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(NYPost)   Hello, my name is Jason and I'll be your server tonight. Our special is the whiniest article about waiters you'll read this year. It's served over a bed of snobbery with a NYPost glaze. And just so you know, there is a tipping wank surcharge   (nypost.com) divider line 245
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2013-03-04 08:44:07 PM
The worst part of dealing with American waitrons is we're forced to be nice to these creepy ex-darlings of their high-school theater departments because of the unspoken hostage drama that's taking place behind the scenes with our food.

I
know everyone is raging on the author, but come on, that's comedy gold.
 
2013-03-04 08:44:19 PM
I'm sure the overly charismatic waiting staff are just trying to get recognized by some rich showbiz type.  As for the douchbag writing the article, i'm with the rest of you.
 
2013-03-04 08:44:22 PM

Atomic Spunk: The tone of the article makes the author sound like a real ass, but he is right about one thing. Waiters can sometimes be too over the top. I do like the fact that they provide us with their name - seems like common courtesy. But what I really don't like are those waiters with too much personality. You know the type. They can't wait to show everyone at the table how witty they are ("The fish is so fresh, as soon as you give me your order, I phone it in to our guy who's at the pier with his fishing pole!"), and they start spewing hyperbole when describing certain dishes ("If I could only eat one thing for the rest of my life, it would be this caramel pudding cake. LITERALLY! There's nothing on the face of the earth that can compare to this miracle.")

Yes Mr. Waiter, I do appreciate your assistance, but I didn't choose to dine with you. I chose to dine with the other people in my party. I really don't want to feel obligated to laugh at your jokes, and I don't want to be your friend. I'd like for you to just assist the people in my party to have a nice time. You aren't part of the party, so please don't act like you are. Thank you.


Why don't you go ahead and write that down on a notecard and hand it out the next time you eat at a restaurant, since psychic ability is NOT a prerequisite for the job. Also keep in mind that people would rather have an over the top server than a sullen jerk. Your waiter isn't actually THAT happy to see you, but he has a job to do, and part of that job is to make a couple of hundred different people happy every night.
 
2013-03-04 08:46:57 PM
I like to know the name of my waiter/waitress.  I like the ability to refer to my waiter/waitress by name.  It makes building rapport between the two of us easier.  Plus I've never known a waiter/waitress not to appreciate that effort.  Sometimes it doesn't result in anything, sometimes it makes sure that my drink never goes empty.  Never have I never entertained the idea that I was so above the waitstaff that I didn't know or care about the waiter/waitress's name.
 
2013-03-04 08:49:24 PM

Iplaybass: I'm glad tipping is not customary here. Staff get paid a reasonable wage, so despite their suggestions that we should tip, the vast majority of us don't. Those that do might leave 2 or 3 bucks, tops.

I think the whole idea of tipping is a bit strange. You have an employer. I give them money when I purchase food/services. Let them pay you. I shouldn't have to!

I still tip when I'm in a country where it's customary.


Not only do the restaurants pay absolute shiat, they lobby and fight to continue paying that wage every time minimum wage goes up. It was $2.11/hr in '90 when I started waiting tables, and the people have gotten a 2 cent raise in 22 years.
 
2013-03-04 08:49:40 PM

shotglasss: Get a job, morans!


That's photoshopped.
 
2013-03-04 08:49:53 PM
Kyle Smith is a pedantic, stuck-up, dickwadish, homophobic Masshole from East Longmeadow who can go fark himself with a turbocharged dirt devil.  I hope every server in the USA looks up his picture, and when he visits, wipes their ass on his plate before "serving" it up to him.  But he'd probably secretly like that.

/paid for college waiting tables, and enjoyed 95% of my time with customers
//it is the restaurant owner/management who force unnatural cheerfulness and mandatory scripts wait staff most of the time
///there are bad people in customer service everywhere just as there are nasty, bad people who call themselves "journalists" or "authors"
 
2013-03-04 08:52:25 PM

shotglasss: Get a job, morans!

[webpages.charter.net image 450x600]


That turned out to be a fake.  The receipt was photoshopped.
 
2013-03-04 08:53:06 PM

calbert: shotglasss: Get a job, morans!

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x373]

Here's The Authentic Receipt At The Heart Of The "1% Tip" Hoax Story


earthworm2.0: shotglasss: Get a job, morans!

That's photoshopped.


Yes, I know!
 
2013-03-04 08:54:21 PM

ISO15693: monstera: I used to wait tables, so I'm really getting a kick out of this...but seriously, I start at 20% and let them work their way down...or up. That's my policy and I recommend it.

20%? For a tip? They'd have to be one heck of a server to earn a double tip.


you are the definition of cheap.
 
2013-03-04 08:59:26 PM

KrispyKritter: you are the definition of cheap.


In his mind, they're lucky to be getting that 10%. If they want a better wage, the should get a job that doesn't rely on tipping. He's already paid for the food (the price of which includes the service) and they'd damn well better not grat him.
 
2013-03-04 09:01:12 PM

SirEattonHogg: If its a pricey place, I like waiters with a smile, being polite and especially knowledgeable about the food.  That last part is important.  If I ask for a recommendation, please don't tell me everything is good.  That's bullshiat.   You suggest a good dish and wine pairing, that's an automatic increase in the tip.

I personally don't like the overly familiar waiter with the jokes.  I thought the writer sounded like a real a-hole, but he's correct on one point - I'm not dining with the waiter.

The only exception is if I'm eating at the bar and the bartender is serving.  OR the waiter is like the cute Asian waitress I had in Santa Monica a few days ago.  She was good looking and slighty flirty (I dont care if she was just trolling for tips - it worked).


I'm getting a kick out of everyone here that thinks waitstaff has a secret book that tells them the criteria for each customer.

'Oooooh! It's "Bob". Remember, he wants you to be knowledgeable, but not friendly. Wait guys, we have to see where he sits, because if he sits at the bar, THEN he wants you to be his buddy. Oh, I almost forgot, if he sits in Soon-Yi's section, she's supposed to flirt with him. But nobody else, OK? Wow, it's a good thing we have this written down for every potential customer on the planet, isn't it?'.
 
2013-03-04 09:02:54 PM
Frankly, gar♥♥çon,

This is where I stopped taking you seriously as a human being.
 
2013-03-04 09:03:29 PM

Great Janitor: I like to know the name of my waiter/waitress.  I like the ability to refer to my waiter/waitress by name.  It makes building rapport between the two of us easier.  Plus I've never known a waiter/waitress not to appreciate that effort.  Sometimes it doesn't result in anything, sometimes it makes sure that my drink never goes empty.  Never have I never entertained the idea that I was so above the waitstaff that I didn't know or care about the waiter/waitress's name.


This guy gets it...
 
2013-03-04 09:04:59 PM

Meatybrain: timujin: (And in France, I've been baffled to get turned away from an entirely empty establishment at 6 p.m. because all tables are already reserved - for diners who intend to show up at 7:30 or 8 or 8:15. Don't they want my money in the meantime?)

Maybe they picked up on the fact that you're a pretentious dick and couldn't be bothered to deal with you.

You mean they thought he was French too?

Not wanting to agree, but sometimes even whinging twunts have a point because even though he isn't really on point about most of the small places I have been to I do agree that the places where waiting is reduced to a set of rules that enforce an overly-interactive experience are abhorrent to me and I hate even more that the people I can get to (staff) have absolutely no control over how annoying they have to be to keep their shiatty jobs and the people who actually deserve to be eviscerated with a mad badger (management/ownagement) I can't touch because who can get to these bastards in their beach chalets and massive yachts when even a brainy, meaty person such as myself can't even get more than a fortnight's vacation time and who can afford to save enough to stay at a decent hotel so you can relax while you're on your mad revenge-fueled spree on the wages you get these days I mean really it's enough to make you go mental it really is.

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2013-03-04 09:05:07 PM
You know, not being a dick should apply to every facet of life as much as possible.  You're no better than the person whose job it is to provide service to you, no matter what your inflated sense of yourself might tell you to the contrary.  Your waiter, your mechanic, the kid who bags your groceries, etc., all have names and families and stuff going on in their lives.  We all think we're kings and queens in America, but the fact is, we rent our servants, and we share our servants, and, come to think of it, they're servers, not servants.  They're people, doing a job, usually a kinda shiatty one, so just quick being a dick.  All of you, but especially you, Kyle.  You are better than no one.  Would you like a nice big slice of humble pie for desert?  It's on the house.
 
2013-03-04 09:05:53 PM

shotglasss: calbert: shotglasss: Get a job, morans!

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x373]

Here's The Authentic Receipt At The Heart Of The "1% Tip" Hoax Story

earthworm2.0: shotglasss: Get a job, morans!

That's photoshopped.

Yes, I know!


I was late to the party and acted like I was first. My bad.
 
2013-03-04 09:09:42 PM
20% of my order's value? To carry a note to the kitchen and a plate back? Nice try, assholes.
 
2013-03-04 09:11:11 PM
Now waitstaff knows what he looks like.
 
2013-03-04 09:11:14 PM

Martstar: You know, not being a dick should apply to every facet of life as much as possible.  You're no better than the person whose job it is to provide service to you, no matter what your inflated sense of yourself might tell you to the contrary.  Your waiter, your mechanic, the kid who bags your groceries, etc., all have names and families and stuff going on in their lives.  We all think we're kings and queens in America, but the fact is, we rent our servants, and we share our servants, and, come to think of it, they're servers, not servants.  They're people, doing a job, usually a kinda shiatty one, so just quick being a dick.  All of you, but especially you, Kyle.  You are better than no one.  Would you like a nice big slice of humble pie for desert?  It's on the house.


Yeah, the "servant" thing was absolute bullshiat. If I ran a restaurant, this Guy's picture would be in the back, and the serving staff would still have to treat him politely, but they would not be expected to exert a single erg of extra energy on the dude. Take his order, drop his food, drop his check. If he wonders why the Jones family keeps getting drink refills awhile he has to wait, it's going turn out that THEY never wrote a screed about how "bad" having an attentive waitstaff is.
 
2013-03-04 09:11:35 PM

Mikey1969:
Why don't you go ahead and write that down on a notecard and hand it out the next time you eat at a restaurant, since psychic ability is NOT a prerequisite for the job. Also keep in mind that people would rather have an over the top server than a sullen jerk. Your waiter isn't actually THAT happy to see you, but he has a job to do, and part of that job is to make a couple of hundred different people happy every night.


No, I don't expect them to be psychics. What I DO expect is that they have a modicum of emotional intelligence, which may lead them to the conclusion that THEY aren't supposed to be the center of attention at our gathering, and I didn't show up at the restaurant to see their "act". I'd like for them to be helpful and courteous. That's more than enough to keep most people happy.

Of course I would rather have an over the top server than a sullen jerk, but why are there only two choices? Perhaps you weren't aware that it's possible for a waiter not to be over the top, and also not be a sullen jerk. Amazing, huh?

If my waiter isn't THAT happy to see me, I would really appreciate it if he didn't put on the phony face and voice and treat me like I were his long lost friend. A helpful attitude is all that I ask for. Don't try to be witty. Don't kiss my ass. Don't do anything that might make a reasonable person roll their eyes. That's not too much to ask for . And when waiters are wise enough to do this, I will give, at minimum, a 20% tip.
 
2013-03-04 09:11:48 PM
you know who has good waitresses? waffle house. my coffee's never empty, my order's always right, they're no-nonsense about writing down what i want to eat, and if i'm sitting there for a while after finishing they'll refill my coffee again and ask if i want anything else. otherwise they ignore me. i didn't see the article as tipping-related, but those ladies (they always are) earn their 20-25%.

/"these creepy ex-darlings of their high-school theater departments"nails the average wait-person, even at chili's or some such, so very well.
 
2013-03-04 09:14:10 PM

KrispyKritter: ISO15693: monstera: I used to wait tables, so I'm really getting a kick out of this...but seriously, I start at 20% and let them work their way down...or up. That's my policy and I recommend it.

20%? For a tip? They'd have to be one heck of a server to earn a double tip.

you are the definition of cheap.


I think he was kidding... I may be wrong though.
 
2013-03-04 09:18:59 PM
I have to agree. I don't want my waiter to have personality unless I ask him a question involving his or her opinion of a dish. A really good waiter should be almost unnoticeable, but accessible when needed.
 
2013-03-04 09:20:38 PM

Atomic Spunk: Mikey1969:
Why don't you go ahead and write that down on a notecard and hand it out the next time you eat at a restaurant, since psychic ability is NOT a prerequisite for the job. Also keep in mind that people would rather have an over the top server than a sullen jerk. Your waiter isn't actually THAT happy to see you, but he has a job to do, and part of that job is to make a couple of hundred different people happy every night.

No, I don't expect them to be psychics. What I DO expect is that they have a modicum of emotional intelligence, which may lead them to the conclusion that THEY aren't supposed to be the center of attention at our gathering, and I didn't show up at the restaurant to see their "act". I'd like for them to be helpful and courteous. That's more than enough to keep most people happy.

Of course I would rather have an over the top server than a sullen jerk, but why are there only two choices? Perhaps you weren't aware that it's possible for a waiter not to be over the top, and also not be a sullen jerk. Amazing, huh?

If my waiter isn't THAT happy to see me, I would really appreciate it if he didn't put on the phony face and voice and treat me like I were his long lost friend. A helpful attitude is all that I ask for. Don't try to be witty. Don't kiss my ass. Don't do anything that might make a reasonable person roll their eyes. That's not too much to ask for . And when waiters are wise enough to do this, I will give, at minimum, a 20% tip.


The point is that servers have to hit some median setting and don't really have time to figure out what every table's special needs are, and often err on the side of caution.

Of course, I seem to be the only person who hasn't been waited on by an overly excited server, they're nice, professional and well informed when we go out.
 
2013-03-04 09:22:05 PM

NobleHam: I have to agree. I don't want my waiter to have personality unless I ask him a question involving his or her opinion of a dish. A really good waiter should be almost unnoticeable, but accessible when needed.


Because at $2.13/hr they have time to be there just for you.
 
2013-03-04 09:22:57 PM

Mikey1969: Not only do the restaurants pay absolute shiat, they lobby and fight to continue paying that wage every time minimum wage goes up. It was $2.11/hr in '90 when I started waiting tables, and the people have gotten a 2 cent raise in 22 years.


So don't work for tips.
 
2013-03-04 09:24:43 PM
I don't like an overly eager waiter/waitress either. No need to ask me if everything's alright every 5 minutes, just look over at my table every now and then and if I need you I'll flag you down. Just make sure you actually do that, nothing more annoying than sitting there for 10 minutes waiting for your server to quit chatting up the cute bartender long enough to glance my way.
 
2013-03-04 09:25:38 PM
Waitron (Or Trons, as they are referred to here in Atlanta) has been around since the 1970's.  And most waitstaff is about that robotic.
 
2013-03-04 09:26:22 PM

Mikey1969: NobleHam: I have to agree. I don't want my waiter to have personality unless I ask him a question involving his or her opinion of a dish. A really good waiter should be almost unnoticeable, but accessible when needed.

Because at $2.13/hr they have time to be there just for you.


Weird, many can do this JUST fine.
 
2013-03-04 09:26:27 PM

rga184: The hell she didn't, she kept shoving them in my face and jiggling them.


Double mastectomy. 1980
Cancer sucks.
She lived another year.
 
2013-03-04 09:28:23 PM
I suppose I was fortunate.  When I was a 'servant' there weren't a lot of jerks like this guy.  Sure, catch me at the end of a long busy shift, and I might tell you the job sucks, the customers suck, but most of the time it's just a job.  People come in to enjoy a meal, you do your best to make it happen, and most folks tip fairly.

Everybody has a bad day, and once you start feeling trod on you can notice every little indignity.  But most days you just brush off the bad ones, you deal with them and move on to the normal customers, and at the end of the night, you get a beer with the rest of the crew, and maybe goof on the one customer you got today like the writer of the article.    If you can't let it roll off your back, please please don't get into the restaurant business, though.  It will make you miserable, cynical, and hypersensitive to any criticism.  But if you can just let it go, you rarely get the drama that makes the papers.
 
2013-03-04 09:30:26 PM
As a chef, I judge places when I go in. I watch the waitstaff, the menu, specials, staffing on the floor, layout, bar, drinks, how long the food takes, presentation, the whole nine. I am a professional, so it behooves me to see how others are doing things, compare and contrast, maybe see if they're trying something that I haven't seen before, or something I have seen before, but are doing better or worse than some. I watch, I take mental notes, if the waitstaff take too long, or do something out of line, or do something that is particularly good, I take a moment to mention it to the manager. Usually after I leave, because no one wants to make a scene and take time away from their watching their own floor.

That being said, there are places I don't go, because the waitstaff are terrible. There are places I don't go because the food isn't to my liking--style, presentation, just plain quality issues. It's not a big deal to go to a place, and realize that it's not your cup of tea. My current favorite is a little breakfast place, they do sandwiches, for lunch, nothing special, but the coffee's good, and the waitstaff let me read and work in peace, and I tip them well enough that they have my coffee and order out fair quick and with a smile. As a customer, you have to communicate your needs to the staff. Being a douche about it isn't really the way to do that.

On the first time through, the staff aren't going to know what you need, unless you communicate with them. There are ways to communicate, "Turn down the hard sell" that aren't douchey. Sometimes that means actually communicating with the staff as people, which our Dear Author seems loathe to do, and instead rely on their magic powerz to read his thoughts and dreams and lay out the perfect experience for him by dint of his sterling reputation as an International Man of Mystery. Maybe he has simply ignored the signs that he's about to walk into a fern bar with plastic plants and smiles, but the staff are doing what their management are trying to project. You can short circuit that, or if the whole staff is on board with it like a chain restaurant that is about to pull out some recockulous cocktails served in special glasses with multicoloered straws and there's a dancing fountain, maybe you might want to rethink your lunch plans. Or go with it, and have a good time, and laugh with the poor bastiches who are enduring the Kahunaville experience, every soul crushing day, and maybe not be a dick about it.

Waitstaff can't read your mind. They will learn your preferences soon enough, if you keep coming back, and aren't a dick. If you don't like the atmosphere, then don't return. Not returning is your vote, being a dick that you're not having a good time because you weren't met with adoration and the "perfect" service that you imagine in your deepest wellspring of the soul, but can't communicate with mere mortals, isn't justified, it just means you're a dick.

It's only food, man. It's lunch. It's dinner. Find places you like, and actually communicate with the staff instead of looking at them as interchangeable cogs. Or servants. Maybe, just maybe, get over the entitlement that YOUR money buys service, and understand that in a good joint, it's ladies and gentlemen serving ladies and gentleman, and maybe you should act out your role as such.
 
2013-03-04 09:31:01 PM
Serious question:  At a white linen tablecloth restaurant with a party of 13.  While waiting for our deserts, a waitress other than ours comes up to me and asks if she can buy me a drink at the bar.  Am I supposed to know that is a special code for "I want to talk to you in private and tell you to hurry up because we have lots of people waiting in the bar for tables"?

We hadn't even gotten our check yet, much less our desert.  Am I right to be pissed off about it?
 
2013-03-04 09:31:28 PM
Here's what I tweeted to this douche ( huh, auto-correct does douche ):

"­ky­l­e*sm­i­th[nospam-﹫-backwards]tso­pyn*com first world problems are so annoying, you should probably kill yourself, it's only getting worse, oh the suffering "

So, I'll probably be going to prison for internet threats, even though I am voicing an opinion -- one shared by many.  DAMN MY INDIGNATION!

/ seriously, he should probably kill himself
 
2013-03-04 09:33:29 PM

Mikey1969: NobleHam: I have to agree. I don't want my waiter to have personality unless I ask him a question involving his or her opinion of a dish. A really good waiter should be almost unnoticeable, but accessible when needed.

Because at $2.13/hr they have time to be there just for you.


Yeah, I'm against that. You want tips? farkin' impress me. Being an average waiter? That's not impressive. Juggle knives and a tomato bing bam boom a tomato salad lands on my plate? That's $20 right there.
 
2013-03-04 09:33:52 PM
I love it when people who sit on their ass and do jack and shiat for a living biatch about tipping waiters and waitresses because "they haven't earned it".......

If you think all they do is walk a ticket to the kitchen and drop your food at your table then you should ask Santa Claus for a third brain cell for Christmas to keep the other two company....
 
2013-03-04 09:34:35 PM

mahuika: Strangely, New York waitrons (my generic term for both sexes of waitstaff) don't even serve anything anymore.
Uh, there are already several gender neutral terms for that. In fact you actually used one in the definition of your made-up word.


He didn't say he made up the word. He said that's the word he uses. And it's a legitimate, if rarely used, word.
 
2013-03-04 09:35:23 PM
Kyle knows how to fill a column:  just paste together clips from readers' emails.
 
2013-03-04 09:37:10 PM

MayoBoy: Serious question:  At a white linen tablecloth restaurant with a party of 13.  While waiting for our deserts, a waitress other than ours comes up to me and asks if she can buy me a drink at the bar.  Am I supposed to know that is a special code for "I want to talk to you in private and tell you to hurry up because we have lots of people waiting in the bar for tables"?

We hadn't even gotten our check yet, much less our desert.  Am I right to be pissed off about it?


At any place I've ever worked that waitress would be fired.
 
2013-03-04 09:39:56 PM

MayoBoy: Serious question:  At a white linen tablecloth restaurant with a party of 13.  While waiting for our deserts, a waitress other than ours comes up to me and asks if she can buy me a drink at the bar.  Am I supposed to know that is a special code for "I want to talk to you in private and tell you to hurry up because we have lots of people waiting in the bar for tables"?

We hadn't even gotten our check yet, much less our desert.  Am I right to be pissed off about it?


I'd be pissed to. I'm not the type to sit around after finishing my meal, but if I'm still eating or having a cup of coffee after my meal I could give a rats ass how many people are waiting, I waited my turn they can wait theirs.
 
2013-03-04 09:44:20 PM

Martstar: You know, not being a dick should apply to every facet of life as much as possible.  You're no better than the person whose job it is to provide service to you, no matter what your inflated sense of yourself might tell you to the contrary.  Your waiter, your mechanic, the kid who bags your groceries, etc., all have names and families and stuff going on in their lives.  We all think we're kings and queens in America, but the fact is, we rent our servants, and we share our servants, and, come to think of it, they're servers, not servants.  They're people, doing a job, usually a kinda shiatty one, so just quick being a dick.  All of you, but especially you, Kyle.  You are better than no one.  Would you like a nice big slice of humble pie for desert?  It's on the house.


It's amazing how many of the major religious tenets of the world boil down to "don't be a dick."
 
2013-03-04 09:45:12 PM

fredklein: Iplaybass: I think the whole idea of tipping is a bit strange. You have an employer. I give them money when I purchase food/services. Let them pay you. I shouldn't have to!

How DARE you bring logic into a tipping thread! I should spit in your food and throw your steak on the floor!!


That's not logic.  But whatever gets you to sleep at night.
 
2013-03-04 09:47:35 PM

frontwheeldriver: //it is the restaurant owner/management who force unnatural cheerfulness and mandatory scripts wait staff most of the time


This, a hundred billion times this. I waited tables for 8 years, I would  love to be everything Kyle Smith wants: no socialization of any kind, call me if you need me. Unfortunately the demand for that type of service is low - does this dude think these people actually give a damn about him and want to be his friend?
 
2013-03-04 09:48:32 PM
Kyle: "Hi, I'm Kyle and I will be your New York Post blogger this evening"

Paco: "Hi Kyle, to be honest, I don't care what your name is, what stupid thing you're about to say, that you're tougher and edgier than a sexually ambiguous theater kid or that for some reason you think visiting France or spending $150 on a single meal gives you the authority to be a giant d-bag."

Kyle (smiling inanely): "Well I'm going to continue telling you my opinions anyway."

Paco: "Kyle, wait, you didn't let me reach the best part.  I don't have to tip you shiat, because instead of standing on your feet all day and having to pretend that you like a parade of self righteous high maintenance assholes like yourself, you sit at a Starbucks all day coming up with ways to troll the NY public for $400 a dung heap your editor mistakes as a column.  Any New Yorker who admits they leave 10% tips should be forced to read your film reviews.
 
2013-03-04 09:52:44 PM

Barricaded Gunman: teeny: Holy shiat. What a pretentious douchebag.

No, no... Kyle isn't pretentious. He's just a little bit better than most people, because he "...tries to spend a week or two every year" in France. I don't know how you missed his suave internationalism, as he managed to offhandedly mention it twice in a very short article, with the same phony-casual manner in which television cops use chopsticks to eat Chinese food.


I, too, try to spend a week or two in France every year. And every year I fail completely.
 
2013-03-04 09:55:30 PM

MayoBoy: Serious question:  At a white linen tablecloth restaurant with a party of 13.  While waiting for our deserts, a waitress other than ours comes up to me and asks if she can buy me a drink at the bar.  Am I supposed to know that is a special code for "I want to talk to you in private and tell you to hurry up because we have lots of people waiting in the bar for tables"?

We hadn't even gotten our check yet, much less our desert.  Am I right to be pissed off about it?


Doesn't matter if the restaurant has tablecloths or not, or what they're made of. That isn't acceptable. If you guys have been done for an hour, and are JUST having drinks, then MAYBE your server(Or the manager) tactfully asks if they can free up the table because they have customers that need it, but tact is more important than freeing up the table, and if they feel like they are inconveniencing you at all, then a round of drinks may be in order.

You can ask this, but like I said, you have to be done with everything but drinks, be regulars that people feel comfortable asking this of, or something similar.

**I DO have to say that I hate campers, though. The people who sit at your table and order coffee refill after coffee refill and sit at your table for another hour or two after they've paid, and expect you to keep filling that coffee, or just let them sit there, and then be ready to jump at a moment's notice when they suddenly decide that they have sat at the table so long that they're hungry again, and decide they want to order a side of fries or some such shiat. This is particularly bad when the restaurant s closed, and everything is done but this *one* table, especially when last call is sneaking up...**

I know this isn't what you were describing, I just felt the need to vent.
 
2013-03-04 09:56:11 PM
New York restaurant
New York customer
New york waitstaff

I'm seeing a common theme here.
 
2013-03-04 09:58:26 PM
This idiot writer managed to make a big enough asshole of himself that the thread isn't completely dominated by people airing their restaurant grievances and complaining about tipping culture?... I think that might be a first.

Here's to you, Mr. Pretentious-Inflammatory-Whining-and-Making-No-Actual-Point-Guy!
 
2013-03-04 09:59:36 PM

MayoBoy: Serious question:  At a white linen tablecloth restaurant with a party of 13.  While waiting for our deserts, a waitress other than ours comes up to me and asks if she can buy me a drink at the bar.  Am I supposed to know that is a special code for "I want to talk to you in private and tell you to hurry up because we have lots of people waiting in the bar for tables"?

We hadn't even gotten our check yet, much less our desert.  Am I right to be pissed off about it?


No, you're not right to be pissed off about it because it's a trivial and non-insulting request that shows she's trying to balance your needs with the needs of other guests.

You certianly don't have to comply, but getting all butt hurt about it makes you look like a giant douche bag.
 
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