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2013-03-04 05:01:13 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I'd view this one as an easy win for Obama.  The law pisses of a bunch of people and only benefits a few big corporations.


Well except his has no legislative power and I believe the FCC panel is made up of appointees from past administrations. So it's not like he really has the power to do that much about it on his own.
 
2013-03-04 05:06:01 PM  

vudukungfu: MrEricSir: if you don't understand why loans exist or why people take them out

Hey, I'll borrow money from a bank.
they are FDIC insured.
Fly by night telecom?
No way


FDIC insurance... on a loan? Riiiiight....
 
2013-03-04 05:06:05 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: cman: kpaxoid: OK.

Can we add to that making it illegal to be forced to buy 300 cable channels when you watch only 2?

No

Please no

If the government gets involved in regulation of cable networks in a complex fashion we will see FCC obscenity rules apply to these stations. Now, I dont know about you, but I really appreciate the beauty of a woman's breasts. That kind of shiat goes bye-bye

The even bigger issue would be that the prices would likely go up for the same packages that most people have now, and channel diversity would suffer.  The big draw channels subsidize the lesser viewed ones at the moment, and if people have the option to opt-out, a lot of the niche channels could go away.

Plus, the really popular channels would end up being a lot more expensive anyway.  If they did go ala carte it wouldn't be a '$5 per month per channel' type of model.  ESPN, TNT, USA, etc would likely draw larger prices making any actual savings pretty minimal.


Well, then it would appear that the provider has an incentive to throw a lot of channels in for free or for a token amount then, don't they? And, let's be honest...it's not the channel, but the company that owns the channel that sets the price. Soon, there will be an ESPN/ABC price, an NBC/Universal price, etc.
 
2013-03-04 05:11:48 PM  
shocked government pays attention to petitions. first time i've read of such. hooray!
 
2013-03-04 05:13:20 PM  
dv-ous:The Library of Congress? I didn't realize they had legislative or regulatory authority.

When they say "shush" you shush.
 
2013-03-04 05:14:55 PM  
It is cool, all else being equal, that the White House has made a solid statement of position on this. Even if it adds up to nothing it's still an actual, clear statement on the side of... you know, human beings instead of predatory legal fictions. For once.
 
2013-03-04 05:16:32 PM  
www.networkworld.com

'Yo, Obama...legalize it'
 
2013-03-04 05:18:16 PM  
obomgo just want's us to lavish it with praise while it destroys our country!
 
2013-03-04 05:20:24 PM  
Oh no, niche channels will go away.  Good.  Let them and their programming go to the internet where they belong.
 
2013-03-04 05:20:43 PM  

RexTalionis: GAT_00: show me: Wow, now let's hope that this has some teeth and doesn't take 2 more years to implement.

Well, it's the President supporting deregulation, so it has an approximately zero percent chance of getting through the House.

I don't think it's so much deregulation as that it'll be a very narrow DMCA exemption for device unlocking.

Personally, I think the Copyright Office was doing some goofy gas when it issued its revised DMCA exemptions. What is the logic for making rooting and jailbreaking a phone perfectly legal for phones (i.e. exempt from DMCA), but illegal for tablets (i.e. not exempt from the DMCA) while simultaneously making it illegal to unlock your phone for different carriers?

It's this bizarre hodgepodge of exemptions that simply makes no sense whatsoever.


The idiocy of it is that they're approaching it from the DMCA perspective - the anti-circumvention bits of the law, specifically.  So, it comes down to what the manufacturer/provider has specifically DRM-locked and what they haven't.  On phones, the network is DRM-locked, but root is not (supposedly).  On tablets, it's all DRM-locked, so therefore it's all illegal.

The reason they changed their interpretation (at least, this is my understanding) is that there's now federal caselaw that says when you buy a device with DRM-locked software, you're actually licensing the software instead of purchasing it, so now you don't have first-sale to protect you.
 
2013-03-04 05:22:03 PM  
img29.imageshack.us

/for the moment.
//Also, for the Death Star reply.
 
2013-03-04 05:23:11 PM  

Rhypskallion: Can we please lock stolen cellphones?   Other countries do this, which means other countries don't have a market for stolen cellphones.   We have the technology, and the ability--it's built into the systems.    However, our wireless providers would rather sign a new subscriber than shut down a stolen phone, and that is ridiculous.


You may not have looked into this recently, but it's already happening. AT&T and Verizon are now actively blocking stolen phones by the IMEI's. I think T-Mobile, too. Google around a bit and you'll find it.
Ironically, it's because congress finally figured out what you said... other countries have been doing it for a while, and threatened to start making laws about it.
 
2013-03-04 05:35:26 PM  

RexTalionis: kpaxoid: OK.

Can we add to that making it illegal to be forced to buy 300 cable channels when you watch only 2?

Cablevision is suing Viacom in court over that right now. Stay tuned.


What channels do I have to pay for to stay tuned?
 
2013-03-04 05:35:55 PM  
In Canada its illegal not to unlock phones. You people are nuts. Regulatory capture isn't rife, it's absolute in the US.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-04 05:36:26 PM  
Cool, it will become completely legal.

/not like it ever would stop me from unlocking/jailbreaking/rooting phones
 
2013-03-04 05:36:52 PM  
Wow...Fark broke a story before Reddit.  I guess there's a first time for everything...
 
2013-03-04 05:45:40 PM  

kpaxoid: OK.

Can we add to that making it illegal to be forced to buy 300 cable channels when you watch only 2?


Nobody's forcing you to buy any cable channels. At least I hope not!
 
2013-03-04 05:46:28 PM  

vudukungfu: How the fark do you think the farking internet was invented?


Al Gore?
 
2013-03-04 05:46:37 PM  
Make it legal.
Tax it.
Use the funds to provide people with treatment.
 
2013-03-04 05:50:38 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: if people have the option to opt-out, a lot of the niche channels could go away.


KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY QVC! ALL SIX CHANNELS OF IT!
 
2013-03-04 05:51:04 PM  

Masterstuff: Some 'Splainin' To Do: kpaxoid: OK.

Can we add to that making it illegal to be forced to buy 300 cable channels when you watch only 2?

I'm really not a fan of a la carte programming.  Every proposal I've seen seems guaranteed to raise prices, to offset the losses of dropping package models, and to kill any hope of niche programming.

So the only alternative is bend over, grab your ankles, grit your teeth and think about How I Met Your Mother reruns.


That doesn't change the very real possibility that al a carte will end up causing more problems for consumers for exactly the reasons that I listed. It's certainly true that very, very few people would see their rates go  downif al a carte was required. Sure you can buy just the five stations that you want, but expect to pay at or above the package rate for the privilege.

But even more to the point, maybe you could complain about ankle grabbing in the bad old days where cable monopolies where the only game in town, before there was a real Internet. These days? Not so much. If cable package plans piss you off, there are non-cable options like Netflix or more, ahem, gray market alternatives, if you are really desperate for current programming.
 
2013-03-04 05:56:51 PM  

onyxruby: There's a hole in there response big enough to drive a truck through. They will only support unlocking /if/ your phone is paid for and off contract. For most people that means your two year old phone that has seen better days and that you don't want to use anymore. The majority of people with a smartphone are going to gain nothing from this at all.

Unless you pay cash for the full price of your phone up front (typically $5-$600 for a smart phone) you won't gain from this at all. Even if you do, nothing says that the carrier can't play games by claiming your phone is unsupported or some other such thing. This is nothing more than political hot air, move along, move along.


Seems to me like the carriers will just reduce or eliminate the subsidies for phones. The increased competition may end up making them cheaper but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
2013-03-04 06:00:37 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: In Canada its illegal not to unlock phones. You people are nuts. Regulatory capture isn't rife, it's absolute in the US.


Yes, but you are still Canada.
 
2013-03-04 06:04:12 PM  

crabsno termites: TuteTibiImperes: if people have the option to opt-out, a lot of the niche channels could go away.

KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY QVC! ALL SIX CHANNELS OF IT!


QVC, unfortunately, would likely end up surviving, and likely be free.  However, I'd worry about Speed, History, Game Show Network, AMC, SyFy, etc (not that I watch all of those, but many don't have mass appeal).  Or, in a bid to survive, the channels will go full-retard and start programming an even more endless lineup of cheap-to-produce brain-sapping reality shows.
 
2013-03-04 06:12:41 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: the channels will go went full-retard many years ago

Get with the times

 
2013-03-04 06:20:36 PM  
Telcos are just flat out moronic.

My father and I wanted to switch me back to Verizon this weekend to take advantage of a special offer that would have cut back on the bill. Couldn't do it because of contract restrictions, even though doing so would have sacrificed a $10/mo dumbphone line for a $40+/mo smartphone line. Verizon would have come out on top and they still wouldn't let us.

Make CDMA networks and phone contracts illegal. They're hurting competition. I'm tired of every dick in the EU getting better smartphone choices when that continent has done jack shiat to develop those sorts of devices.
 
2013-03-04 06:22:11 PM  

Rhypskallion: Can we please lock stolen cellphones?   Other countries do this, which means other countries don't have a market for stolen cellphones.   We have the technology, and the ability--it's built into the systems.    However, our wireless providers would rather sign a new subscriber than shut down a stolen phone, and that is ridiculous.


Metro PCS is the big one. They take a lot of stolen phones on as subscribers. We have databases and everything showing it.
 
2013-03-04 06:23:13 PM  

Deucednuisance: RexTalionis: Cablevision is suing Viacom in court over that right now. Stay tuned.

And these guys support that suit very strongly.

http://www.americancable.org/

I'll be at their "Summit" next week, I imagine there will be a lot of talk about it.  I can chime in about that if there's ever a relevant thread, later.


Hey, would love to hear any insights out of that.
 
2013-03-04 06:24:09 PM  

Marine1: Telcos are just flat out moronic.

My father and I wanted to switch me back to Verizon this weekend to take advantage of a special offer that would have cut back on the bill. Couldn't do it because of contract restrictions, even though doing so would have sacrificed a $10/mo dumbphone line for a $40+/mo smartphone line. Verizon would have come out on top and they still wouldn't let us.

Make CDMA networks and phone contracts illegal. They're hurting competition. I'm tired of every dick in the EU getting better smartphone choices when that continent has done jack shiat to develop those sorts of devices.


My bill with AT&T would be the same whether I paid for my phone in full or if I take the subsidized price with a contract, so I don't mind signing up for another two years every two years to pay $199 or $99 for a phone instead of $500.  Yes, I know there are MVNOs that offer cheaper service, but many of them don't support all of the features that you get with the flagship network contract like visual voicemail, or they have much more limited 4G access or other gotchas.
 
2013-03-04 06:25:56 PM  

bmihura: kpaxoid: OK.

Can we add to that making it illegal to be forced to buy 300 cable channels when you watch only 2?

Nobody's forcing you to buy any cable channels. At least I hope not!


The last time I inquired about getting cable service I asked about getting the SciFi channel (yes, that long ago).  They said it was only available in a premium package that included HBO, ESPN, etc.  I only wanted basic cable and SciFi, I did not want HBO or ESPN.  So I told them to forget it.  So technically they weren't forcing me to buy any channels.  But they didn't offer the one channel I wished without being forced to buy a bunch of crap I was not interested in paying for.
 
2013-03-04 06:27:53 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Marine1: Telcos are just flat out moronic.

My father and I wanted to switch me back to Verizon this weekend to take advantage of a special offer that would have cut back on the bill. Couldn't do it because of contract restrictions, even though doing so would have sacrificed a $10/mo dumbphone line for a $40+/mo smartphone line. Verizon would have come out on top and they still wouldn't let us.

Make CDMA networks and phone contracts illegal. They're hurting competition. I'm tired of every dick in the EU getting better smartphone choices when that continent has done jack shiat to develop those sorts of devices.

My bill with AT&T would be the same whether I paid for my phone in full or if I take the subsidized price with a contract, so I don't mind signing up for another two years every two years to pay $199 or $99 for a phone instead of $500.  Yes, I know there are MVNOs that offer cheaper service, but many of them don't support all of the features that you get with the flagship network contract like visual voicemail, or they have much more limited 4G access or other gotchas.


They have all of the extras in other countries, contract-free. They've found a way to make money doing it... so much, in fact, that three of the four major American telcos are either partly owned or wholly owned by foreign companies in the same field (Deutsche Telekom = T-Mobile, Vodafone = 45% of Verizon, Softbank = potentially 70% of Sprint PCS).
It's time to make some changes. I usually don't like government intervention, but... tough.
 
2013-03-04 06:30:42 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: crabsno termites: TuteTibiImperes: if people have the option to opt-out, a lot of the niche channels could go away.

KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY QVC! ALL SIX CHANNELS OF IT!

QVC, unfortunately, would likely end up surviving, and likely be free.  However, I'd worry about Speed, History, Game Show Network, AMC, SyFy, etc (not that I watch all of those, but many don't have mass appeal).  Or, in a bid to survive, the channels will go full-retard and start programming an even more endless lineup of cheap-to-produce brain-sapping reality shows.


All of these channels would do better as streaming over a network vs a cable slot.  Ala carte will likely mean the death of niche channels - over cable tv - all the more reason to cut the cord as they say.

I cut it two years ago, switched to a Roku and I don't miss it one bit.  Some shows are hard to come by though because of contractual compensation issues.  These issues would get straightened out much faster if ala carte becomes a reality.

Cable TV is destined to become the realm of reality tv and "i don't care what's on" kind of viewing.  Everything else should move to streaming.
 
2013-03-04 06:32:12 PM  

gameshowhost: Why don't we do something really noteworthy and nuke CDMA

/or whatever, so we end up with A STANDARD
//ONE.
///standard. one.


LTE was supposed to be that standard... The marriage of the best parts of CDMA and GSM into one beautiful thing. Then the carriers got a hold of it.
 
2013-03-04 06:34:52 PM  

MrEricSir: vudukungfu: MrEricSir: if you don't understand why loans exist or why people take them out

Hey, I'll borrow money from a bank.
they are FDIC insured.
Fly by night telecom?
No way

FDIC insurance... on a loan? Riiiiight....


Look. If a hooker isn't insisting on condoms every single time, don't let her make you and egg salad sandwich from scratch.
 
2013-03-04 06:35:48 PM  
It's like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Lenin, and Benghazi all over again! Truly Owebama is history's greatest monster.
 
2013-03-04 06:39:22 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: TuteTibiImperes: crabsno termites: TuteTibiImperes: if people have the option to opt-out, a lot of the niche channels could go away.

KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY QVC! ALL SIX CHANNELS OF IT!

QVC, unfortunately, would likely end up surviving, and likely be free.  However, I'd worry about Speed, History, Game Show Network, AMC, SyFy, etc (not that I watch all of those, but many don't have mass appeal).  Or, in a bid to survive, the channels will go full-retard and start programming an even more endless lineup of cheap-to-produce brain-sapping reality shows.

All of these channels would do better as streaming over a network vs a cable slot.  Ala carte will likely mean the death of niche channels - over cable tv - all the more reason to cut the cord as they say.

I cut it two years ago, switched to a Roku and I don't miss it one bit.  Some shows are hard to come by though because of contractual compensation issues.  These issues would get straightened out much faster if ala carte becomes a reality.

Cable TV is destined to become the realm of reality tv and "i don't care what's on" kind of viewing.  Everything else should move to streaming.


I like the idea of streaming, but ISPs would have to give up on broadband caps to make it work as a primary viewing solution (and since most ISPs are also the cable company, they have little incentive to do that...).  I have Dish, and to get a lot of the out-of-market sports channels I want (I live in SEC land, but follow CAA Football/Basketball), I have to have what is pretty much the top tier they offer.  At the end of the day even though I don't watch the vast majority of the channels I have, I like having access to them because if something comes on that I do want to watch on one of them, I can.  I could probably save a bunch just by buying the games I want to see via the websites/streaming-providers of the schools hosting the games and just getting the rest of what I want from iTunes, Amazon and Netflix, but paying per show would make me think to much about whether something was worth watching or not, and I'd probably err on the side of saving the money in most cases and not expose myself to a lot of things I've ended up liking.
 
2013-03-04 06:47:03 PM  

tgambitg: gameshowhost: Why don't we do something really noteworthy and nuke CDMA

/or whatever, so we end up with A STANDARD
//ONE.
///standard. one.

LTE was supposed to be that standard... The marriage of the best parts of CDMA and GSM into one beautiful thing. Then the carriers got a hold of it.


It should still be possible to make a universal LTE phone, but you'd need a quadband radio covering 700/1700/1900/2100mhz just to cover the spectrum of all of the US carriers.  Throw in other countries using 1500/1800/2600 and other frequency ranges and a truly universal world phone ends up being a lot more complicated than it should really have to be.  Plus, I don't think that all of the US carriers are even doing voice over LTE yet.
 
2013-03-04 06:50:41 PM  
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2013-03-04 06:52:53 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: TheDirtyNacho: TuteTibiImperes: crabsno termites: TuteTibiImperes: if people have the option to opt-out, a lot of the niche channels could go away.

KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY QVC! ALL SIX CHANNELS OF IT!

QVC, unfortunately, would likely end up surviving, and likely be free.  However, I'd worry about Speed, History, Game Show Network, AMC, SyFy, etc (not that I watch all of those, but many don't have mass appeal).  Or, in a bid to survive, the channels will go full-retard and start programming an even more endless lineup of cheap-to-produce brain-sapping reality shows.

All of these channels would do better as streaming over a network vs a cable slot.  Ala carte will likely mean the death of niche channels - over cable tv - all the more reason to cut the cord as they say.

I cut it two years ago, switched to a Roku and I don't miss it one bit.  Some shows are hard to come by though because of contractual compensation issues.  These issues would get straightened out much faster if ala carte becomes a reality.

Cable TV is destined to become the realm of reality tv and "i don't care what's on" kind of viewing.  Everything else should move to streaming.

I like the idea of streaming, but ISPs would have to give up on broadband caps to make it work as a primary viewing solution (and since most ISPs are also the cable company, they have little incentive to do that...).  I have Dish, and to get a lot of the out-of-market sports channels I want (I live in SEC land, but follow CAA Football/Basketball), I have to have what is pretty much the top tier they offer.  At the end of the day even though I don't watch the vast majority of the channels I have, I like having access to them because if something comes on that I do want to watch on one of them, I can.  I could probably save a bunch just by buying the games I want to see via the websites/streaming-providers of the schools hosting the games and just getting the rest of what I want from iTunes, Amazon and Netflix, but paying p ...



I'm not sure we have broadband caps, or if we do, they're high enough that typical viewing patterns don't touch them.  Most of the money on a cable bill actually goes right back out to the channel owners.

There's still much work to be done in streaming.  It would behoove providers like Amazon to give free show trials - watch the first episode, if you like it? Then pay for the rest of the season.  This still comes out far less costly than paying a $120+ cable bill every month.  There may well be some kind of legal or contractual reason why they don't do this more.

There also still isn't much in the way of standard compensation contracts with regards to streaming, which is why bizarre things like some shows on Hulu can be watched on a computer, but not a device like a Roku, even though you could just hook your laptop up to a TV.  Netflix seems to have avoided this somehow.

I hope with a la carte becoming a reality these issues will get resolved faster.  The present system of cable tv content distribution is not a well functioning or efficient market.
 
2013-03-04 06:53:32 PM  
Corvus: cman: Will Obama spend political capital on such an issue? I am wondering if this is only a glorified press release.

I knew it wouldn't take long for the "Obama is saying something I agree with? I AM OUTRAGED AT HIM!!" posts.

I am sorry for my extreme burst of anger. I know I lost my cool, but its just that Obama is destroying our country. I need to at every opportunity biatch about how black he is.

/If you took my comment as outrage then you need to brush up on your reading comprehension
 
2013-03-04 06:54:14 PM  

cman: Corvus: cman: Will Obama spend political capital on such an issue? I am wondering if this is only a glorified press release.

I knew it wouldn't take long for the "Obama is saying something I agree with? I AM OUTRAGED AT HIM!!" posts.


I am sorry for my extreme burst of anger. I know I lost my cool, but its just that Obama is destroying our country. I need to at every opportunity biatch about how black he is.

/If you took my comment as outrage then you need to brush up on your reading comprehension
//AND Fixt. Damn HTML box keeps screwing my text up
 
2013-03-04 06:56:31 PM  
Now everyone will want a White House petition.
 
2013-03-04 07:05:49 PM  

RexTalionis: GAT_00: show me: Wow, now let's hope that this has some teeth and doesn't take 2 more years to implement.

Well, it's the President supporting deregulation, so it has an approximately zero percent chance of getting through the House.

I don't think it's so much deregulation as that it'll be a very narrow DMCA exemption for device unlocking.

Personally, I think the Copyright Office was doing some goofy gas when it issued its revised DMCA exemptions. What is the logic for making rooting and jailbreaking a phone perfectly legal for phones (i.e. exempt from DMCA), but illegal for tablets (i.e. not exempt from the DMCA) while simultaneously making it illegal to unlock your phone for different carriers?

It's this bizarre hodgepodge of exemptions that simply makes no sense whatsoever.


I testified at a DMCA exemption hearing once. The Copyright Office has less of a grasp on technology than the average 12-year-old.
 
2013-03-04 07:14:48 PM  

vudukungfu: How the fark do you think the farking internet was invented?


A a truck carrying tubes crashed on Al Gore's lawn.
 
2013-03-04 07:16:47 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Plus, I don't think that all of the US carriers are even doing voice over LTE yet.


That is correct.  Most of the carriers are still using their respective 3G networks for voice, and are unlikely to change until either they need that spectrum for something else, or (more likely) the 3G equipment becomes obsolete and too expensive to maintain.

I could see CDMA going away within a few generations if a few major telecom equipment manufacturers (e.g. Cisco, Huawei)  decided to stop producing CDMA equipment, but GSM usage is still growing faster than LTE (especially in Africa), so I doubt it's going to go away any time soon.
 
2013-03-04 07:35:13 PM  

vudukungfu: MrEricSir: If you take out a loan with your cell phone company like most people, they're going to lock the phone to make sure you keep paying

Why would you do that?

never mind, I do tech support for consumers who farked up.
People aren't too bright.

"taking out a load with a cell phone company. . . . "
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahha*gasp*ahhahahahahahaha h ahahahahahahahahaha

/Doesn't own one.
/Not even a itterbug.
//If I can't see what is in it and know there is no tracing device, I'm not carrying it.

GPS + Drones = Not good.


The tin foil can be found on aisle 12.

I suggest heavey duty in your case.
 
2013-03-04 07:36:20 PM  

Theaetetus: DicksWii: How about game consoles? PS3s are going to start hitting the pawn shops for a lot cheaper with the release of the PS4. I'd like to set up some linux on a dozen or two running together.

Download the v3.15 or earlier firmware and you're good to go. You won't be able to connect to the PSN, but heck, you're building a linux cluster so why would you?


Yeah, because the machine will *totally* accept and load up that old firmware!

Oh wait, no it won't. It'll reject anything older than the firmware its on, as soon as you go past that level (and all ps3s for sale now are past that) you're stuck unless you have a hardware flasher.
 
2013-03-04 07:36:28 PM  

MrEricSir: vudukungfu: If I buy a computer or gadget or tool from you, You no longer get to tell me what to do with it.

If you buy a phone outright, it's not going to be locked. If you take out a loan with your cell phone company like most people, they're going to lock the phone to make sure you keep paying.

Car loans often work the same way if you have poor credit. The bank can flip a switch if you miss to many lease payments and "your" car won't start anymore.


After the contract is up, my debt to the carrier is paid. After that, it's my phone. My device.

Using your analogy, I would either keep paying the bank or wouldn't be allowed to drive on roads not owned by the bank. Or something.

I don't know. Stupid law... ER...regulation.
 
2013-03-04 07:37:40 PM  
Ah! More time spent on the issues that really matter.
 
2013-03-04 07:37:44 PM  

Gothnet: Yeah, because the machine will *totally* accept and load up that old firmware!


http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/06/qa-flag-downgrade-firmware-3-55-to-3-4 13 -15-tutorial/
 
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