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2013-03-04 01:58:22 PM
6 votes:
Anything medical should be non profit.
2013-03-04 02:24:06 PM
3 votes:
Holy crap, did nobody RTFA? It's not about paying taxes, it's about controlled substance federal tax laws not allowing operating expenses to be deducted from gross income. The rest of the country pays taxes on net profit, but the MMJ industry is required to pay taxes on GROSS profits. This could result in the tax bill being higher than your net profit. Simply outrageous.

Additionally, to address other comments: Yes, it's a weed. And yes, getting it to grow and flower to produce  personal quantity of decent product is easy. But getting efficiently growing commercial quantities of GREAT product is NOT easy, or more correctly, is not cheap. If you can't subtract your costs for space, power, and labor from your gross profits due to some heavy-handed, and out-dated federal tax code, it will not be a for-profit business.

This is not about paying taxes, it is about being able to operate a profitable business.

/Farking, fark..
2013-03-04 04:41:13 PM
2 votes:

Wrencher: Keyser_Soze_Death: I guess no one read TFA, where it talks about a 75% federal tax being at issue.

/tax any business at 75% and it literally becomes a non-profit operation.

Here in Washington, cigarettes are taxed at 90%. There is no shortage of people selling them very profitably.


They wouldn't be if tobacco took less time to air cure.  There's just no way to intelligently talk about this problem without admitting the biggest problem with marijuana is that if it wasn't illegal, it'd be approximately as difficult to be self sufficient with marijuana as it is to be self sufficient with tomatoes.   If you were allowed to stick a couple certified female seedlings from a local nursery into a deer proof tomato cage in your backyard, pretty much the whole country can grow weed by accident.  Some little old lady in Chicago managed to accidentally grow a bush the side of a small duplex off her back porch.  Everything difficult about marijuana cultivation stems from the need for secrecy.
2013-03-04 04:35:31 PM
2 votes:

Rogue Surf: In New Mexico, all dispenseries are non-profit 501C3 corporations.  The issue 90% of Farkers above do not understand is that normal business expenses - including salaries, leases, fuel, electricity and other "normal" expenses that every other corporation in America gets to deduct to get to "net profits" are not allowed so cannabis is taxed on Gross Revenues, which would cause most corporations to go bankrupt or to double prices!  If cannabis were legal, prices should be $25-$50 per Pound, not $10-$15 per gram or $250-$400 per ounce!


Maybe a word problem would help.

Joe Consumer is used to paying 100 dollars a week to pet bunnies.  There's a farm down the road with a lot of bunnies on it, and for 100 bucks, his buddy will watch the gate while he sneaks in and pets bunnies.  The government gets involved.  They let someone open a bunny petting ranch.  They can raise bunnies for 80 dollars a week, of which $40 is payroll.  The government declares that bunnies are rodents, and rabbits are a big problem in Australia, so if you raise bunnies, you have to pay luxury taxes on the product, sales taxes, pay roll taxes, real estate taxes, local taxes, city taxes, and income tax on the money, but you don't get to deduct anything on your taxes, because officially, bunnies aren't real to Americans because we don't like them.

So now you have a choice.  You can either raise bunnies, pay the 80 dollars it takes to raise them, pay all the taxes, pay taxes on your taxes (because you can't deduct your taxes against your taxes, because YOUR taxes are "from bunnies"), and pass that all on to the consumer, who chooses instead to sneak under the gate down the road, because it's 300% cheaper without government interference.

Then the federal government and ignorant people pat themselves on the back because "legalizing dispensaries didn't stop people from selling weed on the streets".
2013-03-04 03:37:04 PM
2 votes:

FloydA: gilgigamesh: FloydA: WTF?  You're saying that if I don't cheat, I'm a hypocrite?

No, I am saying paying taxes on your net profit instead of your gross is not cheating, it's what every business has ever done in the history of taxed businesses.

Yes, and that is my legitimate tax burden.  That's what the law says I should pay, so I pay it.  I don't try to declare myself a 501(c) to get out of what I owe.  If that sounds hypocritical to you, well, I don't know what to say.


In this case, we rewrote the tax law to make sure that marijuana dispensaries could not legally be operated profitably.  Now people want to use the tax code to their maximum benefit because we deliberately wrote the tax to punish them.  Any business is justified in being upset when federal tax code is rewritten in a nonsensical way just to prevent states from overriding federal drug laws, and are justified in restructuring in order to fit into a different part of the tax code without an unjust burden.
2013-03-04 02:08:56 PM
2 votes:
until the fed recognizes marijuana as legal and allows businesses to deduct normal business expenses the MM sector should do what ever it can to minimize it's tax burden.
2013-03-04 02:08:41 PM
2 votes:

GAT_00: FFS, pay your farking taxes you sniveling little farks.


There is an anti-drug runner law called 280E that basically makes it so that they can't deduct anything as a business expense, including salaries.  Their tax bills are often higher than their total profits because of it.  Not only that, but the credit card companies and banks said they couldn't keep their money with them or have credit card transactions, so all of a sudden all of their transactions went cash only.  It's basically the perfect storm of cutting off the tax spigot that they were paying. In any case, the Californian ones are all supposed to be non-profits but they all got shut down by Federal DAs anyway.
2013-03-04 02:05:53 PM
2 votes:
I wonder how many of the people who are complaining about the mj taxation are the same people who said "Legalize it and tax the hell out of it."?
2013-03-04 01:55:02 PM
2 votes:
To avoid taxes, you should move to Somalia.  Taxes are the entry fee that you pay in order to be allowed to participate in civilization.  Pay up or get out.

"Go Galt" if you think that will work, I don't care, good luck to you, but you've either got to pay your share or give up the benefits of living in a civilized society, no ice cream until you finish your vegetables.
2013-03-04 01:50:40 PM
2 votes:
FFS, pay your farking taxes you sniveling little farks.
2013-03-04 10:11:14 PM
1 votes:
Actually you didn't realize that the original push for criminalization was partly due to racism. You are just someone that doesn't understand how our nation (especially in that era) promoted institutional racism. You'd be blind to argue that, just a read a history book. You seem to see that as an attack on you and your whiteness, when all I'm doing is pointing out that our government crafted some of these policies out of racism. Enjoy living in your bubble, because we all know that our government has always treated white people just like everyone else, and anyone that points that out is obviously just a racist.
2013-03-04 08:39:42 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Actually, as divx88 pointed out upthread, it is indeed legal to deduct expenses incurred while running your business, even if that business is illegal. So sayeth SCOTUS in Commissioner v Tellier, where the Supreme Robewearers of the Land said the purpose of the tax law was to tax net income, not punish unlawful behavior. The major problem with 280E is that it says it is NOT legal to do so as it is written to specifically address only one kind of illegal behavior on the federal level, even though it is now legal behavior at the state level.

Apparently the Supreme Dudes and Dudettes, if any 280E litigation makes it to them, are going to have to smack some hands and point to the Commissioner v Tellier ruling that SCOTUS already made.

Interesting.  I was unaware of that ruling.   However, it is not a blanket prohibition of using the tax code to punish illegal activity.  The Court said that if there is to be such a punishment, it must originate in Congress and not the IRS.  Section 280E was enacted by Congress.

It seems unlikely that Congress will keep the prohibition on marijuana while making it easier to profit by selling it.  Section 280E is not going anywhere before MJ is legalized by the feds.


I wouldn't be surprised to see it in front of the Supreme Court in the not too distant future, really. When California gets really agnsty about stuff, well, we tend to put down the tofu burger and wheat grass smoothie and throw tantrums. These tantrums tend to involve the courts. It's kind of the way we are here. Taxing our legal dispensaries right out of existence because they simply cannot afford the taxes and the fees they have to pay to be legal in the first place isn't going to go over too well. The states will argue that SCOTUS never said anything about something that is legal under state law and the feds will argue that it is still "illegal trafficking". So I guess they will have no choice but to revisit the issue, especially now that other states are running with the "blaze me, dudes" thing.

/not a smoker, btw
2013-03-04 04:24:43 PM
1 votes:
In New Mexico, all dispenseries are non-profit 501C3 corporations.  The issue 90% of Farkers above do not understand is that normal business expenses - including salaries, leases, fuel, electricity and other "normal" expenses that every other corporation in America gets to deduct to get to "net profits" are not allowed so cannabis is taxed on Gross Revenues, which would cause most corporations to go bankrupt or to double prices!  If cannabis were legal, prices should be $25-$50 per Pound, not $10-$15 per gram or $250-$400 per ounce!
2013-03-04 04:06:22 PM
1 votes:

Lucidz: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Lucidz: If they are not doing that, then that makes the business owners bad business men.

They're not allowed to do that under the tax law. That's the point of the article.

They aren't allowed to increase the price of the product?????


They're still paying taxes on the gross income, no matter what it is, and they're not permitted under our state laws to sell for profit and to compound the problem, they cannot deduct salaries, or any other operating expenses under the federal tax law. Your argument was that they were bad businessmen for not deducting those things as other businesses do, not about pricing at the retail level. Pricing can vary wildly based on location. This raising of prices in some areas is why we still have illegal grows mucking up state and federal forests and parks. In some areas it really is cheaper (not to mention easier) to buy it from the shifty dude on the corner, who may or may not be Mara Salvatrucha (though I think they're more the weapons specialists in my area) than it is to buy it from a state licensed dispensary.
2013-03-04 03:58:24 PM
1 votes:

FloydA:  If enough people agree that the tax code should be changed, those candidates will win and those policies will be enacted.


That sounds good in theory, but it never works that way in real life.  Colorado has legalized marijuana because ... our state representatives followed the will of the people and passed a legalization law?  Hell no.  It was legalized through a referendum, a direct vote of the people on the issue.  If left to our politicians, there would be no movement on this issue.

If you think elected officials represent voters, you are naive.
2013-03-04 03:58:07 PM
1 votes:

WeenerGord: It was made illegal by the influence of DuPont which wanted to replace hemp rope, used in all ships, with it's new synthetic rope made of dacron fiber


That dacron stuff, they make that out of Oil, right?
They have a processing plant in Dacron, Ohio.

Why doesn't a TV show ever show this truths so the American people will know.
It should be on the history channel.
You would think someone could produce a show that shows all of this profiteering on war by making weed a crime.
Seriously.
Do I need to go over to Boing Boing and shout out for a kickstart on production of such a series?
2013-03-04 03:45:08 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: gilgigamesh: FloydA: WTF?  You're saying that if I don't cheat, I'm a hypocrite?

No, I am saying paying taxes on your net profit instead of your gross is not cheating, it's what every business has ever done in the history of taxed businesses.

Yes, and that is my legitimate tax burden.  That's what the law says I should pay, so I pay it.  I don't try to declare myself a 501(c) to get out of what I owe.  If that sounds hypocritical to you, well, I don't know what to say.


If you try to declare yourself as a 501(c) to avoid paying income taxes, that would be tax fraud. If a business obtains approval of 501(c) status, that is legal (assuming, of course, that after expenses the business does not generate a profit).

If they operate as a nonprofit, they are using a legal method to avoid an onerous, punitive tax which would otherwise make it literally impossible for them to operate.

Now, I should qualify all this by stressing that I seriously doubt the IRS would approve 501(c) status for dispensaries. But if this would actually succeed, it should be applauded. Using this archaic law to punish people operating legal businesses under state law is a violation of the principles of federalism.
2013-03-04 03:44:49 PM
1 votes:

keepitcherry: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Considering the "legal" prices are the same as the street prices, I'd say someone is making a profit whether they're reporting it or not

/someone needs to investigate price fixing in the market

Here in Northern California the "legal" prices are like double the price as the street prices for the same quality.


Where the fark do you live?  In San Francisco (commonly considered NorCal), the street prices are roughly 40-50/3.5grams.    The quality is... well, based mostly on opinion and I won't argue it.  Now, the club prices are set at 15/gram.  The quality is top notch by any standard, and it's consistent.  (this assumes you are buying buds, if you buy edibles or shake or whatever the pricing changes)

I don't know if you are just talking out your ass, or if you are getting ripped off by someone.  In either case, I think it's safe to say that you don't represent the average.
2013-03-04 03:44:10 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: gilgigamesh: FloydA: WTF?  You're saying that if I don't cheat, I'm a hypocrite?

No, I am saying paying taxes on your net profit instead of your gross is not cheating, it's what every business has ever done in the history of taxed businesses.

Yes, and that is my legitimate tax burden.  That's what the law says I should pay, so I pay it.  I don't try to declare myself a 501(c) to get out of what I owe.  If that sounds hypocritical to you, well, I don't know what to say.



Speaking of legitimate tax burden, maybe there would be more support for taxes if they only paid for the good things you mention, and not for bloat and other shiat like the drug war, the TSA, generations of welfare, war profiteering, corporate welfare, tax cuts for the rich, policing the entire world, etc. Everyone else can add to this list of shiat they would rather our now excessive taxes did not have to pay for.
2013-03-04 03:38:19 PM
1 votes:

TheJoe03: vudukungfu: LOLWhut?

The War on Drugs and the massive spike in incarceration rates (both done after the Civil Rights Movement) are considered to be based in institutionally racist policies. For example, white people use and sell drugs at about the same rate as as blacks and Latinos but the incarceration rates for those things are not even close to equal.



Wrong, fool. It was made illegal by the influence of DuPont which wanted to replace hemp rope, used in all ships, with it's new synthetic rope made of dacron fiber. This was tremendously profitable for DuPont as WWII was on the horizon. Then when it was discovered that Dacron stretched in seawater, Hemp For Victory was quickly pushed in the farmers till right after the war then it was back to fark you again.

And Nixon ramped up the drug war, after numerous studies, and testifying to Congress, by the American Medical Association, saying it was harmless, beneficial and should be legal, to get the Vietnam anti-war protesters off his lawn. Both times, pot was criminalized for the benefit of war profiteering.

Whites want legal pot as much as anybody else so take your racism and shove it.
2013-03-04 03:27:16 PM
1 votes:

Lucidz: TrainingWheelsNeeded: Lucidz: Avoid taxes?  Wtf?  I thought part of the reason the red-eyed, dorito munching pot smokers were saying weed should be legalized was to tax it and that it would "solve the defecit"...

Now they're complaining about taxes?  WTH???

Do you want higher priced pot, or to go to prison.  Stoners are never happy.  Jeez.

considering this is about business operating tax and not commercial or sales tax which is were most believe "tax and cut deficit" help would come from I'd say you have no idea what you are blathering about.

So, the business owners are not taking business operational costs into account?  Most businesses, when faced with increased/unexpected/higher operational costs, increase the cost of the product to the end purchaser.

If they are not doing that, then that makes the business owners bad business men.


from earlier in thread: by Treehouse Engineer

Holy crap, did nobody RTFA? It's not about paying taxes, it's about controlled substance federal tax laws not allowing operating expenses to be deducted from gross income. The rest of the country pays taxes on net profit, but the MMJ industry is required to pay taxes on GROSS profits. This could result in the tax bill being higher than your net profit. Simply outrageous.

also see: a law called 280E that basically makes it so that they can't deduct anything as a business expense, including salaries.

Dispensaries have a whole set of tax laws only they are beholden too, beer, liquor, cigarette, pharmaceutical companies don't have these same obligations. seems unfair, huh?
2013-03-04 03:23:37 PM
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: GAT_00: FFS, pay your farking taxes you sniveling little farks.

This.

Jesus Christ, tax-dodging has become our national sport.


If that's the model we want to go with then no business should be able to deduct any operating expenses.
2013-03-04 03:01:13 PM
1 votes:
I love my tax accountant.  He should wear a wizard hat and robe. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_of_illegal_income_in_the_Unite d_ States

Ya, seems pretty dickish.
2013-03-04 02:56:47 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: LOLWhut?


The War on Drugs and the massive spike in incarceration rates (both done after the Civil Rights Movement) are considered to be based in institutionally racist policies. For example, white people use and sell drugs at about the same rate as as blacks and Latinos but the incarceration rates for those things are not even close to equal.
2013-03-04 02:56:20 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: hardinparamedic: vudukungfu: If I can grow farking Asprin in my own back yard, they government should STFU and let me enjoy life with out any headaches.

Nice to know that 80 years later, policies steeped in Racism and White Supremacy still permeate through the government in our drug policy.

LOLWhut?


Uh, you didn't know that the reason that Marijuana is illegal is because of those dirty black folk, mexicans and chinamen?

If you do a little reading on early narcotics laws, many of them are there because of White Supremacist and Eugenics/Social Dawinistic beliefs about the people who used them.
2013-03-04 02:55:20 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Absolutely not.

After screaming about the 'tax benefits' of legal marijuana for years they had better not run around looking for a way out of paying taxes.


Then maybe they should tax otherwise legal medical marijuana sellers in the same way they tax other legitimate businesses?
2013-03-04 02:55:10 PM
1 votes:
Seems to me that if you are a distributor of medical aid who recoups only the cost of the materials and nothing for your time, that is philanthropy, which should be elgible for a deduction from taxable income. If you include the cost of your time in the price, that is business. Oh sorry, I mean The Enterprise.
2013-03-04 02:52:41 PM
1 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: How about this.

Everyone gets a few seeds. They can plant it somewhere in their house or on their property. They can consume it as they wish. If they go out into the public and incapable of functioning at a safe level, they can be arrested.
Nobody has to sell anything to anyone.

Nah. That's crazy talk.


Nation needs a Johnny Potseed. Travelling from field to field, planting potseeds.
Letting them grow free from GMO.
From sea to shining sea.
2013-03-04 02:45:30 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: hasty ambush: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7624877/82848582#c82848582" target="_blank">FloydA</a>:</b> <i>Taxes are the entry fee that you pay in order to be allowed to participate in civilization. Pay up or get out.</i>

And of course that "fee" is never excessive or used as means to control behavior or destroy and activity.

More power to anybody who can legally lower his tax burden.


Get out of my country then.

Seriously, if paying for the privilege of living in a civilized society is too much of a "burden" for you, then get the hell out.  Go Galt, live in a Randian tax-free paradise, and more power to you.  I wish you the best of luck.  But stop using all of the benefits of civilization if you aren't willing to pay the costs.  You can't have your ice cream unless you finish your veggies.


I have to ask: do you take marital, mortgage interest, child or any other legal deductions when you file? Or do you just say, "F*ck that. Deductions are for whusses" and pay the straight up percentage for your tax bracket?

Because if its the former, you may be a hypocrite.
2013-03-04 02:36:18 PM
1 votes:

TreehouseEngineer: Holy crap, did nobody RTFA? It's not about paying taxes, it's about controlled substance federal tax laws not allowing operating expenses to be deducted from gross income. The rest of the country pays taxes on net profit, but the MMJ industry is required to pay taxes on GROSS profits. This could result in the tax bill being higher than your net profit. Simply outrageous.

Additionally, to address other comments: Yes, it's a weed. And yes, getting it to grow and flower to produce  personal quantity of decent product is easy. But getting efficiently growing commercial quantities of GREAT product is NOT easy, or more correctly, is not cheap. If you can't subtract your costs for space, power, and labor from your gross profits due to some heavy-handed, and out-dated federal tax code, it will not be a for-profit business.

This is not about paying taxes, it is about being able to operate a profitable business.

/Farking, fark..


All I can hear is "WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH".  You don't want to get into an unprofitable business, don't start a weed business.  FFS, in California, the SELLERS (even the ass bags who pay no taxes) are now complaining that there is a glut of high quality weed available which has driven the cost of 1lb of good outdoor grown pot to $1200 or lower.  They're complaining because in this economy, too many people realized they can move to North Cali, rent some land (to hell with power, etc) and grow plenty of plants to sell (again, paying NO taxes, income or sales).

Seriously. NEVER HAPPY!!!

Sellers: WAAAAAAAAAH!!! We can't deduct some things like every other business even though we're selling an illicit (at federal level) drug!
Sellers: WAAAAAAAAAH!!! We're not making as much money because there's too many other dealers now!  There's too much pot out there!
Buyers: WAAAAAAAAAH!!! I never had to pay taxes when I bought it from Jethro, 50 miles away in the country! This is BS!!!
2013-03-04 02:31:51 PM
1 votes:
This thread is one big game of "Spot Who Posted Without First Reading TFA".
2013-03-04 02:17:12 PM
1 votes:
If I can grow farking Asprin in my own back yard, they government should STFU and let me enjoy life with out any headaches.
2013-03-04 02:14:13 PM
1 votes:

SnakeLee: so all of a sudden all of their transactions went cash only.


So it's a cash only business but their taxes are higher than their profits?  Someone doesn't understand the basics of "cash only business".
2013-03-04 02:12:45 PM
1 votes:

SnakeLee: GAT_00: FFS, pay your farking taxes you sniveling little farks.

There is an anti-drug runner law called 280E that basically makes it so that they can't deduct anything as a business expense, including salaries.  Their tax bills are often higher than their total profits because of it.  Not only that, but the credit card companies and banks said they couldn't keep their money with them or have credit card transactions, so all of a sudden all of their transactions went cash only.  It's basically the perfect storm of cutting off the tax spigot that they were paying. In any case, the Californian ones are all supposed to be non-profits but they all got shut down by Federal DAs anyway.


He doesn't care.

GAT is an authoritarian when it comes to drug laws. He doesn't think any anti-drug policy is too irrational or unfair to punish drug users for their victimless behavior.
2013-03-04 02:11:06 PM
1 votes:
I guess no one read TFA, where it talks about a 75% federal tax being at issue.

/tax any business at 75% and it literally becomes a non-profit operation.
2013-03-04 02:10:23 PM
1 votes:
If the NFL can operate as a 501(c)4, I see no problem with this.
2013-03-04 02:07:12 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Considering the "legal" prices are the same as the street prices, I'd say someone is making a profit whether they're reporting it or not

/someone needs to investigate price fixing in the market


Here in Northern California the "legal" prices are like double the price as the street prices for the same quality.
2013-03-04 02:06:28 PM
1 votes:
To avoid taxes? How about to avoid being charged as the kingpin of a profitable grow/distribute operation?
2013-03-04 02:04:09 PM
1 votes:
You're going to need a really good tax attorney to argue this with the IRS because they're going to laugh their asses off when they receive your application for 501c3 status.
2013-03-04 02:04:01 PM
1 votes:

modesto: Anything medical should be non profit.


Ideally, yes. I'd WELCOME a single payer, Government run system like the UK has, mainly for professionally selfish reasons, but otherwise because it would be better for patients as a whole.

That said, I don't think Non-profits work like this person thinks they work. You cannot claim to be a non-profit and make gangbusters without giving Uncle Sam his cut. You have to track and justify where those funds go, and they are public knowledge.
2013-03-04 02:02:27 PM
1 votes:
The FDA and USA should STFU and just let the medical MJ shops do what they want.
The sooner every one lights up and mellows out, they better it will be for everyone.

And yes, it makes me a bad person, but an painful ass cancer on anyone who would deny medical MJ to one suffering from cancer.
2013-03-04 02:02:03 PM
1 votes:
NFL and NCAA are non-profits so why not weed sellers.
2013-03-04 02:00:57 PM
1 votes:

modesto: Anything medical should be non profit.


"Medical" marijuana is a different category.
2013-03-04 01:59:14 PM
1 votes:
Are florists non-profit? No. They are glorified botanists. Pay taxes like everyone else.
2013-03-04 01:57:59 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: FFS, pay your farking taxes you sniveling little farks.


If you don't owe taxes they're not your taxes, are they?
2013-03-04 01:57:34 PM
1 votes:
First, the feds need to legalize MJ and then fix the farking tax codes.
Keeping street prices around the same as they are now isn't a problem since the vast majority of smokers (er... patients) are used to paying that, but if you make it too expensive, you won't kill the black market. OTOH, anti-MJ folks are probably OK with that since they can point to it and claim "ZOMG -Legalization doesn't work"
2013-03-04 01:50:09 PM
1 votes:
Considering the "legal" prices are the same as the street prices, I'd say someone is making a profit whether they're reporting it or not

/someone needs to investigate price fixing in the market
2013-03-04 01:48:02 PM
1 votes:
they *are* doing god's work.
2013-03-04 01:41:59 PM
1 votes:
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