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(Ars Technica)   New SimCity game is a steaming pile of suck   (arstechnica.com) divider line 19
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2013-03-05 07:58:33 AM
7 votes:
You know what's a steaming pile of suck? Being so farking lazy, talentless, and desperate to be "first" in your stupid farking review that you can't be bothered to distill your goddamn IM conversation into summary.
2013-03-05 08:44:16 AM
2 votes:
Seriously.. the cities are obscenely small. let us build.
2013-03-05 07:57:24 AM
2 votes:
Two nerds of a game playing the newest version of that game and then being angry about not beating it the first time through may not be the best way to have a review.
2013-03-05 12:07:01 PM
1 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: Egoy3k: I'm so torn with this game, every fiber of my being tells me not to buy it but every picture of the game makes me want to buy it. It's a new SimCity, but EA, new SimCity, but EA.

I'm the same way.  I especially like the "bottom-up" simulation where each sim has goals that he/she is trying to accomplish, which really adds some nice authenticity to the game.  For the record, I could actually learn to live with limited town sizes, but it's the EA "always online" thing that is the biggest dealbreaker for me.  In no way do I want to buy a game that I might not be able to play in some number of years.

/if you "buy" something, it's yours forever, not until the manufacturer decides it's done with the product.
//if you can own a car that's no longer being actively produced, you should be able to own a game without the OEM's servers.


While this is a practical concern, the chances of it happening are pretty low. I mean, I would expect the game servers to continue on until several years down the road and hardly anyone is playing anymore. And then, if the  companies were smart, they would release a patch that would allow for single player (though, I honestly think they would do well to allow a single player mode with a larger plot areas anyway, but I haven't played the game yet, I'm just going off what people have said and the game's legacy). Its unfortunate, but we need to keep in mind that we're not the new generation of gamers who the developers and companies are trying to target. They're trying to teach new gamers to get used to just switching games every year or so and completely forgetting the old one. Gamers over the age of 20 probably have some emotional ties to older games that are starting to become unplayable on newer systems. I used to save money to get a game and then keep the box as nice as possible. Games had full blown manuals. What we loved about our older games is being discarded, because we've been drilling this pop-culture mentality for years now, and society is only concerned with the here and now. Its why my sister will buy a new Call of Duty game every 6 months, so she can play the newest version of Nazi Zombies with her friends. Even though its the same damn game.

But I, an older generation, born at just the right time to catch the gaming culture rise from the first gaming crash, have emotional ties to my older games. Sometimes I regret not having the time or the ability to go back and play the old games. Oh how I would love if the developers would just REMAKE that game, or make a sequel. Give me new artwork, give me new story, but leave the gameplay alone! You had it perfect, and now its just a memory to me. And your replacements of Facebook connections, flashy graphics, microtransaction and DRM stunted products that are designed to outlive their lifecycle in a few years are troubling to me.
2013-03-05 11:42:07 AM
1 votes:

crab66: City size is way too small.
Always online DRM is annoying.
Incoming mountain of DLC will be irritating.


This saddens me.  I was just thinking not too long ago, "I wonder when a new simcity comes out?  I'd like to try out a new incarnation."  But I refuse to buy into this business model, because that is all it is.  There is no enjoyment to be had out of a game where every piece of it has been crafted solely to maximize the publisher's profits.  Fark DRM, Fark DLC, Fark always online bullshiat.

/I'm sure someone will pirate it soon enough
2013-03-05 10:13:38 AM
1 votes:

Celerian: PanicMan: Celerian: YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!

That guy made that game perfect.  Seriously.

fark that guy. I could easily cut Fire, Police, Education, Healthcare down to really low levels and everyone was always, "Oh, that's cool. We have enough. We're doing pretty good." You take away even a little bit from the transportation budget, even if you have one 1X1 square of road and he flips his shiat.

"POTHOLES WILL BE HAD! ROADSIGNS WILL GET ERECTED LESS EFFICIENTLY! BUSES WILL BE 5 MINUTES LATE, ALL OVER TOWN!!!!"


Of course if you left funding out for any significant period of time, your roads would explode (there was only one 'decay' sound effect).
2013-03-05 10:06:20 AM
1 votes:

PanicMan: Celerian: YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!

That guy made that game perfect.  Seriously.


fark that guy. I could easily cut Fire, Police, Education, Healthcare down to really low levels and everyone was always, "Oh, that's cool. We have enough. We're doing pretty good." You take away even a little bit from the transportation budget, even if you have one 1X1 square of road and he flips his shiat.

"POTHOLES WILL BE HAD! ROADSIGNS WILL GET ERECTED LESS EFFICIENTLY! BUSES WILL BE 5 MINUTES LATE, ALL OVER TOWN!!!!"
2013-03-05 09:53:35 AM
1 votes:
I really dislike games that require a constant internet connection of any type. If I want to miss an update, or never receive one, that should be my choice.
2013-03-05 09:49:44 AM
1 votes:

SomeoneDumb: The tiny city size shown in the last pic is really disappointing. Then again, since I moved from broadband to satellite-ville when I moved to the high desert, an "always connected, online game" is no longer of interest to me. But ... no offline / saving mode? Really?


SimCity 5 is designed around the new "Social" concept that EA has been pushing for a while. The reason the cities are so small is because you're supposed to specialize in a particular area, and then connect to neighbors, who are specializing in other areas. So, one person specializes in industry, one in education and residential, one in commercial/business, etc. And you're supposed to share/swap resources (electricity, water, garbage collection), because it was never designed for one city to handle all of that efficiently.

There is, supposedly, a "single-player" mode, but it's essentially that you control all of the cities in an area yourself. (ie. It's like playing a 3-4 person board game by yourself.) I have no idea how that mechanic is supposed to work, or how easy it is to manage, but regardless, it still suffers under the same "always online, no game saving" limitation.
2013-03-05 09:11:02 AM
1 votes:
From SimCity2000:

Transportation Funding: 100%
Transportation Advisor: Roads are adequate to our cities needs.

Transportation Funding: 95%
Transportation Advisor: YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON FUNDING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!
2013-03-05 09:08:48 AM
1 votes:
I ended up pre-ordering it the other day with some coupon code through amazon that knocked 20 bucks off and then i had a couple gift cards for amazon that meant i only actually spent about 10 bucks on the game. i figured 10 bucks was worth the risk that it might suck. I woke up way before work to get some time in on it this morning and it's addictive as hell. only got up to about 100,000 population before my alarm told me it was time to get my ass in the shower but holy crap did that time fly.

The only thing i really don't like so far is not being able to terraform. the first city space i chose has quite a bit of hilly terrain and it renders a large portion of the space totally useless. I'll be starting over on a flatter tract of land now that i figured out most of the basics.

It also sucks not being able to upgrade a high density road to the next road type (avenue?). planning your basic layout before you start is pretty necessary if you don't want to spend a ton of money bulldozing and re-laying a bunch of your main roads. it wouldn't be so bad but if you have any specialized buildings (police, fire, hospital, dump, etc) you have to bulldoze them too and it's just a huge waste of money.

this seems like stuff that is probably due to inexperience with it though. very fun so far at any rate.
2013-03-05 08:54:47 AM
1 votes:
Why would you build curved roads, anyway? The only time that's really ever done is to route around topography, political boundaries (which are often enough one and the same) or for "aesthetics" in the suburbs. Pretty much every city built in the last two centuries is built on a grid for a reason.
2013-03-05 08:53:37 AM
1 votes:

StrangeQ: MurphyMurphy: Steaming?

No, the first step on it's journey to failure was rooted in the idea it MUST NOT be on Steam.

Yes, because I love being locked out of my games anytime a third party program decides that it needs to update.



Cant tell if a run of the mill Steam hater or just stupid.

You know what keeps me from playing my games on Steam? A power outage.  Beyond that, not a damn thing.  ProTip: When Steam wants to install an update and you don't want it to and just want to play your game(s)?  Click the Cancel button.  I know that's a whole lot of effort, but it works.
2013-03-05 08:23:37 AM
1 votes:
I'm so torn with this game, every fiber of my being tells me not to buy it but every picture of the game makes me want to buy it. It's a new SimCity, but EA, new SimCity, but EA.

Yes I know EA published the old ones too but goddammit they weren't always as evil as they are now. Well yeah they were but still. I really don't know what to think. I know that it is possible for EA to be attached to decent games, I also know that it's very unlikely.
2013-03-05 08:16:50 AM
1 votes:
EA is going to monetize the fark out of this game.  If I was you, I'd start investing in ivory backscratcher companies.
2013-03-05 08:06:14 AM
1 votes:
Don't like the tiny city size deal that they were whining about. If accurate, it's a legit whine. No saving so you can experiment a bit kind of breaks the experience of the game too.
2013-03-05 08:04:49 AM
1 votes:
Penny Arcade Report on why not to trust their own site's review. No one has played the "full game" yet, and are not allowed to actually try out the game on their own terms.
2013-03-05 08:02:51 AM
1 votes:
It's from EA, it by definition sucks.  Fark that company, they don't get any of my money.
2013-03-05 07:59:52 AM
1 votes:
Steaming?

No, the first step on it's journey to failure was rooted in the idea it MUST NOT be on Steam.
 
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