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2013-03-04 04:21:53 PM  

thatboyoverthere: Wyalt Derp: Lesbian couples could become accidentally pregnant. Though it might have to be a pretty bizarre accident.

I could be a couple of bisexual women that decide to being a man into it once in a while..... Sorry what was I saying?


Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 
2013-03-04 04:22:01 PM  
That is really stupid, even for today's GOP.
 
2013-03-04 04:22:19 PM  
Been too long, he's been rehabbing hard for this moment

download.gamespotcdn.net
 
2013-03-04 04:22:39 PM  
Where are the GOP defenders? This thread sucks.
 
2013-03-04 04:22:45 PM  

cman: Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?


That's not the point. The point is what marriage means to society: Marriage is the Great Legitimizer. Marriage turns that punk who's slipping it to your precious princess every night into your beloved son-in-law. Marriage is what turns that shameless whore who moved into your son's apartment into your lovely daughter-in-law. Marriage is what keeps your unplanned grandchildren from being bastards. Marriage is society saying that this relationship is valid and a good thing.

That is the point. That is what they are fighting against.
 
2013-03-04 04:22:50 PM  

Lord_Baull: serial_crusher: Fluorescent Testicle: The great thing about this particular pile of dogshiat is that it's both homophobic and misogynistic ("Women exist only as breeding stock").

huh?
It's also racist ("black people are less intelligent than white people").
Hey, I like how that works.  Just put whatever ridiculous statement you want in parenthesis and quotes, and it's just like TFA actually said it!


If you study it out, you'll grasp the notion that a couple would/should only get married for procreation is what's being argued here.


I'll agree to that statement, but you've still got a pretty big inferential leap between that and women as breeding stock.  Unless you're also concluding that men are nothing but sperm donors.

The claim is that there's no reason to get married other than to produce kids.  So, does that infer that being unmarried (and therefore not having children) is a problem?  Even if it does, where does that problem only apply to one gender and not both?
 
2013-03-04 04:23:23 PM  

Lord_Baull: *they're

/shiat


No, it kind of works, it's as if they are in possession of this wrongness, and that makes it 'theirs'

/And they won't give it up, nor admit to having it as to keep others from taking it from them
 
2013-03-04 04:24:35 PM  

Lumpmoose: ThreadSinger: kid_icarus: I'm always a little confused on how their arguments against gay marriage invoke the "children" angle so much. Since when has bearing children ever factored into legal marriage for  anyone?I have a female friend who lost her ability to bear children when she was very young. Should she similarly be banned from marrying?

I've known people, up here in Ontario, for whom the answer would be a reluctant yes, weighted by a occasional "well, God might provide a miracle, so I guess it's ok?"

Upon which the proper response is: a miracle could make a man pregnant.  Why put limits on God?


Ha! Brilliant!
 
2013-03-04 04:24:40 PM  
Remember kids, when mommy and daddy yell at each other and break things, including each other or you, they're MUCH more loving and stable than any same-sex family could be!

And let's not forget all those kids who would be adopted by same-sex couples if they were allowed to adopt easily(or at all some places!) who are MUCH better off waiting for an opposite-sex couple to come along and take them in, right?
 
2013-03-04 04:25:53 PM  

serial_crusher: Lord_Baull: serial_crusher: Fluorescent Testicle: The great thing about this particular pile of dogshiat is that it's both homophobic and misogynistic ("Women exist only as breeding stock").

huh?
It's also racist ("black people are less intelligent than white people").
Hey, I like how that works.  Just put whatever ridiculous statement you want in parenthesis and quotes, and it's just like TFA actually said it!


If you study it out, you'll grasp the notion that a couple would/should only get married for procreation is what's being argued here.

I'll agree to that statement, but you've still got a pretty big inferential leap between that and women as breeding stock.  Unless you're also concluding that men are nothing but sperm donors.

The claim is that there's no reason to get married other than to produce kids.  So, does that infer that being unmarried (and therefore not having children) is a problem?  Even if it does, where does that problem only apply to one gender and not both?


Strictly speaking that would be true. But given the context (Republicans) I can see how he got there.
 
2013-03-04 04:26:20 PM  
Give it up, GOP.  History is being made, and you are on the wrong side of it.  You need to realize it before you become a footnote.
 
2013-03-04 04:26:42 PM  

coeyagi: "A people should know when they're conquered." -Quintus

Seriously, you guys need to stop.  I almost feel bad for you.  But that hole you're digging, it cannot possibley get any bigger.


Eh, maybe not.  But it's entertaining as all get-out to watch them try.

Keep digging an don't forget that chicken.
 
2013-03-04 04:29:05 PM  

Corvus: serial_crusher: Corvus: serial_crusher: Y'all know my position on this is that the government shouldn't recognize anybody's marriage,

But amazingly people like you only seem to bring this up when it's about gays marrying. What a surprise.

Well, we don't often have headlines about whether or not straight marriage should be legalized...
If one comes up and I miss it, please by all means EIP me.

/ I guess I could bring it up in the next bike thread or something, if you're just looking for any arbitrary variety....

So then you don't go to friends weddings? You tell them you are against them?

Well it's as arbitrary as this thread because they have NOTHING to do with making marriage illegal for everyone.


Usually I just say I'm out of vacation days and/or already have plans that weekend....

But no, there's no reason not to be happy for my friends being in a committed relationship even if it also opens them up to tax and immigration benefits that are denied to me.  I'm not really the jealous type.
Expecting me to boycott weddings over that would be like... well, like expecting gay marriage supporters to boycott weddings in a show of solidarity; which you'd hopefully find ridiculous.
 
2013-03-04 04:31:33 PM  
 FTFA: The opponents to gay marriage also argue it's possible the public perception of marriage would change if gay couples were allowed to wed, discouraging straight people from marrying.

This is the REAL problem. There's no way men are going to marry those annoying women with their gross vaginas and weird boobs if they have the option of marrying another dude and getting the sweet, sweet man-on-man action! I mean, I'm not even a closet homosexual or anything, and it's completely obvious to me!
 
2013-03-04 04:31:35 PM  

Hack Patooey: Give it up, GOP.  History is being made, and you are on the wrong side of it.  You need to realize it before you become a footnote.


On the contrary, I think that this should be the cannon ball that they hold as they sink into the depths.

DO NOT LET GO, CONSERVATIVES. DO NOT LET GO.
 
2013-03-04 04:32:01 PM  

Skarekrough: Keep digging an don't forget that chicken.


i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-04 04:32:18 PM  

serial_crusher: I'm not really the jealous type.


Horseshiat. You bring it up in every one of these threads.
 
2013-03-04 04:35:08 PM  
Gay woman raped and becomes pregnant?  Done, your argument is OVER!  DOMA loses...
I'm not a biologist or theologian, but will it happen that way?  Can lesbians shut that whole thing down?

/Paging Doctor Akin...
 
2013-03-04 04:39:37 PM  

Hack Patooey: Give it up, GOP.  History is being made, and you are on the wrong side of it.   You need to realize it before you become a footnote.


Nonsense.  I say double down.

Common sense is for quitters.
 
2013-03-04 04:41:34 PM  
Reposted for relevance...

Top Ten Reasons to Make Gay Marriage Illegal

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all like many of the principles on which this great country was founded; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
 
2013-03-04 04:41:55 PM  

cman: Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?


You know that by getting said contract, which they can't in most states, they can get benefits that you can get?  It's almost like you think they're lesser people.

Why do you hate them, bigot?
 
2013-03-04 04:47:21 PM  
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2013-03-04 04:50:28 PM  
Gays don't need access to marriage because no one needs it. Its a dumb bit of statist bloat lodged into a part of society where it isn't needed.

TheY should have access to it because straights do and everyone is entitled to equal treatment under the law and moving the other(correct) direction by yanking the carpet out from under heteros is politically impractical.
 
2013-03-04 04:50:55 PM  
www.asianbite.com
 
2013-03-04 04:51:22 PM  

meat0918: And as an aside, wth is with this being tagged Oregon Ducks Football?

[i457.photobucket.com image 850x132]


Aren't their uniforms kinda gay?
 
2013-03-04 04:52:36 PM  
What quantity of drugs, over what period of time, would a man have to take before any of that makes any kind of sense?
 
2013-03-04 04:52:55 PM  

GoodyearPimp: Endive Wombat: My reaction now almost every time a member of the GOP speaks:
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Seriously.  I'm not sure which is worse -- that there are people that thing up these sorts of things to say or that there are many many more people that will lap it up and vote straight ticket R next time around because they think attitudes like this are normal and should be encouraged.


And this is where I get cornfused, because I was always taught that good Christian Republican women would never have premarital sex and find themselves in the situation all those slutty librul women end up in (and since the good republican men are telling me this, I can only assume that they are also abstaining from nasty dirty sex, or at least hetero sex) .


O_o Where does babby come from?
 
2013-03-04 04:53:13 PM  

mod3072: FTFA: The opponents to gay marriage also argue it's possible the public perception of marriage would change if gay couples were allowed to wed, discouraging straight people from marrying.

This is the REAL problem. There's no way men are going to marry those annoying women with their gross vaginas and weird boobs if they have the option of marrying another dude and getting the sweet, sweet man-on-man action! I mean, I'm not even a closet homosexual or anything, and it's completely obvious to me!



You're probably more on to the reality of it for GOP men than you realize.
 
2013-03-04 04:54:08 PM  

coeyagi: You know that by getting said contract, which they can't in most states, they can get benefits that you can get?  It's almost like you think they're lesser people. Why do you hate them, bigot?


As much as I dislike that guy, he was directing his post to the GOP. The one and only good thing there is to say about him is that he's not a homophobe, even if that's only because it impacts his family.
 
2013-03-04 04:54:52 PM  

robsul82: [www.examiner.com image 300x385]

"No, but God knows we keep trying."


Came here for this.  Leaving satisfied.

/in more ways than one
 
2013-03-04 04:56:41 PM  
Well being gay is a genetic dead end. That said though there isn't any real reason to deny them same status as anyone else as they can still contribute as much or more than anyone else while they're around. The same reason we don't discriminate against cripples or any other birth defective people is that while some never contribute anything positive others can advance us considerably.
 
2013-03-04 04:57:53 PM  

Ilmarinen: Where are the GOP defenders? This thread sucks.


For a minute there I didn't even see any defenders on Yahoo.  Then I switched to "newest" comments instead of "most popular" and wept.
 
2013-03-04 04:58:06 PM  
In other news, SE Cupp has pulled out of cpac

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/se-cupp-on-cpac-gay-right_n _2 806373.html  . So, not all of the gop are completely clueless
 
2013-03-04 04:59:53 PM  

xaldin: Well being gay is a genetic dead end. That said though there isn't any real reason to deny them same status as anyone else as they can still contribute as much or more than anyone else while they're around. The same reason we don't discriminate against cripples or any other birth defective people is that while some never contribute anything positive others can advance us considerably.


1.5/10

you have no idea how many gay folks are in straight marriages. with kids. try googling the term beard . No, not Commander Riker .
 
2013-03-04 05:00:53 PM  

coeyagi: cman: Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?

You know that by getting said contract, which they can't in most states, they can get benefits that you can get?  It's almost like you think they're lesser people.

Why do you hate them, bigot?


Actually, I think when he's saying "your" church, he's pointing at the Righties... As in, if they don't want to allow gays to marry in their church, that's fine, let 'em keep their "sanctity of marriage", but when it comes to the part the government is actually involved in, why do the Righties care who enters into that contract?

Of course, I could be readin it wrong.
 
2013-03-04 05:01:34 PM  

alienated: In other news, SE Cupp has pulled out of cpac

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/se-cupp-on-cpac-gay-right_n _2 806373.html  . So, not all of the gop are completely clueless


Please be because she's had some sapphic porn leaked, please be because she's had some sapphic porn leaked...
 
2013-03-04 05:01:59 PM  
As to the infertility problem, there are many segments of the Republican party that would be perfectly fine putting people to death if they fail to produce offspring.
 
2013-03-04 05:03:11 PM  

coeyagi: cman: Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?

You know that by getting said contract, which they can't in most states, they can get benefits that you can get?  It's almost like you think they're lesser people.

Why do you hate them, bigot?


See, this is the cognitive dissonance I love in gay marriage threads.
Denying the marriage license based on sexual orientation makes you a bigot because of the perks associated with it, but denying the perks based on lack of a marriage certificate is acceptable.
Equality for me, fark everybody else.
 
2013-03-04 05:04:19 PM  
FTA: "Only a man and a woman can beget a child together without advance planning, which means that opposite-sex couples have a unique tendency to produce unplanned and unintended offspring," wrote Paul Clement, a prominent attorney representing congressional Republicans in the DOMA case.

When I read stuff like this, it makes me want to re-listen to the Supreme Court recorded oral arguments of Loving v. Virginia, just to see if I can detect any chuckling from the justices as the attorrney for Virginia is speaking about the necessity of his state's miscegenation laws.
 
2013-03-04 05:06:57 PM  

Mikey1969: coeyagi: cman: Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?

You know that by getting said contract, which they can't in most states, they can get benefits that you can get?  It's almost like you think they're lesser people.

Why do you hate them, bigot?

Actually, I think when he's saying "your" church, he's pointing at the Righties... As in, if they don't want to allow gays to marry in their church, that's fine, let 'em keep their "sanctity of marriage", but when it comes to the part the government is actually involved in, why do the Righties care who enters into that contract?

Of course, I could be readin it wrong.


No I misread it.  Mea culpa.  I guess that's what happens when a Farker supports the party of Rape, Homophobia, and Theofascism, I kinda got assume that it's a package deal since there is so much wrong in the GOP I can only assume that you support all of it because so many planks of their platform by themselves should be enough to drive sane people away.
 
2013-03-04 05:07:08 PM  
Given how strong the polling numbers are on this, especially for young voters -- including young GOP voters -- it's really mind-blowing that they just don't do a 180 on this to get ahead of it. A lot of the senior citizen primary voter's they're worried about are going to be dead in 4 and 6 years.
 
2013-03-04 05:10:33 PM  

coeyagi: No I misread it.  Mea culpa.  I guess that's what happens when a Farker supports the party of Rape, Homophobia, and Theofascism, I kinda got assume that it's a package deal since there is so much wrong in the GOP I can only assume that you support all of it because so many planks of their platform by themselves should be enough to drive sane people away.


He's mentioned before that the only reason why he's no longer a homophobe is because his sister came out. You know, "The only moral abortion is my abortion" syndrome. So, yeah, you're not exactly wrong. :P
 
2013-03-04 05:10:38 PM  
Because the only reason to get married is because you got a gal accidentally pregnant?

That says a damn lot about the folks who put this particular line of thought together...
 
2013-03-04 05:10:59 PM  

xaldin: Well being gay is a genetic dead end. That said though there isn't any real reason to deny them same status as anyone else as they can still contribute as much or more than anyone else while they're around. The same reason we don't discriminate against cripples or any other birth defective people is that while some never contribute anything positive others can advance us considerably.


Having a certain number of nonreproductive individuals in a croup can be an adaptive trait. Just look at bees. A tiny minority of bee species have a set of genetic mutations that, among other things, render almost all individuals sterile. Yet these apparently doomed species account for a huge majority of bee individuals that exist.
 
2013-03-04 05:11:10 PM  

kid_icarus: Since when has bearing children ever factored into legal marriage for anyone?


Ever hear of a "shotgun wedding"?

/Not that that makes this any less dumb.
 
2013-03-04 05:14:17 PM  
Keep diggin', guys. You've lost the majority for at least a generation already.
 
2013-03-04 05:15:28 PM  

alienated: In other news, SE Cupp has pulled out of cpac

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/se-cupp-on-cpac-gay-right_n _2 806373.html  . So, not all of the gop are completely clueless


I want to pull out of S.E. Cupp.......... but not immediately.
 
2013-03-04 05:18:38 PM  
I would be fine with stripping back marriage privileges to only couples supporting dependent children, actually.

But yeah, so long as shiat like visitation rights, property sharing, tax bracketing, and so on are tied to the institution this argument doesn't really hold up.
 
2013-03-04 05:20:30 PM  

Jim_Callahan: I would be fine with stripping back marriage privileges to only couples supporting dependent children, actually.


Wut?
 
2013-03-04 05:29:37 PM  

netizencain: My dad forward me a note similar to this.... it basically said that gay marriage does not make the country any better or help our society as it doesn't promote anything 'healthy'.


Marriage isn't healthy? How did your mom respond to that?
 
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