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(Yahoo)   Just when you think the GOP can't any more Derp to the gay marriage bonfire: "Gay couples cannot become accidentally pregnant and thus do not need access to marriage"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 235
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2013-03-04 03:14:51 PM
So the purpose of marriage is to be forced to spend a lifetime with someone just because you accidentally a whole babby?
 
2013-03-04 03:17:24 PM
I'm sure that makes their children feel so good about themselves.
 
2013-03-04 03:18:47 PM
My dad forward me a note similar to this.... it basically said that gay marriage does not make the country any better or help our society as it doesn't promote anything 'healthy'.
 
2013-03-04 03:23:07 PM
I hope that lawyer is getting paid handsomely for his big bucket of I-got-nothin'.
 
2013-03-04 03:25:58 PM
This is how stupid you sound when you attempt to defend the indefensible.
 
2013-03-04 03:27:32 PM
WE GOT NUTHIN' !
 
2013-03-04 03:29:02 PM
www.examiner.com

"No, but God knows we keep trying."
 
2013-03-04 03:29:54 PM

Gulper Eel: I hope that lawyer is getting paid handsomely for his big bucket of I-got-nothin'.


Apparently he was citing a judge, who... Well, is as stupid as a brick.
 
2013-03-04 03:30:10 PM
Sounds to me like he's arguing that straight couples need access to safe and affordable abortions.
 
2013-03-04 03:33:46 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Sounds to me like he's arguing that straight couples need access to safe and affordable abortions.


It sounds like he's saying divorce should be illegal for couples with children.
 
2013-03-04 03:34:23 PM
Yes Yes Yes! Couples who are unable to have children, whether biologically or old should not be allowed to marry. They cannot form stable family units or naturally produce offspring.

"Only a man and a woman can beget a child together without advance planning, which means that opposite-sex couples have a unique tendency to produce unplanned and unintended offspring,"

"...the state's interest in responsible procreation and childrearing.


Doesn't sound like very responsible procreation to me
 
2013-03-04 03:35:46 PM
#9 is the WINNAR!!!

Well done, Eddie Adams... well done!
 
2013-03-04 03:42:11 PM
Y'all know my position on this is that the government shouldn't recognize anybody's marriage, but the accidental pregnancy is the one argument I can't disagree with in favor of marriage.
Science shows us that married couples do a better job of raising kids.  Probably a result of the fact that they don't want to put the kid through a divorce, so wait until he's out of the house.  So, giving people who have kids a financial incentive to get married is a good thing.

That said, there's no reason some dumbass who finds herself pregnant and unmarried couldn't decide to shotgun marry another woman as a means of attaining that stability.  Gets a little more convoluted for gay men, but could still feasibly happen.
 
2013-03-04 03:42:37 PM
My reaction now almost every time a member of the GOP speaks:
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2013-03-04 03:42:58 PM
Today's GOP, ladies and gentlemen! Let's give them a laurel and hardy handshake for being able to tie their own shoes.
 
2013-03-04 03:43:19 PM
so marry your rapist!
 
2013-03-04 03:43:41 PM
There is nothing wrong with being gay.  Get over it.
 
2013-03-04 03:43:55 PM
Lesbian couples could become accidentally pregnant. Though it might have to be a pretty bizarre accident.
 
2013-03-04 03:44:28 PM
"Only a man and a woman can beget a child together without advance planning, which means that opposite-sex couples have a unique tendency to produce unplanned and unintended offspring,"

"And lo, man lay with women, knowing her, and they beget a child."

"beget"? Really?
 
2013-03-04 03:44:29 PM
On a similar note, what can I do to get these idiots to pay me money, since neither intelligence nor experience in Law seems necessary.
 
2013-03-04 03:44:35 PM
I'm always a little confused on how their arguments against gay marriage invoke the "children" angle so much. Since when has bearing children ever factored into legal marriage for  anyone?I have a female friend who lost her ability to bear children when she was very young. Should she similarly be banned from marrying?
 
2013-03-04 03:44:53 PM
My jaw literally dropped.

I shouldn't be surprised...but I was.

Assholes.
 
2013-03-04 03:45:01 PM
Surprise preggered, the only reason a devout Christian Republican ever gets married.
 
2013-03-04 03:45:04 PM
"A people should know when they're conquered." -Quintus

Seriously, you guys need to stop.  I almost feel bad for you.  But that hole you're digging, it cannot possibley get any bigger.
 
2013-03-04 03:45:31 PM

Endive Wombat: My reaction now almost every time a member of the GOP speaks:
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Seriously.  I'm not sure which is worse -- that there are people that thing up these sorts of things to say or that there are many many more people that will lap it up and vote straight ticket R next time around because they think attitudes like this are normal and should be encouraged.
 
2013-03-04 03:46:31 PM

Wyalt Derp: Lesbian couples could become accidentally pregnant. Though it might have to be a pretty bizarre accident.


Splooge grenade!
 
2013-03-04 03:46:31 PM
Clement added in his brief that the government has a legitimate interest in solely recognizing marriages between men and women because it encourages them to form stable family units.

Party of Small Government, folks!
 
2013-03-04 03:46:55 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Sounds to me like he's arguing that straight couples need access to safe and affordable abortions.


And that post-menopausal women can't marry, as well as any man for whom Viagra/Cialis/Levitra don't work (or they're already on BP/heart meds and so can't take them). And that infertile women (genetic or hysterectomied) and men can't get married.

Basically, it's like he's never critically thought about the position he's now arguing as a matter of law - most of us abandoned that position the first time someone asked "What about Grandma? Is she not allowed to find a new love in her 70s?"

// for me, that time was 1996, and I was 14 years old
 
2013-03-04 03:46:57 PM
about as cogent as Scalia's broccoli logic
 
2013-03-04 03:47:14 PM

serial_crusher: Y'all know my position on this is that the government shouldn't recognize anybody's marriage,


But amazingly people like you only seem to bring this up when it's about gays marrying. What a surprise.

Hey I got an idea how about YOU not marry anyone and stop wanting to force everyone else to live by your rules?
 
2013-03-04 03:47:46 PM
Uh, don't good little Christians not have sex before marriage? Accidental pregnancy that results in a couple having to get married shouldn't even be an issue.
 
2013-03-04 03:48:21 PM

Endive Wombat: My reaction now almost every time a member of the GOP speaks:
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You can also use that as the default reaction of GOPers when you make a point that destroys their argument.  So it goes both ways.
 
2013-03-04 03:48:34 PM
Hey Republicans!

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

We don't care that your God supposedly hates gays.
 
2013-03-04 03:48:52 PM
Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?
 
2013-03-04 03:50:33 PM
This again?

"So what about straight infertile couples?" is always the next question, to which the fundie will state that that is different, because they aren't gay.
 
2013-03-04 03:50:51 PM

LarryDan43: Surprise preggered, the only reason a devout Christian Republican ever gets married.



F'in this. Worked for Levi and Bristol. Oh wait...
 
2013-03-04 03:50:57 PM

Lord_Baull: On a similar note, what can I do to get these idiots to pay me money, since neither intelligence nor experience in Law seems necessary.


Write a book.

Some right-wing magazine/website will buy a few dozen pallets of copies of the book to give to new subscribers and you'll be on the New York Times best-sellers list for a week or two.
 
2013-03-04 03:50:57 PM

serial_crusher: Science shows us that married couples do a better job of raising kids.


ok, can you show your work please?
 
2013-03-04 03:51:00 PM
kid_icarus: I'm always a little confused on how their arguments against gay marriage invoke the "children" angle so much. Since when has bearing children ever factored into legal marriage for  anyone?I have a female friend who lost her ability to bear children when she was very young. Should she similarly be banned from marrying?

I've known people, up here in Ontario, for whom the answer would be a reluctant yes, weighted by a occasional "well, God might provide a miracle, so I guess it's ok?"
 
2013-03-04 03:51:29 PM
kid_icarus: I'm always a little confused on how their arguments against gay marriage invoke the "children" angle so much. Since when has bearing children ever factored into legal marriage for  anyone?I have a female friend who lost her ability to bear children when she was very young. Should she similarly be banned from marrying?

It's because they just don't like gays, but they know they can't say they so they come up with a reason. Right if that was the actual reason they should also try to ban everyone who can't have kids from getting married but they don't care about others, just gays.
 
2013-03-04 03:51:36 PM
Coupled with the FACT that fetuses are only people until corporate(i.e. religious institute) money is involved, and you have an airtight case.
 
2013-03-04 03:51:38 PM
So let's mandate fertility tests once a year, and those who fail don't get to marry or if already married are forced to divorce if they don't have biological minor children.

/just taking this derp to its logical conclusion
 
2013-03-04 03:52:25 PM
The remarks from the Yahoo! commentariat would have been totally different even 3-5 years ago. Amazing.
 
2013-03-04 03:52:51 PM
We need new words beyond "herp" and "derp" to describe things like this.  This goes well beyond the normal, run of the mill derp we've grown to expect.  This sullies the good name of derp.
 
2013-03-04 03:53:28 PM
Clement added in his brief to the Supreme Court arguing to uphold that law that the government has a legitimate interest in solely recognizing marriages between men and women because it encourages them to form stable family units.

Perhaps he should explain why recognizing marriages between same sex couples would DIScourge men and women from forming stable family units?
 
2013-03-04 03:53:29 PM

HotWingConspiracy: This again?

"So what about straight infertile couples?" is always the next question, to which the fundie will state that that is different, because they aren't gay.


That would be and my wife.  Although we weren't necessarily "infertile", we just lost 2 babies around the 3 month mark. two separate times.   We gave up after that, very hard on the heart and mind.  We are both over 40 now and don't plan on trying again.  Guess we should nullify our marriage then.
 
2013-03-04 03:53:38 PM
so people who cannot conceive should not be allowed to marry?

older couples beyond child bearing age should not be allowed to marry?

/I'll wait while the GOP study it out
 
2013-03-04 03:53:39 PM
So because homosexuals can not have children w/o someone interfering with the way god has arranged things, it means that gays can't marry. That's just *so* smart and original. I bet no one has tried that line of argument before becuase otherwise we would have closed this debate by now...

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.
-Leon Bazil, Judge (Loving v. Virigina)
 
2013-03-04 03:54:35 PM

cman: Its a friggin contract, guys. You dont have to have the wedding in your damn church. Why does it matter to you when two people wish to enter into a contract deal?




Because if we let gays enter into a social contract, it's like saying they are people.

Also it's a fantastic wedge issue to get the rubes all fired up!
 
2013-03-04 03:55:21 PM

Rwa2play: Endive Wombat: My reaction now almost every time a member of the GOP speaks:
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You can also use that as the default reaction of GOPers when you make a point that destroys their argument.  So it goes both ways.



Point of Order! GOPers don't admit their wrong.
 
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