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(CBS News)   Cop who fired over 41 bullets during a high speed chase last year, finally fired from department. That's some fine police work there Lou   (cbsnews.com) divider line 43
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2013-03-05 01:58:56 AM  
So this guy went to the 1960's school of chasing I take it.

Instructor: "Fire wildly at the suspect's car, in hopes of hitting the tires. Once the vehicle has spun out of control and safely landed in a spot away from civilians, you may exit your patrol car and promptly shoot the suspect in a heroic fashion. Also make sure your hair is blowing slightly in the wind as you fire, it looks better."

I'm pro law enforcement, but this guy, hope he goes to prison for a long, long time.
 
2013-03-05 03:42:29 AM  
The shooting started after the chase ended with the cops ramming the guy's truck, pinning it in a driveway.  After the shooting stopped, a K-9 dragged the guy out of the truck.  Witness says cops deleted her cell phone pics and vids.
 
2013-03-05 07:08:11 AM  

strangeluck: I'm pro law enforcement, but this guy, hope he goes to prison for a long, long time.


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It's Texas, Jake. They'll probably give that guy a medal when he goes to court.

/guy needs to rot in jail.
 
2013-03-05 07:47:08 AM  
I don't hear the victim complaining.
 
2013-03-05 07:47:36 AM  
FTFA: "Officer Tuter did feel in fear for his life and was justified in firing his weapon"

It's hard not to be scared of people who were driving away from you, and whom you've just crashed your patrol car into.
 
2013-03-05 07:47:55 AM  
Did the cop exclaim "YEE-HAW!" while letting loose with his barrage? If so, I believe it's allowed under Texas law.
 
2013-03-05 07:51:34 AM  
Did he have one of those Hollywood six-shooters that never needs reloading?
 
2013-03-05 07:51:50 AM  
How in the fark do you fire "over 41 bullets"?  Wouldn't that be 42, or did he fire a half bullet along the way?
 
2013-03-05 07:55:01 AM  

Too Pretty For Prison: How in the fark do you fire "over 41 bullets"?


Well, you could stack 41 bullets on the floor and shoot something that's higher up and farther out than they are. No, only kidding. You're right.
 
2013-03-05 07:56:51 AM  
Depending on his weapon, that's either 2 or 3 reloads.

/Impressive reload speed
//Not so impressive aim
///Hope he rots in jail, because this is murder
 
2013-03-05 07:59:35 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: The shooting started after the chase ended with the cops ramming the guy's truck, pinning it in a driveway.  After the shooting stopped, a K-9 dragged the guy out of the truck.  Witness says cops deleted her cell phone pics and vids.


Christ. There were at least 3 police there and this asshole is the only one who fired. And at that witnesses say that he stopped to reload, then fire some more.

And also, where did this guy get his firearms training? C.O.B.R.A?
 
2013-03-05 07:59:50 AM  
No, I don't think I'll ever be  "over 41 bullets" ...
 
2013-03-05 08:00:31 AM  
Those wounds run pretty deep...
 
2013-03-05 08:00:39 AM  
Was he fired for being a bad shot? (3 for 41).
 
2013-03-05 08:00:54 AM  
Meanwhile in the rest of the US

http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-southeasternpa/Philadelphia-c op -accused-of-punching-woman-found-not-guilty/-/121434/19099288/-/oipm2p z/-/index.html

And how much time did the brave officer who fired ~41 shots spend in jail so far? Let me guess, none whatsoever, just like the normal people would, right?
 
2013-03-05 08:01:23 AM  
3 hits out of 41 shots?  He's better than your average cop.
 
2013-03-05 08:02:06 AM  
To be fair it was a chilly autumn day and there were a lot of people wearing hoodies.
 
2013-03-05 08:02:56 AM  
I watched Grosse Pointe Blank yesterday and I thought the "firing randomly in the direction of your target" was sorta funny. I might have 17 round magazines but I know better than to shoot at something I don't have a good visual lock on.
 
2013-03-05 08:03:42 AM  

oryx: Was he fired for being a bad shot? (3 for 41).


There's a Shaquelle O'Neal free throw joke in there somewhere
 
2013-03-05 08:04:31 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: The shooting started after the chase ended with the cops ramming the guy's truck, pinning it in a driveway.  After the shooting stopped, a K-9 dragged the guy out of the truck.  Witness says cops deleted her cell phone pics and vids.


With multiple officers on scene and this guy reloaded, that should be 1st degree murder with only five minutes of deliberation.  Is there a rule that other officers can't tell another officer "Hey, put it down, we have this situation under control, go have a seat."?  Or is it department's policy to not say anything at scene for witnesses to pick up and go straight to cover up mode and let IAD and lawyers straighten it out later.  The only way this could've been worse, is after the officer emptied his gun the other officers took to shooting like a bunch of rednecks.  Making sure not one part of the truck was missed, quieting up the passenger and maybe some of the witnesses.  Nice cell phone (bang), mine now.
 
2013-03-05 08:06:18 AM  
FTFA:  ''I just want what's right for Michael,'' said Randy Allen. I don't see anybody reacting like that, normal. 41 shots, I mean, was the other police officers just standing there?"

YES! DAMMIT, YES!

It's called "The Blue Line", and it means that cops have let other cops get away with murder. Cops cover for each other.
 
2013-03-05 08:10:00 AM  

lucksi: And how much time did the brave officer who fired ~41 shots spend in jail so far? Let me guess, none whatsoever, just like the normal people would, right?


So what you're saying is, this man didn't deserve the due process and investigation that is constitutionally guaranteed to every other citizen of the United States?

Because, that would kind of make you a hypocrite, wouldn't it?
 
2013-03-05 08:13:10 AM  
They call it..

Cop RAGE!!
 
2013-03-05 08:13:25 AM  

wildcardjack: I watched Grosse Pointe Blank yesterday and I thought the "firing randomly in the direction of your target" was sorta funny. I might have 17 round magazines but I know better than to shoot at something I don't have a good visual lock on.


Hound hitter.
 
2013-03-05 08:14:19 AM  

Shotgun Justice: Depending on his weapon, that's either 2 or 3 reloads.

/Impressive reload speed
//Not so impressive aim
///Hope he rots in jail, because this is murder


Yeah.  But he's a cop.  The guy in Florida that was actually being run down by a jeep full of gang members intent on violence? He gets years in prison and his dogs get killed.  If you reload, you have to reassess the situation and reevaluate.  If there is no longer a threat, it's no longer self defense.
 
2013-03-05 08:14:36 AM  

Hillbilly Jim: Hound hitter.


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2013-03-05 08:17:14 AM  
Dorner should have offed a couple more before he bit it....
 
2013-03-05 08:28:49 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: The shooting started after the chase ended with the cops ramming the guy's truck, pinning it in a driveway.  After the shooting stopped, a K-9 dragged the guy out of the truck.  Witness says cops deleted her cell phone pics and vids.


From your link: ""He believed the suspect had a gun," Snider said. "He believed he had a gun based on the situation and the suspect's actions." "

Jesus tapdancing Christ, that's some holy scary shiat. "I believe you have a gun" BLAM. Wonderful news that hes been fired.

Fingers crossed for jail time.
 
2013-03-05 08:37:19 AM  
 
2013-03-05 08:47:03 AM  
Why did he fire over them? And why is there a comma?
 
2013-03-05 08:54:17 AM  
Man, this guy beat the Amadou Diallo record all by himself.
 
2013-03-05 09:02:22 AM  
Sounds like someone needs a new partner...

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2013-03-05 09:17:56 AM  

hardinparamedic: lucksi: And how much time did the brave officer who fired ~41 shots spend in jail so far? Let me guess, none whatsoever, just like the normal people would, right?

So what you're saying is, this man didn't deserve the due process and investigation that is constitutionally guaranteed to every other citizen of the United States?

Because, that would kind of make you a hypocrite, wouldn't it?


No, the normal person would be arrested first (with a LOT of force since he just killed someone), spend some nights in jail and maybe, just maybe, get out on bail. So, was the cop arrested? Was he in jail?
 
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2013-03-05 09:18:04 AM  

oryx: Was he fired for being a bad shot? (3 for 41).


It's Texas, so I would assume so.
 
2013-03-05 09:23:01 AM  

lucksi: No, the normal person would be arrested first (with a LOT of force since he just killed someone), spend some nights in jail and maybe, just maybe, get out on bail. So, was the cop arrested? Was he in jail?


So he should be denied due process and department policy ignored, so that the Union he belongs to would have legal recourse to challenge and obfuscate anything he did wrong, right?  Or, to put it another way, anyone involved in a line of duty shooting should automatically be booked, thrown into jail, and charged with a crime before all the facts of the case are established. Something something, fifth amendment due process.

So, hypocritical, just a little?
 
2013-03-05 09:37:03 AM  

lack of warmth: Or is it department's policy to not say anything at scene for witnesses to pick up and go straight to cover up mode and let IAD and lawyers straighten it out later.


IA won't be able to do shiat.  My cousin was a cop for several years and he loved telling stories about beating up pretty much anyone they wanted.  Once they savagely beat a handcuffed perp, and when IA investigated all the cops involved LIED to cover each other.  His reason was:

"When you're on the streets these guys are the ones who have your back.  We take care of our own."

That was in the early 80's.  But nothing has changed.  Apparently, even having video of the incident is meaningless.
 
2013-03-05 09:39:01 AM  

hardinparamedic: Or, to put it another way, anyone involved in a line of duty shooting should automatically be booked, thrown into jail, and charged with a crime before all the facts of the case are established. Something something, fifth amendment due process.


What, exactly, would happen to a non-cop who shot and killed someone? He'd be arrested, thrown in jail.... We're just asking why this doesn't apply to cops.
 
2013-03-05 09:47:39 AM  

fredklein: What, exactly, would happen to a non-cop who shot and killed someone? He'd be arrested, thrown in jail.... We're just asking why this doesn't apply to cops.


Regular people who have what is ostensibly a justified shooting in self defense get arrested and thrown in jail as a matter of policy until the investigation is completed and the DA is given the results of it?

I guess some animals ARE more equal than others, eh Napoleon?

In what country in the world are police officers thrown in jail after using their service weapons, fredklein?

The fact of the matter is what this guy did is indefensible. I'm glad he was fired. And I'm glad it's gone to the grand jury, as it should.  Tennessee v. Garner was very clear on this situation.
 
2013-03-05 10:17:06 AM  

hardinparamedic: Regular people who have what is ostensibly a justified shooting in self defense get arrested and thrown in jail as a matter of policy until the investigation is completed and the DA is given the results of it?


Um, yeah. Well, maybe not "until the investigation is completed"- bail and such. But cops definitely arrest people who shoot other people.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id= 9 014966
"A suspect has been arrested in connection with an injury shooting in San Francisco's Bayview District this morning"

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2013/03/tw o _arrested_after_shooting_se.html
The Grant County sheriff's office says two people have been arrested in the shooting that seriously wounded two teens Sunday night"

http://gazettextra.com/news/2013/mar/02/man-arrested-after-shooting-s u spected-thief/
"A town of Beloit man accused of shooting at a suspected thief was arrested early Friday morning on a charge of first-degree recklessly endangering safety."

http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/One-Teen-Arrested-After-Shooting - in-Sparks-194511021.html
"One teenager is in custody and police are searching for two more young people after a shooting in Sparks."

...etc.

In what country in the world are police officers thrown in jail after using their service weapons, fredklein?

None. That's kinda the point. Cops can kick (shoot) your ass and get away with it.
 
2013-03-05 11:27:55 AM  

untaken_name: FTFA: "Officer Tuter did feel in fear for his life and was justified in firing his weapon"

It's hard not to be scared of people who were driving away from you, and whom you've just crashed your patrol car into.


^^^^^THIS^^^^^

A few years back, in Az, they had the cops called on a woman trying to fill a bad 'script. The woman drove away from the cop in the pharmacy drive thru, and he shot her, claiming self defense. I think he actually got cleared of all wrongdoing, but he killed her for nothing worse than forging a prescription and driving away. Luckily, he didn't kill the baby int he car with her...
 
2013-03-05 11:29:15 AM  

hardinparamedic: lucksi: And how much time did the brave officer who fired ~41 shots spend in jail so far? Let me guess, none whatsoever, just like the normal people would, right?

So what you're saying is, this man didn't deserve the due process and investigation that is constitutionally guaranteed to every other citizen of the United States?

Because, that would kind of make you a hypocrite, wouldn't it?


You're right. The dead guy didn't get his due process rights. The cop was judge, jury and executioner.
 
2013-03-05 06:05:29 PM  

hardinparamedic: lucksi: And how much time did the brave officer who fired ~41 shots spend in jail so far? Let me guess, none whatsoever, just like the normal people would, right?

So what you're saying is, this man didn't deserve the due process and investigation that is constitutionally guaranteed to every other citizen of the United States?

Because, that would kind of make you a hypocrite, wouldn't it?


Ahh yes, "due process and investigation". His camera recorded him lying and murdering someone.  How do you think due process and investigation would work out for everyone else in that situation?  I'll tell you:  They would be arrested and charged with murder.  That means a jail until they can bond out.
 
2013-03-05 06:31:57 PM  
Did you say 41 shots?

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