubt Twin Peaks counts either.
 
2013-03-05 01:09:45 PM  
I'd put Nowhere Man, Earth 2, First Wave or Andromeda over Torchwood.

/Probably not Earth: Final Conflict
//If you're going to put in cartoons, why not Adventure Time.
 
2013-03-05 01:10:40 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Oh and whar
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 385x476]?
WHAR?!
/yes Season 4 is god awful
//seasons 1-2 and 2 are awesome and 3 is pretty good


If you're going to include comic-based shows, you have to have pretty much all of the Bruce Timm DC cartoons ahead of that
 
2013-03-05 01:14:54 PM  

SuperChuck: Jim from Saint Paul: Oh and whar
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 385x476]?
WHAR?!
/yes Season 4 is god awful
//seasons 1-2 and 2 are awesome and 3 is pretty good

If you're going to include comic-based shows, you have to have pretty much all of the Bruce Timm DC cartoons ahead of that


"Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker" is an under-appreciated jem. Best animated "comic" movie ever. I only enjoy Iron Man 1 more then that flick when you include live-action comic stuff.
 
2013-03-05 01:15:32 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: I just want to know where they were going with the plot of Space Above and Beyond. They introduced a couple of interesting plot lines with the season finale and then it was canceled.


Probably a full scale invasion of Earth by the chigs and more AI chicanery...

/Wang, Paul
//Take a chance
 
2013-03-05 01:27:49 PM  
No Lost in Space?!?!?  Oh the Pain, The PAIN!
 
2013-03-05 01:27:52 PM  

NeoCortex42: In the description of Ghost in the Shell: SAC:  " Suffice to say there's no other series out there so drenched in the aesthetic of both the Matrix movies and the William GibsonSprawl trilogy. "

So Ghost in the Shell borrowed from The Matrix?  Sure, why not.


That's fatarded. The Wykowski bros borrowed so heavily from GitS that they supposedly even asked for permission to do the movie.

Here's a scene by scene comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tF7TL0Qh4
 
2013-03-05 01:29:11 PM  

dittybopper: List fails without Quark:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x400]


Seconded.
 
2013-03-05 01:29:26 PM  

stupiddream: No Lost in Space?!?!?  Oh the Pain, The PAIN!


Oops, #31, oh I am a ninny!
 
2013-03-05 01:29:31 PM  

stupiddream: No Lost in Space?!?!?  Oh the Pain, The PAIN!


Number 31, with that exact quote, no less.
 
2013-03-05 01:33:49 PM  

FooDog: NeoCortex42: In the description of Ghost in the Shell: SAC:  " Suffice to say there's no other series out there so drenched in the aesthetic of both the Matrix movies and the William GibsonSprawl trilogy. "

So Ghost in the Shell borrowed from The Matrix?  Sure, why not.

That's fatarded. The Wykowski bros borrowed so heavily from GitS that they supposedly even asked for permission to do the movie.

Here's a scene by scene comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tF7TL0Qh4


BUT CARTOONZ!

CARTOOOOOOOOONZ!
 
2013-03-05 01:33:52 PM  
on a side note, did anyone want to see Invader Zim up there or Are You Afraid of the Dark?  They've had a lasting impact on me and threw many kids of my generation out into the sci fi world.
 
2013-03-05 01:38:03 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Oh and whar
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 385x476]?
WHAR?!
/yes Season 4 is god awful
//seasons 1-2 and 2 are awesome and 3 is pretty good


watched some of them when they aired and recently watched some on boomerang I think.

good lord that show sucked.  low or no budget and the acting was just horrific.
 
2013-03-05 01:40:10 PM  

thecpt: kind of agree with Dr Who, but it's longevity is staggering. Twilight Zone was known for getting a point across (moral or philosophical) in nearly every episode and defined the genre. I wouldn't go for those two for trying to make your case. Firefly didn't have a chance when it came to creating content that could prove it's worth against those heavy weights.


I'm a big enough opera fan to sit through Wagner to get to "Mild und Leise", but that doesn't mean that the three hours preceding it are anything but astonishingly mediocre. That more or less sums up my opinion of Doctor Who as well.

As for the Twilight Zone, yes, it was genre-defining, but it also did not have a single coherent narrative or make any statements wider than those of any single episode. By your own standards, it cannot be judged in the manner of a long format serial.
 
2013-03-05 01:45:39 PM  

Snotnose: What was that series from the 70s, written by Harlan Ellison, that Mr. Ellison derided as being crap?  Something about being on an arc that had several pods, each pod had a civilization, each week the heros went to a different pod.  I remember liking the show, but I was maybe 15 at the time.


That would be The Starlost
 
2013-03-05 01:47:05 PM  

likefunbutnot: thecpt: kind of agree with Dr Who, but it's longevity is staggering. Twilight Zone was known for getting a point across (moral or philosophical) in nearly every episode and defined the genre. I wouldn't go for those two for trying to make your case. Firefly didn't have a chance when it came to creating content that could prove it's worth against those heavy weights.

I'm a big enough opera fan to sit through Wagner to get to "Mild und Leise", but that doesn't mean that the three hours preceding it are anything but astonishingly mediocre. That more or less sums up my opinion of Doctor Who as well.



What makes Doctor Who work so well, and has given it the longevity it has, is that it hasn't been one show running for decades, it's been a series of different shows all set in the same universe.  Every time they change a doctor or change a companion the entire dynamic of the show shifts.  Chris Eccleston and Billie Piper had a very different feel than David Tennant and Catherine Tate, or even David Tennant and Billie Piper.

Not only being able to change the main characters, but actually expecting them to change regularly, all while preserving the history and mythology of the series has allowed the show to reap the rewards of an epic saga without ever feeling stale.
 
2013-03-05 01:47:40 PM  

likefunbutnot: I'm a big enough opera fan to sit through Wagner to get to "Mild und Leise", but that doesn't mean that the three hours preceding it are anything but astonishingly mediocre. That more or less sums up my opinion of Doctor Who as well.


I'm not at all the biggest fan, but I recognize it's potential to have a great episode or two every season.  Nonetheless I can't go in depth about the before era, but Midnight, the Girl in the Fireplace, Blink, the Last Dalek, and the Van Gogh episode were better than any single Firefly episode to me.  I'm sure there were gems before that.  Then again, those are all my opinion man.

likefunbutnot: As for the Twilight Zone, yes, it was genre-defining, but it also did not have a single coherent narrative or make any statements wider than those of any single episode. By your own standards, it cannot be judged in the manner of a long format serial.


Well that'd be true if that were my lone standard, but it isn't.  Defining a genre is pretty damn good and the show still has marathon sessions on tv 50 years later.  I doubt Firefly will have that lasting of an impact.  You can prove me wrong in 50 years though. I'll probably still be alive then.
 
2013-03-05 01:51:32 PM  
www.quirkins.com

We already know what the top sci-fi concert was.....
 
2013-03-05 01:53:26 PM  
likefunbutnot:

also, have to ask.  Is your name based on the Mike Birbiglia bit?
 
2013-03-05 01:54:35 PM  

Assimilate This: Enterprise was better than at least one of those shows.  There, I said it.


Maybe by the fourth season when the writers/producers finally figured out what the series was supposed to be doing.  But the audience had abandoned ship by then.
 
2013-03-05 02:03:34 PM  

thecpt: also, have to ask. Is your name based on the Mike Birbiglia bit?


My nickname has been described as an entirely apt description of my personality. I'm largely anhedonic.
 
2013-03-05 02:05:38 PM  

thecpt: likefunbutnot: A dozen episodes of Firefly painted a canvas more vivid than a half-dozen seasons of any given Star Trek. How is that not an accomplishment?

I just don't find things that couldn't wrap up on their own accord to be impressive.  Don't get me wrong, it could have done that.  What happens if it has to go another 36 episodes?  We'll never know. It didn't have an ending or a statement to make so I can't justify saying its a top 5.

/some of us just kind of liked it, but respect other's opinions



Whoa! An adult who allows for personal taste and respects the opinions of others? More rare than a Unicorn here on FARK. Sadly, yours is a nearly extinct species, hunted to the brink of oblivion by ravening Instanet Trolls and dreaded Entertainment Snobs.

*Favorited*
 
2013-03-05 02:33:08 PM  
Doctor Who is very good and certainly close to my heart from my childhood, even if I can't be arsed to bother with the new one. But #1?

No.

Try again.

www.henson.com
 
2013-03-05 02:54:58 PM  
Missing from the list:

UFO (because it's farking U F O!)
VR5 (she still needs a sammach though)
Kolchak: The Night Stalker (x-files before x-files was cool)
SpeedGrapher ( 幸せですか )


/and the old BBC version of HHGTTG easily beats out half the list in TFA
 
2013-03-05 03:08:29 PM  
The list is crap (as always).

6 Million Dollar Man, Knightrider, Jericho, Max Headroom, and The Prisoner aren't really SciFi. They are same-time dramas that have geewhiz dohickery - like James Bond.

Twin Peaks, Caprica, Dollhouse, and most of the Japanese crap don't belong on the list at all.

MST3K is just a gag-wrapper

They should also cut-off a series that is based off of an existing motion picture environment - so no Sarah Connor Chronicles, Stargate, Alien Nation, Logan's Run, V (mini-series are movies)

Firefly is rated too high, solely on its POTENTIAL, not on what was actually delivered. It also has the whole "dying young" thing going on, so it is like Mozart.

The New BSG and Lost are rated too high because the farked-up the ending.

Personally, I would have put Twilight Zone/Outer Limits first two, TOS third, Who fourth, and B5 fifth. Ultimately SciFi is about the story and the believeable universe/environment it creates.
 
2013-03-05 03:18:43 PM  
Most of the episodes were horror, but they threw in some great sci-fi as well.  If you haven't already, check out Kolchak: The Night Stalker.  It was decades ahead of its time.
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-05 03:33:07 PM  

Saiga410: TOS was the most western of all pseudo ScyFi.


So where does Wild Wild West fit in?

That is truly a western and if some of the TV shows mentioned in the article qualify as Sci-Fi, WWW certainly does too.

James West is like James Bond in the 1800s. Some of the technology available to him is still beyond us today.

Like I said in my first....uh, initial post in this thread is that there would be disagreements as to what should be on the list.

IMO, Wild Wild West is one of the greatest Sci FI shows ever made. I still watch it whenever I can.
 
2013-03-05 03:41:53 PM  

madgonad: 6 Million Dollar Man, Knightrider, Jericho, Max Headroom, and The Prisoner aren't really SciFi. They are same-time dramas that have geewhiz dohickery - like James Bond.


You have a good point. Some of the technology may be beyond our reach even today, but much of it is at least conceivably possible. I wasn't going to nitpick though. I had never really thought of The Prisoner as Sci-Fi. It's more of a spy/intrigue/mind-fark show.

The only technology in the Prisoner which we can't understand are the balloon which guards the village and that crazy see-saw thingie which really doesn't make any sense at all. Everything else is just bugs, intrigue and psychological tactics.
 
2013-03-05 03:50:06 PM  

theflatline: I rather liked the Invisible Man that sci-fi had for a few years.  Was actually a well written show, and a bit literate.


They're airing that on some channel here and I'm not sure, but I think (but am still not 100% sure) I figured out that the clothes he wore when he became invisible are also invisible. So therefore he's not walking around naked when he's invisible but he can still wear clothes and wrap his head up in bandages when he doesn't want to be invisible.

I haven't seen that many episodes, but it does seem like a problem to me.

it comes on about 5 or 6 AM so I'm usually not too lucid when it comes on which probably adds to my confusion
 
2013-03-05 03:57:08 PM  

RexTalionis: http://desli.de/MPX

Here's the deslidified link. Although the list is crap because Star Trek TOS was #6, which is pretty much BS.


indeed. far to generous.

/ducks and runs.
 
2013-03-05 03:57:25 PM  

Happy Hours: They're airing that on some channel here and I'm not sure, but I think (but am still not 100% sure) I figured out that the clothes he wore when he became invisible are also invisible. So therefore he's not walking around naked when he's invisible but he can still wear clothes and wrap his head up in bandages when he doesn't want to be invisible.


I'm not sure if you're watching the same Invisible Man.  In the Sci-Fi one with  Vincent Ventresca, his clothes turn invisible with him each time.  He secretes "quicksilver" that coats his clothes as well as his body.
 
2013-03-05 03:59:17 PM  
We probably could have gone the dittybopper route.

www.starstills.com
 
2013-03-05 04:08:28 PM  

Badgers: Andromeda


Meh. It started out promisingly enough, but pretty much fell apart from the third season on.
 
2013-03-05 04:26:13 PM  

Happy Hours: madgonad: 6 Million Dollar Man, Knightrider, Jericho, Max Headroom, and The Prisoner aren't really SciFi. They are same-time dramas that have geewhiz dohickery - like James Bond.

You have a good point. Some of the technology may be beyond our reach even today, but much of it is at least conceivably possible. I wasn't going to nitpick though. I had never really thought of The Prisoner as Sci-Fi. It's more of a spy/intrigue/mind-fark show.

The only technology in the Prisoner which we can't understand are the balloon which guards the village and that crazy see-saw thingie which really doesn't make any sense at all. Everything else is just bugs, intrigue and psychological tactics.


Yeah, SciFi is really hard to define. My own take requires a fundamental difference between the world we know and the one in the story. It can't just be a talking car or a bionic arm. Fantasy would be the same, but a regression into our own mythological past.
 
2013-03-05 04:30:48 PM  
Hold on a second. They put Knight Rider ahead of Land of the Lost?
 
2013-03-05 04:34:39 PM  

swankywanky: has anyone mentioned an obscure, short tun sci-fi series not on the list yet?


[thewickedwriters.files.wordpress.com image 435x580]

/yeah baby


I do remember that show. If im correct it was about a Junk Yard owner played by Andy Griffith who builds a space ship and just shoots it off once a week
Since we are playing the Obscure game
www.tv-intros.com
I Said LUNCH not LAUNCH!
 
2013-03-05 04:36:31 PM  

NeoCortex42: Happy Hours: They're airing that on some channel here and I'm not sure, but I think (but am still not 100% sure) I figured out that the clothes he wore when he became invisible are also invisible. So therefore he's not walking around naked when he's invisible but he can still wear clothes and wrap his head up in bandages when he doesn't want to be invisible.

I'm not sure if you're watching the same Invisible Man.  In the Sci-Fi one with  Vincent Ventresca, his clothes turn invisible with him each time.  He secretes "quicksilver" that coats his clothes as well as his body.


I'm talking about this one: Link which originally aired from 1958-1960. Like I said I haven't seen that many episodes and it comes on very late (or early) but I don't think he secretes anything. He's permanently invisible and depending on the situation either goes completely invisible or wears clothes and bandages on his face so as not to freak others out too much.
I never heard of the one you're thinking of. In the one I'm talking about the guy is a scientist who stumbles upon this and it's somewhat of a curse for him.
 
2013-03-05 04:41:17 PM  

Happy Hours: NeoCortex42: Happy Hours: They're airing that on some channel here and I'm not sure, but I think (but am still not 100% sure) I figured out that the clothes he wore when he became invisible are also invisible. So therefore he's not walking around naked when he's invisible but he can still wear clothes and wrap his head up in bandages when he doesn't want to be invisible.

I'm not sure if you're watching the same Invisible Man.  In the Sci-Fi one with  Vincent Ventresca, his clothes turn invisible with him each time.  He secretes "quicksilver" that coats his clothes as well as his body.

I'm talking about this one: Link which originally aired from 1958-1960. Like I said I haven't seen that many episodes and it comes on very late (or early) but I don't think he secretes anything. He's permanently invisible and depending on the situation either goes completely invisible or wears clothes and bandages on his face so as not to freak others out too much.
I never heard of the one you're thinking of. In the one I'm talking about the guy is a scientist who stumbles upon this and it's somewhat of a curse for him.


Here's the one I was talking about:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQ3DU6apfQ
 
2013-03-05 04:51:58 PM  
43. Space: Above and Beyond

OK, so everyone says this show is awesome but I thought it was kinda dumb. The one episode I watched had them sending pilots into ground battles like marines. Why would you go through all the trouble to train people to be pilots then waste them like that? It didn't make any sense to me.
 
2013-03-05 04:56:23 PM  

NeoCortex42: Here's the one I was talking about:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQ3DU6apfQ


In the first few seconds of that clip, it looks like he's watching The Invisible Man that I was thinking of.
 
2013-03-05 04:59:42 PM  

fusillade762: 43. Space: Above and Beyond

OK, so everyone says this show is awesome but I thought it was kinda dumb. The one episode I watched had them sending pilots into ground battles like marines. Why would you go through all the trouble to train people to be pilots then waste them like that? It didn't make any sense to me.


Because actors are expendable.

But yeah, I see your point. It's like sending SEALS in to do patrols and convoy duty.
 
2013-03-05 05:03:30 PM  
Blake's 7 should have been ranked over Firefly.
 
2013-03-05 05:13:16 PM  
The reimagined BSG needs to be top 5 EASILY.  So many good stories and plotlines and so on, that I don't see how the likes of Doctor Who beat it (besides being on TV forever)

And who put ST:TOS outside the top 5, if not number 1?!?!

Weak list.

And Space: Above and Beyond was fantastic.
 
2013-03-05 05:14:49 PM  
Wait... there was an animated Stargate show??
 
2013-03-05 05:18:06 PM  

fusillade762: Wait... there was an animated Stargate show??


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Infinity
got a season on fox saturday mornings.
 
2013-03-05 05:28:03 PM  
Does anyone remember this show? SPACE GIANTS is definitely a sci-fi show.

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2013-03-05 05:29:08 PM  

Alphax: Early 70's, I think.  I just have the vaguest memories of a spaceship that swallowed other spaceships.


Are you thinking of an episode of Space:1999 where a ship that looked like a giant space shuttle opened up like a C-5 in the front and took in one of the Alpha Eagles?
 
2013-03-05 05:29:49 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: FooDog: NeoCortex42: In the description of Ghost in the Shell: SAC:  " Suffice to say there's no other series out there so drenched in the aesthetic of both the Matrix movies and the William GibsonSprawl trilogy. "

So Ghost in the Shell borrowed from The Matrix?  Sure, why not.

That's fatarded. The Wykowski bros borrowed so heavily from GitS that they supposedly even asked for permission to do the movie.

Here's a scene by scene comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tF7TL0Qh4

BUT CARTOONZ!

CARTOOOOOOOOONZ!


Check out Crossworlds sometime with Rutger Hauer. They borrowed quite a bit from that movie as well.
 
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