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(NBC New York)   James Franco being sued by one of his NYU film professors for calling him not so good   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line 24
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2013-03-04 12:02:41 PM
Professor Santana is being so un-pillow.
 
2013-03-04 12:14:37 PM
news from Sept 2012 subby

try to keep up with the rest of us
 
2013-03-04 12:29:41 PM
I've got 284 credit hours under my belt, I do agree that most professors are bad at their jobs.  And tenured professors are the absolute worst.  It is always nice to find a good one, only because they are so rare.  Out of all my degrees, I think law professors were the worst.  At least in undergrad you could understand why some overworked grad student was a not very good.  It's inexcusable for a tenured law professor.

That said, James Franco's claim seems like a little bit of a copout.
 
2013-03-04 12:33:01 PM
I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy
 
2013-03-04 12:34:21 PM

Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy


Do people actually like Franco?
 
2013-03-04 12:40:11 PM
Having not read the article, the professor may have a legitimate beef with Franco. Sometimes non-tenured faculty are able to hold onto their contracts only if they can fill the classes they've been given. If they can't it may be cancelled and drop their status down to non-insurance adjunct. If Franco denigrates the class he has an enormous soapbox on which to spread this message and students are sometimes like lemmings in following a popular student's opinion (look at Rate Your Professors, google). One bad word from a celebrity student can potentially hamper the professor's semester and possibly review and tenure.
 
2013-03-04 12:40:48 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy

Do people actually like Franco?


Apparently enough to click on a link to a discussion thread about him and leave a comment about how much they don't care about him.
 
2013-03-04 12:41:49 PM

FLMountainMan: I've got 284 credit hours under my belt, I do agree that most professors are bad at their jobs.  And tenured professors are the absolute worst.  It is always nice to find a good one, only because they are so rare.  Out of all my degrees, I think law professors were the worst.  At least in undergrad you could understand why some overworked grad student was a not very good.  It's inexcusable for a tenured law professor.

That said, James Franco's claim seems like a little bit of a copout.


I would guess that the reason law professors are teaching are because they a) couldn't get a job to be a lawyer, b) couldn't last in the profession, or c) switched to get an "easy" job and treat it as such.  It's not that way with most disciplines, but I do see the same thing in education.  I had one education professor proudly tell me that she only taught for two years and got fired before becoming a tenured professor.  She viewed her firing from the public school system as a mark she had been doing something right.  Pretty much everyone in the class felt that it was a mark that she was so, so wrong.
 
2013-03-04 12:43:35 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy

Do people actually like Franco?


I have since his Freaks and Geeks days.  I think he's dreamy.
 
2013-03-04 12:49:14 PM

Sybarite: Professor Santana is being so un-pillow.


Right out of the gate. Well done, sir.
 
2013-03-04 12:56:59 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy

Do people actually like Franco?


There were several interesting articles about the marketing of the Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Initially it was marketed as a Franco movie, but the test audiences had very little interest in seeing it. Only when they focused the marketing on  Caesar did it really start to take off and people wanted to give it a chance. I believe they went as far as removing Franco from some press junkets.
 
2013-03-04 01:00:12 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy

Do people actually like Franco?


I don't think he's a very good actor. However, I appreciate the fact that he really wants to be and is not afraid to take on challenging material and push the limits of his ability and every once in a while he's able to do something unexpected and interesting.
 
2013-03-04 01:12:33 PM
Mawson of the Antarctic: If Franco denigrates the class he has an enormous soapbox on which to spread this message and students are sometimes like lemmings in following a popular student's opinion (look at Rate Your Professors, google). One bad word from a celebrity student can potentially hamper the professor's semester and possibly review and tenure.

True, a professors existing reputation will also be a factor and probably a bigger one. If the professor has a decent reputation amoung the departments students a celebrity and is not teaching an intro course a celebritt on a soapbox will not effect him that much, as the department will know what is wrong. A proff with no or an already bad reputation could be severly effected though.

Though it probably depends on how serious the school/department is.
 
2013-03-04 01:33:33 PM

Snapper Carr: Malcolm_Sex: Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy

Do people actually like Franco?

I don't think he's a very good actor. However, I appreciate the fact that he really wants to be and is not afraid to take on challenging material and push the limits of his ability and every once in a while he's able to do something unexpected and interesting.


I was meh on him until I saw his stuff on Funny Or Die, especially the series where he's teaching his younger brother how to be an actor. Awesome stuff.

That and his 30 Rock appearance won me over.
 
2013-03-04 01:46:03 PM
I can't hate on Franco. He gets a lifetime pass for me and he'll always be Daniel Desario.
 
2013-03-04 01:56:55 PM
Isn't it a FERPA violation to discuss a student's absences, etc.?
 
2013-03-04 02:01:31 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Crewmannumber6: I seriously don't get what people think is so great about that guy

Do people actually like Franco?


I thought he was good in the first Spider-Man movie, and I liked him in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although I was more interested in the monkeys.

I do like that he was willing to portray an absolutely ridiculous version of himself on 30 Rock, as a closeted pervert with a fetish for those Japanese sex pillows with anime girls on them.

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2013-03-04 02:02:34 PM
"In court documents filed in Manhattan Supreme Court and obtained by the, the 34-year-old Franco says the legal action brought by José Angel Santana should be dismissed because a process server never actually served the suit on him."


Wow.  Like a servant?  Like a butler?  Like a chauffeur?  Shine shoes?
 
2013-03-04 02:58:58 PM

Alphakronik: "In court documents filed in Manhattan Supreme Court and obtained by the, the 34-year-old Franco says the legal action brought by José Angel Santana should be dismissed because a process server never actually served the suit on him."


Wow.  Like a servant?  Like a butler?  Like a chauffeur?  Shine shoes?


It's actually a very important part of the legal process.  Guaranteed by the Constitution.  Otherwise, you could get sued, never know, and not be able to face your accuser.
 
2013-03-04 04:13:28 PM

FLMountainMan: Alphakronik: "In court documents filed in Manhattan Supreme Court and obtained by the, the 34-year-old Franco says the legal action brought by José Angel Santana should be dismissed because a process server never actually served the suit on him."


Wow.  Like a servant?  Like a butler?  Like a chauffeur?  Shine shoes?

It's actually a very important part of the legal process.  Guaranteed by the Constitution.  Otherwise, you could get sued, never know, and not be able to face your accuser.


Don't you bring your filthy facts into this discussion.

I'll point out that your mileage may vary with professors. I've had professors who were incompetent, like fired for their incompetence, and read glowing reviews of them on RateMyProfessor.com. I've had professors give my straight A+s who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

Part of the problem of student reviews is that students are morons, have no concept of the professiona standard to which they should hold professors, have no way of checking the professor's knowledge of their subject, and generally shouldn't be there in the first place.
 
2013-03-04 08:40:38 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: FLMountainMan: I've got 284 credit hours under my belt, I do agree that most professors are bad at their jobs.  And tenured professors are the absolute worst.  It is always nice to find a good one, only because they are so rare.  Out of all my degrees, I think law professors were the worst.  At least in undergrad you could understand why some overworked grad student was a not very good.  It's inexcusable for a tenured law professor.

That said, James Franco's claim seems like a little bit of a copout.

I would guess that the reason law professors are teaching are because they a) couldn't get a job to be a lawyer, b) couldn't last in the profession, or c) switched to get an "easy" job and treat it as such.  It's not that way with most disciplines, but I do see the same thing in education.  I had one education professor proudly tell me that she only taught for two years and got fired before becoming a tenured professor.  She viewed her firing from the public school system as a mark she had been doing something right.  Pretty much everyone in the class felt that it was a mark that she was so, so wrong.


I come from an engineering background. Engineering professors are professors because they really really like research and the field they are in. Some are bad teachers, but in general whether I do well and learn something in a class is not due to the professor's competence, but my own. Most students are whiny biatches that want everything handled to them, but that's more indicative of a country of average students than anything.

It's a lot easier getting a good job as an engineer than surviving the tenure track process in all good universities.

Maybe liberal arts professors are different. I wouldn't know.

/not a professor
//just someone that isn't retarded
 
2013-03-04 09:18:31 PM
I had a lit prof give me a 2.0 one semester because he said "although you are the best writer in the class, you can do so much better, so my giving you a low grade will teach you a life lesson to strive for the higher ground, and you writing is much better when you are drinking."

So, I got a farking bad grade because I did not want to become a Bukowski.
 
2013-03-04 11:11:56 PM
James how's your professor?
Soooo not good
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2013-03-05 12:09:19 AM
hollywooddame.com

Looks like a diligent student to me.

And after seeing the seriousness with which he took his position hosting the Academy Awards and clearly not smoking any weed I think it's safe to say he can take everything he says as rock solid fact.

And he's a liar and a fraud...

http://jezebel.com/5780606/dear-james-franco-you-were-a-jerk-to-me

I can't wait for the inevitable lack of interest in him as an actor and him in is mid-40's, getting pudgy and having to remember all the people he was a dildo to through the years and wonder how many of them are now block his roles.

/If you couldn't tell I think his nothing but a bag of smashed assholes
 
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