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(Talking Points Memo)   Politician claims that pregnancy rarely results from rape because the body is too "traumatized" to conceive. Guess which party. Go on, guess   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 164
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2013-03-04 10:04:17 AM  
keep it up, assholes.
 
2013-03-04 10:08:28 AM  
I want the full situational context of that comment.  Not that I'm forgiving her - not one bit.  But I really want to know why she said it in the first place.

Let's pretend it's true.  What's her point?  We can't answer that with that context.

Is she saying, "It's rare, so no need for abortions?"  That's probably the case, but we can't tell from this piece.
 
2013-03-04 10:13:42 AM  
It takes quite some doing to be stupider than a California Democrat - but sure enough there's a California Republican to pull it off.

Diogenes: Let's pretend it's true. What's her point? We can't answer that with that context.


She's still stupid in the quote from the original article.

California is farked.
 
2013-03-04 10:32:30 AM  
Forced anal won't get a chick pregnant?
 
2013-03-04 10:35:05 AM  
Step 1: open mouth.
Step 2: insert foot.

Who will finally dam the river of derp coming from these jokers?  If the GOP ever wants to be relevant again, they need to ditch these idiots (and the Teabaggers) and try to court some independents.  Here in AZ (a died-in-the-woods red state), independents now represent 33% of the voters (Dem 30%, Rep 36%).
 
2013-03-04 10:36:33 AM  

Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Let's pretend it's true. What's her point? We can't answer that with that context.

She's still stupid in the quote from the original article.


Oh, no question.  Just trying to calibrate my disgust valve.
 
2013-03-04 10:50:29 AM  
Spoken by someone who would never stand any chance being raped

/damn, that's a rough old broad
 
2013-03-04 11:28:14 AM  
Hotlinked for your pleasure....

media1.policymic.com
 
2013-03-04 11:35:10 AM  
I predict the response will be: "By accurately quoting this strong, conservative woman the libtards are proving *THEY* are the party waging a war on women!"
 
2013-03-04 11:37:34 AM  

Fark In The Duck: (a died-in-the-woods red state)


Is that wonderful turn of phrase a product of the educational system of the State of Arizona?

/BTW, what you're looking for is "dyed-in-the-wool"
 
2013-03-04 11:44:36 AM  

Diogenes: Is she saying, "It's rare, so no need for abortions?" That's probably the case, but we can't tell from this piece.


I fail to see how just because something is rare means there should be no legal and safe remedy if it should happen. Even if her argument is based on it being rare, she's still an idiot.
 
2013-03-04 11:48:41 AM  

serpent_sky: Diogenes: Is she saying, "It's rare, so no need for abortions?" That's probably the case, but we can't tell from this piece.

I fail to see how just because something is rare means there should be no legal and safe remedy if it should happen. Even if her argument is based on it being rare, she's still an idiot.


Like I said, I'm just curious to see how deep the derp runs.  The fuller context won't help her comment.  But it will help us understand it fully, in all its derpy splendor.
 
2013-03-04 11:52:27 AM  

show me: Fark In The Duck: (a died-in-the-woods red state)

Is that wonderful turn of phrase a product of the educational system of the State of Arizona?

/BTW, what you're looking for is "dyed-in-the-wool"


Actually, it's a product of not enough coffee this morning.  Educated in Ohio, so your theory is moot.
 
2013-03-04 11:58:25 AM  
Did folks forget what happened the last time they tried this line? Seriously?
 
2013-03-04 12:02:13 PM  

hubiestubert: Did folks forget what happened the last time they tried this line? Seriously?


Akin hasn't been heard from in a long time, he just disappeared, even here in his home state.
 
2013-03-04 12:05:35 PM  

hubiestubert: Did folks forget what happened the last time they tried this line? Seriously?


If I were a GOP strategist, I would go around and pay every single governing member of the Republican party $5 a day to never discuss rape. I would just advise them to change the topic or leave the room if it ever came up.
 
2013-03-04 12:05:40 PM  
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2013-03-04 12:07:41 PM  

mahuika: If I were a GOP strategist, I would go around and pay every single governing member of the Republican party $5 a day to never discuss rape. I would just advise them to change the topic or leave the room if it ever came up.


They can't help themselves.  It's This Little Light of Mine Syndrome.  They know they're right and they aren't going to be shut down (hur hur) for very long.
 
2013-03-04 12:08:56 PM  

Diogenes: serpent_sky: Diogenes: Is she saying, "It's rare, so no need for abortions?" That's probably the case, but we can't tell from this piece.

I fail to see how just because something is rare means there should be no legal and safe remedy if it should happen. Even if her argument is based on it being rare, she's still an idiot.

Like I said, I'm just curious to see how deep the derp runs.  The fuller context won't help her comment.  But it will help us understand it fully, in all its derpy splendor.


From the linked article in TFA, it sounds like she was criticizing Akin's comments on rape, saying he should have apologized... then immediately followed that by agreeing with what Akin had said.

I also love how she claims that the "percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small", and then in the very next sentence admits that she doesn't know how many pregnancies happen because of rape.
 
2013-03-04 12:12:16 PM  
so the key to getting a green light is to keep submitting links until someone accepts it
funny headline is optional
 
2013-03-04 12:40:31 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-03-04 12:50:11 PM  
Her quote: "Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it's an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don't know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape."

Good Christ, why wouldn't you look something like that up if you were going to make the first statement?  It's like "[citation needed]"-ing yourself.

Think, key, speak.
 
2013-03-04 12:54:59 PM  
It also does not count as rape if she orgasms
 
2013-03-04 01:01:43 PM  
niftycraft.com
 
2013-03-04 01:02:10 PM  
It's highly likely that for most of human history, sex amounted to little more than brutal, misogynistic rape. Women were property of their husbands or their fathers (with marriage being a title deed exchanging her rights from one to the other) and had very little rights, privileges or sexual freedoms. In fact, in some cultures it wasn't certain if women even liked sex (and some societies had laws prohibiting women from enjoying it). Hell, female sexuality wasn't even studied in a clinical capacity until the 1950s.

Historically speaking, men have not been kind to women.

So it's safe to say that the sperm and egg don't care under what duress that they meet -- just that they do. It's arguable as to whether the human race could even survive if emotional or mental trauma had any impact on fertility.
 
2013-03-04 01:12:17 PM  
Someone is fishing for donations.
 
2013-03-04 01:14:47 PM  

Fark In The Duck: show me: Fark In The Duck: (a died-in-the-woods red state)

Is that wonderful turn of phrase a product of the educational system of the State of Arizona?

/BTW, what you're looking for is "dyed-in-the-wool"

Actually, it's a product of not enough coffee this morning.  Educated in Ohio, so your theory is moot mute.


My god, man. You'll never get another opportunity this good.
 
2013-03-04 01:15:35 PM  
"Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it's an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don't know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape. Because of the trauma the body goes through, I don't know what percentage of pregnancy results from the act."

Jesus Christ. Someone actually said this in earnest.

We really are getting dumber by the hour, aren't we?
 
2013-03-04 01:16:37 PM  

Ishkur: It's highly likely that for most of human history, sex amounted to little more than brutal, misogynistic rape. Women were property of their husbands or their fathers (with marriage being a title deed exchanging her rights from one to the other) and had very little rights, privileges or sexual freedoms. In fact, in some cultures it wasn't certain if women even liked sex (and some societies had laws prohibiting women from enjoying it). Hell, female sexuality wasn't even studied in a clinical capacity until the 1950s.

Historically speaking, men have not been kind to women.

So it's safe to say that the sperm and egg don't care under what duress that they meet -- just that they do. It's arguable as to whether the human race could even survive if emotional or mental trauma had any impact on fertility.


This is the most coherent response I have heard concerning this topic.  Bravo!
 
2013-03-04 01:16:55 PM  
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2013-03-04 01:18:30 PM  

gilgigamesh: "Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it's an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don't know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape. Because of the trauma the body goes through, I don't know what percentage of pregnancy results from the act."

Jesus Christ. Someone actually said this in earnest.

We really are getting dumber by the hour, aren't we?


WE are not. Dumb people just have a greater voice now than ever before in history.
 
2013-03-04 01:18:57 PM  
At this point I cannot believe the first rule of being a Republican is DO NOT TALK ABOUT RAPE!  In fact it should be rule 1-10 at this point.
 
2013-03-04 01:19:49 PM  
Crap...didn't read it before I postedAt this point I cannot believe the first rule of being a Republican is  not DO NOT TALK ABOUT RAPE!  In fact it should be rule 1-10 at this point.
 
2013-03-04 01:20:20 PM  
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2013-03-04 01:20:33 PM  
Just out of curiosity, where do Republicans get this idea from anyway?  Was there like a memo passed around saying something like "only 1 in 5 rape victims get pregnant so keep that in mind if it ever comes up in a press conference."

/no idea what the actual likely hood of getting pregnant through rape is.
 
2013-03-04 01:20:49 PM  
So, she says that he was wrong and should have apologized..... and then goes on to basically spout the exact same thing he did, just differently....

Wha?
 
2013-03-04 01:21:43 PM  

Gergesa: Just out of curiosity, where do Republicans get this idea from anyway?  Was there like a memo passed around saying something like "only 1 in 5 rape victims get pregnant so keep that in mind if it ever comes up in a press conference."

/no idea what the actual likely hood of getting pregnant through rape is.


It's a desperate attempt to come up with a reason that victims of rape should be denied abortions.
 
2013-03-04 01:22:04 PM  

qorkfiend: Fark In The Duck: show me: Fark In The Duck: (a died-in-the-woods red state)

Is that wonderful turn of phrase a product of the educational system of the State of Arizona?

/BTW, what you're looking for is "dyed-in-the-wool"

Actually, it's a product of not enough coffee this morning.  Educated in Ohio, so your theory is moot mute.

My god, man. You'll never get another opportunity this good.


Dammit!

(glad I skimmed before re-posting that)
 
2013-03-04 01:22:10 PM  
Remember when the Republican party's biggest politicalembarrassment was a VP who couldn't spell "potato"? Bet the few moderates left are pining for those days.

Endive Wombat: Ishkur: It's highly likely that for most of human history, sex amounted to little more than brutal, misogynistic rape. Women were property of their husbands or their fathers (with marriage being a title deed exchanging her rights from one to the other) and had very little rights, privileges or sexual freedoms. In fact, in some cultures it wasn't certain if women even liked sex (and some societies had laws prohibiting women from enjoying it). Hell, female sexuality wasn't even studied in a clinical capacity until the 1950s.

Historically speaking, men have not been kind to women.

So it's safe to say that the sperm and egg don't care under what duress that they meet -- just that they do. It's arguable as to whether the human race could even survive if emotional or mental trauma had any impact on fertility.

This is the most coherent response I have heard concerning this topic.  Bravo!


And then you've got the Puritans, who believed that children conceived without female orgasms turned out sickly and weak. Yet they always get crap for being sexually regressive. Historically speaking, it's hard to tell this kind of thing since it wasn't generally well recorded.
 
2013-03-04 01:22:36 PM  
No one is this stupid. NO ONE. My only guess is that they are deliberately setting themselves up to be "victimized by the LIEBRUL LAMESTREAM Media congolomerate" and hope their base is too stupid to realize, which they have shown time and again to be so.

They aren't even trying anymore, which is a scary indication of how indoctrinated they believe their Derpstiuents to be.
 
2013-03-04 01:23:02 PM  
If this is true, then why is the "Morning After" pill given to women in hospitals as part of the physical exam for a rape?  I think that maybe these women are taking the "Morning After" pill and thus not many pregnancies are resulting from rape.
 
2013-03-04 01:24:16 PM  

Fark In The Duck: show me: Fark In The Duck: (a died-in-the-woods red state)

Is that wonderful turn of phrase a product of the educational system of the State of Arizona?

/BTW, what you're looking for is "dyed-in-the-wool"

Actually, it's a product of not enough coffee this morning.  Educated in Ohio, so your theory is moot.


Shame, I thought it was a pop culture reference to Deliverance or something like that.
 
2013-03-04 01:24:47 PM  

GalFriday: If this is true, then why is the "Morning After" pill given to women in hospitals as part of the physical exam for a rape?  I think that maybe these women are taking the "Morning After" pill and thus not many pregnancies are resulting from rape.


Hey, STFU man, stop introducing things like Science and reality into the discussion.
 
2013-03-04 01:24:55 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: I also love how she claims that the "percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small", and then in the very next sentence admits that she doesn't know how many pregnancies happen because of rape.


She knows it in her gut, she doesn't need the facts.
 
2013-03-04 01:25:23 PM  
When asked the question she should have run for a call box, blown her whistle and found her safe zone.
 
2013-03-04 01:26:02 PM  
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Don't mention rape! I mentioned rape once, but I think I got away with it.
 
2013-03-04 01:26:16 PM  
These proudly ignorant morons can't help themselves, can they?
 
2013-03-04 01:27:46 PM  

Gergesa: Just out of curiosity, where do Republicans get this idea from anyway?  Was there like a memo passed around saying something like "only 1 in 5 rape victims get pregnant so keep that in mind if it ever comes up in a press conference."

/no idea what the actual likely hood of getting pregnant through rape is.


Women may not ovulate during stressful times.  Rape is stressful therefore women do not ovulate and can not become pregnant.  Totally  missing the point that a woman may have ovulated before the rape.  This is also wishful thinking so they can remove the rape clause from abortion restrictions.  A woman might claim to have been raped when she wasn't to get an abortion hence the "legitimate rape" idea.
 
2013-03-04 01:27:59 PM  
How is that any different than the Akinian Theorem?
 
2013-03-04 01:28:23 PM  
It is starting to look more and more like Stockholm Syndrome.  The Rapeublicans got raped in the election so now they identify with rape.

/said rape twice
 
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