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(Yahoo)   Oliwia Dabrowska, the 'red coat girl' from Schindler's List, broke a promise to Steven Spielberg and watched the movie at age eleven. Guess how she felt about it   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 33
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2013-03-04 05:48:01 PM
4 votes:
The thing about the Academy Awards that year was how all four of the better Supporting Actor nominees lost to the least of the nominees.

You had...

-Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List
-Pete Postlethwaite for In the Name of the Father
-John Malkovich for In the Line of the Fire
-Leonardo DiCaprio for What's Eating Gilbert Grape

... all losing to Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive.

Huh?

I mean, I love TLJ's work and thought he was good in The Fugitive, but I didn't think he was THAT good, and definitely not better than the other four nominees.
2013-03-04 05:30:46 PM
3 votes:
There are several movies that really screwed me over when I saw them as a kid. I've hunted most of them down and watched them as an adult and they've lost the horror they held before. There are just some things a small kid does not have the experience to cope with.
2013-03-04 04:06:39 PM
3 votes:
I'm sure it is an awesome movie. I never need to see it.
2013-03-05 03:56:53 AM
2 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: She thought that her role was dumbing down the movie by making the horrors of the Holocaust even more blatant?


If you think that was the point of coloring the girl's jacket, then I'm afraid you've missed the point entirely and haven't considered this issue very deeply.  It is easy to follow the vocal minority's gut reaction of "dumbed down"!  It is much harder to analyze these scenes carefully and acknowledge their important role in the film.  The fact is, it would be a lesser film without the coloring of the little girl's jacket.

Consider this interesting technical problem:  in a black and white film, how do you make it clear that Schindler later (much later) sees the little girl's exhumed corpse in a wagon, heading towards a human bonfire?  This is a key moment in the film (as is the first moment that he spots her in the ghetto), and Schindler's viewing of the girl is the primary catalyst for all that follows.  Coloring the girls' jacket was a clever way to solve this problem, as well as introduce an important symbol into the film.  Think about what she represents to the character of Oskar Schindler.  Up to the point of the ghetto evacuation, he has managed to overlook the building horrors around him, rationalizing what is happening as acts of war (and feeling comforted by his own protected status).  Viewing the carnage of the ghetto evacuation from up above, his fixation on the little girl forces him to fully confront the horror before him for the first time.  She is the symbol that catalyzes him to action that will put himself in harm's way.  It is much easier to empathize with individuals who we can relate to, than with groups who are more difficult to relate to, and this is why she's used as a symbol in this way.

It's a great artistic choice that makes the film even more dramatic and Schindler's motivations even clearer.
2013-03-04 04:11:40 PM
2 votes:

wildcardjack: I made a platonic friend watch Schindlers List one night.


That'll teach them to friend zone you.
2013-03-04 03:56:02 PM
2 votes:
Article says she was 3 when the movie was released, meaning she was probably 2 when her scenes were filmed.

That was one mature 2 year old making promises to Steven Spielberg and looking like she was about 6.
2013-03-05 01:01:56 AM
1 votes:

Repsej: Nope, I won't watch it. I get what happened. I can't watch it. I have read enough about it that I will do anything in my power to make sure it doesn't happen again...and then it does in some far flung part of the world. Every good life snuffed out by assholes makes me sad, heart sick and angry. the worst part is that there are excuses made for countries the USA is friends with. Seperate the religion from the person and think of innocent little kids being killed...does it matter what their parents believe? Does it really? Every innocent life lost is a major crime against humanity. You can throw out a big number to link a particular death with a belief, but it doesn't change the fact that each person is one person who died, who never should have.


Good. You seem to have still gotten the lesson: he who saves one life saves the world entire.
2013-03-05 12:23:33 AM
1 votes:
How did the other girl turn out?
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2013-03-04 11:36:07 PM
1 votes:
Spielberg's WW2 trilogy:

Empire of the Sun
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan

Watching them all in a row on a decent home theater system makes for a sombre day in the end. It gives you a pretty good idea what is must have felt like at the end of the war for a lot of people.
2013-03-04 09:00:43 PM
1 votes:
In college we used to pay to see one movie and sneak into a second (and sometimes a third) for free.

Worst double feature ever?  Schindler's List and Ace Ventura Pet Detective.

The best, oddly enough, was Goodfellas and Home Alone.  It seemed as though at any moment Pesci might throw the Culkin kid to the ground and stomp him to death.  And that felt wonderful.
2013-03-04 08:54:57 PM
1 votes:

germ78: T.rex: never saw it... nor have i ever seen Bachelor Party, Blues Brothers, or Jerry McGuire.

DonaldSutherlandPointingInvasionOfBodySnatchers.jpg

It's required viewing if you ever visit Chicago. I've probably seen it enough times to cover everybody in this thread. Classic musical-comedy movie too.


If you've never seen "Blues Brothers" or "Animal House"...you're not a human being in my book.
2013-03-04 07:34:58 PM
1 votes:
assets.sport.ro

She aged pretty well.
2013-03-04 06:54:40 PM
1 votes:

mrlewish: Why are some of you so traumatized? You do know crap like that still happens in one form or another.


Yeah this.

Seriously was this the first time any of you learned about the Holocaust or did you just not know what you were getting yourself into?
2013-03-04 06:22:10 PM
1 votes:

karmaceutical: Schindler's List is some fairly high grade schmaltz.  Spielberg likes to direct as though the audience is unable to come to their own emotional conclusions.  Or, maybe more to the point, the film is both visually and emotionally monotone.

Compare and contrast with:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x329]


I have never seen Life is Beautiful but I couldn't disagree with you more about Schindler's List.  That was the least Spielbergian movie Spielberg ever made.  It was brutal, unforgiving and unflinching.  I thought it was brilliantly shot, evocative and inspiring but never trying to be so intentionally artful that it strayed from the fact that this was a very farked up time and things were bleak--everywhere.  Emotionally monotone?  Were you expecting highs to go with the lows?  I wasn't.
2013-03-04 06:16:15 PM
1 votes:

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The thing about the Academy Awards that year was how all four of the better Supporting Actor nominees lost to the least of the nominees.

You had...

-Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List
-Pete Postlethwaite for In the Name of the Father
-John Malkovich for In the Line of the Fire
-Leonardo DiCaprio for What's Eating Gilbert Grape

... all losing to Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive.

Huh?

I mean, I love TLJ's work and thought he was good in The Fugitive, but I didn't think he was THAT good, and definitely not better than the other four nominees.


I suspect the four really good nominees split the vote of the serious voters and TLJ benefited when he got the votes from the member who only had time/interest to see the Fugitive.   I wish they'd reveal the totals so we could see by how many votes he won.
2013-03-04 06:06:20 PM
1 votes:

T.rex: I don't want to hear about historical inaccuracies, and soforth... The point of the movie is not to tell us about Schindler's life...


Some truths need no exaggeration. Even if for effect (dramatic or otherwise).

And the movie was directly based off of a book whose raison d'être was to tell us about Schindler's life during the Holocaust.

/yeah, i'm the life of every party.
2013-03-04 05:54:45 PM
1 votes:
I watched it once and barely remember it. Not that it was bad, but I think that my mind blocked out how heartwrenching it was. I think that I caught it on NBC in 1997, too. Lets see... I was 15 or 16, depending upon the air date.

I have never seen Grave of the Fireflies, but I want to. I was curious about Watership Down, and might yet, but the one with the dogs, never in a million years. Although it is completely different, after carrying my bleeding dog into a vet, her blood all over my shirt, crying and begging for them to save her, anything involving the abuse of dogs (animals in general, but dogs especially) tears me apart.

/going to hug my basset and rub her belly now
2013-03-04 05:53:07 PM
1 votes:

WippitGuud: If you want something less anime, The Road is something to watch. Christ that movie just knocked you down and kept kicking and kicking...


Boy howdy, The Road's tough.

The book's even harder.  I mean, the movie left stuff *out.*
2013-03-04 05:31:31 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: gameshowhost: Schindler's List was too long.

/no, not the film
//*runs*

Damn you.  I laughed at that.


With a name like "Adolph", how could you not?

\I laughed too, then I had a sad
2013-03-04 05:31:17 PM
1 votes:
Sinbox:

The only film on the Holocaust you ever need to see.

The first, the last, the only.

Bring Kleenex by the palletload.

But...if you must see another:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x314]

is very nearly as tearduct-exercising.



The Pianist was also really really good.
2013-03-04 05:30:08 PM
1 votes:
Why are some of you so traumatized? You do know crap like that still happens in one form or another.
2013-03-04 05:23:13 PM
1 votes:

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: RexTalionis: I saw that movie on NBC when it was broadcasted uninterrupted in 1997. I liked it. I thought it was a great movie.

I think that's how I first saw it, and I was in high school at the time.

I remember being utterly gutpunched by the film.

Jaws is my favorite Spielberg film, but I think Schindler's List is his best work.  John Williams' score, in particular, is especially effective and haunting here.


I think the best decision in making that movie was to keep it in B&W; making it in color wouldn't have given it the...feeling of haunting that you have in watching it.
2013-03-04 05:20:55 PM
1 votes:

Eirik: I'm hearing good things about this "Grave of the Fireflies". I'll have to rent it for them this weekend.


meat0918: I'll never watch "Grave of the Fireflies". I don't care how good people say it is.


You feel empty for at least a week if you should ever see it, I kid you not.

I don't really like anime, but I rented that after a lot of recommendations on TotalFark Discussion.

I could never bring myself to watch that film again.  That's not hyperbole.  There's absolutely no way I could force myself to watch that a second time.
2013-03-04 05:19:07 PM
1 votes:

Eirik: I watched it in college with a couple friends   We sat, unable to move, until the credits were over and the house lights came back on.  We were far from the only ones that did that (it was in the 1000 seat Fremont theater in San Luis Obispo.  It wasn't full, but many people seems stuck in their seats.)

When we walked out onto the street, my friend said, "That was the greatest movie I'll never watch again."  I kind of agreed with him,

/Won't let my kids see it until at least high school.
//Classic animated fare for the time being.
///I'm hearing good things about this "Grave of the Fireflies".  I'll have to rent it for them this weekend.


I'll never watch "Grave of the Fireflies".  I don't care how good people say it is.
2013-03-04 05:12:11 PM
1 votes:
I was 18 when it came out and I took my girlfriend to see it. As the movie progressed, she kept slinking lower and lower into her seat. I asked her several times if she wanted to leave and she kept saying "I'm fine".

Then they were rounding people up for the trains or the camps (I forget which) and they shot the kid. She asked if we could leave, so we did. I ended up going back a week later and watched it by myself.

/When I told the story of leaving to a friend, he told me about how he saw the movie with a friend who was fluent in German and lived there for years. Apparently, the commander that yelled at the guy after he shot the kids was yelling at him for not shooting him sooner.
//CSB
2013-03-04 05:11:28 PM
1 votes:
I only remember parts of the film as I was making out with my girlfriend during it....
2013-03-04 05:10:32 PM
1 votes:
As a movie it's very well made (great acting, great technical specs, great cinematagraphy, great score)

As history (especially the history of Oskar Shindler), it's grade-A bullpucky..

The scene at the end where he breaks down? It looks good on camera (and, yes, the one [and only] time i saw the film, i cried like what i imagine a kicked puppy would at that scene [and others].). The only problem is, it didn't happen. Even his surviving family members claim that he was so stoic that that action would have been so out-of-character for him that it would have been as if an alien intelligence had taken him over.

upload.wikimedia.org

The only film on the Holocaust you ever need to see.

The first, the last, the only.

Bring Kleenex by the palletload.

But...if you must see another:

upload.wikimedia.org

is very nearly as tearduct-exercising.
2013-03-04 05:07:12 PM
1 votes:
It is one of the outstanding films that I never want to see again. Way too depressing. Especially the end when the IRL survivors of the list and their actors were putting the stones on Oskar's grave.

/along with Grave of the Fireflies
2013-03-04 05:00:35 PM
1 votes:
She thought that her role was dumbing down the movie by making the horrors of the Holocaust even more blatant?

/Great movie, but that scene and Neeson's "I could have saved more people" speech at the end were really overblown.
2013-03-04 04:14:08 PM
1 votes:
I saw it once, before I had kids. I don't think I could make it through a viewing now.

I still get sick thinking about the scene in Amistad where the mother tips back overboard with her baby off the slave ship. Can't watch that one anymore, either.
2013-03-04 04:12:18 PM
1 votes:
Aging has been quite good to her.

/I'd get that Polish girl to polish my knob.
2013-03-04 04:08:45 PM
1 votes:
I think 11 is a little young to be watching Schindler's list.
2013-03-04 04:08:36 PM
1 votes:
I was 22 when it came out, I guess.  I was pretty traumatized.  Haunted, you might say.
 
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