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(News.com.au)   Gordon Ramsay finds out that his his f*cking London hotel restaurant is f*cking closing. Reached for comment, he says, "F*ck me, I'm f*cking stunned"   (news.com.au) divider line 14
    More: Fail, Gordon Ramsay, Claridge's, Michelin Guide, household name, London hotels, menu  
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2013-03-05 09:17:37 AM
3 votes:
Twelve years is an exceptionally long innings for a 'name' hotel restaurant. More at 11.
2013-03-05 09:45:36 AM
2 votes:
To be fair, it's not really "his" restaurant, but a contract to run the restaurant at Claridge's.  The hotel benefits from hosting new and trendy chefs, and Ramsay's been there for 12 years.  Change-up is always a way to build excitement, and nothing says excitement like a brand new head chef.

My experience with all of these world-famous celebrity chef places is that the talent that makes the head chef famous simply cannot translate onto the thousands of plates being served every day in a reliable consistent fashion.  The actual work has to be pawned off onto lesser cooks, and the inevitable result is that you're paying for Gordon/Wolfgang/Emeril, but you're actually getting Bob/Juan/Jerome.

I will say that the quality of SERVICE at their establishments is astounding, but the food is never as good as if it was actually the head chef running the show.  For that you should stick with going to a restaurant where the head chef with the name over the door is actually the man in the kitchen.
2013-03-05 09:21:37 AM
2 votes:

FarkinNortherner: Twelve years is an exceptionally long innings for a 'name' hotel restaurant. More at 11.


This. Whatever you think of Ramsay, this is the polar opposite of a "Fail".
2013-03-05 09:00:50 AM
2 votes:

Cheron: kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...

I know just the guy
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That guy is a moron.  One several occasions, he has gone to areas where people don't spend a lot of money eating out, and has re-vamped the menu in such a way that the "fixed" restaurant is 50-75% more expensive than everywhere else in town.  He has no concept of what a market will put up with when cost is concerned.
2013-03-05 08:51:27 AM
2 votes:
If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...
2013-03-05 11:06:28 AM
1 votes:
Ronin_S:

I think the bigger issue is that people really can't completely change in a week. After he's out the door, management probably goes right back to the way things were. Also, I doubt people would be attracted to a restaurant that has management showing a blatant disregard for food safety, even while fully aware they are being filmed and going on national television. Who knows what other shiat they do when no one's looking?

This.  What I think most people forget is that running a restaurant is very hard work; people who have a wealth of experience still fail if very minor things go wrong.

If you look at the type of people that these shows work with, its no surprise that the failure rate is still high; if you are oblivious enough to the industry where you allow food to rot in your kitchen and rack up seven figures of debt in business that is clearly not performing then you are not cut out to be a restaurant owner.  I bet you could drop most of these owners into successful restaurants and they would run them into the ground in six months.

Ramsey/Irvine/Host du jure can fix your decor, improve your menu and/or fix your pricing and it probably won't make a lick of difference if you lack the basic business acumen to run a successful restaurant.
2013-03-05 09:55:29 AM
1 votes:
The headline: Gordon is a hypocrite who cannot even keep his own restaurant open

TFA: Gordon and the hotel have decided to explore new opportunities as both feel it is time to shake up the hotel, and allow Gordon to expand in other directions.
2013-03-05 09:43:42 AM
1 votes:

Almet: durbnpoisn: Almet: Cheron: kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...

I know just the guy
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That guy is a moron.  One several occasions, he has gone to areas where people don't spend a lot of money eating out, and has re-vamped the menu in such a way that the "fixed" restaurant is 50-75% more expensive than everywhere else in town.  He has no concept of what a market will put up with when cost is concerned.

Clearly you've never actually watched the show, have you?  One of the things he does in damn near every episode is outline the mistakes the owner was making with their menu to cost ratios.  In most cases, he can show how to serve better, and fresher food, and make it cost less, thereby increasing the restaurant's profit margin.


That being said, and even though I'm defnding the guy, I don't particularly like the show either.  It's the exact same thing in every single episode.  It gets a little old.

I'm not talking about profitability for the restaurant, I'm talking about the amount of money a customer has to pay.  My wife watches the show, and I like to look up reviews for the restaurants while it's on.  The biggest complaint that people have is that the prices went up too much and too quickly.

The most glaring example was the episode where he took over the a restaurant run by the school's culinary program.  In the opening monologue, he talked about 50% of the town living below the poverty line. Most of the people couldn't afford to eat out, and when they did, they had to stretch their eating out budget.  After the relaunch, His new menu was more expensive than the last, sure, it might have had a better profit margin, but if you've priced 20% of your potential customers out of the restaurant for a 10% increase in profitability, you're shooting yourself in the foot.


And that has nothing to do with the demonstrably poor business owners jacking their prices up post-Ramsey to try to capitalize on the added publicity?
2013-03-05 09:25:27 AM
1 votes:

durbnpoisn: Almet: Cheron: kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...

I know just the guy
[s23.postimage.org image 266x354]

That guy is a moron.  One several occasions, he has gone to areas where people don't spend a lot of money eating out, and has re-vamped the menu in such a way that the "fixed" restaurant is 50-75% more expensive than everywhere else in town.  He has no concept of what a market will put up with when cost is concerned.

Clearly you've never actually watched the show, have you?  One of the things he does in damn near every episode is outline the mistakes the owner was making with their menu to cost ratios.  In most cases, he can show how to serve better, and fresher food, and make it cost less, thereby increasing the restaurant's profit margin.


That being said, and even though I'm defnding the guy, I don't particularly like the show either.  It's the exact same thing in every single episode.  It gets a little old.


I'm not talking about profitability for the restaurant, I'm talking about the amount of money a customer has to pay.  My wife watches the show, and I like to look up reviews for the restaurants while it's on.  The biggest complaint that people have is that the prices went up too much and too quickly.

The most glaring example was the episode where he took over the a restaurant run by the school's culinary program.  In the opening monologue, he talked about 50% of the town living below the poverty line. Most of the people couldn't afford to eat out, and when they did, they had to stretch their eating out budget.  After the relaunch, His new menu was more expensive than the last, sure, it might have had a better profit margin, but if you've priced 20% of your potential customers out of the restaurant for a 10% increase in profitability, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
2013-03-05 09:07:29 AM
1 votes:

Almet: Cheron: kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...

I know just the guy
[s23.postimage.org image 266x354]

That guy is a moron.  One several occasions, he has gone to areas where people don't spend a lot of money eating out, and has re-vamped the menu in such a way that the "fixed" restaurant is 50-75% more expensive than everywhere else in town.  He has no concept of what a market will put up with when cost is concerned.


Clearly you've never actually watched the show, have you?  One of the things he does in damn near every episode is outline the mistakes the owner was making with their menu to cost ratios.  In most cases, he can show how to serve better, and fresher food, and make it cost less, thereby increasing the restaurant's profit margin.


That being said, and even though I'm defnding the guy, I don't particularly like the show either.  It's the exact same thing in every single episode.  It gets a little old.
2013-03-05 09:06:51 AM
1 votes:
No way did Ramsey say that!

\if he really said it then there would be 3 times the expletives in each sentence.
2013-03-05 08:58:31 AM
1 votes:

Cheron: kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...

I know just the guy
[s23.postimage.org image 266x354]


I hate that show.

Although I do want to see him pop the head off of some old lady with those massive arms.
2013-03-05 08:53:42 AM
1 votes:

kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...


I know just the guy
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2013-03-05 08:52:54 AM
1 votes:

kumanoki: If only there was some show that he could reach out to for some tough, but necessary, love to get his restaurant back in shape...


Restaurant Impossible?
 
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